Mini Normal 2211 || Summer Meet [Endgame]

[Umlaut]

whats up who wants to cuddle and eat fruit?

I do like fruit...

VOTE: Dunnstral

(This is only about 87% random)

[Umlaut]

VOTE: umlaut

why haven't you claimed town mailman?

I was saving it for a big reveal at lylo.

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Anya was town last game so she's probably town now, that's how it works, right?

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Why do people try to theorize in normals without knowing how normals work.

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Why do people try to theorize in normals without knowing how normals work.

would you like to elaborate or do you not care enough to do anything other than post bitter one liners

I'm happy with the bitter one-liners.

(Actually I don't think Anya's setup speculation was serious but anyone discussing ideas like "maybe there's no scum PT" as if they were serious doesn't know how normals work)

I disagree with 102, btw, Anya's activity and throwing around ridiculous accusations is exactly what I expect from town!Anya in early game (to be fair I have exactly one datum backing this up). And taking 61 seriously is just absurd.

for the record, the day modifier is considered normal on MS, provided the role that it ap plies to is also considered normal.

I would be really surprised if this is true. What's your source?

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Why do people try to theorize in normals without knowing how normals work.

To be fair, a handful of us just came from a crazy normal game lol, Anya was 1 of 3 mafia doctors in that game, and the entire ending of that game was full of wild theories, and it was a normal game

I'm sorry I missed this one, I love abnormal normals.

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i like how choof and lemons are actually trying to advance the collective town info pool despite how unhelpfuil this RVS has been

I was going to ask if this was on the basis of just 95 and 98 since they were the only gamestate-advancing posts I could see by them but looking back on the thread I guess you're right that that still puts them above average.

I actually disagree with Egix in 108, Lemons' post seems like actually trying to understand and read Anya whereas Choof was just poking at me for something they would have understood already if they read the thread (and did understand a few posts later in 102)

Anya wagon is bad, I offer an alternative:

VOTE: choof

I really dislike 102, partially because they should be

voting

Anya if they suspect her and aren't already voting someone better, but mostly because the "reasons" they're giving for a scummo vibe seem less like things that a person would

actually

expect more from scum and more like things a person would

imagine

being legitimate cause for a scumread.

[Umlaut]

Enabler (with or without primary role present)

what the fuck lmao

I don't actually see how this is wtf-worthy but then I've been hanging around long enough that maybe it's just Stockholm syndrome

In short, a role is either normal or it isn't, it doesn't depend on what other roles are in the game. So sure, you can have a normal game with two Millers, a Deputy, a Cop Enabler, and no Cop. It would be a terrible game but it would satisfy the strict definition of normal.

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I dayroleblock bugspray

VOTE: umlaut/vote] i absolutely don't understand the levels of logic in that argument agasint choof and it seems like there's stairs missihng and your brain leaped the gap without notigcing

It's like a one-sentence argument, what do you not understand?

[Umlaut]

was looking for those juicy cranberry reactions i think dunnstral's was slightly town

Can you elaborate on this?

[Umlaut]

Why do people try to theorize in normals without knowing how normals work.

would you like to elaborate or do you not care enough to do anything other than post bitter one liners

I'm happy with the bitter one-liners.

(Actually I don't think Anya's setup speculation was serious but anyone discussing ideas like "maybe there's no scum PT" as if they were serious doesn't know how normals work)

I disagree with 102, btw, Anya's activity and throwing around ridiculous accusations is exactly what I expect from town!Anya in early game (to be fair I have exactly one datum backing this up). And taking 61 seriously is just absurd.

for the record, the day modifier is considered normal on MS, provided the role that it ap plies to is also considered normal.

I would be really surprised if this is true. What's your source?

welcome to the townbloc, thanks for using your brain

This is... a really weird reason to townread me

My brain doesn't get smarter when I'm town, I can use it all the time

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I really dislike 102, partially because they should be

voting

Anya if they suspect her and aren't already voting someone better, but mostly because the "reasons" they're giving for a scummo vibe seem less like things that a person would

actually

expect more from scum and more like things a person would

imagine

being legitimate cause for a scumread.

This was the run-on bugspray is talking about. Allow me to explain further:

• I don't like 102.
  
• Town!Choof should vote Anya if he actually thinks she's scummy. Choof wasn't (at that time) voting Anya. So maybe Choof isn't town!
  
