Open 590: Diffusion of Power (Town Win)

[House]

/confirm

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Username is too tryhard.

[House]

Confirm! I finally rolled scum!

VOTE: House

The man claims scum.

VOTE: BBT

[House]

/Confirm
VOTE: house
I'm going to keep up a noble tradition.

Derp for life, brah.

Now be smart and vote claimed scum.

[House]

/confirm

We can vote for people already?

Obviously.

Don't you see all the votes?

[House]

VOTE: Mentor

What happened to your certainty that I was caught scum?

VOTE: BBT

[House]

I know you're scum.

I have to find your buddies now.

B/S.

Why move off someone you're certain is scum in order to speculate?

Dissembling BBT is dissembling.

[House]

Not sure if serious...

As much as you are, bubbala.

[House]

Green Crayon - What's RVS? Also, a lot of the assumptions you are making about me are incorrect. I think you either have a misunderstanding about what I've said, or you are trying to take an easy shot at someone who is new here. In either case, I'm town and you are wrong.

I'm trying to work through your rationale for focusing on whether votes were possible rather than on the votes themselves, and the justification for your position don't really stand up to a "does this make sense if I put myself in Mentor's shoes and try to be rational about Mentor's play?" Which was the point of my post.

You can try to explain yourself further instead of appealing to "I'm new (to this website)." My eyes and ears are open.

(Still catching up)

The easy explanation is that Mentor is newb and uncertain on game mechanics. Do they not strike you as newb? I think you're overanalyzing and making assumptions.

[House]

House is confirmed town.

What? How?

[House]

So, what do you say we stop pussy-footing around with the finger-pointing and mass claim?

Scum will be those who either refuse to claim or among those with a counterclaim.

Those who do not get counterclaimed are conftown.

[House]

mastin was SK though...
and tth was really the one doing the (correct) suspecting of mastin

what are the similarities from that game to this one you see here?

Hey Antihero, I wanna tunnel you.

Scumread me, please.

[House]

get in line. if you want your scum read you have to earn it like chivri, penguin, and inte

You're clearly scum, avoiding confrontation because you know I tunnel hardcore when I'm scumread.

[House]

Look at that, Anti.

I'm not voting anyone.

How scummy. How can you not be scumreading me? You're dodging my attention.

[House]

VOTE: ChriVi

[House]

The previous 3 posts don't make sense to me following my quickhammer of ChiVi.

[House]

^ Scumposting.

Mentor either wanted to make sure ChriVi was hammered in case mine wasn't the hammer vote (which it was, so...), or he wanted to look like he was "with town" on wanting ChriVi out of the game.

The flip will tell which of the two.

[House]

VOTE: killapenwin

[House]

Killa

post 170: The tone of this post comes off as too cautious to engage Chrivi, especially the bolded.

post 175: Using pre-flip association + reaching looks like scum knowing there’s a big chance that his partner is being lynched, so he jumps on the wagon for town cred but doesn’t want to come up with any valid reasons, so he just uses pre flip association, connecting a townie to scum.

post 177: How convenient that the interaction that caused the pre flip association stopped him from voting NM for naked voting.

post 240: A bussing attempt.

randomidget

post 182: The is so fake, lol. I would also love to hear randomidget’s reason for why House is confirmed town.

post 248: Omg. He avoids the Chrivi lynch for the whole day and then puts him at L-1 out of nowhere, and his reason is “bc bandwagon”. Would scum act so obviously scummy?

post 250: Lol. Another fake-toned post.

Mentor

post 254: I agree with House. The “late” vote looks planned.

My reads so far are:

Town
BBT
GC
NM
Creative

Null
House
inte

Scum
killa
random
Mentor


VOTE: killa

Dude, how the fuck am I null to you?

Commit to a read before people figure out that we are scum together.

[House]

you look like a troll
no content
empty random votes

cheap snark that makes games completely unfun to play

hi im droog : )

Aside from the "cheap snark that makes games completely unfun to play" bit (which is subjective), you could be describing me.

Do you think that is scum behavior?

[House]

Dude, how the fuck am I null to you?

Commit to a read before people figure out that we are scum together.

Your sarcastic posts are funny but pretty null atm.

Do you often agree with null reads?

Not poking at you, I'm simply curious. Personally, I try to get a bead on a player before I give their posts much credence.

[House]

Also there was a decent chance chriv wouldn't have been lynched if I hadn't voted them.

Considering there were 2 votes after the hammer, how do you figure?

[House]

Also there was a decent chance chriv wouldn't have been lynched if I hadn't voted them.

What are you trying to demonstrate with this? It's not like you could realistically anticipate that quickhammer.

