also this was your order before, and ari has been townreading you for much longer than just today, so...?
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I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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it's not "someone", it's not "halfway decent", and you're still not saying why it is scummy. i get it's not fun to read. i'm not even saying it's townie because frankly i wouldn't have any moral problems in attempting to fake a meltdown if i thought it would help me. but you're not saying *why* it makes me *scum*.
i have no memory of you saying that, especially if it was early in the game. contrary to my title, i don't actually remember every single post made in the games i played in.
pedit: this is re 1707I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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In post 1710, MargotRosa wrote:Unless you mean explain why your posting has been a bad look?
that is what i was asking, yes. that post doesn't say much else, other than you apparently thinking ari wouldn't be townreading you as scum, which I don't understand atm but as i am literally in bed and about to sleep, that fact checking will have to wait.In post 1711, MargotRosa wrote:In which case I suggest getting an ounce of perspective. I have never flipped so hard on another person in my life
i can't get any perspective because i can only see the game through my own eyes. and what i see is a shitty case from a conftown who's already been shown to not easily change her mind. why does freaking out make me scum. is it being survivalistic? do you think scum!me is able to be so calm throughout the whole game but unable to keep my shit because of one case? like, seriously, you are still not explaining shit on why my behaviour is scummy to you.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i wouldn't have been angry if the scumread made sense and wasn't coming from conftown, why is that so difficult to understand??In post 1713, Aristeia wrote:because you frankly don't deserve to be townread so it doesn't make sense for you to be this angry at a scumread.
i'm partly rl-challenged and partly this game feels like a chore. day 3 was difficult bc everyone ended up focusing on gamma and i felt it was wrong but I didn't have enough conviction or good enough reads to push elsewhere so here we are.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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heaven fucking help me.In post 1716, MargotRosa wrote:SSBM's post on you was particularly terrifying
that imagining of datisi/salsa is especially unmemorable considering you said absolutely nothing about it. i'll go through whatever was your read on ari tomorrow. logging off for real.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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why?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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or like better q, what happened from last night to now that you post that?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i was here until 1 am yesterday and because of that i slept only 6 hours so can you not?
i'm here as much as time and brain allows. I won't lie and say it's town! indicative for me because obviously it's not but we just had a game where i was a town lurksack so i'm kinda ??? at you making it out to be a definitely a scum!me thing?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i plan in actually rereading day 1 (at least the more interesting / relevant parts) once i get home today, which should be much much earlier than yesterday. you'll have to wait for that, i'm currently on my way to my morning lectures.
my issue is that i feel some level of confidence that there can't be that much town power left (because we already have 3 ic's practically) and if you're telling the truth then we have a decent bit more than that.
something i wanted to ask of you anyway, you called kyouko's case a bit decent or something like that. what about it do you find decent? what about my response to it doesn't sit well with you?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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also, when you presented your salsa/datisi take earlier in the game, what were you actually thinking about it?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i'm aware on how it *can* come from scum. a lot of my posts (and everyone else's posts) *can* come from scum. i'm asking why is it scum indicative. because if you're calling me scum for it, you're saying you think that it's reasonably more likely to come from scum than from town. but i'm not seeing that, all i'm seeing is a broken record of "you look bad" without people taking into consideration whether town can also react like that.In post 1726, Salsabil Faria wrote:@Datisi, your over reaction can point towards for scum!you also and even literally: conftownssbmmakes a case about scum!you ➤ some of the palyers are listening to the conftown ➤ the player whom scum!you can pocket so easily also reconsidering
➤ game is getting out of your hand ➤ thus the overreaction/nervousness/AtE whatever it is.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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how is that relevant? do you mean that just because scum!you didn't decide to push me in that one game, that scum!you would never push me? like i'm not accepting that as a valid reason to townread you because frankly that borders a trust tellIn post 1738, Aristeia wrote:
Ok and in that game I was scum and you were an easy target and did I try to kill you at all?In post 1733, Datisi wrote:i was here until 1 am yesterday and because of that i slept only 6 hours so can you not?
i'm here as much as time and brain allows. I won't lie and say it's town! indicative for me because obviously it's not but we just had a game where i was a town lurksack so i'm kinda ??? at you making it out to be a definitely a scum!me thing?
I didn't try to harm a single hair on your head!!