• Town!Choof should have a real reason to think Anya is scummy. The reason Choof gave looks like a fake one. So maybe Choof isn't town!

Now it's more than one sentence but maybe you can follow it better!


Pedit: Anya, I meant elaborate on Dunnstral being slightly town.

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That just doesn't seem out of Dunn scum range to me, but I guess I follow the reasoning.

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Town!Choof should vote Anya if

they

actually

think

she's scummy.

EBWOP, oops

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Going back to page 9, maybe osuka's 206 isn't exactly solving the game but it seems like a natural reaction to kind of a flippant reply to me by bugspray. Also bugspray, how on earth did you actually have trouble understanding my original statement in 102 and then say 209 "makes sense"? When I vote someone and say in the same post "They are doing this thing I would not expect for town" you really need me to say explicitly that that thing is my reason for scumreading and therefore voting them?

Agreed geraintm effectively saying they aren't going to play on day 1 is bad. It's a bit brazen for scum but not unthinkably so. Also premature VT claims are gross but I need to run the numbers to see if they're actually scum-indicative.

Lemons' 244 is both informative and gamesolvey and makes me like them for town; I'm not feeling the Anya shade and it reads almost like they should be explicitly scumleaning her instead of saying she's still null, but overall I like it.

VOTE: Anya
Hahaha so much scum vibes

Not an auspicious intro

that "that "you're not even voting me" shadow casting is premature for me saying one opinion on you" is premature for me saying one opinion on you

you seem eager to blow smoke over me

Come on, this comeback is just lazy, do better.

I didn't feel like it was a genuine question. like, the posts look like "busywork" and I literally still stand by it. Ivy hasn't gotten better since I initially called them out, and all yall are just completely ignoring Ivy...

my literal next post was a list of reads, are you jsut going to ignore that?

I. WAS. CATCHING. UP.

Having caught up, does Ivy's next post affect your read at all?

(Never mind, you answer this in 304)

The only post I like from Ivy is the reads list, but it's like, I almost just forced Ivy into posting that, idk. Not a huge fan of how Ivy had no comments on the monkey's reads, but was ready to jump at something I said like "next post is my reads" like, feeling like you have tunnel vision for me after calling me town with a wrong read? idk, I could be overthinking now, might lay off the Ivy pressure for a bit to see what happens, that slot just gives me bad vibes lol and at the same time, some slots aren't really saying anything I can recall. I prefer late game. Cause at the start, we can straight up vibe, then content happens, then boom easy to find the final scum... just need to get there lol

I didn't comment on them because I didn't have much to say, i had them as town and their posts just kept being towny, do you want me to say "I Agree" to every post that looks towny?

This is relatable in a way that makes me want to townread it (if only a little); also HEM pointing it out immediately in 312 is a good look because somehow it seems like the sort of thing I would fail to notice as being towny if I were scum (I feel like that is poorly explained on my part but I don't know how to explain it better); conversely, Andante refusing to accept it as towny and even trying to argue it's somehow scummy in 316 is not so great.

Can someone tell me if it's typical for Andante to have nearly twice as many posts as anyone else in the game? In my experience that can be a stronger towntell then most people give it credit for but it depends on the player.

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VOTE: Anya
Hahaha so much scum vibes

that "that "you're not even voting me" shadow casting is premature for me saying one opinion on you" is premature for me saying one opinion on you

you seem eager to blow smoke over me

I mean, these are your lines in specific I hate. literally feels like textbook scum, feels very emotionless, trying to be "helpful" I see it all the time. You think lines like this will have people going "oh that's very pro towny" like, it feels like you are trying to coast... and I don't like it

Spoiler:

so, 4 pages already that i can safely ignore.
this is what, game 2+2+1+1?

it worked so well in my last game i'm going to do the same this one. i am VT.
i should be probably add a sarcasm tag to that

weird post

Good Post

@MOD

Is the Highlight just the biggest wagon?

for the record, the day modifier is considered normal on MS, provided the role that it ap plies to is also considered normal.

I would be really surprised if this is true. What's your source?

