Mini Normal 2211 || Summer Meet [Endgame]

[Ivyeo]

maybe they can't talk and have to use the vulnerability of public communication

nah

I can guarantee the following:
[...]

• Any PT will have
  daytalk.

Clearly they have no PT

[Ivyeo]

anyway it says any PT will have daytalk which is an interesting way of putting it

it means wolves could just have no PT and therefore no talk at all and no daytalk

i think cook would just say wolves have daytalk if it were that simple

Oh you already said this :c

[Ivyeo]

VOTE: Anya
for stealing my sentence

[Ivyeo]

VOTE: Geraintm

[Ivyeo]

so, 4 pages already that i can safely ignore.
this is what, game 2+2+1+1?

it worked so well in my last game i'm going to do the same this one. i am VT.
i should be probably add a sarcasm tag to that

weird post

Good Post

[Ivyeo]

Bug do you think that Choof and lemons are inherently towny for this?

[Ivyeo]

@MOD

Is the Highlight just the biggest wagon?

[Ivyeo]

for the record, the day modifier is considered normal on MS, provided the role that it ap plies to is also considered normal.

I would be really surprised if this is true. What's your source?

Modifiers which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Activated, Announcing, Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Combined, Complex, Compulsive, Disloyal, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Indecisive, Informed, Lazy, Loud, Loyal, Macho, Multitasking, Neighbor, Ninja, Non-Consecutive Night, Personal, Roaming, Simple, Weak, X-Shot, any modifier restricting to a specific set of nights (e.g. Even/Odd Night, Night Specific, Novice)
Day is not listed, so it's not inheriently normal

[Ivyeo]

Enabler (with or without primary role present)

what the fuck lmao

I don't actually see how this is wtf-worthy but then I've been hanging around long enough that maybe it's just Stockholm syndrome

In short, a role is either normal or it isn't, it doesn't depend on what other roles are in the game. So sure, you can have a normal game with two Millers, a Deputy, a Cop Enabler, and no Cop. It would be a terrible game but it would satisfy the strict definition of normal.

This is making me Giggle, idk why

[Ivyeo]

Why?

[Ivyeo]

there's about 0 interactions with anyone from Ivy. 1 question to someone, entire content has been a vote with no reason attached (rvs) or informative stuff. like, just look at the Ivy iso, I'm getting bad vibes from the slot. feels like scum trying to coast by

No, the vote was in direct response to the previous message where they bloody claimed VT, not just an RVS

[Ivyeo]

I mean, that's kinda just how i play? I don't want to be "making reads" or anything until I feel like there's enough substance or posts that standout to me to do so. So far all that's stood out was that bloody VT claim and Choof's posting which looks towny to me

[Ivyeo]

I mean, these are your lines in specific I hate. literally feels like textbook scum, feels very emotionless, trying to be "helpful" I see it all the time. You think lines like this will have people going "oh that's very pro towny" like, it feels like you are trying to coast... and I don't like it

Spoiler:

so, 4 pages already that i can safely ignore.
this is what, game 2+2+1+1?

it worked so well in my last game i'm going to do the same this one. i am VT.
i should be probably add a sarcasm tag to that

weird post

Good Post

I'm literally saying someone calling a post that I voted on someone for "weird" is good

[Ivyeo]

I

mean, that's kinda just how i play?

I don't want to be "making reads" or anything until I feel like there's enough substance or posts that standout to me to do so. So far all that's stood out was that bloody VT claim and Choof's posting which looks towny to me

That possibility is why I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but as it stands so far, you still don't yet seem much different from our last game.

There has barely been anything AI so far, and I've commented on the things that I've felt have been

[Ivyeo]

"What do you not understand" can atleast lead to more understanding

[Ivyeo]

"What do you not understand" can atleast lead to more understanding

yes it can

what's your point?

