Cause obviously your strategy is that your name is so long that no one will try to vote for you, so now I will name you JB.
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I thought you meant that there wasn't a single cop ever made in this game. I knew that the cop died.... just kinda forgot when I posted lol.
Alvin, I guess you missed his morning post too, because it says:
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Why did you L-1 Khelvaster already without him giving a single word?rofl wrote: unvote, vote: khelvaster
i would be happy to lynch either khelvaster or alvin at this point, depending on what khelvaster says when he finally gets his butt in here. if alvin is extra dumb they could be scum together, but i think the more likely explanation is that khelv is the scum and alvin is the village idiot.-
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If I really didn't like your vote, then I would have unvoted immediately. It was just a question. You overreacted which gives you a scum point. I'm fine with my vote and I believe he is scum.if you're so upset about him being at lynch-1 then unvote him, you're on the wagon too. until then don't bitch at me about it.
Cop?i've got a pretty good idea who at least one of his partners is too, but i'll save that for tomorrow and let the remaining scum squirm.
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Sorry no can do...Minineko wrote:
Being stupid is NOT a good strategy. It only benefits scum.alvinz95 wrote: Cause I'm playing recklessly in this game and trying out a new style which is acting incredibly scummy .
TOWNIE acting stupid
-We lose a townie opinion
-Often gets self lynched
SCUM acting stupid
-Is impossible to read
-Can get away with all sorts of things (i.e. we almost dismissed you as village idiot)
So, until you turn around and start making an effort at scumhunting, vote will not move.
I'm in way too many games so I'm just trying to have fun by using what I really think rather than logical thinking.
Really, I the only people on me should be scum since they probably laughed really hard when I hammered for the heck of it. Yes I am a town idiot.
Since you seem to be pushing for my lynch more....
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Yes Oh my god you suck. Thats why i vote you.Minineko wrote:OMGUS much?
I have the same issue as with lurkers. If we can't read you, how on Earth are we supposed to figure out your alignment? If we lynch you, there's a good chance you're town, and if we don't, you could be scum getting away with murder.
Seriously, play properly, or don't be in so many games. The way you are playing now only hurts the town. That's why my vote is on you.
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Of course she overall asked if I was a town idiot so I say I'm a town idiot. And a defense? I haven't played a defense all game. All I basically did was Oh my god you suck.extreme wrote:What the hell? Not once in that post did you try and defend yourself from his accusations. Then you went and claimed you were the village idiot, just trying to cover your tracks-
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Obviously I'm trying a new strategy, so a meta isn't useful at all. What changed is what I thought the town might do, and now that they've done the right thing, my thoughts have changed.EA wrote:I'm not sure how useful a meta-read on alvinz is since he's not playing like he did in any of his previous games, but there's one thing I am certain on: unless he's somehow managed to drop several dozen IQ points in between when I read him and this game, I don't believe for a second that he's a "village idiot". He knows damn well what he's doing, and I know he knows.
Sure. WIll start later today.ice wrote:Alvin you are beginning to step into the territory where lynching you simply to remove you from the game because you're distracting us from accomplishing anything would be to our advantage. I still don't think you're scum but please try help because right now you are working against us.-
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Exaclty what I said with force. Good job. This wagon is nonsense. I have claimed doctor. So all of you, (pretending you are all town) are willing to kill off a powerrole just because I am a liability?roflcopter wrote:riddle me this, xyzzy: in what situation would a replacement make a nearly rock solid case against eljcko but still say that they felt he was town, and then vote for the easiest wagon available?
i think you guys can guess who i was hinting at earlier as a scumpartner for khel. xyzzy made it about a hundred times more obvious.
this alvin wagon is dumb and made of scum. minineko, your bullshit about voting for somebody you want to prod into action over voting for the person you find scummy is totally, completely ridiculous, especially given that your "prod into action" vote is now on the guy at lynch-1.
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You just repeated my question. So you are willing to sacrifice a powerrole just because i'm a liability? What kind of bullshit is that? This is totally scummy behavior. You just want to rid of a powerrole. And yes, most likely all the scum are on my wagon. I've already said I won't do anything stupid anymore.Are you literally claiming that everyone on your wagon is scum? You need to die no matter what - even in the slim chance that you are protown, you'll be a huge liability if you survive to endgame. We can't win as long as you are alive.
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Way to completely miscontrue my words.xyzzy wrote:
By the way,alvinz95 wrote:Obviously, I'm targeting you. Before I didn't really play. Now, since you are especially pressing for my lynch, especially since I'm a powerrole, makes you the most scummy.
"I've claimed something, and you don't believe my infinite wisdom. You're scum. Furthermore, you've voted for me. Die, scum, die!"
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-You don't care if I'm a powerrole or not, you just want to lynch me.
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So a "scummy" player should be replaced just because they are hurting to town? That makes no sense. You can't replace me for my play style. Its just not right. And I'm already starting to play properly.minneko wrote:Xyl, may we please replace alvinz95 with a player who is willing to play the game properly insead of intentionally hurting his own team? Thank you.
