Open 350: C9++ (Town Win!)

[LanseVeritas]

V/LA until Wednesday the 9th October due to exams.

Post that, I'll be stepping up my activity significantly. Think factors of 10.

[LanseVeritas]

And I'm back from exams! From my perusals which have been few and far between I am generally not happy with how the game has developed into a what seems to be a modified version of Russian Roulette where one person knows where all the bullets are.

I'll go through and ISO everyone on my Day off tomorrow as I do I have to attend to some family matters today but rest assured I am here and well and truly going to focus on this game.

[LanseVeritas]

And I'm back from exams! From my perusals which have been few and far between I am generally not happy with how the game has developed into a what seems to be a modified version of Russian Roulette where one person knows where all the bullets are.

I'll go through and ISO everyone on my Day off tomorrow as I do I have to attend to some family matters today but rest assured I am here and well and truly going to focus on this game.

I swear to

God

Mod, Lanse, if you don't follow through with this I won't rest until you're replaced.

La, I will.
Looking back there's not much I would say about Hoppster, Viscera and red that hasn't already been said from both the for- and against- sides. Would you prefer to read what's been said already or shall I just skip to a few specific people of the town's choice?

[LanseVeritas]

Not gonna be able to write up my entire set reasons right now but:


Conman418 > VisceraEyes > kuribo - Leaning scum
Bluegingham > Hikari - Leaning Scum
Johhog - Obvtown Laaaaaaaaaaaa
Kad2361 > Fate - Null
Hoppster - Would like him to be scum. Somehow I don't think he is. Could be wrong, he's so darn spontaneous. I dislike the constant insults and spam though, even though I realise that's no grounds to decide on town/scum.
ZeekLTK > Xalxe> Skenvoy - Far leaning town.
Sky - Marginally Leaning Scum. Not too sure about this current case, though unless I've missed something.
redFF - Null
Twistedspoon > Eijolend - Leaning Town

[LanseVeritas]

if that wasn't the most shameless and ridiculous prod dodge i've ever fucking seen...
i mean holy shit

Is your intelligence entirely dictated by swearing or do you not have a shred of decency in you?

[LanseVeritas]

EBWOP: If I had given a full ISO it's clear your response would have been the same - many of you are already averse to me, which is understandable - so it's not like your post actually means anything of significance. I will be giving a full ISO when I get the time to actually process it and whatnot (I do have to sift through quite a bit of spam, swearing and sarcasm to find useful material) and timezones are going to make that even more tedious for the more impatient among us.

[LanseVeritas]

and also, "lolololol kuribo called me inactive but everyone knows this and also he cusses alot so we can just disregard that lolololol"
WRONG
LOOK HOW WRONG YOU ARE

Actually, it was more along the lines of "You're naturally biased against me so I'm not going to fight against that" and "Stop being so pointlessly inflammatory." Considering how you just responded it's more than glaringly obvious that I'm correct on both accounts.

So you think the Hoppster and kuribo argument could be town vs town? It's not easy for me to believe that, especially because kuribo seamlessly continued the quarrel VE had with Hoppster.

It's entirely possible that that's the case; I don't quite see what's so hard to believe about it. If kuribo has indeed ridden into the game on the back of a town role and he agrees with VE's reads in general it's not hard to see why he'd continue the case which was grounded for him.

[LanseVeritas]

Of course I'm biased against you, I hate when people sign up for a game and don't bother playing.
What makes you think my "inflammatory" language is pointless? Hell, what makes you think it's me trying to be inflammatory?

I would have not been V/LA if I had not had more important things to do and I've made that clear. It's rather meaningless to hold that sort of grudge.
Clearly swearing randomly at me is pointless. I'm fairly certain you're capable of getting your arguments across without swearing at all. It just seems over-the-top and generally desperate. Don't even see how your last statement makes any semblance of sense.

VE's reads in general

hold up man, let's not say things we can't take back

I said I agreed with him about Hoppster, not his reads in general. i don't acutally think Hiraki was "intentionally trolling" VE. I god damn well disagree with him that redFF is by any stretch a decent player. VE obviously thought Sky was scum, I thought Sky was mostly town until recently, as I pointed out in #381. And #402 really fucking sets my nerves on edge about Sky, doubly so with him defending Hoppster by speculating that Hopps may be new to the game when a simple fucking wiki check would show otherwise.