That wha you said didn't and was unhelpful

[Ivyeo]

There has barely been anything AI so far

you should just do some crazy shit so that we can also read you better and not have akwward andante reads

Got it
Choof and Bugspray are both Locktown for day 1, Choof's general tone and mindset is obvtown, and Bugspray has pushed back against everything I would have had I been awake.
Adante looks like a wrong towny rather than a scum
Umlaut is null
Anya is mildyl lean scum, as she isn't really contributing, and Osuka is mildly more leaning scum for being unhelpful.
No one else has left enoughj of an impression
VOTE: Osuka

[Ivyeo]

...no
let me reread that interaction t.t

[Ivyeo]

Rereading Umlaut moves up to town lean

[Ivyeo]

Bugspray still stays up there

[Ivyeo]

196 For Umlaut, I just liked it more rereading than I did the first time, adn for you it just didn't change. Mindset just seems towny idk

[Ivyeo]

I mean, these are your lines in specific I hate. literally feels like textbook scum, feels very emotionless, trying to be "helpful" I see it all the time. You think lines like this will have people going "oh that's very pro towny" like, it feels like you are trying to coast... and I don't like it

Spoiler:

so, 4 pages already that i can safely ignore.
this is what, game 2+2+1+1?

it worked so well in my last game i'm going to do the same this one. i am VT.
i should be probably add a sarcasm tag to that

weird post

Good Post

@MOD

Is the Highlight just the biggest wagon?

for the record, the day modifier is considered normal on MS, provided the role that it ap plies to is also considered normal.

I would be really surprised if this is true. What's your source?

Modifiers which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Activated, Announcing, Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Combined, Complex, Compulsive, Disloyal, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Indecisive, Informed, Lazy, Loud, Loyal, Macho, Multitasking, Neighbor, Ninja, Non-Consecutive Night, Personal, Roaming, Simple, Weak, X-Shot, any modifier restricting to a specific set of nights (e.g. Even/Odd Night, Night Specific, Novice)
Day is not listed, so it's not inheriently normal

Enabler (with or without primary role present)

what the fuck lmao

I don't actually see how this is wtf-worthy but then I've been hanging around long enough that maybe it's just Stockholm syndrome

In short, a role is either normal or it isn't, it doesn't depend on what other roles are in the game. So sure, you can have a normal game with two Millers, a Deputy, a Cop Enabler, and no Cop. It would be a terrible game but it would satisfy the strict definition of normal.

This is making me Giggle, idk why

ahahahahahahahah what the fuck

you're ACTUALLY saying a post asking the mod a question is a scumtell? this is hilarious

I didn't feel like it was a genuine question. like, the posts look like "busywork" and I literally still stand by it. Ivy hasn't gotten better since I initially called them out, and all yall are just completely ignoring Ivy...

my literal next post was a list of reads, are you jsut going to ignore that?

[Ivyeo]

For now, I want everyone to declare what they're doing and what their motive is. I'll go first.

Right now I'm trying to figure out if the push on me feels genuine or not

[Ivyeo]

The only post I like from Ivy is the reads list, but it's like, I almost just forced Ivy into posting that, idk. Not a huge fan of how Ivy had no comments on the monkey's reads, but was ready to jump at something I said like "next post is my reads" like, feeling like you have tunnel vision for me after calling me town with a wrong read? idk, I could be overthinking now, might lay off the Ivy pressure for a bit to see what happens, that slot just gives me bad vibes lol and at the same time, some slots aren't really saying anything I can recall. I prefer late game. Cause at the start, we can straight up vibe, then content happens, then boom easy to find the final scum... just need to get there lol

I didn't comment on them because I didn't have much to say, i had them as town and their posts just kept being towny, do you want me to say "I Agree" to every post that looks towny?