If I'm in a game, you can anticipate a quickhammer.

random knows this.

That doesn't change the fact ChriVi ended the day at L+2 which makes me wonder why random thinks he was a deciding factor in the lynch.

[House]

House deliberately does that sort of thing as town to protect his scum game, he could be scum but this looks more like flippant town house, if we're hunting off the wagon killa is easily the better choice

While it's nice that you notice things, I'd personally prefer it if you'd keep your opinions on me to yourself. At least until it can be determined whether the person suspecting me is genuine or just scum pushing an easy mark.

[House]

no house to quikhammer rip

I briefly considered unvoting and hoping somebody else put him at L-1.

[House]

no. it's house.

VOTE: house

Nope, not me mang. Vote elsewhere today.

[House]

Random is conf town. Are you claiming a cop guilty Mentor?

If he does, he needs to be turbolynched tomorrow.

[House]

hey
so can we not speedlynch
before i even get to catch up
thanks <3

Why did you not
use last night
to catch up?

[House]

^ Scumposting.

Mentor either wanted to make sure ChriVi was hammered in case mine wasn't the hammer vote (which it was, so...), or he wanted to look like he was "with town" on wanting ChriVi out of the game.

The flip will tell which of the two.

VOTE: Mentor

[House]

Why do you think inte and I are town and BBT is possibly one of the mafia?

Why are you interested in yourself, inte and myself and excluding NM and House?

Why are you interested in Newbie's self-interest?

[House]

Can you guys please slow down the votewagons? last day we lynched a town in two pages, i didn´t even had the time to post anything

ok so

GC

was real, therefore

random

is also confirmed.

between

killapenwin

votes there is probably one of the mafia team

killapenwin

(6) - LYNCH: House, Newbie, Green Crayons, inte, Not_Mafia, BlueBloodedToffee

I think

Newbie

and

inte

are both towns, so i think is very likely that there is atleast one mafia of

House

,

Not_mafia

or

BBT

Please post town cases for inte and Newbie.

kthxbai.

[House]

Why do you think inte and I are town and BBT is possibly one of the mafia?

Why are you interested in yourself, inte and myself and excluding NM and House?

Why are you interested in Newbie's self-interest?

Point of question was the exclusion of yourself and NM.

Well we seem to be PoE'ed out of his townreads. That's why I am asking for town cases on his townreads on the wagon.

[House]

House

reads are so off that i can´t believe that they come from a townie perspective

That read is just silly.

[House]

VOTE: Newbie

Because I don't understand his vote or the unexplained townread on him.

[House]

@Creative How is NM being a troll and useless? What do you think of droog?

@Mentor Why NM and BBT?

@House So you think Creative is scum who gave his partner a town read, but you're not voting for Creative? Wat.

Actually I wanted an excuse to unvote Mentor after he unvoted me, if you want to get technical about it.

[House]

Ok. First of all - why is inte town?? Why is Newbie town? I seriously have no recollection of Newbie doing anything substantial.

On the killa wagon, I'm looking at inte, NM or BBT, with preference on inte then BBT.

So you don't think I've done anything to be seen as town by, but you don't have me down as one of your suspects on the killa wagon? Wat.

I would think self-interest comes from being nervous about how people are reading you, and the only people who would be nervous about that are scum

. Town just get mad.

What? Then why am I not a suspect along with BBT and NM?

@Creative How is NM being a troll and useless? What do you think of droog?

@Mentor Why NM and BBT?

@House So you think Creative is scum who gave his partner a town read, but you're not voting for Creative? Wat.

Actually I wanted an excuse to unvote Mentor after he unvoted me, if you want to get technical about it.

So you never thought Mentor was scum in the first place?

Mentor wasn't a blip on my radar until that shitty L+1 hammer.

1 post does not a scum make.

[House]

no. it's house.

VOTE: house

Nope, not me mang. Vote elsewhere today.

I don't like this, for reasons I can't put my finger on.

cuz its a pr 'slip'

Right. Which is totally scummy considering all town are PR's.

Wow, the derpitude over that hint to leave me the fuck alone today is just retardulous.

[House]

the hammer, while funny, was very convenient Xd plus some of the stuff he says doesn't fit with me. idk i'm bad at making actual cases

Why don't you tell us how I'm 1 of 3 top scum choices for you when you only rate me as a 4 on the 1-10 scale. Why don't you tell us why Newbie isn't included in this little triangle(square?), considering we're both supposedly equally scummy?

