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It may be recency bias but from what I've seen, I feel like hyperposting, provided I'm not the one doing it, has been pretty +town overall. It easily snowballs the game against the scumteam if they're not present early. Simultaneously, I'm a very patient player, and I really like to chew on things for extended periods. I also prefer more balanced voices.
Is it worse for us that we have a lukewarm start? Probably, but I'm happy to see it from the perspective of enjoyment/depth of play.-
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I have the benefit of being a little more current with Cabd's thinking/attitude. DGB's is a valid criticism but isn't particularly creative. I don't really dislike it anymore.In post 139, Syryana wrote:I like you better this time, Ruler. What is it that bugs you about 102?
No clue what makes me so shiny to anyone beyond my genuine good will and affection towards my son, petapan. To my knowledge the only experience anyone here has of me scum is from the two/three Ruler posts.-
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Vax is weird. Overly aggressive and positioning for its own sake can work if you have the right idea/it's a weak table.
I shrugged off the early disconnect but the positioning above just seems clueless. Going out of their way to show bravado and be aggressive while also being sure to hedge w/ letting us know it's a phone post.-
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I think I already answered this, but I'm a patient player overall who really likes to take their time and work through the game multiple times. I focus a lot on progressions in how I choose to evaluate players, and the more time I have, the more indepth I go on meta.In post 199, Mod Pizza wrote:Prism, how would you describe your style as a player?
As scum I'm very active and can seem aggressive, but in reality I'm generally just waiting for town to lose the game themselves while I try to deter more correct play. My words tend to be more aggressive but I am extremely, extremely safe in how I play the alignment.-
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I don't remember the 1/2 games we played very well.In post 202, Vaxkiller wrote:Maybe you just don't know me. We all have our own style.
Did the mentioning that these are phone posts come off as "hedging my reads" to you? That seems like a stretch. It was really just a comment on probably misspelling or typing or formatting.
I didn't like how self-conscious it was and felt it clashed with the more aggressive bravado you were aiming towards. If it's for the spelling, sure I guess.-
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I considered 0 or 1 being scum. 0 seemed like the worst to do that with, but 1/3 being scum it also really seemed inadvisable and scary. After thinking on this for a bit, I still think this and really like how Elements has started here.In post 180, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:only if they are actually all town-
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Can you elaborate? I think this grouping is very obviously non-arbitrary from my perspective, thought it might not be from Elements' perspective. I think even without knowing them, and only seeing this game, this holds true, though.In post 220, borkjerfkin wrote:this seems like an arbitrary grouping of people (ffery/syr/cabd) unless you're inside the meta circle-
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Three active, strong posters.In post 225, borkjerfkin wrote:
This is really the crux: curious as to why you think thisI think even without knowing them, and only seeing this game, this holds true, though.
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Menalque, I don't believe I've played with you but if you're curious as to my meta:
I can already tell you if you're expecting Dystopia/Chara's Folly Prism you're wasting your time and it won't happen.
Expect something closer to Undertale S Open or GG2.
If you're trying to scum meta me, The Thaw used a lot of my town tendencies, Owner's Market showcased my preferred style, and Miss List is a hyperaggressive variant. I don't have any recent scum games other than Flying Scumsman, which had the more patient style but I was very bored of to the point of refusing to play after Day 2.-
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That's very different than what I'm saying first off, second I haven't liked any of your posts this game to begin with starting with the hint of a townread on ffery.In post 239, borkjerfkin wrote:Come on, this game isn't exactly filled w/ shlubs and I don't feel like they've been dominating the game in any real perceivable capacity that it's too dangerous to write them all off
in any event it's a really weird reason to vote me for asking about-
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I intend to play to my full strength but I'm not going to play town dictator again. Playing town dictator is not playing to my wincon.In post 241, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:but i miss Folly Prism-
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This is very disingenuous. Don't get me wrong, I don't like you strawmanning either, but I voted you before the question we're talking about you grokking.In post 249, borkjerfkin wrote:
what are you saying, then? and how is me not grokking it scummy?In post 242, Prism wrote:That's very different than what I'm saying first off
I thought it was very strange to go out of your way to give this read as opposed to finding ways to test it or holding off entirely.In post 249, borkjerfkin wrote:
normally I'd shrug and let your "not liking my body of work" lie for the moment but I'd love to hear what you didn't like about that post in particularhint of a townread on ffery.-
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This is wrong, unless we are talking about two separate things. Please go back and review the timeline.In post 257, borkjerfkin wrote:
I mean, you revoted me in the post, and I think that has a certain implication, no?In post 253, Prism wrote:but I voted you before the question we're talking about you grokking.-
