Open 658 Making Friends and Enemies | Game Over

[tojam2]

VOTE: MiniDeathStar

Choo choo...

[tojam2]

VOTE: MiniDeathStar

Choo choo...

Why the Deathstar wagon and not the doomfeathers one?

@tojam2

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@Transcend

Reasoning please. Early wagons are totally useless if you don't give your reasons for voting that person in particular.

You honestly think my first post is who I think is scum.

[tojam2]

Looking at p.3 meta from a game I modded suggested that Transcend scum trolls significantly more than other players.

[tojam2]

[/vote] tojam2 dude has like 1 post over 9 pages
Also I think zealousness is a good thing for town

So posting Sunday morning, not being on in the afternoon and being at college for most of today is AlInd?

[tojam2]

How did you know @doomfeathers ?

[tojam2]

VOTE: Transcend
I can't put up with another 3 months worth of s***posting, I thought I'd seen the end of it but NO, Transcend comes back to haunt me AGAIN.

[tojam2]

@oddmusic, @mds: No, I haven't caught up. I have meta scum read on Transcend (my best scum read rn) but I don't like sad treating inactivity as a scum read either. MDS, you seem to be making good posts and Aubrey I can't say I remember many of your posts.

[tojam2]

Creature says that Transcend is good as scum. Assume that is correct, then MariaR should know that as well, and it is unlikely she'll protect him.

I can testify to that, the s***posting throws people off if they're not lynched D1.

[tojam2]

@doom, we have 3 scum to find, I never claimed to be remotely good at mafia so if you think my content is useless then you can ask Io to replace me.

[tojam2]

Looking at p.15, I'm the most unreadable player right now, either conftown or lynchee. That probably puts own in a better place to lynch me day 1, so stuff starts clearing up, if we get to the last day I will self-vote, even if it's hammer.

[tojam2]

UNVOTE:

Might as well take my vote off a player I know is never going to get lynched. I thought Maria self-voting is more a sign of pressure and not an appeal to us, no matter how Maria frames her argument.

[tojam2]

About 417, I think you guys are taking it out of context, on p.15 most of you were die-hard voting for me or null/town reading me, me dying, though being an infolynch would provide you with something to go on.

[tojam2]

I just had a thought

TJ2's vote on me was kinda awkward and he unvoted really quickly. Looks kinda like a vanity scumvote.

I just had a thought

TJ2's vote on me was kinda awkward and he unvoted really quickly. Looks kinda like a vanity scumvote.

This was my post. Sorry guys. Posted on a hydra.

Thanks for clarifying.
You were my most scummy read at the time, mostly because of your s***posting scum meta I got form Open 646.

[tojam2]

*from not form

[tojam2]

Got to p.23, realised that most of the discussion was about the use of an acronym and skipped to here. And you say I'm the one who posts crap.

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@oddmusic, if all I see is nonsense, all I say is nonsense.

[tojam2]

Okay, tracked down your quote on tojam:

All that being said, why would Toejam offer his life when Maria is getting shat on for doing it by me, and when he really isn't under fire at that given time? Yes the lil guy has 2 voters on his ass, but is that enough to really attempt the damsel in distress play as scum? Unlikely. Reads more like a lazy townie. Could totally be wrong here, but that is what it reads as to me.

Problem is, I can't tell what you're referring to exactly. When did tojam "offer his life"? I just don't get what you're talking about here honestly.

Yes, I was offering my life, and still will if necessary

[tojam2]

I think tojam takes too much upon himself

What do you mean?

My current player read list I have.

1) Transcend: Scum Lean?
2) Creature: Null Town Lean?
3) Burgerking: Null scum lean
4)

Aristophanes

: Null
5) BK201: Null scum lean
6) sad1492: Null town lean, but willing to lynch
7)

MariaR

Gamma: town lean
8) Aubrey
9)

MiniDeathStar

mhsmith: Null Null Town Lean
10) oddmusic: town lean
11) Secret Agent Jin: Null scum lean
12) doomfeathers: Null scum lean
13) tojam2: Null but willing to lynch (The smallest of small town leans. Smaller than the world's tiniest violin.)

If Null is before town or scum lean, then it just means its a weaker read that a flat out town/scum lean.

? means I'm a bit perplexed as to why I feel the way I do, but I do.

This list literally changes daily. Usually multiple times at that.

Trust me I've seen many violins in my time (including one made of pottery), but the smallest was 30 atoms long.

[tojam2]

Sad, that's not pressure. I actually see voting for pressure as scummy seen as it never actually works.

[tojam2]

I tr sad ?

[tojam2]

@oddmusic sad and me is scum v town, my lynch feels inevitable so you'll find out soon enough.

[tojam2]

@oddmusic, you can check my past games (I think it was a newbie pre-1700) where there were 5 pages of chat about pressure votes. That's why I have a strong opinion on this.

