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Post Post #607 (isolation #0) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:13 am

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Pidgey here ready to fuck up the scum

Been fast reading the thread for the past hour, first thing I noticed is that wow this is very different from the kind of mafia im used to. A lot more walls of texts and shit, also much more joking/joke phase from where i come from. People are being (semi?) seriousnsince page 1. Hopefully i will adapt well.

I chose to replace kondi because trekker does loos scummy from what i read. He was posting lots of unfounded suspicions and was generally being a little awkward. He is being replaced now though.

I will reread the thread and finish the parts i havent read, then i guess i can do a semi big post of what i feel about each player. This will have to wait a bit since i have a class in 15 mins though.

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Post Post #625 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:59 am

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WALL OF TEXT INCOMMING, SORRY BUT IT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO PROVIDE SOMETHING.

Hi, so one thing you should know about me is that im ESL (English second language). Still, I think I can manage pretty well. Just expect a couple of grammar mistakes and what not.
Also people at the forums I play are way much more reserved with their votes (I always leave my vote for like the last 20% of the day in those forums), even if the days are shorter (like 6 real life days). So that’s gonna be a little hard to get used to, but here we go!
Unlike some people, I really can’t use meta at all since I know none of you. So bleh. The style around this board is overall waaay different from other stuff I’ve played in. Anyway, I want to point out that I started writing this at about page 10 and kept adding lines. So I might go from “Guy looks scummy” at the beginning of paragraph to “Ok, he did this which does look town.” which I maybe read on page 20 at the end of paragraph

Equinox

Guy looks pretty townie to me right now. Good reasoning sometimes, brings fresh content into the table. There’s not really much here I can point out. Solid reasoning mostly. I agree with most of his content about Screaming Hawk, for example…. Except for the part when he suddenly believe he is town when SH explained about his vote thing early in the day.

Amrun

Im actually leaning a little bit into scummy here. IMO he tries to look helpful, but then he’s also asking a lot about previous experience. I’m not a fan of this. It feels to me like if he sometimes tries to poke for information and content, trying to make someone look bad a little bit each time.

Quilford

Gotta be honest, I have a lot of doubts here at the moment. But the fact that not many people have gone against Quil and the fact that he has played the game safely, mostly echoing other players, makes me feel unsafe. Wouldn’t be surprised if he was scum. When town players play it safe, they get called out a lot. When the scum does it, its hard for the town to point this out. They just look like active, not very aggressive town. Was also metaing me (Kondi) a lot. But so were other people… I still find quil scummy.

SleepyKrew

Throwing out a lot of questions at almost every move done in the game. Not really controlling the game or anything. Seems to be quite helpful, but then again scum would like to look exactly like he does. Asking a lot of questions and following them through. Dunno, kinda 50/50 here.

Nobody Special

Super bad logic. A lot of his posts are slightly scummy. But then again, he’s been put under pressure for a long time. Not sure about this, but I can see the case against him. The way he bandwaggoned hawk on page 13 is just so bad. But is all this just bad town or scum? Would probably vote for him but im more comfortable about others. I can see both sides of the coin though; A bad townie player with a couple of votes from the scum in there already, or a bad scum player with just votes for being bad.

bvoigt

Not much of a read here, to be honest. Not a lot of content, looks kind of townish since he hasn’t really gone to bandwagons and when he gives content its not as recycled as what others do.

DonJosh

Very puzzling behavior. Not sure what to think of here. He hasn’t been nowhere near as active as other members, but he hasn’t lached unto bandwagons and shit like that. Then again, he could just be playing dumb a bit.

Fruit Basket

Seems townish to me from what I read so far. Confronts stuff when it’s thrown at him. Nothing much stands out I dunno.

trekker

This guy looks as scum to me from what I read. However he’s getting replaced or something so not sure how to proceed here. His play has been really bad, his reasoning has been worse. Umm… Guy just comes in and says “These are the town… oh, and these are the scum!”. Cool buddy. Although I think that’s kind of a null tell. Gets into a lot of 1 on 1 conversation with people and just kind of ignores everything else until he comes back. Dunno, scummy. Would probably vote him if he wasn’t getting replaced. Might still vote him anyway!

fatlikepig

The guy gives me a town vibe so far. Although I don’t necessarily agree with some of the stuff that he’s been throwing around. He’s been helpful and pushing certain targets when he feels someone is scummy. I think he’s cool in my book for now.