Modifiers which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Activated, Announcing, Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Combined, Complex, Compulsive, Disloyal, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Indecisive, Informed, Lazy, Loud, Loyal, Macho, Multitasking, Neighbor, Ninja, Non-Consecutive Night, Personal, Roaming, Simple, Weak, X-Shot, any modifier restricting to a specific set of nights (e.g. Even/Odd Night, Night Specific, Novice)
Day is not listed, so it's not inheriently normal

Enabler (with or without primary role present)

what the fuck lmao

I don't actually see how this is wtf-worthy but then I've been hanging around long enough that maybe it's just Stockholm syndrome

In short, a role is either normal or it isn't, it doesn't depend on what other roles are in the game. So sure, you can have a normal game with two Millers, a Deputy, a Cop Enabler, and no Cop. It would be a terrible game but it would satisfy the strict definition of normal.

This is making me Giggle, idk why

ahahahahahahahah what the fuck

you're ACTUALLY saying a post asking the mod a question is a scumtell? this is hilarious

I didn't feel like it was a genuine question. like, the posts look like "busywork" and I literally still stand by it. Ivy hasn't gotten better since I initially called them out, and all yall are just completely ignoring Ivy...

my literal next post was a list of reads, are you jsut going to ignore that?

I. WAS. CATCHING. UP.

The only post I like from Ivy is the reads list, but it's like, I almost just forced Ivy into posting that, idk. Not a huge fan of how Ivy had no comments on the monkey's reads, but was ready to jump at something I said like "next post is my reads" like, feeling like you have tunnel vision for me after calling me town with a wrong read? idk, I could be overthinking now, might lay off the Ivy pressure for a bit to see what happens, that slot just gives me bad vibes lol and at the same time, some slots aren't really saying anything I can recall. I prefer late game. Cause at the start, we can straight up vibe, then content happens, then boom easy to find the final scum... just need to get there lol

I didn't comment on them because I didn't have much to say, i had them as town and their posts just kept being towny, do you want me to say "I Agree" to every post that looks towny?

Lemons can be town for now

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ugh why does Safari want to quote every post I've ever pressed 'quote' on. Ignore all the quotes, that was just a one-liner

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Prodge, getting back to this tomorrow but not sure if I will before I hit the 48-hour mark

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I would be quite surprised if Andante flips scum (though I disagree pretty thorougly with her Anya read)

For now, I want everyone to declare what they're doing and what their motive is. I'll go first.

Nothing and I don't have a motive

I'm leaning town on Ivyeo for the reaction to what geraintm posted (regardless of geraintm alignment)

As for geraintm, it would have been towny if this was the first instance of them doing this, but it's not, so it isn't. They can easily be copying what they did as town, as scum here.

So when can I expect you to start doing... you know, something?

VOTE: Dunnstral

I agree with Anya's "cheap vote" characterization here. Egix, if you think Dunnstral is the most likely scum I expect you to come back and explain and to have more reason than you gave in this post.

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the dude's not in the business of finding out who scum is, and all about trying to not look like scum. also, I don't think he's ever done something about his vote on me? has he verbalized his reason on voting for me? nah dude, this guy's parking.

i will repeat, day 1 i am very, very bad at finding scum.
last time i looked though, there were 4 votes on you, so why aren't the 3 other people voting for you getting asmuch heat as i am?

Eww.

VOTE: geraintm
Why me fry me

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HEM looking better.

T3, I'm either town or I'm not, it doesn't change over the course of the game. Iif you think my posts have been towny then why does it matter whether they're recent or not?

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Eww.

Is this a policy lynch? Or you think this was a scummy reaction?

I missed this question. Yes, I think it's a scummy reaction to respond to suspicion of oneself with "but why aren't you suspicious of these other people who did something similar?" It reads like scum indignant about being accused based on what they consider insufficient evidence.

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So, T3, you townread... lack of effort?

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welcome back dolphin

I'm somewhat put out that VFP gets to be called by the actual name of the animal in their avatar, you should be calling them shark or something.

[Umlaut]

@Dunnstral

We miss you, come back.

[Umlaut]

v/la until at least Saturday

for mental health

[Umlaut]

Sort of back but it's going to be a while before I can read 20 pages and it sounds like we don't have a while

What is VC / what are leading wagons?

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Er, 12+ pages, not 20 (I don't think)

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I really can't imagine a setup where scum is informed that every single PR has a private topic. Well, I can imagine it but it would be such a terrible setup that I'm rejecting it out of hand. So HEM can't possibly be "slipping" something if it isn't actually true. I don't think we can read into that one way or the other.

