Open 621 (C9++): The ZAR SHOW S1 Holiday Special - OVER!

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/confirm

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Ladies and gentlemen, the best and most legendary player of mafiascum.net has returned.

VOTE: Yosarian2

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How dare you

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WE WERE A TEAM

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So you want me to town it up for yall or am I playing my normal scummy game?

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I missed that post. Greetings and welcome to the game BBT.

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All town

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VOTE: Lucky2u

Found scum.

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AlwaysInnocent made a very good first impression on me the first time I encountered him. Recently, I'm not seeing the same spark. I invited him to join this game to play with the legends and the pros, but I'm doubting his alignment also. I'm fine with sticking with my Lucky vote for now.

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It's way too early to talk about lurking. This isn't a blitz game.

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My scum pool is Lowell and Lucky.

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The ghosts of christmas past told me

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Both are town.

Lowell's reads are off. Either he or Lucky are scum or both.

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Because stone cold said so

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This is totally wrong ^

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I think you're scum.

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I completely disagree with this, this seems so backwards but if you truly believe this it should be helpful in understanding your actions. Game theory is not alignment indictive, I know, but I'm almost willing to make an exception for this...

You don't think scum look somewhat null in the beginning of the game?

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oh I'm only asking you to unvote me because you said you would. You left your vote on me because I was being a lurker, which I was. Now that I am back, explain why I am scum or unvote me. I already told you who my scum reads are, read again if you didn't catch it. So who looks most town? For me that question is really, who appears the least scum? That would be BBT right now.

You seem to care an awful lot about being voted.

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I don't want you to move your vote, I don't really care about that. My concern is that you parked your vote on a player who was a then lurker so you wouldn't have to take a stance on anyone else. Now that I'm here and active, if you truly believe me to be scum then I've achieved my goal. You're not hiding your vote.

First of all, I don't know where did you got the idea that Yosarian was voting you because you were lurking, he never said that. He said he was townreading players who were active and doing interesting things. You seem to have extrapolated from that sentence that he's solely voting you because of your absence, which you're justifying for him why he should be unvoting you.

Second of all, Yosarian is one of the players who has provided the most reads and opinions. Your accusation that he's hiding behind a lurker vote is outrageous.

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Yosarian, what's the main account of roflcopter?

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I missed that post. Nevertheless, my second point stands.

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Yosarian actually seems very reasonable and logical to me.

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Lucky is still our best bet for a scum flip.

I think Yosarian-BBT is town-town right now.

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Let's get a bandwagon on Lucky going.

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Because BBT and Yosarian are both doing pro-town things. They are probably wrong, but still doing pro-town things.

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V/LA holidays

~. I'd appreciate a time length for the V/LA. I'll grant you 72 hours, after which you'll be prodded. ~~.Zar

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will be back probably the 1st no time to catch up until then

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This Yos v. BBT is a fucking disgraceful distraction. It's a belated, neatly wrapped Christmas present for scum. Both are fucking town and tunnelling like crazy. Work together. Maybe things will happen and the rest of the townsfolks will revisit their town read on both of you. You're both good players. Don't let your confirmation bias rule how you play this day. You're ruining this for everyone.

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AlwaysInnocent (4): Lucky2u, Aneninen, roflcopter, Lowell

I'm pretty fucking sure there are two scum voting for AI right now.

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Happy new year you dirty bastards

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VOTE: BBT

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BBT is scum. This is all too familiar to his play in Team Mafia.

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Ya definitely. BBT should have stopped but he kept going, so he's scum.

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I agree with Yosarian.

@Mod I will be inactive this weekend

~. I've updated your V/LA ~~~.Zar

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I've had a long-running assumption that BBT is town. But all right, I guess I'll reexamine that. 531 makes an interesting point. And I agree with AI's 543.

I know for a fact that he takes other players' opinions into account, plays strategically, knows what lynches can and can't be done, etc.

He's only interested in engaging Yosarian with weak ass arguments. He looks like he's holding on to his positions tightly instead of evolving reads. I'm pretty sure he's scum, seen him do the same thing before.

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Lowell, any idea what triggered that assumption?

Make your vote useful.

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No.

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Put your vote to work where you're not the only one sitting on someone nobody cares about.