ScreamingHawk

I think SH is I actually have no fkn clue. His first posts of the game are bothering, kinda. Like when he decides to go for a vote on Pig rather than Quil, that reasoning sucked. He also got a little offended when his name started appearing in votes at the beginning of the day, which I found suspicious. Still, when people began to question you about your unvote/vote thing early in the day, you kinda didn’t went into raging mode, you just went “haha yeah guys honest mistake” or something, which I find townish. Of course he had no big defense against this. It was a dumb honest mistake, town or scum, and people kinda latched into it. Seems to be you might be telling the truth at times, but why so scummy if you are town?

Cross_Pollination Twistedspoon

Cross pollination was playing a little bit too safe from what I could gather. Didn’t voiced many suspicions and threw out some votes here and there that were kind of safe. Not sure how I feel about this. A lot of people defended this guy, dunno why.
Now for twistedspoon he made a fkn big post which is gonna be hard to read… here we go… ok! That was a long read, gonna have to read more out of you to get any kind of idea though.

Ok im done and yeah I find a lot of people suspicious. Im just paranoid sometimes I guess.
Would not vote:
SleepyKrew
Fatlikepig
Bvoigt
Maybe Don Josh
Equinox

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Nobody Special
Amrun
Quilford
Treeker

For now im actually going to vote for Quilford. No one has called him out for some reason, yet his play is much weaker than a lot of other players. Not a lot of original content. Playing it safe. Etc.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:48 pm

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Thing is I'm actually not sure if its the best vote right now. I'm not sure if the guy is just being a little trollish as town. If you go through his post history, its mostly very bad play, very bad logic, some very bad votes (Hawk, Equinox) and stuff like that. But would scum really be this obviously bad? We shouldn't just forgive him because he could be bad town, either. Just gotta have to think who's the best option to lynch.

To be honest, even if I do have SN in my vote list, it kinda is the least sure I am off (right there with Amrun) compared to the other 2. I would vote for him if there's no opinions of the other players and we are near deadline, but we still have some days to go and a replacement to get. (I think we have some days to go lol)
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Post Post #637 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:54 pm

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In post 634, Quilford wrote:oh ho ho

Pidgey replaced kondi?

oh ho ho


??????????????

What does this even mean? You said kondi stopped being scummy a couple of posts ago due to SleepyKrew providing an example of his town play. You did that https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 8#p3551778 there.

In post 635, fatlikepig wrote:
TS wrote:

Dat WIFOM. To answer your question though, yes, usually obvious scum is obviously scum.

Ignoring the possible "NS is being trolltown" WIFOM crap, and taking his posts at face value, how scummy do you think he is? More or less than Quil?

Also, expand upon your case on Quil. Can you cite a few posts that you feel are him "playing it safe"?

Thanks to you and [J] for replacing!


I think that he is playing worse as a "Mafia gamer", but I think he is less scummy than quil, actually. I again want to say that NS is indeed scummy, he should probably defend himself or something because if he doesn't then he IS the correct lynch of the day. At worse we will be lynching unhelpful town. At best he is scum that has just given up a bit and doesn't want to out his buddies or something.

Some of his posts (quil) that i havent liked are here:
1.- The one I linked in this post with the one I quoted are kinda irking me, although I dont know what Quil meant with his "Oh ho ho".
2.- http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3526245 --- This looks to me as just trying to be helpful town. Doing a bunch of suspicions, but hasn't really backed them off in previous posts or in this one. (Iso post #14)
3.- http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3520404 ---- His number 3 post in the game and already wants to lynch kondi/me for some reason, which he didnt bother to check until SK kindly pointed it out at page 25.
4.- http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3535134 ---- A lot of fluff basically saying nothing about why he thinks those people he mention as town are town.
5.- Basically a bunch of little posts were every time he mentions SH, fatlikepig (he does give some little content with him), DonJosh he just does one liners that say "Scum". Why do you think they are scum?

