Mini Normal 2154 - Endgame

[Dunnstral]

I'd rather not say

[Dunnstral]

Hello, everyone. This is my second game on this site. In my last one I claimed mason miller which caused a lot of confusion for the town so I will be aiming to be completely truthful for this game. I am a vanilla townie again and have no active abilities.

You're not supposed to claim anything at the start of the game unless you have a reason to do so

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VOTE: bugspray

bad take

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Why are people pressing LQ for reads?

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Last game I was talking mechanics, not so much reads

Bugspray's push is scummy

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ok well, I wasn't in that game, and there's no duel mechanic in this game

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I think we should leave truth alone, at least. I think they will be pretty obvious about their alignment as the game goes on

LQ, pressuring truth really didn't do any favors in the last game you played

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Meanwhile bugspray has a shallow push and he crumbles under pressure as scum easily

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Currently though, I have a bias towards SRing Truth.

That's not a good thing though

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I do not understand how people are reaching the conclusion that Truth will be an easy sort.

Can someone explain this please? Last game Truth was not an easy sort at all and it cost Town the game.

Would've been an easy sort if I were town in that game, to be quite honest

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I found nothing wrong with redtea's posts, and Truth looks like guillotinebait. bugspray looks opportunistic trying to push the two of them as scum

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I'd like to generate more wagonomics, therefore having different avalible wagons is good

And the problem is that it reached E-3 without anyone really pushing for it, which makes it more likely imo that scum is on it

I pushed for it, though

And you unvoting looks awkward

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Man, is bugspray jest?

No, he's going to pretend he didn't see, and say if he was scum his team would have told him

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Because that's the goal of scum

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people often give me shit for voteparking at the beginning of the game (like you did) but i find that throwing the vote around for no good reason actually yields worse results so i'm willing to take flak for it. especially since sometimes you can get valuable insights into some scumfuck slots :)

Then why did you vote Truth?

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ing

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You never see mafblack users complaining about fonts, JUST saying

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?

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weird meme to be posting for yourself

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going really fast and missing details -> ninja
my actions are preventing other people from doing the right thing -> roleblocker
i dont mind getting exe'd because i know that's the only way for most of you to believe me

I played a game with bugspray where they were mafia in a micro and they claimed full commuter that can also give a knife to somebody to kill another person

The knife part was real

Ninja is not a town role, and also the ninja part of that crumb is shaky at best

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Ninja roleblocker makes no sense as a town role

Worst case scenario: it's not a big loss

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who are the innocent child claims?

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So it's a 3 ic setup

Guys, I think the ninja roleblocker claim maaaaay be a scum claim

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Also I'm not quite sure why everyone revealed instead of keeping this information a secret.

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Psyche is an IC

Based on what?

Public Information

Psyche is aligned with the Town.

Vote Count 1.4

bugspray(6)superbowl9,Dunnstral,Truth,WaltertheDunce10,Looker,Gypyx,

Psyche

(4)Nash,osuka,bugspray,redtea,

Not Voting(3)

LicketyQuickety

,0verki11,

Psyche,

osuka(0)

WaltertheDunce10(0)

Truth(0)

Gypyx(0)

LicketyQuickety

(0)

superbowl9(0)

Dunnstral(0)

Looker(0)

Nash(0)

redtea(0)

0verki11(0)

No Execute (0)


With 13 alive it is 7 to execute, and 7 to No Execute.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-28 02:40:00) or when an execution has been achieved.

Public Information

WaltertheDunce10 is aligned with the Town.

Vote Count 1.5

bugspray(5)Dunnstral,Truth,Looker,Gypyx,

WaltertheDunce10

,

Not Voting(4)

LicketyQuickety

,0verki11,

Psyche,

osuka,

Psyche

(2)Nash,redtea,

Gypyx(1)bugspray,

osuka(1)superbowl9,

WaltertheDunce10

(0)

Truth(0)

LicketyQuickety

(0)

superbowl9(0)

Dunnstral(0)

Looker(0)

Nash(0)

redtea(0)

0verki11(0)

No Execute (0)

With 13 alive it is 7 to execute, and 7 to No Execute.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-28 02:40:00) or when an execution has been achieved.

[Dunnstral]

intent to hammer bugspray

I'd be game if we weren't at three hours.

Intent to hammer so we don't no elim.