VOTE: bugspray for the sake of being contrarian, on balance I have a gut feeling Dunn flips green in which case we learn pretty much nothing from his death whereas (1) I don't have a similar feeling with bugspray and (2) even if town at least they've generated enough associatives that we get usable information from the flip. I considered going back to HEM but he's towned up quite a bit IMO

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I won't actually do anything to stand in the way of a Dunn yeet other than not-vote-for-it though because I recognize we need to reach a consensus here and it's not the worst possible choice (that being probably Anya or Ivyeo imo). Also I'm off to bed in a few minutes and it's doubtful I'll be back in time for end of day so do what you will.

[Umlaut]

Sort of back but it's going to be a while before I can read 20 pages and it sounds like we don't have a while

What is VC / what are leading wagons?

The burning question right now is whether or not you think HEM scumslipped

I've failed at going to bed so I can answer this (and already did, in 1056). No, I don't think HEM slipped that every PR in the setup has a private topic, because I don't believe that's true in the first place and so HEM couldn't possibly have been pre-informed of it being true.

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I still want osuka to happen. I'm absolutely convinced that it's a fakeclaim and he's gonna flip scum anyway. VOTE: osuka
I am willing to lynch Dunnstral. I want more time to evaluate Egix. I don't think bugs is a good counterwagon.

HEM, what's changed for you here? You're explicitly attempting to gather support for Bugs over Dunnstral now.

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I really can't imagine a setup where scum is informed that every single PR has a private topic. Well, I can imagine it but it would be such a terrible setup that I'm rejecting it out of hand. So HEM can't possibly be "slipping" something if it isn't actually true. I don't think we can read into that one way or the other.

VOTE: bugspray for the sake of being contrarian, on balance I have a gut feeling Dunn flips green in which case we learn pretty much nothing from his death whereas (1) I don't have a similar feeling with bugspray and (2) even if town at least they've generated enough associatives that we get usable information from the flip. I considered going back to HEM but he's towned up quite a bit IMO

I don't think you quite understand.
Hem later tried to claim that they were responding to a post from the bottom of the previous page.

Okay, and? Even if 903

were

hypothetically responding to 901 that wouldn't be a very convincing slip.

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Okay, and? Even if 903

were

hypothetically responding to 901 that wouldn't be a very convincing slip.

Why not?

Because it's just a semantics game. "Aha, he said definitely that 'they don't' instead of saying 'no, that's not what happened' or something more general like that, this means he

knows

something about what Mafia does or doesn't know!" Assuming HEM is town he probably

should

think Mafia don't have some sort of information about PRs all having private topics just because by default there is no reason at all for such a complex proposition to be true. If anything he'd be more likely to make that sort of 'slip' as town since he wouldn't so carefully consider the implications of the precise wording he used. (Though this is immaterial because I think most likely he really was answering 899 as he said; personally I have never heard of scum 'caught' on something trying to lie outright about

the meaning of the words they wrote

as opposed to just trying to defend the actual meaning as a reasonable thing to write and mean. If 903 were really referring to 901 I would expect HEM to own up to this regardless of alignment.)

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vt

Claiming VT at this precise moment with HEM and me just starting to push a different wagon, when town might well decide it's safer to launch the VT claim than then unclaimed Bugs, seems very town to me; safer for scum to just keep their head down a little longer and see what happens than to pop up right then.

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bugspray
• skirting in the sidelines
• surprisingly consistent but opaque process
• hasn't slipped in perspective
• i don't know if i can characterize their early setup spec as PR hunting
• isn't incoherently overexplaining in their defense.
take: unsure. very unsure. dare i say with a slight town bias. i almost want to lynch this for being tough to read, but that's not how you play this game.

distancing.jpg
VOTE: hem

You can't seriously think HEM is scum after how yesterday ended.

[Umlaut]

Post 1123 hammered bugspray. As such, no further votes were counted.

final VC, Day One

Bugspray (7) [HAMMER]: Dunnstral, T3, Umlaut, Anya, humaneatingmonkey, Ivyeo, Geraintm

Dunnstral (3): VFP, Egix96, bugspray
humaneatingmonkey (2): InsidiousLemons, osuka

With 12 alive it takes 7 to eliminate or 6 to no-eliminate.