So yeah, not liking Quil but will probably vote for NS if he continues with his evil ways of ignoring to post content. DOnt like treeker/J and a little less Amrun either.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:57 pm

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wow how did that quote ended up like that haha
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Post Post #639 (isolation #5) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:01 pm

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Oh, im rereading and i think I actually missunderstood this shit and rereading some posts kondi isn't playing to his town meta according to Quil and SK? well whatever im town and dont even know kondi so
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Post Post #640 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:21 pm

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Wait WTF no scratch the last post. It was actually like i first said. Sorry its 3:20 AM in teh morning studied for a test for like 5 hours.
Quil thought kondi was scummy due to meta he didn't even had correctly. SK said otherwise. Quil changed his mind.

Want to see what Kondi meant with his "Ho ho ho" post about me.

Quil seems a bit like SH actually except without all the pressure from other players. Just calling out people town/scum without much else, kinda skating the game.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:22 pm

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"Quil seems a bit like
NS
actually except without all the pressure from other players. Just calling out people town/scum without much else, kinda skating the game."

omg im going to sleep now bye i need some neuron recharging
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Post Post #685 (isolation #8) » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:23 pm

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There are actually plenty of people in this game who just call out on people without doing much of anything else. Dunno if quick, 1 or 2 sentences posts are actually normal in this site.

Been reading about J, and im starting to doubt that treeker/J are scum because some of his stuff has been townish in my perspective. Like his post number 678 is something I agree and actually think a little as him, although i do think NS is scummy and not null. Don't really agree much on his view of bvoigt, he hasn't done much and at times is a little wagony, but he has given fresh content. Anyway, not that suspicious of treeker/J anymore, but this could all just be because J is just more focused in the game unlike treeker. Null here for now.

Sorry but I still dont like Quil's new posts. And I generally do not like people that play so damn much on meta, it is one thing to use it as an argument, and another to use it as your sole argument. Quil is using meta to attack and to defend. I also gotta agree with Spoon, Quil hasnt done a lot of what is pro town (looking for scum, etc), just like NS. This is why I said the two are playing a lot like each other a few posts back and why they are the scummiest to me.

I do agree with J's post about Amrun, he is also scummy in my book, and he's in my *Watch out* list.

Not sure why basket thinks SH is sure town. Some of his posts have bothered me, though not as much as others.
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Post Post #738 (isolation #9) » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:22 am

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I gotta say i didnt loved the way J hammered. And I also think it wont really tell us much if he flips town? Like, i think everybody found him, at the very least, scummy. I was suspicious of trakker, so my suspicions of you have come back... a bit, because your explanation later is not that bad (although it would have been cool if you had provided that in the same post you hammered)

Still, there might be a chance he flips scum, but i doubt it because like i said earlier, it could just be the town and the scum latching at a bad player. Hopefully he will be scum though.

Quil still bothers me for same reasons, too much meta attack and defense. Why do people suspect NS so much and dont suspect quil? They both have so few content ans its pretty alike.

Amrun raging is null to me. The content of the post itself is kinda townish, so im a little less worried there.

SK getting angry because we hadnt hammer NS is not really good, but i cant tell if thats scummy or something. Also didnt liked TS making cases before theres even a flip.
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Post Post #781 (isolation #10) » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:20 pm

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I've said before that some of J's post rub me the wrong way. The new ones don't really make him better. You really dont have some scum reads? None at all? Some people have played scummy. Obviously the uber spontaneity of your hammer is the bad part, but its pretty bad. You hammered but you werent convinced, but you were looking for content, but whaaaat? Why are you going to read on FB if NS flips town?

Why do you dislike those posts Fatlikepig? You've been doing that a lot, just pointing stuff you don't like. Would be cool if you also provided some reasons now and then. Not a fan of that to be honest.

Fake Ninja edit: Dont really think that's a scumslip. But even if he's not scummy as of now, im much more cautious of fatlikepig.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #11) » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:16 am

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Im pretty certain about this
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Post Post #875 (isolation #12) » Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:53 am

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So i've been reading the thread a bit and I still think Quilford is the scummiest in my book. Reasons already provided in other posts. On the other hand, i did not liked the recent back and forth with jerobbo either, jerobbo ended up looking worse. I dunno, both are kinda scummy to me.