[Ivyeo]

@Bug where are your reads right now

[Ivyeo]

I mean, I wouldn't call her town for " i had them as town and their posts just kept being towny" like, feels like maf with an agenda to me... usually if you TR someone you work with them to find scum? not just ignore their posts

The only post I like from Ivy is the reads list, but it's like, I almost just forced Ivy into posting that, idk. Not a huge fan of how Ivy had no comments on the monkey's reads, but was ready to jump at something I said like "next post is my reads" like, feeling like you have tunnel vision for me after calling me town with a wrong read? idk, I could be overthinking now, might lay off the Ivy pressure for a bit to see what happens, that slot just gives me bad vibes lol and at the same time, some slots aren't really saying anything I can recall. I prefer late game. Cause at the start, we can straight up vibe, then content happens, then boom easy to find the final scum... just need to get there lol

I didn't comment on them because I didn't have much to say, i had them as town and their posts just kept being towny, do you want me to say "I Agree" to every post that looks towny?

idk, I mean, it feels like you're genuinely ignoring a lot of people, like, you fully believe in your TRs? that game just started... that's shouldn't be a reason to ignore what your TRs say?? (I hope this makes sense) like, just cause you outed a TR on someone, do you plan on keeping that TR all game? people can have wrong reads...

Both fair, though I *am* still reading what they say and all that, and I could change my mind later, I just had no immiediete responce to what was being said. If they say something that changes my mind or I want to go further with then I'll do that.

[Ivyeo]

For now, I want everyone to declare what they're doing and what their motive is. I'll go first.

Right now I'm trying to figure out if the push on me feels genuine or not

I thought you already stated a read on Anda though? Is something making you reconsider?

Of course I want to make sure. Even if Adante initially read town, the continued push is odd.

[Ivyeo]

For now, I want everyone to declare what they're doing and what their motive is. I'll go first.

Right now I'm trying to figure out if the push on me feels genuine or not

I thought you already stated a read on Anda though? Is something making you reconsider?

Of course I want to make sure. Even if Adante initially read town, the continued push is odd.

It's odd I push scumreads to get reactions out of them?

It's odd if the scumreads are bad. idc that you scum read me but like, analyze my content and not the things I said at the very begining

[Ivyeo]

I literally asked Bugs for reads and am waiting on a reply

[Ivyeo]

I'll speak when I have meaningful things to say, but you're forcing my hand into typing more than I'd want to by going off on me.

[Ivyeo]

oh my bad. 1 question to someone else this game... What's your stance on Anya/gerain?

Anya is fully null. They're just acting how they have elsewhere I've seen them, and we need more content if we're to sort them. Geratin seems unhelpful right now, but Idk if they're necessarily scum for it, just a mediorcore way of playing. Again, most of what I have right now is just reassuring the popular opinion, minus the fact that I still read HEM as towny. Lemon's 347 shows insight and umlaut's 346 I just sorta agree with. There's not too much else to say

[Ivyeo]

Ivyeo

(who has been on the site for 6 months longer than T3) - newbscum

I've been on the site for a while, but I also took a break for multiple months and am oplaying my fifth game, so make of that what you will.

[Ivyeo]

Ivyeo

(who has been on the site for 6 months longer than T3) - newbscum

I've been on the site for a while, but I also took a break for multiple months and am oplaying my fifth game, so make of that what you will.

Why is this necessary to bring up? Who cares how long someone has been here, you'll have reads and reasons, so regardless of experience the reasons better match the reads? This game of mafia isn't super hard to play when you're new to either...

I was responding to someone implying that I couldn't be newbscum because I had more experience than T4...

[Ivyeo]

but I also took a break for multiple months and am oplaying my fifth game, so make of that what you will.

ehhh I just hated the "but I also took a break for multiple months and am oplaying my fifth game, so make of that what you will." part lol like, "so make of that what you will" to me feels like she's trying to use lack of experience as an excuse for something, idk, I've played with a lot of "I did X so I can't be scum!!" recently, so I'm sure I'm overthinking it

This doesn't make sense for what I was responding to

[Ivyeo]

For now, I want everyone to declare what they're doing and what their motive is. I'll go first.

