mini normal 2226; who won

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Not_Mafia]

UNVOTE:
I still am on board with eliminating Umlaut but I think we should wait for NM to post before putting him back to E-1

God damn it, how dare you

[Not_Mafia]

We could always assist by eliminating you

[Not_Mafia]

We could always assist by eliminating you

Would prefer to be night killed, thank you

That, we can do

[Not_Mafia]

FUCK!

I can't believe I just scumslipped like that. This is so embarrassing.

[Not_Mafia]

who is "we"?

Me and the rest of the scumteam

[Not_Mafia]

OH MY GOD!

I can't believe I just did it again

[Not_Mafia]

okay NM is probably town

Everyone is

probably

town

[Not_Mafia]

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to counter the effect of my replacement on scumteam plans and to be fair to them, i'm going to not tryhard - which will have the great side effect of no toxicity from me ... win win (:<

We are grateful

[Not_Mafia]

BOLLOCKS!

I did it 3 times

[Not_Mafia]

gifs are scummy.,.. nyucky!

actuallly on second thought - gifs can be towny but not animal gifs

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What if there's just 3 mafia neighbours and they have 2 PTs and it's just mod wifom

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If there was a way to out scum just from this set-up spec it wouldn't have passed review, so it either gives info to the scumteam or it's just mod trolling

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I'm gonna go shower now after making a serious post

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Lock me up and throw away the key

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Why not?

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Good point

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VOTE: Umlaut

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Hey Koba, vote Chaos

[Not_Mafia]

Math, vote chaos

[Not_Mafia]

Titus revote Chaos

[Not_Mafia]

Chaos vote yourself

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Who's on E-1?

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What's happening?

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VT

[Not_Mafia]

I think there's a scum in the PR claims and I still want to elim Omega, he might even be a mafia gunsmith, I can't see reviewers giving this the greenlight, there's way too many interactions that can snowball in favour for town, as shown here. This is clearly meant to be a wifom heavy set-up and Omega as mafia gunsmith fits in with that.

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I think the role is there mostly for wifom and to give scum a plausible fake claim, I wasn't around for day 1 and the first umlaut run-up, was he suspected day 1?

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I guess it's better to elim outside the PR claims today but something just seems way too off and convenient with Omega, I don't like that two of the PR claims being clear are tied to him being town

[Not_Mafia]

The point is the town roles synergise way too much against a mafia that is fractured and underpowered

[Not_Mafia]

Cool, then keep talking about setup spec and why this isn't balanced for the next 10 pages, should be super productive.

I'll be over here voting Luke trying to actually win the game, and then you can bitch to mastina post-game.

Sounds like someone wants us to avoid questioning the set-up

[Not_Mafia]

Datisi, is your claim real?

[Not_Mafia]

Datisi, is your claim real?

[Not_Mafia]

@n_m

and yes, i'm not gambiting for shits. ask koba what happened last time i did that.

You're a full, ungated Traffic Analyst?

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b) titus to have somehow blocked me despite being loyal

i'm not 100% on this since you apparently caught the crumbs that said she blocked you, so of course you're gonna claim no result

and math, that's not what autowin means >_>

pedit: yes, full ungated traffic analyst, are you going anywhere with this?

Because I'm an even night Traffic Analyst

[Not_Mafia]

Because I'm an even night Traffic Analyst

>_>

and you claimed vt because...?

is this a desperate traitor play or is n_m trolling

i've never seen him gamethrow like this as town, so

Because I knew there was bullshit in the PR claims and wanted to see what scum would make up if they felt like they were conf townand I wanted another result before I outed.

I was on Alchemist N2.

I crumbed here

I think there's a scum in the PR claims and I still want to elim Omega, he might even be a mafia gunsmith, I can't see reviewers giving this the

greenlight

, there's way too many interactions that can snowball in favour for town, as shown here. This is clearly meant to be a wifom heavy set-up and Omega as mafia gunsmith fits in with that.

I don't even know if Datisi is scum here, I'm just confused by this whole set-up

[Not_Mafia]

Maybe we're part of some NRG experiment or something

[Not_Mafia]

you crumbed the green light on alchemist *after* he got yeeted?

Green light just refers to traffic lights in general, hence traffic analyst. It wasn't referring to my result and I was not paying attention on day 3

[Not_Mafia]

I only bothered to crumb when the PR claims and set-up spec became front and centre, it piqued my interest, before that I didn't give even a marginal fuck about this game

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: chaos

Traffic analysts make more sense to me then a gunsmith, given then set up info.

And, I have been scum reading chaos all game, and only tabled it because of the claim, and now there are too many claims.

And, like math said, even a town flip would confirm a lot of people

Plus his ability is functionally useless, so we are not actually losing a functioning pr this way.

Said Lukewarm scummily.

Said ChaosOmega scummily

[Not_Mafia]

I want a treble vote

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you mean, when deciding to vote between the person that pushed a guilty on scum on d2 and a person that's been doing jack shit, claimed vt in mass and then changed claim and claimed to have an inno on a person he didn't try to save from a misyeet, i'm actually thinking about which kne should be voted for? damn, you got me, obvscum right here.

Who else but Not_Mafia?

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Let's just elim chaos cos he's the scummiest

[Not_Mafia]

You’ve posted that one gif like thrice now >:/

[Not_Mafia]

I've lost track of anything that's even happening at this point and I'm just ignoring all the claims and X can only be scum with Y on months with 31 days if a full moon falls in it stuff, koba and Datisi seem town, chaos seems scum, AriwhateverIcan'tbearsedtocommittheusernametomemory is active lurking, I can't remember anything Titus has said the whole game, I don't know how to read Gamma anymore, Math is just posting the ramblings of a madman, looks like something someone would write on the walls of a dungeon in their own blood

[Not_Mafia]

Who did I miss?

