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Icon was the only one to sus geraint's opening claim, which is perhaps TMI? It didn't really make sense for scum to fake such a stance on a townie in that situation especially when everyone else was townreading geraint for it. It seemed to be for the purposes of scum theatre, which Icon/geraint engaged in a lot
Icon then allowed himself to be talked around to geraint being town after all-
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How would faking such a claim make you a scum mastermind?In post 2598, geraintm wrote:
i love how the working theory is that i am some sort of scum mastermind who faked a claim day 1, then managed to get both my partners eliminated in the first 2 days and yet slip on this :)In post 2595, Luca Blight wrote:I know you know, but in the moment such mistakes can happen
still waiting to know if our cop has cleared anyone else besides ANya.
It's not a bad play, but not exactly high level stuff either. It's something that could be true (although I've never seen a town informed of just a scum role before) but informed is probably the easiest fake claim scum can make.-
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It's because your stances are weird.In post 2600, geraintm wrote:and i love that my effort to change my playstyle, not do what i normally do in being hesitant in voting people off...has come back to people wanting to vote me off because i was hesitant to vote for people :)
i did try and change, honest, i just clearly cannot :)
You go against your principles to hard-defend george and say you won't vote him, only to suddenly hammer him when he's at E-1? That's the reason I said I was paranoid of you early D2, because I could easily see that being a scum move.-
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As gypyx mentioned it's quite possible you might have got the idea to fakeclaim informed from Icon who was planning to do something similar in another gameIn post 2604, geraintm wrote:
trying something like that is way, way beyond my abilities as scum. i am bad scum and i think really obvious to spot.In post 2602, Luca Blight wrote:
How would faking such a claim make you a scum mastermind?In post 2598, geraintm wrote:
i love how the working theory is that i am some sort of scum mastermind who faked a claim day 1, then managed to get both my partners eliminated in the first 2 days and yet slip on this :)In post 2595, Luca Blight wrote:I know you know, but in the moment such mistakes can happen
still waiting to know if our cop has cleared anyone else besides ANya.
It's not a bad play, but not exactly high level stuff either. It's something that could be true (although I've never seen a town informed of just a scum role before) but informed is probably the easiest fake claim scum can make.
Given you don't have much confidence in your general scum ability, you'd probably think 'why not? Let's give it a try'.-
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What did you mean by thisIn post 2220, geraintm wrote:sorry for being mostly absent today.
im not voting for gypyx anytime today. they;ll be found out later if it is fake.
i think i still kinda am on innocent villager myself. i've not seen nayone else in the game who i want to follow.-
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And thisIn post 2235, geraintm wrote:
yes, and if they turn out to be scum it will become more and more obvious as the game progresses. there is no need to vote Gypyx todayIn post 2221, Luca Blight wrote:
What?In post 2220, geraintm wrote:sorry for being mostly absent today.
im not voting for gypyx anytime today. they;ll be found out later if it is fake.
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Geraint has been really weird around both flipped scum players:
geraint fos'd George, then when some people voted george geraint vowed never to join the wagon because the wagon was apparently bad, even though he had no problem voting Icon despite complaining about the previous votes on him
It feels as though geraint wasn't being sincere with these stances and was instead trying to balance distancing with keeping his partners safe. I guess putting Icon to E-2 D1 was a risky move as scum, but he did so while highlighting how bad the wagon was, so it was basically a defence in a weird way.-
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You seemed to think I was town earlier in the game. The only thing you sus'd me for D2 was based on my Icon pushIn post 2651, Gypyx wrote:i honestly have no idea why Luca is town so could someone give bullet points on em'?
Can you explain your read development on me please-
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It seems strange that you'd have this mindset given we're 2/2 for limming scum so far?In post 2662, Gypyx wrote:i hoped for the sweet release of death ngl
Unless you're scum yourself, that is-
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I just don't get those views/stances from a town perspective
Like if gerant were town I'd have expected him to be stubborn about the george wagon and refuse to vote it, like he did with the gypyx wagon D2. I don't get why he randomly hammers there after saying what he said about the wagon, other than to gain a little towncred while it's still on offer-
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In post 2089, Gypyx wrote:
hey uh, i just realized but that's kinda taking stuff out of it's context there?In post 1990, Luca Blight wrote:
This almost seems like something that was meant for the scum ptIn post 1748, Iconeum wrote: If I had time i'd probably push Luca here while hiding behind wooper, but weekend vla is soonish and deadline etc
I'll take that fight tomorrow if there's a chance
it certainly doesn't seem like a townie mindset?