Nothing and I don't have a motive

I'm leaning town on Ivyeo for the reaction to what geraintm posted (regardless of geraintm alignment)

As for geraintm, it would have been towny if this was the first instance of them doing this, but it's not, so it isn't. They can easily be copying what they did as town, as scum here.

I'm not sure how to reply .
I am not sure how on earth I could not be scummy in your eyes.
I am behaving like I have done previously as town, therefore I am scum faking jt.
If I wasn't behaving like I have done previously as town, would I get called out then too?

Even here it seems like you're just a scum who knows what they do as town and is intentionally playing it. The behavior isn't towny in of itself, so doing it because you did it as town doesn't change that.

[Ivyeo]

415 was a good post. Bugsprays been moving down my TR especially as they still haven't responded to my request for reads from them

[Ivyeo]

i will also likely not be around for the next ~24 hours. super important audition today. wish me luck!

Good luck with your Audition Lemons!

[Ivyeo]

Almost half the PL does ;.;

[Ivyeo]

Fwiw @HEM these were the snippets I thought Lemons was town for before.

These posts to me don't neccesarly seem towny. They have a "trying to look productive" feel to them.

[Ivyeo]

The posts they linked

[Ivyeo]

not about you

What about then. where are you right now htis game?

[Ivyeo]

@ lemons - i have...10 nulls and 2 i don't knows? maybe human eating monkey for his fast about face on me for no good reasons is suspicious - because i didn't do anything to change their mind really.

It doesn't need to visably change his mind to be useful. You can get insight on someone without wanting to just vote them.

[Ivyeo]

gerain's 530 swayed me very slightly, but upon further reflection i really don't think it's any more likely that it's genuine than that it's just a ploy for towncred.

i find it weird that me going to someone "huh- i find your backtracking off of me suspicious" isn't genuine and is voteworthy, but when i actually claim i am town that means nothing :)

What does this post mean? this post

Irks

me and I'm not sure why

[Ivyeo]

Eww.

Is this a policy lynch? Or you think this was a scummy reaction?

I missed this question. Yes, I think it's a scummy reaction to respond to suspicion of oneself with "but why aren't you suspicious of these other people who did something similar?" It reads like scum indignant about being accused based on what they consider insufficient evidence.

Honestly I agree with this. I haven't really liked much from them this whole game.
VOTE: Gera

[Ivyeo]

--Unoffical VC--
Osuka (2): bugspray, VFP
humaneatingmonkey (2): geraintm, Anya
geraintm (3): Umlaut, InsidiousLemons, Ivyeo
Andante (1): osuka
Dunnstral (1): humaneatingmonkey,
InsidiousLemons (2): Egix96
Egix96 (0):
Bugspray (0):

[Ivyeo]

I'll try to give reads either later tonight or tomorrow IRL, I'm just kinda exhausted right now appologies.

[Ivyeo]

@cook can we get a vote count? i'm sorry to keep asking but there have only been 5 in nearly 30 pages of gameplay

Also this is exactly why I did a VC t.t

[Ivyeo]

Bugspray Osuka and Geraintin are who'd I'd be willing to vote into today.

[Ivyeo]

take: unsure with a wildcard bias. guy's a good ally if he's town. guy's a dangerous scum if he's scum. almost want to lynch just to flip this slot, but that's not how you play this game.

How would you evaluate the benefit in teh info gained by flipping the slot compared to hitting a scum today?

[Ivyeo]

Makes sense

[Ivyeo]

I've been flip flopping the twon in my head and in my vote, but I think I'm good to move here now
VOTE: Osuka

[Ivyeo]

Towniest
----
Umlaut
VFP
Anya
HEM
T3
Egix
----
Lemons
Dunn
Bugspray
Geraintm
Osuka
----
Scummiest

[Ivyeo]

holt fuck am i gonna get yeeted because i suck at life?

You're still only #3 how about you join the wagon :D

Edit: zYou're already on it t.t

[Ivyeo]

bugspray is scum. They made a similar defenseI think in electocollege mafia when they were scum.