I've already explained why Dunnstral is town. Anya, HEM, and Ivy (and, I hope, myself) get full townpoints for making the Bugs launch happen at EOD. Geraintm only gets partial credit since Egix had already given intent to hammer.

If there is scum on the Bugspray wagon it is T3 or Geraintm.

Pedit

Yeah, I'll give Egix some townpoints for that.

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I'm kind of okay with just saying me-Anya-HEM-Ivy-Dunnstral-Egix is town and launching everyone else in whatever order is convenient

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Osuka, I think the thread is pretty self-explanatory on this subject.

i can vote bugs here, Umlaut. But we need 3 more.

Anya, Ivyeo, VFP, Egix96, who wants to bumrush bugspray?

Bugspray (3): Dunnstral, T3, Umlaut, (humaneatingmonkey)

If bugs isn't viable, I'll stick to Dunn

Bugspray (3): Dunnstral, T3, Umlaut, (humaneatingmonkey), (Ivyeo)
We need two more for the bumrush

HEM, what's changed for you here? You're explicitly attempting to gather support for Bugs over Dunnstral now.

I thought your vote on him makes sense that it's better to flip him because it would yield more information — information that is necessary for me because I think there's an actual scum push to force a wagon on me and I want to know if bugs/osuka/lemons is a scum team.

Bugspray (3): Dunnstral, T3, Umlaut, (humaneatingmonkey), (Ivyeo), (Anya),
ONE MORE for the bumrush.

Let's switch wagons now.
VOTE: bugspray

HEM had already said earlier (and I called him out on this) that he was more willing to launch Dunn than Bugs. Dunn was at L-1. All HEM had to do was nothing. He had

no motivation at all

to so aggressively hype a Bugs wagon when Dunn was at L-1. Except maybe in the scenario where the team is exactly {Bugs, Dunn, HEM}, but I don't believe that and I don't think you do either.

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He had

no motivation at all

EBWOP: he had no motivation

if he were scum

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I'm not sure if Lemons is scum here.

Egix / Uma / Ivy is where at least 1 scum will be.

what is this read? please explain

Well I already said that there was nothing in their ISO. The pass was being V/LA at that point.
But I don't see why any credit is given to Uma. The push comes at a safer part of the wagon, and I doubt that 4 quick votes were expected.

It's probably distancing gone wrong gone good.

Gone from "I expect one of these three to be scum" to "it's probably Umlaut" pretty quick there.

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depending on what osuka says about his night action, I think we lynch lemons > osuka > VFP > Geraintm > Ivy. Ivy might be our mole in the townbloc. If it's LYLO, I will always vote Ivy.

bugspray did the fake call-out on me when we were scum together.

I'm maybe more convinced than you that Ivy is town. If scum!Ivy raised the point yesterday about being unlikely to get a claim from Bugs it would be as an excuse not to vote there, and she didn't use it as one.

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wait did vfp really imply that someone else implied that suggesting someone actually read the thread is appeal to emotion?

lemons implied that someone implied it wtf

I wonder if Bugs got his partners confused here and the team is just {Bugs, VFP, Lemons}

[Umlaut]

EBWOP

I wonder if Bugs got

their

partners confused here

Mea culpa

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Ah I see. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. So today, you scumread Ivyeo, Umlaut and would probably vote between there — but you think he could be town and you don't want to say why?
How come you don't want to say why?

Stop role fishing.

VOTE: VFP

This reaction is phonier than the moon landing

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I don't scumread bugspray but I also didn't like Anya's vote. I think a town/scumflip would give us more info. VOTE: bug

I don't think I properly appreciated what a weird post+vote this was until gerain quoted it. But it's a really weird post+vote! Like, if you were asked to fill in the blank here:

• I don't scumread bugspray
  
• I don't like Anya's vote for bugspray
  
• So I will vote for ______

how do you ever fill that blank with "bugspray"?

I don't know what to make of this, right now I'm filing it in "weird move for town but also a weird move for scum," but I'd like it if T3 could comment on just what was going on in their head here.

People on the wagon whose votes i am not a fan of

Ivy's - their post 1028 is calling for an elimiantion between Dunn, Lemons and Me
759 was a defence of Bugspray
227 had bugspray as locktown

just makes me antsy

Okay, it might be surprising but what's the scum motivation? Why would scum!Ivy who is calling for an elimination between Dunn, Lemons and you suddenly flip around and agree to vote their buddy bugspray? It seems more like a towntell to me, I can see scum!Ivy voting Bugs if she's trying to keep up appearances but her progression doesn't match that at all.