Gypyx, I was referring to these points aboveIn post 2091, Gypyx wrote: 0 Luca Blight - he's got good stuff (overall tone), he's got bad stuff (his PoE and what i just pointed out) so idk
How did your read on me develop after I explained 1990 in detail and pushed Icon based on it
Do you still think I'm sus for 1990?-
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Well the scum benefit in terms of defending george would be to protect his buddyIn post 2681, VP Baltar wrote:
It's a wash for me because I definitely don't see much if any scum benefit from that play eitherIn post 2680, Luca Blight wrote:I just don't get those views/stances from a town perspective
Like if gerant were town I'd have expected him to be stubborn about the george wagon and refuse to vote it, like he did with the gypyx wagon D2. I don't get why he randomly hammers there after saying what he said about the wagon, other than to gain a little towncred while it's still on offer
the benefit in terms of the hammer would be to claim some towncred, probably conscious of the fact that he would look bad for sticking his neck out for george. It makes some sense from a scum perspective imo, but very little sense from a townie one-
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I thought this was a strange response to my slight suspicion D2, and my question was never answered
In post 2010, Luca Blight wrote:
How does that confirm your claim?In post 2002, geraintm wrote:
what, even though a doctor died overnight (effectivly) confirming my claim you doubt me?In post 1994, Luca Blight wrote:Baltar and IV are very likely town
I'm actually a little less sure of geraint than I was before-
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Gypyx why did you dodge this question:
In post 2683, Luca Blight wrote:In post 2089, Gypyx wrote:
hey uh, i just realized but that's kinda taking stuff out of it's context there?In post 1990, Luca Blight wrote:
This almost seems like something that was meant for the scum ptIn post 1748, Iconeum wrote: If I had time i'd probably push Luca here while hiding behind wooper, but weekend vla is soonish and deadline etc
I'll take that fight tomorrow if there's a chance
it certainly doesn't seem like a townie mindset?
Gypyx, I was referring to these points aboveIn post 2091, Gypyx wrote: 0 Luca Blight - he's got good stuff (overall tone), he's got bad stuff (his PoE and what i just pointed out) so idk
How did your read on me develop after I explained 1990 in detail and pushed Icon based on it
Do you still think I'm sus for 1990?-
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Btw Anya you saw in the other game that I often will push a player and then switch my vote for the purposes of information/getting a better read on someone else
I pushed Outworld really hard D1 but then changed my mind and voted with him on Datisi. I then pushed Datisi really hard before town locking him etc
The only thing that gave me pause about Icon was that no-one seemed too bothered about him dying. Apart from possibly gypyx I couldn’t see another potential partner for him, but I now believe geraint fits the bill as well. IV seemed suspect for the reasons I stated so it was worth a push, and doing so helped me read him correctly in the end-
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Just do thisIn post 2715, Luca Blight wrote:Lim geraint -> gypyx -> Luca
I’m happy to take the L if those two are both Town-
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But I’m in the PoE. One of the conftowns wants my lim, and I’ve even said myself I would take the lim if geraint and gypyx flip green. I really don’t understand why you’d be suspicious of me based on me not dyingIn post 2786, VP Baltar wrote:
Luca is a discussion driver and has been able to influence the game state. That makes him more dangerous during the day if he is town.In post 2784, AliceK wrote:
Well, I take those. Why Luca should be killed? It doesn't make sense for me.In post 2782, VP Baltar wrote:We should have limed gypyx yesterday. This was the exact situation I was trying to not be in.
My gut says Alice is too naive to be gambiting here, which means it is either gypyx or we are getting wolfed by someone like Luca or Norway. The fact Luca wasn't killed last night makes me pretty suspicious.
Anya was town either way, but also a nonthreat. I would assume killing talkative town members before limlo would be a bigger priority, and yet I'm here and so is Luca.
I’m really busy and feeling turned off on Mafia atm. I’ll try and put some energy towards this soon-
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Baltar, can you elaborate on what you meant by this?In post 841, VP Baltar wrote:Given the last few pages, I'm very uncertain that George is scum. There's some lazy slumping on here happening.-
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Nvm just seen you explained it hereIn post 1020, VP Baltar wrote:
There is like universal agreement George is sscummy and he is starting to line up as the inevitable D1 yeet when he isn't even posting.In post 946, Iconeum wrote:
george is + scum at this pointIn post 841, VP Baltar wrote:Given the last few pages, I'm very uncertain that George is scum. There's some lazy slumping on here happening.
interested to see you coming to his defense here?
why uncertain?
That's way more likely a scum push than not in my experience. If scum was getting run up, I'd expect to see more friction.-
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Votes Icon here to put him to E-1. I guess as scum Baltar would probably consider that the IV lim in unlikely and so bussing is the way to go. Icon's lackadaisical attitude suggested he was at least open to being bussed.In post 2516, VP Baltar wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Iconeum
I'm going to be busy with work much of today and tomorrow. I don't think there is a world where we should yeet IV before Ico. They kind of have similar points against them around the George wagon, but IV is probably contributing more toward pushing the game forward.-
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NiceIn post 2895, VP Baltar wrote:
I have a hard time seeing this mindset from town.In post 2891, Luca Blight wrote:Norwee is obvtown btw so my vote will definitely be on Baltar,I literally spent 4 hours rereading today to double check my feelingshere and you come in with no work and say I have to be scum? That's some serious confidence.LAMISTbtw-
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