It's also possible to genuinely be tired when scum. Reading into people who are having an irl issue at the time sets a bad precident, whilst at the same time shouldn't be seen as an absolute defense

[Ivyeo]

my process may be opaque (i couldn't possibly know because i'm not an outsider from my perspective), but inconsistent? i never said you were scum. to be clear:

i said that

if it's not tvt

, you're overwhelmingly likely to be the scum

instead of lemons

(bolded for emphasis, not in the original)

please point out where i slipped in perspective. my read on lemons has stayed relatively constant from the beginning of the game and yours is a bit vague if anything, but with this sort of push i can't imagine there isn't at least some degree of hidden motivation behind what you're doing.

The slip comes in that you're still assuming that atleast 1 is scum, which the post doesn't make clear. Even if you say you never siad they were scum, sure as hell felt like you were.

[Ivyeo]

i've got a long car jounrey tonight and unlikely to be on much tomorrow at all to warn people

what are you warning us from

it was fairly close to deadline, and if anyone was expecting me to carry on doing vote counts, then i would be posting not a lot...

but you're not warning us from lynching osuka?

i think that is 6 votes and one off elimintation

[Ivyeo]

the reverse-catchup is an interesting play from bug because it makes it substantially harder to track their process. i don't know if i like it

I'd agree, almost feels like a reason to misrepresent what is being read, even if corrected later.

[Ivyeo]

Just do Dunn with me

VOTE: Dunn
Okay.

@Ivy

- what's your thoughts on the Osuka claim and where do you think is a better option now?
Do you still think that Osuka slipped?

I still don't like the claim really, but I understand that town is not willing to exec there today. I still really don't see many of their posts from a towny perspective tbh, even the recent posts which just kinda feel like they're there and just to redirect attention. That being Said, Dunn is also in my scum pile for now so I'd also go there.

[Ivyeo]

perspective shift?

you were confident they slipped before and now it's just that you "don't see many of their posts from a towny perspective"? you were directly questioned about the supposed slip and you still didn't even mention it

Appologies, let me be more clear then.
I only can read their posts from the PoV of a scum, which woul essientally be a perspective "slip." Ig I was using hte term more liberally to describe a post that only made sense if read as if he were mafia. He went out of his way to clarify that "I never said you had to be town" whilst his posts *sure do read like it.* Their content mostly has a PoV assumed that doesn't really lead to much.

[Ivyeo]

what about osuka's posts only make sense if he's mafia? see my 843. maybe osuka's posts read like he's assuming monkey to be town to

you

, but i have yet to see a non-subjective case made for this slip/perspective shift/whatever you want to call it.

Sure it's subjective but so is everything in Mafia. His "Hypotheticals" seem to be taking a lot for granted, and they're a majority of his cases. It' like using those ifs as excuses to not have to push from his actual PoV.

[Ivyeo]

His "Hypotheticals" seem to be taking a lot for granted, and they're a majority of his cases. It' like using those ifs as excuses to not have to push from his actual PoV.

i could say the same about your overuse of the words "seem" and "feel"[/quote]
What? I'm not using that kind of language to distance myself from the reads though, that's not the same thing

[Ivyeo]

To clarify, his hypotheticals come from an entirely differnt PoV than his own, and I'm just using words to show that things are leans rather than hard reads.

[Ivyeo]

and now she doesn't even mention the slip when questioned. brownie points i guess for at least using the same fallacious reasoning as before rather than switching to a more logically sound argument, but this progression is all over the place.

Just becuase Ididn't literally use the word "slip" doesn't mean I didn't mention the same perspective that I was refering to.

[Ivyeo]

To clarify, his hypotheticals come from an entirely differnt PoV than his own, and I'm just using words to show that things are leans rather than hard reads.

dumbest post in the thread so far

speaking in hypotheticals is useful to elaborate on what i think the game state is, since i dont actually know what the fuck anyone is going to flip ahead of time. get your head out of your ass

I think you misunderstood, the use of hypotheticals isn't an issue, is a question of why. The hypothetical is assuming something that you appear to strongly disagree with. Let me ask this for clarity then, how sure are you of HEM scum?