The fact that he has played rather safe, almost like NS, except that he has never been called out, is what bothers me the most.

Whoever thinks fat is town because he had a "slip" is dumb. He could be scum and could thought that. Or fake it. Or whatever. I myself thought we had to get all the scum since like 4 real life days ago, when I actually reread the opening post.

Might ISO fruitbasket later. Probably Equinox too i dunno.
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Post Post #897 (isolation #13) » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:28 pm

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In post 876, Twistedspoon wrote:
In post 875, pidgey wrote:
Whoever thinks fat is town because he had a "slip" is dumb. He could be scum and could thought that. Or fake it. Or whatever. I myself thought we had to get all the scum since like 4 real life days ago, when I actually reread the opening post.

you mean hawk? hawk 'slipped' not fat
incidentally what is your take on fat?


Well im not sure there. I honestly thought he was town for some of d1 but now im not sure. He's a little vote-unvote happy which is something i never tend to do as town or scum and kinda irks me. I also didn't like his most recent unvote either. I dunno, he points a lot of fingers, which is good, but i think he backs them up a little weakly. Im not too worried here for now, might be later in the game.

Kinda in exams, so haven't done the ISOs i said, but i will get to that.
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Post Post #899 (isolation #14) » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:32 pm

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ALSO YEAH, Fat did "sliped", but as I said, that means nothing. Would be stupid to give him a free townie pass (Same for Screaming Hawk).

Not really liking the back and forth of FB and Amrun (not saying the 2 are scum though, that's a longshot). However, why do you think they are both town bvoigt?
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Post Post #921 (isolation #15) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:41 am

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In post 915, Equinox wrote:
In post 875, pidgey wrote:Whoever thinks fat is town because he had a "slip" is dumb. He could be scum and could thought that. Or fake it. Or whatever. I myself thought we had to get all the scum since like 4 real life days ago, when I actually reread the opening post.

I have a question. You thought we had to get all the scum by the end of Day 1. Ergo, you misunderstood the setup. Why do you think it's unreasonable to attribute misunderstanding the setup as a town tell?


Because it can easily be faked (SH) or it can be an actual misunderstanding (fatpig). Im not saying this is the case here but no way am i giving anyone a free pass for something like that. Say, i also didnt knew if j was town or scum, i was gonna ask in the day if i wasnt nightkilled, but when J flipped i saw he was green and i said ok.

(also i thought that you had to get all the scum, period. Not all the scum before day 1 ended.)
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Post Post #922 (isolation #16) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:41 am

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In post 915, Equinox wrote:
In post 875, pidgey wrote:Whoever thinks fat is town because he had a "slip" is dumb. He could be scum and could thought that. Or fake it. Or whatever. I myself thought we had to get all the scum since like 4 real life days ago, when I actually reread the opening post.

I have a question. You thought we had to get all the scum by the end of Day 1. Ergo, you misunderstood the setup. Why do you think it's unreasonable to attribute misunderstanding the setup as a town tell?


Because it can easily be faked (SH) or it can be an actual misunderstanding (fatpig). Im not saying this is the case here but no way am i giving anyone a free pass for something like that. Say, i also didnt knew if j was town or scum, i was gonna ask in the day if i wasnt nightkilled, but when J flipped i saw he was green and i said ok.

(also i thought that you had to get all the scum, period. Not all the scum before day 1 ended.)
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Post Post #923 (isolation #17) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:41 am

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In post 915, Equinox wrote:
In post 875, pidgey wrote:Whoever thinks fat is town because he had a "slip" is dumb. He could be scum and could thought that. Or fake it. Or whatever. I myself thought we had to get all the scum since like 4 real life days ago, when I actually reread the opening post.

I have a question. You thought we had to get all the scum by the end of Day 1. Ergo, you misunderstood the setup. Why do you think it's unreasonable to attribute misunderstanding the setup as a town tell?