[House]

plus house and mentor are the only two players that chivri didn't try to engage

plus house tried to get us to massklaim

those guys just dont seem town oriented

When all of town are cops, what exactly is so scummy about mass claiming? I obviously wasn't aware that multiple players having the same night was a thing, so my suggestion made all sorts of sense from my perspective.

[House]

Official Vote Count

inte

(4

L-1

): BlueBloodedToffee, randomidget, droog, Not_Mafia

Mentor

(3): Newbie, inte, Creative

Newbie

(1): House

Not Voting

(1): Mentor

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-04-05 11:00:00)

Night night

VOTE: inte

[House]

sup?

[House]

whats going on bro

Nothing much, kicking back with some chicken nuggets and ketchup.

You called me back to the game for small talk?

[House]

I mean... I'm kinda flattered.

[House]

nice nice
do you eat those with your hands
a fork
or a hammer?

I do all my best work with a hammer, I'd never soil it with ketchup.

[House]

Mentor is town, y'all.

[House]

Oh right, I should mention... I was N3 Cop.

Safe to lynch me now if you think I'm scum. =P

[House]

I honestly don't get why I wasn't the NK.

I all but screamed that much yesterday.

We has a case of the dumb scumz.

[House]

House isn't clear

If I'm not clear, Mentor's not clear.

if Mentor's not clear, Not_Mafia's not clear.

[House]

Lynch me, it clears Mentor & by extension, Not_Mafia.

[House]

Confirm! I finally rolled scum!

VOTE: House

Didn't you recently say you were going to do this when you, in fact, rolled scum?

Please confirm/deny truthfully, I don't want to do research.

Umm, maybe? I don't know...

VOTE: BBT

[House]

Now, I'll ask a not-too-random sampling of

@BBT

,

@random,

and

@Not_Mafia

: how do you feel about Creative, and this particular quotation from 142? Please compare what he's saying here with his positions on players in Post 132.

Creative is town, I'm liking their posts so far.

What do you think of this sentiment, Not_Mafia?

[House]

Um, so it's possible to have cops for the same nights?

Somebody hasn't been following the game.

[House]

So, what do you say we stop pussy-footing around with the finger-pointing and mass claim?

Scum will be those who either refuse to claim or among those with a counterclaim.

Those who do not get counterclaimed are conftown.

from the wiki page:

Daystart
The Mod randomises how many Cops and Docs there are: 1/3rd chance of a 4/6, 5/5 or 6/4 split each.
The Mod then randomises a number from 1-5 for each town player. This is the one night that the players' role works on.

It's possible for there to be multiple players with the same power and night.

Mafia are told pregame exactly how many Cops and Docs exist in the setup, but not who and what nights they are.
Cops and Doctors flip only as "Town Cop" or "Town Doctor".

massclaim's not a breaking strategy here, house. any reads?

[House]

Doesn't really matter but

@dave what night doctor was droog

VOTE: BBT This is long overdue now

It is? Why?

Don't rule out House+Mentor scumteam btw, having said that I don't think they're the scum team.

That's some nice fluff. Why even mention they could be scum if you don't think they're scum? That's so weird.

not_mafia is not guilty.

Is that a cop result?

Is that a cop result?

yes. N3 cop.

This interaction is off and I can't put my finger on why. Something is going on there. My initial though was scum claiming an innocent on a buddy, but that is pretty dangerous play at this point of the game.

Think am gonna do this

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Yeah dude, except I cleared Mentor and Mentor cleared NM.

So... you trying to lynch cop cleared town = scum.

[House]

inb4 we're all scum together.

[House]

Right, thanks for that post BBT, made things a lot simpler

VOTE: BBT

Creative probably the partner

Random pls keep up tradition an quickhammer

idk, I'm kinda liking Newbie for tomorrow and think he should be checked tonight if there are any cops left.

[House]

Yeah, I haven't been following shit.

Lynch me.

Your AtE isn't gonna work here. You had to read my posts to build your supposed case against NM.

[House]

Oh and also, I was night 1 doctor. Protected GC.

Where did this come from and how did claiming help town?

You just confirmed to scum that you're not a threat to them, if you're actually town.

[House]

Why should it matter, though? If you and Mentor are telling the truth, then you two + NM and random are confirmed town. There's only two mafia left which can only be BBT and Creative.

[House]

Sweet.

[House]

We literally cannot lose now.

Newbie & Creative <-- scum in there. Lynch one today, the other the next if the first flips scum.

Scum, feel free to just surrender. It's over with brah.

[House]

VOTE: Creative

Here is our last scum.

[House]

Game, set, match.

[House]

lol, forgot there was no NK.

C'mon fellas, join the fun.

[House]

Thanks for the game, davesaz.

GG all!