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i do get it, or at least i get what you're going for. i believe that you didn't mix up rolestopper and roleblocker at the time of your claim, sure. what i'm saying is that i think you forgot the specific function of your night action

at the time that you outed your target

, because you had a narrative in mind that you wanted to construct -- one which incriminates hem, and which implicates me when you flip scum. convenient.

when you send in your night action, you specifically target

one person

, and yes i do find it kind of hard to believe that you would forget who that one specific person was. i think hem was what slipped out because he was on your mind, because even though he wasn't your "target",

your action was more about harming hem than protecting me.

i think town!osuka would have been markedly less likely to make this mistake.

there is never going to be a way to prove conclusively whether you would or would not have made this mistake as town. but as i've said, flipping your slot is going to give us a lot of information either way. if you flip red, great. and even if you flip green, that

still

gives us a solid lead on hem and provides us with a frame of reference for what other PRs are more or less likely to coexist in the same game.

and lastly, why does it even have to be hem who shot at me? if the aim is simply to incriminate you and kill two birds with one stone, wouldn't

any

scum seize the same opportunity?

I actually think Lemons is on to something. It seems like Osuka is caught in a contradiction here.

• He first says he "rolestopped HEM" but let's assume he really did mean to say he rolestopped Lemons.
  
• Then he says the fact that there was no kill incriminates HEM, to the point where he
  instantly
  regarded HEM as caught scum this morning and cited his action as the reason, as if it were so conclusive that no more explanation need be given
  
• And says "I rolestopped [Lemons] so that HEM couldn't kill [them]"
  
• But then he says "i didnt do it to incriminate hem. the fact that there was _no_ kill at all is what incriminates him, and that's just a consequence of me having protected [Lemons] because i thought [they] could be a target."

I can't formulate a coherent state of mind for a town!Osuka to have had last night going into the start of this day, where all of these statements can be genuine. If Osuka rolestopped Lemons out of a belief they were the likely kill choice for

any

scumteam, then he should have expected to stop a kill and should not think it implicates HEM specifically. He absolutely should not think that "at first" as he says in 1350 that he did. Conversely, if Osuka rolestopped Lemons specifically because he thought

HEM

would target them, and also thought HEM was scum, he should know that's what he did and shouldn't be making a post like 1350 in the first place, where he tries to argue Lemons was a justified rolestop regardless of the team.

I think the error of saying "I rolestopped HEM" reveals that Osuka's mind was more on HEM than it is on Lemons, and so the explanation that he did not initially set out to implicate HEM is phony.

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Anya, what do you think of VFP's case on Umlaut?

I'll let Anya answer this but I think it's generous of you to describe VFP's posts about me as a "case"

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You want me to answer whether I think VFP's case against me is good?

I don't

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It seems scum-motivated to me, particularly because VFP's reactions to questioning on that read seem more aimed at

defending their right to think I'm scum

than they do at

convincing anyone I'm scum

. Look at e.g. 1208: all the arguments there are arguments that I

could possibly

be scum

despite

how the end of yesterday went down. They're not arguments that I'm very likely, or even more likely than random, to be scum. They're particularly not arguments that would ever convince someone not already inclined to scumread me. And the repeated "Why is he town besides the Bugs vote?" is rather what-have-the-Romans-ever-done-for-us.

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Informal VC while we wait for a formal one

osuka

(3): InsidiousLemons, Anya, Ivyeo

InsidiousLemons

(2): humaneatingmonkey, T3

humaneatingmonkey

(2): osuka, VFP

T3

(1): Egix96

VFP

(1): Umlaut

Not voting

(2): geraintm, Dunnstral

[Umlaut]

Now that I know the VC I'm comfortable swapping to

VOTE: osuka

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Dunnstral, if you think Osuka is a mistake then make another suggestion.

[Umlaut]

I considered unvoting just because there's so much daylight left but I'm honestly not that fussed about this

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Obligatory bah post

Go get 'em, town!

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I voted off two scum in two days, VFP found the doctor N1 and

still

had to shoot VT-me on N2, I'm calling this game bragworthy.