Because it can easily be faked (SH) or it can be an actual misunderstanding (fatpig). Im not saying this is the case here but no way am i giving anyone a free pass for something like that. Say, i also didnt knew if j was town or scum, i was gonna ask in the day if i wasnt nightkilled, but when J flipped i saw he was green and i said ok.

(also i thought that you had to get all the scum, period. Not all the scum before day 1 ended.)
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Post Post #924 (isolation #18) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:42 am

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Lol wtf!

Sorry about that
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Post Post #925 (isolation #19) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:50 am

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Anyway equi, why do you say quilford is probably town because he says his "confirmed town"? Why is that too bold for scum? Too bold for scum is directing the town, leading all the lynches, etc. Not seeing what you say here.
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Post Post #929 (isolation #20) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:58 am

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It can be used as a fake slip to look like town that didnt knew what happened. He could be scum and fake that he didnt knew what he fliped as to appear town. Or something.

(again this is all a scenario. Could be or couldnt be the case. Im just trying to say that people should not give a free pass for stuff like this)
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Post Post #942 (isolation #21) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:41 am

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Equi- don't understand your vote on me? Yeah I missunderstood the setup a bit, I say that and you vote me? Ok. Anyway, yes I think that no one should get a free pass because of a slip. I don't even think that SH and fat were scum (at least not yesterday). But if they start doing scummy stuff should I give them a free pass? Lol no. Anyway I'm town. Equi seems kinda in the middle to me to be honest.

Also meta as an offense is ok. Its ok when people think someone is playing differently as when they played as town or something. But self meta sucks. And I never use self meta, or even rarely use meta as an offense. People play differently and evolve. Or they play differenltly just because they want.My vote on quilford is because his play has sucked. Him saying "I'm town confirmed cause of self meta" does little to me.

On the other hand, fatlikepig jumping on an opinion when he had multiple chances to do so before is bad.

vote: fatlikepig
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Post Post #943 (isolation #22) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:48 am

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Equi. Do you think I'm claiming scum because I say scum can missunderstand the setup too and then I say I missunderstood it?

That does not compute to me.
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Post Post #954 (isolation #23) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:14 am

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Uhhhhhhh

I cant understand your bad logic but ok.
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Post Post #956 (isolation #24) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:22 am

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How exacty is that a scum tell again?
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Post Post #957 (isolation #25) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:29 am

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So you are basically saying that i went

"mmmm so i missunderstood the setup as scum, and these guys missunderstood it too and people say they are town, so i must say it is a null tell, because i, the scum, was confused too".

Missunderstanding something is a null tell. It can be faked. It can be a confusion as scum. It can be confusion as town. But whatever, we've been going 2 pages with this and i rather look for scum like fat.
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Post Post #1004 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:17 am

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Been fkn busy but i will post later this afternoon or when i get a chance today.
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #27) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:06 am

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This is gonna be a little derp but i will make a bigger post later.

Jerobbo is townish to me, dunno, his theory is kinda dumb though. I mean, sure they both can be scum but for other reasons, not for the ones he provided. Still, im pretty sure he is townish.

Bvoigt i feel bleh about. Like, im going through his posts and its just giving me a bit scum vibe. Post 718 is kinda scummy. But its against j and he ended up night killed... But it could be the wifom he needs... Buh, i dunno. Maybe town.

Amrun is scummy yeah, ive mentioned it in other posts and her last posts dont help much. I wouldnt be that opposed to a lynch but i prefer others right now.

Seems like theres been a lot of 1 on 1 arguments on day 2.

Quilford is probably not gonna be lynched but i would probably lynch him if it was my desicion.

TS...i should go through his iso later, he looks town to me but who knows. We will see when i go through that. Im worried if he's scum though..

Fruit basket. I keep fkn forgetting he is in the game. Thats very bad. When scum plays cautiously its exactly what they expect, so since this has happened to me i should probably iso him later, too. Will do that later too.

Fatlikepig, do not liked that he did have a lot of chances to form an opinion on my "tell stance". Then when equi says somwthing he goes yeah yeah this and that. Not liking the iso either, 782 strikes as scummy. 867 is just weird. Other posts here and there are not good....