How xyzzy's argument is complete bogus and flawed:minneko wrote:In the whole xyzzy/rolfcopter argument, xyzzy is coming off more protown IMO.
-He is implying he is willing to lynch me even if I'm the doc because I'm a liability (thats like saying, lets lynch the investigated townie just because he's acting scummy!)
-He is definitely scum because of that.
-He is stubborn on me
-He is "woah i'm an IC i'm right you all suck"
-Continually lingering on the fact that I'm destroying the game, when I'm really not
-I find most of his posts just as a comeback or a shot back, rather than a defense.
"i'm cool, you're not, you suck" playxyzzy wrote:You have no understanding of good town play, or else you'd see that a player who makes the attacks you're making are absurd.
you keep on using my dumb hammer as an excuse that I'm completely screwing up the game.xyzzy wrote:Is that a bad thing? If alvinz is really protown, can we trust him to not screw up the game? I'd rather not bet the game on that, even in the incredibly unlikely instance that he is town.
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1. No, that makes no sense. Why would you risk a lylo just for a dumb person?minneko wrote:-No, it's like saying "Maybe we should lynch someone who is likely town because there is a good chance he will DOOM US if he survives to endgame". Which makes sense. Please stay rational so we don't have to do that.
-No, he's not. Whether he's taking it too far or not, it doesn't guarantee him being scum. That's just silly.
-You're in a terrible position to accuse others of stubbornness, which isn't a scum tell anyway.
-IC's are for newb games. They don't exist here. ><
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2. Well, right now I think xyzzy is 90% scum.
3. Fair enough.
4. Don't be a wise guy. You know I meant "experienced".
5. Again, don't be a wise guy. I was, but I haven't been for the past few posts, but you and xyzzy continually are using that as an excuse.
6. No, he's just shooting back like a wise guy. See post 173 as an example.
What is with your support of xyzzy? Scumpal? I was beginnning to think that, then doubted myself because you unvoted and requested a replacement of me, but now your making me change my mind.minneko wrote:No, it's a "you're being unreasonable on purpose, please stop" post which was perfectly correct.
You STILL are lingering on the fact that I'm messing it up. You AGAIN support xyzzy. Your goal is to probably convince the town and start the wagon on me.minneko wrote:The concern is legitimate. If you keep going the way you were going like.. yesterday, there's a serious risk of that happening. You've done it once, it's not unreasonable to assume if given a chance you'd do it again.
Scum want the easiest lynch possible. After I did the fun hammer, they immediately thought that I was the easiest lynch. I know I'm the doctor, scum know I'm town. A real town will see through the dumbness. Scum are trying to start a wagon on me because 1. I'm a powerrole and 2. Easiest target, to "have a legitimate excuse" though it is completely flawed currently.minneko wrote:So you're act irrational and scummy on purpose, and when people call you out on it, they are guaranteed scum? That makes sense. :/
In my opinion, I'm thinking xyzzy-EA-eljcko or xyzzy-EA-minneko. I'm about 60% sure that minneko is scum.roflcopter wrote:'m sensing a minineko-xyzzy-eljcko axis of evil. in fact, minineko moreso than eljcko after that last doozy.
So that is the reason why we should lynch a powerrole! You make no sense. This has to be scum.minneko wrote:2. Well, there are 8 of us, and most likely 3 scums. That is quite likely LyLo. We should be careful. Bla bla obv obv.
minneko wrote:My concern was legitimate. Do you want a guy running around being reckless, useless and uncooperative for the entire game? Yes, I know he stopped doing that - that's not my point. But it seems strange for you to call me out on doing something where the intent was only to benefit town.AGAIN, you try to use this as an excuse. Trying to persuade the town to vote. You know scum? Its not going to work anymore.
What I make of minneko reply to roflcopter's attack was weak. All you did was just reflect and let it run through you rather than giving a proper defense. You just say "what is with the sarcasm" and "so what?" "thats obvious" "oooookay" "I don't take the internet seiously!"-
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Roflcopter, THIS is why a DEFINITELY think of a Erratus, Minneko, and Xyzzy scum group. Saying Minneko is the "towniest" is giving your scumpal right to us. Xyzzy is 100% scum, and YOU, have not been too helpful. You dismiss extreme and elicjko, leaving your scum pals for the town to see =) Thanks!Erratus Apathos wrote:Here's my analysis of each of today's lynch candidates. You'll notice I left off Roflcopter and IcemanE, this is intentional. They can only be scum if Alvinz is scum (they both declined the opportunity to hammer Alvinz, which they wouldn't have if they were scum and Alvinz town), so if either or both of them is scum then Alvinz must be scum and as such there's no reason to even consider lynching them before Alvinz.
2extreme1has done nothing today but bandwagon, first on Khelvaster then on Alvinz. In neither of these two posts does he come up with any insight of his own, and on the Khel vote he doesn't even tell what he finds suspicious of him. Both times, he looks more like he's "going with the flow" than scumhunting.
Not convinced he's scum, but I may pressure vote him if he continues down the path of few small posts.