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Don't really have one, no issues to me and I'm not familiar with Syr at all so it's not really a priority.In post 265, Cabd wrote:Don't think this line of questioning is productive any more. Can you both instead unpack your syr read because I'm no longer calm about it.-
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I mean if you're town it's fine, it's not like you have to refute every opinion of your posts that I hold to succeed.In post 262, borkjerfkin wrote:
i have no idea what to say to this. i don't agreeIn post 253, Prism wrote:I thought it was very strange to go out of your way to give this read as opposed to finding ways to test it or holding off entirely.-
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So this is the reply to my vote:
This is the one where I think you characterized my point way too strongly for me to be comfortable with.In post 239, borkjerfkin wrote:Come on, this game isn't exactly filled w/ shlubs and I don't feel like they've been dominating the game in any real perceivable capacity that it's too dangerous to write them all off
in any event it's a really weird reason to vote me for asking about
I think extending my point that townreading three active, strong posters is very bold as scum. "Dominating" is a lot stronger of a word-I'm not saying they're page 5 Paragons-and I don't think this requires writing them off entirely. From a scum perspective, it means restricting your own freedom in how you interact with them immediately right off the bat, and allows their words to carry more weight. This does not mean resigning yourself to those townreads permanently permanently.-
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I mean I think bork's reaction has been awful. I don't have meta on him but he really stretched my point further to try and discredit it and seems to think that he has to actually prove me wrong rather than let an opinion sit.In post 272, Cabd wrote:Yeah it was to bork and prism. Ffery can do her own thang.-
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EBWOP so this sentence actually makes sense.In post 273, Prism wrote:I think you extended my point that townreading three active, strong posters is very bold as scum.
I have a bad habit of switching grammatical structures on the fly and not revising to make them consistent.-
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267In post 276, Cabd wrote:;+/ prism I meant your townread on syr that I wanted unpacked.
Are you confusing my discussion of Elements' reads on the syr/ffery/cabd trio with reads of my own?-
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1264 in Undertale was posted the same day I replaced out of Illicit, shortly after withdrawing a similar request I made to Isis.
Existential malaise took a toll on me and I really didn't have my heart in the game to begin with. I don't want to blame ffery, and I get why she felt that way and wanted to see that, but I absolutely despised my play in Dystopia and her encouragement absolutely backfired and I wanted nothing to do with the game at that point. When Bell refused to explain a read I was interested in or engage with me at all, I left the game entirely for 20 pages. I came back, read, and realized that at that immediate moment, I hated the game, the playerlist, and playing mafia in general. I moved to siteflake before deciding to honor my existing commitments, too late to withdraw my request in Illicit but I successfully got to Isis in time.
I don't like power roles or mechanics and prefer playing mountainous all day. My favorite role is VT.-
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Not yet my friendly little drinking bear, not yet.In post 329, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:want to be my mason lover this game?-
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I don't see why Vax, someone who has been intentionally aggressive in pushing for the sake of doing so, leaps to your defense here and defuses a similar move from Pooky.In post 362, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Oh, is it?In post 360, Prism wrote:Okay maybe Mod (? I think) was right and we should just wagon Vax this is getting pretty atrocious-
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I think that the first 4/5 pages makes this clear even without reputation, the strength of play isn't on full display but the familiarity and activity are. As I said to Bork, I don't think they're page 5 paragons but I think my point stands.In post 376, skitter30 wrote:ok but does elements know that they have this reputation even tho?
As for Bork, if you want to talk to me more on that we can. I found it incredibly bizarre to be accused of misrepping him in a dialogue where I was clarifyingmyviewpoint he was describing, along with making a simple timeline correction.-
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I disagree on literally every front there on Bork. Part of the reason why I'm not pushing harder is that I don't want to drag down the game in minutia, but I didn't like his posts before that.
For Elements, even if you're correct that my read is wrong, that's really only half the job here. Where's the other?-
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Neither you nor I liked Vax's entrance either, though you were willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for playstyle.In post 403, skitter30 wrote:their vote on vax is gross and exactly what i'd expect from scum
Vax's entrance is #121-#128. They had one more post in #149 to try a wagon vote on ffery. Elements voted them in #150.
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My point was that Vax had a similarly aggressive style, making it seem a bit contradictory to take issue with another player doing similar.In post 442, DrippingGoofball wrote:Maybe because Pooky calling another player scum for no reason and sounding very sure sounds weird?
What's your working hypothesis? I'm scum with Vax? He's protecting me from a Day 1 nonwagon? LOL
I'm also sure that these working hypotheses you have created are the only ones, that every scum motivation has an objective point. I am ready to draw on your infinite wisdom. Second one you listed happens all the time btw.-
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