Bleh, he is scummy. Id revote quilford but thats obv not gonna happen so im leaving my vote for now, might change after i go through amrun, fruit, and ts. Who knows.

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Post Post #1044 (isolation #28) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:08 am

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What's there to address about that?

You did had the chance to accuse me of whatever before equi made his vote. But you didn't. That didn't happen to me.

FB, I dunno why i keep forgetting you are playing. What im saying is that you are not in my radar at all so im gonna iso you later to get an opinion of you. Doesn't mean you are scummy or townie, just unnoticed to me... for some reason.
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:09 am

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Wow new posts.

Anyway amrun is not looking too good in my book since a while back, she, quil and fatlikepig are the scummiest players to me, followed by maybe bvoigt.

Wouldn't be opposed to an amrun lynch. Prefer fat or quil though.

Also I really dislike the way Equi behaved on the last page... so you are not gonna be playing today and are useless town, at best? Ugh. I dunno, that looks scummy to me.
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:37 am

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That reaction is pretty townie, to be honest.

Ugh
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #31) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:13 pm

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Gonna make a better post later, but im down for lynching, in order: quil, fat, vboigt

Will do some stuff later, been oh so fkn busy.
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Post Post #1163 (isolation #32) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:33 am

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Quil- So i gotta give you a free pass all game to be town?

You are probably scum so thats ok. And btw, my scumreads have changed quite a bit.

Still happy lynching you or fatlikepig.
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #33) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:20 am

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We have few real days to come up with a lynch..
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #34) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:57 am

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ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 1163, pidgey wrote:Quil- So i gotta give you a free pass all game to be town?

You are probably scum so thats ok.

And I'm assuming this is some kind of typo. Letting scum live is OK?


Meant it like "You are probably scum, so your analizis on me is bad and dumb, so that's ok"

Anyway, i find it interesting that quil had a "Town meta read" on kondi, and is now attacking me because i'm using "obvious scumtells against him". Perhaps you are that obviously scummy?
Also, on a side note, some of you guys say he is town because he is playing to his town meta... What's his town meta like? Not play the game at all? So if I join another game and quil joins too and he is semi active, that means he is scum?
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #35) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:26 pm

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Wow. Yeah I know you are at exams, so am I. I just hate it when people say "Hey this is my town meta! Dont lynch me!". That's crap to me and I never use meta as a defense, rarely as an attack. Is me being a derp playing the game? Maybe i should just vote/unvote and not post content or something.

Yeah you've played a scummy game. Not because you aren't that active. You are just scummy. I've already said it in other posts, when I have time i might go through it all again.

""When town players play it safe, they get called out a lot. When the scum does it, its hard for the town to point this out." Complete and utter bullshit. If I am scum I have two buddies. That's two less people who can call me out, and some of them might anyway, to bus me or whatever."
Not bullshit, i've seen it so many times happening.

And yeah NS was town, but he had a fkn bandwagon of 7 people. You've done the same as he did and no one called you out (Or had done, you are playing now, so thanks for that sincerely).

(Also, why are you gonna replace? That actually kinda dissapoints me wheter you are town or scum... Hope you can still play)
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Post Post #1288 (isolation #36) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:13 am

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Although i do think BV is scummy, i think we have a better chance to get scum with Quil and fatlikepig.

Amrun looked townish to me when he was heavily under attack at post numer 1104. Her new posts arent that townish though... To be honest, i keep going back and forth with her... I'm worried, but not TOO worried.

BV might be a good lynch but he is also an easy one, and really, easy lynches turn out to be scum few times unless said lynch really screws up badly so that's why im... hesitating. Im much more happy lynching fatlikepig or quil. I do find BV somewhat scummy but not that much. But would lynch to avoid no lynch. I dunno, there could be a scumbuddy busing him already if he's scum.

Not loving the latest SH posts... If SH turns out to be scum you guys will learn not to trust your towntells much. As of right now, to me he is just null.
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Post Post #1301 (isolation #37) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:15 am

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I think bv is scummy, but when the whole game finds someone scummy, its an easy lynch.