[Ivyeo]

I'm never voting HEM here

[Ivyeo]

We're running out of time, everyone online give 3 names they'd be willing to go for today,
[Dunn, Lemons, Gera]

[Ivyeo]

ivy vines

?

[Ivyeo]

i

wonder

which post monkeyeater was replying to in his next post

what a grand mystery i wish there was an easy answer to this question

Exactly this

[Ivyeo]

ivy vines

?

just happy to see you

Oh Hi! o/

[Ivyeo]

NE > Hitting PR right?

[Ivyeo]

Umlaut, Bug, Top 3 Executions?

[Ivyeo]

VOTE: Dunn

[Ivyeo]

I get the whole "Worried it's popular" but we needed something popular enough to actually gets votes this late into deadline

[Ivyeo]

I'd be willing to vote Bug aswell

[Ivyeo]

Eigx who are you willing to lim?

[Ivyeo]

humaneatingmonkey (2): InsidiousLemons, osuka

what if we flashyeet this instead

I'd prefer to not hit town

[Ivyeo]

The reality Stone

[Ivyeo]

(Actually thoguh it took me longer than it maybe should have to release what the fuck that was trying to say)

[Ivyeo]

VOTE: Bugspray

[Ivyeo]

bugspray, wake up and claim

That's my only issue with this plan... I don't think we're getting one:
And if we do and don't want to exec it we won't really have time to switch

[Ivyeo]

New Read list:
----
Anya
HEM
Umlaut
VFP
T3
----Egix
Geratin
Dunn
Osuka
Lemons
----
Scummiest

[Ivyeo]

VOTE: bugspray

Just making sure it's a real maj

What does this mean btw?

[Ivyeo]

VOTE: Lemons

[Ivyeo]

Th Vc is blank for me t.t

[Ivyeo]

bugspray
• skirting in the sidelines
• surprisingly consistent but opaque process
• hasn't slipped in perspective
• i don't know if i can characterize their early setup spec as PR hunting
• isn't incoherently overexplaining in their defense.
take: unsure. very unsure. dare i say with a slight town bias. i almost want to lynch this for being tough to read, but that's not how you play this game.

distancing.jpg
VOTE: hem

You can't seriously think HEM is scum after how yesterday ended.

100% this, HEM as scum just pushes DUnn over

[Ivyeo]

in that logic, Umlaut, Egix is town here for allowing bugs wagon to happen. he didn't push the "bugs is unclaimed!" defense. thoughts?

Less on Egix cause they we're on Wagon, but they certainly bought town passes from me for a day or two

[Ivyeo]

Post 1123 hammered bugspray. As such, no further votes were counted.

final VC, Day One

Bugspray (7) [HAMMER]: Dunnstral, T3, Umlaut, Anya, humaneatingmonkey, Ivyeo, Geraintm

Dunnstral (3): VFP, Egix96, bugspray
humaneatingmonkey (2): InsidiousLemons, osuka

With 12 alive it takes 7 to eliminate or 6 to no-eliminate.

I've already explained why Dunnstral is town. Anya, HEM, and Ivy (and, I hope, myself) get full townpoints for making the Bugs launch happen at EOD. Geraintm only gets partial credit since Egix had already given intent to hammer.

If there is scum on the Bugspray wagon it is T3 or Geraintm.

Pedit

Yeah, I'll give Egix some townpoints for that.

Exactkym I'm fairly certain there is no Busser, 1 at most

[Ivyeo]

I'm not sure if Lemons is scum here.

Egix / Uma / Ivy is where at least 1 scum will be.

Why...?

[Ivyeo]

what is this read? please explain

Well I already said that there was nothing in their ISO. The pass was being V/LA at that point.
But I don't see why any credit is given to Uma. The push comes at a safer part of the wagon, and I doubt that 4 quick votes were expected.