If Sky flips scum, I guarangoddamntee you that Hopps is scum, because of all this, and because of Hopp's vote on him. Look at this shit! He wants to be on Sky's wagon so fucking bad, even though he claims to think I'm scum. You know why? Because he feels like he needs the "towncred" that he thinks he'll get from bussing Sky, and he knows that he doesn't need to bother trying to get me lynched today because he'll just kill me tonight. And if some crazed fuckery happens that leaves me alive, he thinks he can parlay Sky's scumflip into some sweet town cred and get me lynched first in that 1v1 tomorrow.

Think about it. If Hoppster thinks I'm scum, there's NO fucking reason for him not to be voting me. NONE. He refuses to move his vote off Sky, onto me, because he says he thinks he's "caught scum." But... why not be voting me if he's so god damn sure he's "caught scum?" (Hint: He's bussing Sky, and it looks scummy as shit to vote for a claimed doc)

-shrug- Fine, I stand corrected, VEs reads on Hoppster. And Sky. Because now you think he's scum. no?

[LanseVeritas]

Prods:

LanseVeritas hasn't posted in 24 hours, but I'm sending him an unofficial prod due to his absence.

Really.

Really.

24 hours and I get a prod.

Righty oh then.

My bad. Copy/Paste fail. Fixed. ~DJ

[LanseVeritas]

BTW You didn't actually PM me, so la.

[LanseVeritas]

No, not at all. However, I don't think we're going to get a lot more out of him. The vig (assuming he's not lying) can shoot him or Fate tonight. Or Hiraki. Maybe.

Vig shot will be amusing on three levels.

[LanseVeritas]

OK, I really want LanseVeritas to start the claim. Objections?

Done.

I'm oneshot vig, I shot Hoppster.

[LanseVeritas]

Actually, now that I think about it, considering that I sent my shot in on the night/day border and timezones are screwy I'm not sure if I might have missed it and I still have my shot. Either way I sent Hoppster as a target.

[LanseVeritas]

Actually, looking at the randomization of the setup, we know this is what we have:

At least 1 Doc
1 1-shot Vig
1 Innocent Child
1 Serial Killer
1 Scum Roleblocker

The only setup that allows for a serial killer and a scum roleblocker is "TTT"

a 1-shot vig is a single V, giving us TTTV
A doc is a single D, giving us TTTVD, that's five rolls out of seven.
An innocent child is a single M, giving us TTTVDM. With the last roll unaccounted for.

Under this setup, there is no chance for a godfather. There is also no chance for a 1-shot vig and a regular vig (VVV)

It's definitely time for massclaim, because under the setup, we ABSOLUTELY HAVE a 1-shot power role left unclaimed.

Can't see anything wrong with this.

[LanseVeritas]

Trololol. This will be very funny.

So assuming I flip OneShot Vig then what happens?

[LanseVeritas]

nope, they're cant be, just checked the wiki

VOTE: lanceveritas
gg scum, really fucking weird fakeclaim though.
LV why didn't you counterclaim me yesterday?
LV why didn't you shoot me last night as i should be confirmed scum from your perspective?

Because I shot Hoppster and took out the Roleblocker...?

DERP DERP.

[LanseVeritas]

Either I forgot or it slipped my mind. Either way it makes no difference; if I die today you'll see my flip.

[LanseVeritas]

And as soon as I finished typing I remember. I'm smart.

Basically if I claimed there could have been mixed reactions by the town; quite possibly I would have been Mafia roleblocked and that would have thrown this whole small play out the window. On the other hand, as there are only 3 scum and I was sure of my shot, I knew that my flip the next day would secure our win.

[LanseVeritas]

You're right, since there can't possibly be a second Vig my shot obviously hit Hoppster.
Autowin laaaaaaa. Play this out for me, folks.

Looks like being an under-the-radar vig works on this forum.

[LanseVeritas]

Bah post time.

GO SCUM XD

[LanseVeritas]

He's like a flaky fucking hero.

Looks like I contributed two-thirds of the scum kills in this game almost single-handedly.

You, on the other hand, did not.

[LanseVeritas]

btw, Lanse deserves alot of credit for basically doing fuck-all the entire game, being VLA the whole time, and then coming out of fucking nowhere to kill Hoppster and counter-claim redFF

As I said in the Dead Thread, BATMAN!