[tojam2]

Oh I haven't voted :/
Thought I'd voted sad.
VOTE: sad

[tojam2]

I wanted a Transcend lynch but NO, tojam had to distract us
Actually that makes a lot of sense
VOTE: Tojam2

Yes, you wanted a Transcend lynch, get a player who could do damage to you and keep them out of the game.
VOTE: gamma

[tojam2]

Thing is gamma as soon as I get lynched and I flip town, you've screwed your team be it town or scum.

[tojam2]

Gamma, i's twilight, if you're town say everything you know or think here, we can determine whether to believe you or not at the flip. If you're scum, f*** you scumbag.

[tojam2]

Saj, that looks so much like bussing at the end there.

[tojam2]

Godammit Statesmen its at least 10 am why haven't you posted?

[tojam2]

No idea

Saj's vote was actually really weird and I'm not sure why he hammered so fast

I'll let him explain that.

I hammered because i wanted the day done. I wish i could tell you there was a complex reason behind it.

Bs, VOTE: SAJ

[tojam2]

VOTE: flubbernugget any reason why or just a pressure vote?

[tojam2]

VOTE: flubbernugget any reason why or just a pressure vote?

1) nobody seems to care that you are scum, and I don't have the time or patience to harass everyone over it

2) Transcend is screaming about how he's not scum because he was a big contribution to the Gamma wagon. One push doesn't make someone town, and it looks to me like Transcend is trying to coast off a bus. He is not furthering his reads in any reasonable proportion to his aggression.

I don't ever recall a time someone was so certain on Day 2 of all 3 mafia members, also I don't recall a time when 2 mafia members both pushed for one of their own's lynch.

[tojam2]

Why exactly were you voting for Transcend?

My meta on him s***posting, which from a mod's perspective was sometimes quite funny to see, until he called me a s*** host, the players s*** players and Mafia a s*** game.

[tojam2]

Flubbernugget could you please explain the use of quoting things I say and adding no substance.

[tojam2]

Why exactly were you voting for Transcend?

My meta on him s***posting, which from a mod's perspective was sometimes quite funny to see, until he called me a s*** host, the players s*** players and Mafia a s*** game.

I didn't mean any of that btw

Apologies if you were offended

DW, that was back in July

[tojam2]

Looking at p.53, is there actually a lynch or am i being f***ed with?

[tojam2]

No, it's just Io having not posted yet.

[tojam2]

First post, damnit we lost mason.

[tojam2]

Okay...

[tojam2]

@odd: What would you put on me being scum now?

[tojam2]

Rip, he's gone. Fitz ^

[tojam2]

DAMNIT IO I WANTED FIRST POST AGAIN

Trans why??? I guess it was inevitable but he should have pushed against it more.

[tojam2]

Me as over-excited student: Ooh, ooh I do Latin toothough Prof. Io!

[tojam2]

I'm English so I'll respect Thanksgiving and wait for you guys to start posting again

[tojam2]

@BK, if my vote isn't somewhere useful, I'm not helping town.

[tojam2]

@BK: I have an odd habit as getting to the end-game as scum. Note my first Mafia game (Newbie 1663 I think) I was lynched the day I was replaced (by 2 very good scum players, I was the only one to suspect them).

[tojam2]

[.vote]SA what he's L1?! lol I don't know who I'll vote yet.

I'll vote Titus to balance's sake.
VOTE: Titus

[tojam2]

Hey, Jin's posting on this page alone is enough.

1) I vote Jin.
2) He wants to work through my reasonong, as if he knows I am town.
3) VC happens
4) Jin attempts to throw mud at Creature, while saying he "could agree on me".
5)Jin pleads for people to get off "because they'll look bad" which is inconsistent with both mafia allegedly being on his wagon.

Bonus 1539 looks copied from a scum pt.

I was pretending to hammer.

[tojam2]

Also, we may go to LYLO if we mislynch, but if one is scum, the other is most likely mason.

So either Titus is telling the truth or SAJ is not outing himself yet.
Him being mason would explain some of his erratic activity maybe.

[tojam2]

So we have 2 VTs, 2 Maf and 1 Mason, who I assume is SAJ

[tojam2]

2 its lylo, so don't vote unless you have a conf

[tojam2]

Of course if you follow my advice and we don't vote until the last 48 hrs we should prevent a scum quick hammer.

[tojam2]

I'd also like to point out that if I'm scum why was I right on 3/4 lynches so far.

[tojam2]

@Io: were there 2 masons at the start?

[tojam2]

Fitz I was on the scum lynch d1, and off the town lynches d2 and d3. I make that 3/4

[tojam2]

@Flub but of course you'd say that because you didn't vote scum d1 and you were on the wrong side of the Trans lynch

[tojam2]

Also, if I don't convince the 2 townies of you that I'm town, we lose

[tojam2]

Nks are nai by the way, you're falling for a frame, trust me I've tried it before.

[tojam2]

I think scum is flub and bk.

[tojam2]

Well seen as we all agree on Flub, let's lynch him first.

[tojam2]

VOTE: Flub

[tojam2]

gg