It's probably distancing gone wrong gone good.

Why am I in that list??

[Ivyeo]

Anya what do you think

that's half the reason i'm voting osuka tbh lemons entrance to the stage today is really good and makes some sense while osuka is statically pushing you like he's an electrician with no other thoughts

if you're me and you rolestopped hem, that vote makes much more sense

hem gets rid of lemons here to make me look bad and gets rid of two people at once, including a PR. he can't kill me lest he implicate himself, so he kills lemons instead and goes "how did osuka know that flip was green"

i kinda sorta have a soft clear on lemons unless there's some other protective role or roleblocker that's unclaimed. if that's the case, i might have this all wrong but please please please don't claim

So Lemons was the protect? just to be absolutely clear?

[Ivyeo]

With how many people suspect Osuka, and with them claiming a protect, their flip is no only likely scum, but also gives us valuable info

[Ivyeo]

VOTE: Osuka

[Ivyeo]

VFP to me feels like they're trying to get ready for later executions that may end up hitting a towny, rather than actively looking for scum in the moment

[Ivyeo]

Ivy's vote, late on when it was clear momentum for Bug was there.
(snip)
Ivy's - their post 1028 is calling for an elimiantion between Dunn, Lemons and Me
759 was a defence of Bugspray
227 had bugspray as locktown

This ignores the fact that when it was brought up, I said that I would be in favor of a Bugs elim, but was keeping my vote because it was near deadline. Of course I'm going to wait until it's clear my vote isn't splitting town before moving it.
(Bugs was also on the scum side of my readslist fwiw)

[Ivyeo]

e-2

[Ivyeo]

@Geratin thoughts on my explaination of the vote?

[Ivyeo]

I don't think we were going to be able to change course really if they were town, and if they're scum then we shouldn't dwell on it ethier.

[Ivyeo]

Dunnstral was one of the original bugspray pushers and thescum prs seems pretty powerful so I think there's only 1 scum left.

I'd agree with the second point here, and that does give me stop. I think the first part is a good point aswell. Looking back at his ISO when he was pushed he made little attempts to defend himself, just claiming VT at e-1, hius lack of self preservation makes me lean him more toward town for now.

'em... hmmmm. h

em

:O You've cracked the code

[Ivyeo]

didn't he claim that after lemons was pushing him and was a popular wagon though

He also reversed and did the claim weird so eh

[Ivyeo]

Bandwagoning
VOTE: VFP

[Ivyeo]

Hello! I'm HEM's Partner, shall I share the crumbs he left?

[Ivyeo]

Good morning

Will Lynch Today
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bugspray
Egix96

Really Not Sure About These Slots
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osuka
Dunnstral
InsidiousLemons

Won't Lynch Today
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geraintm
Umlaut
Andante VFP
T3
Anya

I just have a heavy workday today, so I'll come back in 12 hours or in 24 hours to explain this. We need to be choosing between two candidates now. UNVOTE:

I was intentionally left out of this readlist, note that he's near the top of all of my readlists and we're always in each others town piles

I've hard defended and called HEM towny out of no where, such as 94 and super overtly in 1026

[Ivyeo]

He mentioned voting me a LYLO in order to make it not absolutely certain to the scum we were masons, bc he was pretty sure they knew already and just wanted to cause doubt with who it was with

[Ivyeo]

DOCTOR?

WHAT

[Ivyeo]

I guess it makes sense given Osuka couldn't stop the NK but *what* we were so worried that while time

[Ivyeo]

Ivyeo and I were saying our heartfelt goodbyes because I masonslipped hard.

We did it twice and looked like absolute fools when we lived both times

[Ivyeo]

Doesn't matter; will lovingly say my goodbyes every time.

<3

[Ivyeo]

I just went to check Post 0 and it's like, empty :c

[Ivyeo]

GGs everyone, shame about the misgame though :/
Also fine with the Mason thread being public, as I said in it

[Ivyeo]

Was Mason PT ever released?