Do it

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I think this is flipping mafia.

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hehehe lets lynch pingpong guy tomrrow

And I disapprove of this

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I'm eyeing redtea right now

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what is everyone's opinion on Truth currently?

I think town

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I lean town on Gypyx and idk for osuka

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I agree with the 4 scum theory,

no.

There's 3 ic roles because there's no town investigative role

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as for bugspray... it's their fault for having a meta where they fake claim ridiculous roles as mafia, and then true claiming their ridiculous role and expecting not to die for it

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Godfather's aren't normal, but are Investigatio-Immune SK's?

SK's themselves have been made non-normal in 13 player or below sized normal games

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VOTE: Truth

VOTE: readtea

VOTE: truth

anyway VOTE: lickety

superbol9 posts add nothing original and just ask really easy questions
VOTE: superbowl9

take for ecample 98there's no followup
i'd expect a town who actually wanted another player's reads to really follow up

what the fuck is 166 "for now"? he never even had shade on dunn before and is acting like a scumread is now townish

hes just asking people low ahnging fruit questions

VOTE: psyche I agree he's fucking weird in a scum way

VOTE: looker thats pretty convincing tbh and also i just personally dislike looker

but i will try to contribute to getting scum lynched
VOTE: psyche
going to repark my vote here for now and then actually fuck off until i have a somewhat comprehensible readlist

VOTE: osuka

that puts me at e-1 for a green flip
VOTE: gypyx

Truth, problem is that even if they're actually scum, a claim serves no prupose, so please, let him go without claim and go do other stuff

The purpose would be that he can not as mafia change his claim later and has to dedicate himself to a role now which would be bad for him. Glitch in my first game acted similarly to him and he was talking about how he was going to claim 'even night loyal doctor'.

you quote a post that genders me correctly and then proceed to misgender me
VOTE: truth

@mod I dayvig truth

A lot of his early votes I disagreed with/were on ics

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missing my IC reveal is like, a casually very town indicative level of neglect. why are you considering a single vote on an IC scum indicative?

I said he was faking it for town points

I don't townread redtea

His superbowl push was weak

His play this game looks like his scum game here: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83367

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I said he was faking it for town points

and just... never reconsidered that anything in bugspray's iso might be earnest this game?

I don't townread redtea

ok which of bugs' early reads struck you as disagreeable in a scummy way then

His superbowl push was weak

please give me a comparably strong stance / read on superbowl.

His play this game looks like his scum game here: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83367

besides the fact it's bugspray and they're generally kinda cute/fluffy and whimsical i don't see the similarities at all. can you please explain what struck you as similar in a scum indicative way?

His reads as a whole were disagreeable, pretty much all except for redtea for me

superbowl had good content at the time that redtea was pushing him

His posts looked similar to me. You're looking at it in hindsight.

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I am quite suspicious of chkflip because Psyche said he wanted to execute him and then he died. Some people are saying this means chkflip is town as this play would be too obvious if chkflip was mafia. But I think because people will think that, it is actually the perfect play to make for him without getting any suspicion.

VOTE: chkflip

Do I claim now, or...?

Better question: when are you going to stop purposefully playing newb cards?

He's not playing anything, this is just how he is

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Yes agreed,
VOTE: Dunnstral

Agreed with

what

?

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I don't think Truth is scum though

He's just.. loopy

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*checks list*

..Looker?

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Poe off people I don't want to vote

I think I wrote Titus off too quickly in my head... it's entirely possible that she is scum

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Poe off people I don't want to vote

I think I wrote Titus off too quickly in my head... it's entirely possible that she is scum

Why did you "write me off" at all? I haven't done much because I just got here.

I'm not sure

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Does anyone feel that Dunnstral has an actual "list"?

I was looking at the vote count

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but the fact he's noped outta the thread is making me a bit lukewarm

That's not really fair if he thought he was cleared

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On dunnstral - I said I would stuff him in town and re-evaluate D2, and he's continued to come off very towny to me since then. I find myself nodding my head at each of his posts (i understand that statement is extemely memeable), as they are accurate, help move the gamestate forwards, and just make sense from a town mindset.

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I'm willing to accept that for now. What happened to your redtea read?

I don't get what you mean, did I ever have a 'redtea read'?