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acryon (1): Kmd4390

^

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BBT was in good standing and then he just ruined himself. Like a heroin addict, he threw everything away for his Yosarian vote and now his stock price and credibility are at rock bottom. If he had any shred of town in him, he would have listened to me and the others and backed off this ridiculous nonsensical tunnel.

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? for the underlined part

I said "BBT stop this madness" and he ignored. If town he probably would have given consideration.

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Why should BBT listen to you?

We have an affinity.

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AlwaysInnocent (5): Kmd4390, Lucky2u, Aneninen, roflcopter, Lowell
BlueBloodedToffee (3): Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage, texcat
Lowell (3): shaddowez, AlwaysInnocent, Kop
Yosarian2 (1): BlueBloodedToffee

BBT stop your crusade.

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ABR, you used that affinity against me the last time we played and completely fooled me. Remember that? What makes you think I would be so trusting this time around?

I want to keep you around but you're not scumhunting, you're tunneling.

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Additionally, with the amount of people reading Yos as town, if BBT were scum wouldn't it make more sense for him to try for more low hanging fruit at this point then continuing to push on his read?

It offers him a number of advantages:

-He's not on any mislynches today
-He keeps his interactions and accusations low enough to not attach himself to anyone
-He hunkers down and waits for a mislynch to happen

Tunnelling on town and not getting flak for it is a great strategy. Scumhunting and changing reads is hard.

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Somebody explain very slowly what happened with AI and kop....i dont get it AT ALL

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Thats not a fucking explanation

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I want the slow, detailed version, or I wouldn't have asked.

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Yeah, the "AI towntell" thing doesn't make any real sense to me, but the way he reacted to it looks townish.

Lets pretend none of that shit happened. Yos who you wanna lynch besides bbt?

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Why Lowell?

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So Lowell is scum, Yos is town?

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Yos is town though right? That's why you want me to vote Lowell scum.

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I've no interest in you picking up where you left off with Yos tomorrow. It's a distraction to the town.

As long as we have this understanding.

VOTE: Lowell

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I never liked british comedy until you came along

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Lowell then

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If we really fail to lynch BBT for some reason I'd accept a lynch on someone in the pool of (shaddowz, lucky,

lowell

, texcat, kop). Again, weaker town reads then everyone else. Anen is also acting a little weird but i don't know if i see him acting like this as scum.

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Looks like everyone has Lowell on their compromise lynch list.

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In my experience those lynches are usually good.

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Well do you want to lynch texcat?

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texcat and Lowell being on it makes me uneasy

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24 hours left to lynch. choose texcat or lowell imo

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This.

Very different when people are saying "meh they are scummy but not at the top of my list"

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24 hours left to lynch. choose texcat or lowell imo

The BBT wagon is still as big as either, and I stil think he's more like to flip scum.

nah lets lynch texcat or lowell

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VOTE: texcat

Let's do this

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I'll vote tex if that's what it takes. But he ALSO just looks like a compromise wagon just before deadline (albeit a scummier one).

ya that's what it takes

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Let's not do this. Doesn't it bother anyone that Kmd is the one who started this wagon?

It really doesn't bother me than kmd started this wagon.

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Typical scum springs into action as soon as they are in danger. Happy to lurk away the day otherwise. Lynch texcat please.

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Lowell should vote texcat

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Ya. Read kmd's posts.

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Lynch now

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Hammer

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I dunno texcat.... You've put so little energy into this game its hard to tell your alignment

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Hammer texcat she wont contribute anymore tomorrow than she did today

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VOTE: BBT

VOTE: BBT

Tex looks town. Let's turn it around.

You will be part of a mislynch. We're continuing with texcat.

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I'm not ok at all with survivalistic texcat.

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5 hours left are you guys serious vote texcat wow

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Immense letdown. Roflcopter replacing out was really bad. The last day was awful. I caught Anenein Day 1. You guys need to step up.

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Immense letdown. Roflcopter replacing out was really bad. The last day was awful. I caught Anenein Day 1. You guys need to step up.

ABR, you're the best.

I'm good with PT being released.

Aw thanks man.

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Can't step it up when town is yelling at me over not understanding the intricacies of a 50 page game.

You got lazy, and lost faith. I think you might have been able to turn it around if you put in more effort. What scares me is to

not do the work

and not get the intended result, if I

do the work

and don't get the result, that is infinitely better.

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It's not coincidence.

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To the uninitiated eye.

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Read more of my games kid.