If you guys think its worth it to take a look at me, it is ok! Im town though. I just think theres a higher chance we will find scum with fat and quil.

Just want to say this though, if vb flips scum, you guys think i am right now really defending him as his scum buddy? Why would i be trying to defend a scum if i, as scum, knew he was scum and i see that all 8 players are already suspicious of him, making me look really bad in the process? Wifom, but really, no one in their right mind would do that.
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Post Post #1302 (isolation #38) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:16 am

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If anything id be voting the shit out of him. Just saying.

But since im town i dont really know if he's scum or not.
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #39) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:21 am

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Cool SK.

Also TS why am i confirmed town if bv flips town??
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #40) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:39 pm

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Im tempted to hammer but i dunno. I want to learn bv last comments at least or something.
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #41) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:07 pm

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vote Fatlikepig for a better future
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #42) » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:23 pm

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Nice analizis
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Post Post #1344 (isolation #43) » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:01 am

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You know what? Id happily lynch SK too for his horrible reasoning and flipfloping scum reads.

Fat, SK, and Quil are probably my picks right now.
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Post Post #1354 (isolation #44) » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:03 pm

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Quilford why are you voting bv if in your list like 2 pages ago (not too long ago) he was the most town guy, or so you said. http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3591163

bvoigt (initially had a kind of inexplicable scumread on him but I've found myself sharing his reactions and thoughts, especially around the NS lynch and [J] hammer... moreover, I don't think a [J] kill makes sense coming from him)


I mean, not that much really happened with vb and his content between that post and your vote, and you suddenly came up with:

VOTE: bvoigt

recent posts are opportunistic, i want a death at deadline, his reads are terrible and supported by flimsy reasoning, his defence to the points against him is also flimsy...

i love being the hammer vote, it ensures that no matter what the lynchee flips i will be under heavy scrutiny tomorrow


Makes no sense to me.
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #45) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:21 am

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Well, now with all the votes on SK im not sure what to think... So

Im gonna have to think about it and reread some stuff :/
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #46) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:42 pm

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Yeah i feel comfortable after rereading some of D2 to vote for SK or maybe Quil.

Dunno if i should or wait to get more content for D2 though since that would put him in -1. What you guys think?
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #47) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:37 pm

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You because you said i was scum if bv fliped town, which makes no sense at all. I havent been in any of the 2 wagons btw. Also what i said before, horrible reasoning and flipfloping scum reads all the time. TS also had a big case on you.

Quilford is also a good vote because the way he suddenly changed his opinion on vg for no good reason at all, as i explained in 1354. Also for me his game has been scummy overall, but some say he's town dunno why.

Id still lynch fatlikepig.

Honestly i think our lynch should be someone who was on both of the bandwagons because that would give us the best chance to get scum... I think.

The people are:
SH
SK
Equinox
Fatlikepig
Quilford

And i think thats it.
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #48) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:09 pm

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1. Not scum. Sorry.
2. Nope. Just had better, more scummy candidates both days.
3. 1344.
4. Look at your iso. You are flipfloppy. One post you have a scum team, the next someone else is scum. (like my case).
5. 1343, 1347, 1358

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Post Post #1386 (isolation #49) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:05 pm

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Where did everyone go? :O

Yeah i'd actually like to know why Quilford is voting equi. I dunno, equi seemed town to me when he tried to point me as scum because he thought i sliped, seemed like a genuine townie play. But who knows? Would like to see his reasons.

And why are the 3 people voting for SK... well, voting for SK?
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #50) » Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:16 pm

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Ugh, well if he flips town we are basically almost fucked but....

Ok if he slips scum then what are we learning?
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Post Post #1405 (isolation #51) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:56 pm

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I honestly would prefer to lynch fat. Thats why im not voting yet.

I think fat and SK are both realy scummy but i dunno.
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Post Post #1406 (isolation #52) » Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:34 pm

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Actually why is SH still alive? wasnt he confirmed town? Lol, he should have been the natural night kill pick.

Not only that but his play has been very awkward, all the way to the part where he voted for vboigt yesterday, unvoted for whatever, then voted again.

I dunno ill think of this.
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