Dunnstral - was kinda scumreading but I'm growing lukewarm. he's not towny this game but it's also outside my expectation of Dunn's scumgame. he does not seem interested in looking good (which he is capable of doing). he seems more irritated with my OTT push than invested in rebutting them. scum before the above but not before the below I think?

Hey guys, I've just gotten lazy in this game. I hope that helps.

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Wait



viewtopic.php?t=82699&f=51&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

hhhhHHHHHHH

Dunnstral you were alive a lot longer than me in this one (also I replaced out bc personal lives are fun).

I'm crazy y/n

His posts look the same in all his games to me

I asked him about it in another game and he was resistant to providing the info, and he was town thereL

I don't understand Dunnstral's request to self-meta. When I'm scum I'm scum and when I'm town I'm town.

Your playstyle in this game is similar to our last game I saw you in, where you were mafia

Looker, you ask why I'm wondering about this, right? I can't differentiate your current play from the game you were mafia in.

What I'm saying to you is that, until you say "I've looked at games where you were town and games where you were scum, and this game most closely resembles the games wherein you were scum", I don't find your observation useful.

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That's why the rest of the folks shouldn't randomly reveal as ic

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also truth was scum, and was heavily playing into his persona from last game.

Looker, are you a power role or what? It sounded like you were planning to claim today

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Sorry, Truth, but I need another day

This made me think you were a PR

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? What are you saying in 1079

It's not related to 731

He was playing into his persona from last game by claiming vt and acting like he didn't know what he was doing

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What do you want me to do?

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You know me titus, always deadweight to the scum team

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I don't understand how osuka's excessive use of profanity makes him town.

I think you are misrepresenting something here... who said that?

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How do you define brashness, Dunnstral.

Not 'excessive use of profanity'

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Don't like the early osuka claim.
Also don't like the Looker AtE.

Lookers EoD posts tho.

VOTE: osuka E1

I ACTIVATE MY TRAP CARD! DUNNSTRAL'S ARRIVAL! WITH THIS CARD, DUNNSTRAL WILL...

He will...

Uh...

participate?

<_<

My Dunnstral townread is fading my dudes.

VOTE: Looker

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Lol this whole page is just caught scum having a goddamn meltdown

My drunk ass couldn’t even begin to fathom how big a meltdown this is, it might just be the worst I’ve ever seen. It’s kinda funny actually

Dunn just lolhammered

nice

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If that was really a hammer I didn't notice that it was. But hey, I asked him about his role, didn't I?

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Well you guys did say to "do something" and we're approaching deadline, so.

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Why am I alive?

Osuka dunn superbowl has a scum among them.

bingo

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Why am I alive?

Osuka dunn superbowl has a scum among them.

bingo

So scums in Nep/chk/Gypyx for you

no

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Why am I alive?

Osuka dunn superbowl has a scum among them.

bingo

So scums in Nep/chk/Gypyx for you

no

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idk

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It's not me, I was hoping we could keep eliminating people until we won

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limlo

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Can somebody explain to me why superbowl is suspicious

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VOTE: osuka
Even Stevens
superbowl i still wanna know your osuka read
Dunn i dont want your sheep i want your opinions

I don't really scumread him which is part of the reason I voted the other guy last time

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Did Nep claim anything about their role?

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VT

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Did Nep claim anything about their role?

I think i have found a crumb from Nep, so i'd like everyone to claim please, not like we lose anything from not doing so

(i'm VT)

So what was the crumb?

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I won't bother quoting the Truth stuff, it's pretty cut and dry with Dunnstral just either saying he isn't scum or coming up with other reasons for the "play style" as it were. These are particularly alarming to me, though:

On dunnstral - I said I would stuff him in town and re-evaluate D2, and he's continued to come off very towny to me since then. I find myself nodding my head at each of his posts (i understand that statement is extemely memeable), as they are accurate, help move the gamestate forwards, and just make sense from a town mindset.

Why post this?

Why am I alive?

Osuka dunn superbowl has a scum among them.

bingo

Then follow up later with this?

I don't get it.

899 is because the read on me in the above post is pretty bad (since I'm not really doing anything but they're reaching for reasons to townread me) but it being scum-bad wasn't clear

1345 is an unrelated post, I was insinuating Walter was left alive for their reads

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I didn't actually find any crumb, was just trying to maybe make a potential scum PR paranoiad about claming VT

So why would I kill nep?