Open 88 - Polygamist Mafia (Game Over) before 650

[StrangerCoug]

Hello

Let me read the thread...

[StrangerCoug]

Oh, and

unvote

if necessary.

[StrangerCoug]

First off, I didn't exactly want the massclaim, but I cannot overrule it since it's all said and done. Makes for interesting play, though.

Zoolander voting the mod wasn't good play by him/her. I'm sorry.

Minor FoS: Caboose

for waiting until page 7 to remove a random vote.

Unless you were ready to lynch Jebus and 3fj before Abel replaced in

I was.

ah, so Armix is all about lynching newbie for making a mistake based off of inexperience, and keeping this day limited to one wagon. got it.

unvote, vote:armix

Vote: Adel

for OMGUS.

[StrangerCoug]

I hope that you don't mind that I'm writng this with anger for it pains me that I see all these false arguments about the ones who Adel and I have replaced, while you weren't searching for the real scum.

I saw the reasoning as weak when I first read it, but now that you bring it up and I looked, it makes sense and armlx's vote now looks like an attempt to prevent a lover pair from speaking while the mod's out replacing one of them. Thanks.

Unvote: Adel
Vote: armlx

[StrangerCoug]

Adel: Adel hasn't really done anything scummy. Its Jebus with her plan of "random vote excluding me or my partner". And that's in my opinion crazy scummy. The chat log has confused me but it definately hasn't cleared him.

If you don't think Adel is scummy, then why are you voting him?

FoS: Empking

[StrangerCoug]

should I also include fos's?

I have no objection to it.

[StrangerCoug]

armlx, Citizen Karne, Caboose, OpposedForce and Kloud1516 were all on my wagon when Empyking placed me at lynch -1 with post 239. The next vote action after me getting placed at lynch -1 was armix's unvote at post 279, which was 36 hours later. Which one of those is supposed to be my scumbuddy?

My gut doesn't like this question, but my logic is processing it as rhetorical. It is of note, however.

[StrangerCoug]

If I were scum would a scumbuddy of mine really leave a vote on me while I was at lynch -1?

Oh, that's right. Bussing is suicide in this game.

[StrangerCoug]

And SC, you had some comment about Adel's post (289). Now that you've seen why we were asking this question, can you give an answer to it?

If Adel is scum, then I think one of his scumbuddies is the same guy that my vote's on—armlx.

[StrangerCoug]

I also believe Empking to be scum, but less so than armlx. Actually current thought, Adel, is that you're

not

scum. That's why I started my first answer with "if".

[StrangerCoug]

EBWOP: After "actually", put a comma and then the word "my".

[StrangerCoug]

Yes, L-1 isn't dangerous in this set up.

Voting for your scum partner isn't suicide especially if your partners can use that as their only defense.

Dude. Wake up. You should know by now that both of the above are false. The second one also appears to be a straw man.

Unvote: armlx
Vote: Empking

[StrangerCoug]

Please, how has L-1 been dangerous?

L-1 is always dangerous as far as I know, especially here. When someone dies, so does someone else. It pays to be on the cautious side here, you know.

How is it a straw man?

You replaced the word "bussing" with the phrase "voting for your scum partner". Yes, the latter can be argued as a dangerous move here as well, but you can random vote scum without bussing him or her, and pressure votes against scumbuddies as opposed to intentionally attempting to lynch them does not qualify as bussing in my book.

[StrangerCoug]

Alright everyone, I have meta'd Empking. He posts like this in all of his games, regardless of alignment.

Do you have evidence from completed games?

[StrangerCoug]

Alright everyone, I have meta'd Empking. He posts like this in all of his games, regardless of alignment.

Do you have evidence from completed games?

Here is one example: viewtopic.php?t=7505&postdays=0&postord ... &start=775

Looking at that game, I do see similar posts in there that he's made here, and he was town in the game you gave us. I'll go ahead and

unvote: EmpKing

and go back to a

vote: armlx

for the same reasons as last time, but I still have my doubts as to EmpKing right now.

[StrangerCoug]

unvote Empking, vote armlx

but I would rather wagon Empking

I don't think this would achieve much other than, if you are scum and Empking is town, give you an easy mislynch.

Ditto.

FoS: Adel

.

[StrangerCoug]

I'm starting to wonder about Adel. Who do you think is there scum partners if Adel is scum?

One of the groups with 1 vote on Adel.

Wake up and smell the coffee. For at least the third time, bussing is suicide here.

Confirm vote: armlx

[StrangerCoug]

I think I did mention why scum would vote for their scum pair.

I think I did mention why it is dangerous to do so, especially since all the lover pairs have been outed.

[StrangerCoug]

Besides I just checked CK. Can you explain this to me:

Alright everyone, I have meta'd Empking. He posts like this in all of his games, regardless of alignment.

Do you have evidence from completed games?

Here is one example: viewtopic.php?t=7505&postdays=0&postord ... &start=775

As you see, CK says regardless of alignment. The link shows you as townie. If this is prove for regardless of alignment, what does it make you here?

I don't like this for some reason, most likely because of a hasty generalization. I'm willing to accept that Citizen Karne couldn't find an example from a completed game of Empking doing that as scum. Remember that we are not allowed to discuss ongoing games. If CK had posted a link to a game where he did that as scum and that game was still ongoing, either he and I would be dead or the game would be over.

FoS: Mana_Ku

[StrangerCoug]

Downgrade to a

Minor FoS: Mana_Ku

then since I still think the question's a bit off.

[StrangerCoug]

Un-FoS: Mana_Ku

[StrangerCoug]

vote Adel

I am not sure of Adel's alignment, and I am leaning towards him being pro-town.

Then why did you just vote him?

[StrangerCoug]

Because it is either:

a) Allow myself to be killed as a direct result of armlx being lynched

I believe you're his lover, so defend him the best you can if that's not what you want to happen.

b) Vote Adel and tie it, so that maybe I won't die.

And stall the game?

[StrangerCoug]

I'm staying on armlx because he still hadn't realized that bussing is suicide the last time we talked about it. In addition, voting my lover without a given reason is really appreciated, and this applies to an extent to Adel as well.

@Adel: So you don't want armlx lynched. Why Citizen Karne then?

[StrangerCoug]

StrangerC gave explanations why I may not conclude from this quote, but you may. You FoS'ed me, while you also concluded from this. So, when I think that he's scum based on this it's FoS worthy, but when you believe he's town from it, it's OK? Explain this.

Your asking "If this is prove for regardless of alignment, what does it make you here?" looked like a loaded question the first time I read it. Now I understand what you said.

24 hours are up, Citizen Karne's at L-1, and I'm his lover. I believe the only other thing I can say is...

BAH!

[StrangerCoug]

No, and even if I am, scum is usually smart enough to give that answer.

[StrangerCoug]

That's not what I'm saying. You asked if I was scum. I answered no. The truth, however, is that regardless of deadline, you asked a pointless question and got an equally pointless answer.

[StrangerCoug]

Damn it. Good game, scum.