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Eljckohas by far the strongest scum read other than Alvinz. All he's done today is try to stall the Alvinz wagon and then lurk like a champ. Combined with the craplogic from yesterday I still haven't seen him do anything I'd call protown. Actually since the Alvinz wagon has gone as far as it's gonna go at the moment and Eljcko needs some pressure I think he's a better use of my vote, so
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Pathetic. This type of stubborness Minneko, is scummy. You have ignored all that has been played against you, and have acted like a wise guy. If this is the only brought up against you, then why would you use me acting as a dumbfuck an excuse? The argument against you, is that you've implied that you're willing to give up a POWERROLE and get into LYLO just to get rid of a "pain" (not anymore).xyzzy wrote:Just so I can be sure of this, the only argument against me is that:
I'm on the wagon of someone who claimed something I don't believe.
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These took alot of thinking. You are definetly confusing the town.xyzzy wrote:
Presumably you didn't send in the kill for your scum team.alvinz95 wrote:So, saying your claim is true, I am not scum. Then why are you pushing for my lynch if you know that nothing happened when you Roleblocked me? This claim is bogus.
1. Khelvaster was originally "Roleblocker" and waskilled Night 0.
2.YOUreplaced Khelvaster.
Based on this, Khelvaster could never had roleblocked me on Night 1. Reexplain. We can't ask Khelvaster (identity number 1) which sucks.Is back.-
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Trying to change the subject of your scumbuddy Xyzzy? Seriously, you could have given one thought on his claim.... but no, you had to vote extreme.Erratus Apathos wrote:I've lost all patience waiting for 2ex to post something substantial. He needs to at least post a suspect listTODAY, no exception.
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Give us your thoughts on xyzzy's claim! Goddammit. Are you just ignoring him?Erratus Apathos wrote:
Good point.roflcopter wrote:no, i'm not saying in terms of balance it would be broken, i'm saying in terms of fairmodding the first roleblocker shouldn't replace a hypothetical backup roleblocker because the backup roleblocker shouldn't know the first roleblocker's N0 target. i'm 100% confident however that this didn't happen and you are scum.
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I can see the plan scum are trying to play out. They are trying to make it seem as though iceman or rofl and me are scum. Minneko was the townie out of my wagon. Minneko was against me and I was against Minneko. By showing that she was town can give people the thought that I'm scum.
Last night, I protected roflcopter, because he was the most townly.
Right now its 4 vs 2. Ectomancer and Erratus are scum. (Korts may have bussed his partner tho).
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1. Yes you are.roflcopter wrote:1) i am so awesome for nailing xyzzy to the wall like that
2) thank you alvin for the protect
3) this should come as no surprise to anyone keeping up with the theadvote: korts
i would be open to the idea of voting erratus as well, i see the argument for him as scum also, but as the korts case is my own i'm sticking with it for now.
2. Your welcome
3. Sure.
You've missed the point. You ignored him for 3 days, then merely just said "I would hammer". Thats still ignoring. If you ACTUALLY HAMMAHED then this case could be closed. You were more like "I know xyzzy is with my scum team, and I'm going to try to make everyone look at extreme, and hey! I'll throw in a little "I will hammer" sentence to make it look like I'm actually paying attention."EA wrote:So tell me, how does switching from "I think xyzzy is town and don't want his lynch" to "I think xyzzy is scum and I intend to hammer him" solely on the basis of his claim constitute ignoring his claim?
Ain't that right Bubba? THATS RIGHT! I'm the doctor, you're scum, I am god.EA wrote:
Oh your god, I suck.I said wrote:-Jumping on my wagon
Thats why basically is in there.EA wrote:You are right, everyone who thought xyzzy was town must be scum. I don't have the faintest idea how Minineko and I expected to get away with our obvscummery.Is back.-
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Sure, I was merely joking on my part. I just hope its not a claim that someone who took crack would say.Ectomancer wrote:I think you both are wrong, especially not wanting to hear a claim there, Alvinz95. That's ridiculous play and I know for fact that you are town. Back off and let him claim for fuckssakes.Is back.-
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I don't think that claim would work, cause then how did Korts die?icemanE wrote:Alvin, I agree. This is totally f'ed up. But I don't think we should do any more speculating on roles - that just gives people ideas. For example I didn't think of the backup role-blocker claim for rofl until you mentioned it, and its totally plausible. Now he can easily just claim that and it'll be believable. Also - no one vote until we figure this all out. If someone stacks two votes and the scum hammers to win, I'm gonna be pissed, especially since I have the chance to redeem myself after yesterday's screw up.Is back.-
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icemanE wrote:
Good point. I'm gonna go take a shower and think about this.alvinz wrote: I don't think that claim would work, cause then how did Korts die?If theres a Mafia Doctor, then there MUST be a town vigilante.
WHAT WE KNOW
Erratus Apathos targets Roflcopter.
-This means that erratus CANNOT be the town vigilante
-Erratus can be scum, or another powerrole.
Icemann is the Tracker (can we be sure?)
I am Even-Night Doctor (confirmed by iceman)
Roflcopter
-Can be scum, or vig.Is back.-
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