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I don't have a bathtub

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I don't know what to say about you to be honest, sorry Luke

[Not_Mafia]

I'm the only troll around here

[Not_Mafia]

im gay

same

same

same

[Not_Mafia]

I’m town here, at least give me tonight to get a shot off, it’s possible (and I suspect) both scum are in a neighbourhood so I can potentially get a stone cold guilty and scum are not going to shoot me for all the tea in China

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This has probably been mentioned but what if we have a traitor and a group scum neighbouriser and the no kill was the last group scum using their neighbouriser?

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tbh I still like the NM forgot to submit a kill theory better

What do you take me for?

[Not_Mafia]

Why has the Chaos wagon died?

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if NM agrees to investigate Chaos

I want to eliminate chaos

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tbh I'm kinda just imagining how much NM must be suffering because he hates neighborhood spec

I don’t mind it here cos it’s been implemented in an interesting, if seemingly broken, way. I just hate the arbitrary, here’s 3 players, one of them is scum. Keep that to micro themes

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I think its just that a good portion of this group has been solved in terms of alignment telling in the lategame and thats prob why it feels like an egregiously OP setup to a scum :3

what are your reads, ignoring mech?

all my reads ignore mech - or rather use mech as a supporting argument in terms of how one utilized their role with a town mindset.

I already claimed this but

datisi - titus - gamma - chaos -> pretty much conftown IMO

ari -> towny, but no holistic reason to townread. but i still think town based on gamestate.

lukewarm -> null as hell lol i cant read this shit but they've risen above scumread based on like how i think i see their thought process working here, i still cant understand this slot

math + NM is the scum team to me IMO based on how they treated eachother and umlaut slot interactions, NM scum through PoE and math through how they are agenda pushing for people who are objectively town while refusing to provide any reasoning as well as lacking the fire that town math has. i think they're in lolcat mode in all honesty beacuse they're traitor and i think limming them first is better on the off chance NM is town and i dont wanna deal with that universe without first getting scum math out of the way.

I'm town though

[Not_Mafia]

Whatever I will check chaos if we don't eliminate him

[Not_Mafia]

uhhhh my vote was hammer.

How dare you take my hammer

[Not_Mafia]

Chaos can't communicate.

[Not_Mafia]

Spoiler: For Datisi

I think the way Mathblade defended NM yesterday points to NM being the last scum.


VOTE: Not Mafia

I would have been relentlessly bussing Mathblade yesterday if we were scum together

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Spoiler: For Datisi

I think the way Mathblade defended NM yesterday points to NM being the last scum.


VOTE: Not Mafia

Like if were scum what was our plan? Get one miselim, then Mathblade gets almost certainly gets eliminated and then what? If anything scum is in the people who were stickier on Mathblade and light pushing him.

[Not_Mafia]

right, so n_m either guessed correctly what to claim, or there's something fucky happening. am i right to be getting worried that something fucky is happening?

for the record, i also got a chaos cannot communicate.

Info at the start said only 3 people have access to a PT, and no one claimed being neighborized, so that was the only thing he could claim.

No Result would have been a lot easier to claim, even if Titus jailed someone else, we were talking about a scum blocker of some sort being in the game yesterday

[Not_Mafia]

What about a JoaT with a Doctor in it, also,

choas

claims is key there

[Not_Mafia]

would also have to be multitasking. which, uh, i'm not sure if there's point in discussing this purely hypothetical scenario considering it didn't happen, and i for one was very much looking forward to this thread *not* being drowned in repeated mathematical models on why the game is what it is.

Well you see Datisi, If I was blocked that would mean there was 89.1% chance there would be two mech guilties on scum n2

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Chaos --> Aristeia -->Gamma --> Lukewarm wins the game but we have to stop another kill somehow

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VOTE: Not_Mafia
Bad play dude

Why? And bad play or scum

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Also Chaos is town from how hard Math was pushing for Chaos lim

Scum were distancing yesterday since they knew it was going to be Math eliminated, I would have been hardcore bussing Math if I were scum

[Not_Mafia]

It's between Chaos, Aristeia and Lukewarm

[Not_Mafia]

Go Chaos then Aristeia

[Not_Mafia]

Okay well I was town

[Not_Mafia]

What were you informed of NM?

INFORMED: You know there is a town player Informed of the number of mafia guns in the game.

[Not_Mafia]

oh wait this game is over

well good thing i didn't write out this one post i had in mind where i was gonna say that n_m is Town, Actually and that we should yeet someone else today

God damn quickhammers

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ChaosOmega: Town: Informed Gunsmith
Datisi: Town Traffic Analyst
Gamma Emerald: Town Two-Shot Rolecop

Both Datisi and GT are alignment cops because of Chaos.

You forgot about me being an even night traffic analyst

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I was already setting it up before you claimed and we were in dire straits anyway so it was just a hail mary

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VOTE: Alch

Why not? Then I can catch up overnight and see if I find any scum in Titus/Gamma/Chaos.

This is pretty much where I am at.

Playing elim in the PoE til the game is over. Unless someone has a specific question ciao for now.

No reason to create more bloat for me to add to tonight’s catch up

Like I set this up to where NM didn't have to read...Titus was first in the list of three. Kill Titus.

*cries in sad*

I forgot I was scum

[Not_Mafia]

I'm not owed an apology, I forgot to kill