Like it's just weird I make one comment about possibly thinking you might be scum and you automatically go to "Ari must be a bad person!!!"
like my point in bringing that up was that you have seen town!me play like this so purely calling it out as scummy is weird to me?
i've said why i thought you attacking me earlier was scummy. i've said what about your play so far i thought of as scummy. that comment was part of it but not all.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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?In post 1743, Enchant wrote:It's also looks bad because of potential combo.
salsa's behaviour is definitely weird, and i'm puzzled by the "pls don't kill me yet, i need to say something... ok i'm self voting gl town" and i'm hoping she comes back and actually contributes because at some point the only thing we can conclude is antispew, but we've been going down the poe and we have two green flips and i'm anxious.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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why not? if you see the tides are turning against me and knowing that i'm generally a difficult misyeet, why do you think town!me wouldn't have that thought?In post 1746, Aristeia wrote:im saying i dont believe town you thinks scum me will push you and jump to that conclusion.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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one person who is a conftown and who people are much more likely to listen to
then you add to it and you're generally townread and that's already 2/4 needed
why do you think it's apparently impossible for town!me to see your comments there as helping kyouko in her push on me in a malicious way?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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In post 1656, Aristeia wrote:im honestly very scared that kyouko is right
yeah, this really did give a vibe of "I don't want to vote for datisi".In post 1657, Aristeia wrote:i would like to sheep what enchant/kyouko think because I know I can't trust myself to be objective about DatisiI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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there's a difference between "i am worried about datisi" and "i am worried about datisi, so i'm going to claim being unable to read him and say that i will just sheep the ic's on him right after one of the ic's said she thinks he's scum and voted him"In post 1756, Aristeia wrote:I guess I have hope you would only be this way to me if you were mafia because if you were town you would realize I am worried.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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because you quite literally said so? if there is another interpretation of this post, please enlighten me, because that is what i got from itIn post 1657, Aristeia wrote:i would like to sheep what enchant/kyouko think because I know I can't trust myself to be objective about DatisiI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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what are you even saying? how is scum!me taking the benefit of the situation here? do you have any clue how easy it would've been for me to go "ye salsa is scummy that selfvote is bad lol let's vote her"? like genuinely this doesn't make any sense?In post 1761, Salsabil Faria wrote:I'm contributing Datisi, I even proposed to vote myself out because clearly scum will take the benefit of the situation and it seems like they already started. I'm calling it: it's you and CO, the other two seems unlikely to be partnered with you.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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???In post 1761, Salsabil Faria wrote:Don't remember which player (they were in my early newbie game and an experienced player) but they said (not exactly like this) if you can't think of anything scummy about anyone, then they're likely to be scum.
you spent the past few posts explaining how something i told you earlier in the gane was attacking you and how my reaction to the case was scummy, and now you're saying this?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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yes, i'm questioning people who are claiming my reaction is scummy. i said it was *not townie*. it's not town!indicative. that doesn't mean it's scum!indicative. if you're claiming i'm scum for it, you obviously think it's scum!indicative, and i want actual reasoning for why something comes from scum but not for town rather than "hurr durr reaction bad"
i don't care about you calling out ari earlier, you're calling me out now, and i'm making you take a solid stance behind the things you're pushingI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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you're claiming i'm taking advantage of the situation of you voting yourself and whatever. i'm asking how am i apparently taking advantage of that. you're dodging the question. like, genuinely asking, what do you think scum!me was trying to achieve there?In post 1765, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 1762, Datisi wrote:
what are you even saying? how is scum!me taking the benefit of the situation here? do you have any clue how easy it would've been for me to go "ye salsa is scummy that selfvote is bad lol let's vote her"? like genuinely this doesn't make any sense?In post 1761, Salsabil Faria wrote:I'm contributing Datisi, I even proposed to vote myself out because clearly scum will take the benefit of the situation and it seems like they already started. I'm calling it: it's you and CO, the other two seems unlikely to be partnered with you.Did you take an oath anywhere that scum!you can't use wifom ever or make any mistake or something??I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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holy hellIn post 1769, Salsabil Faria wrote:(like your bad reaction CAN'T BE CONSIDERED as scum indicative by others where YOU LITERALLY SAID IT DOESN’T NECESSARILY TOWN INDICATIVE)
i said it's not town indicative
but if you're claiming it's scum indicative, you need to give actual fucking arguments WHY it doesn't come from town and why it's scummy
not town indicative =/= scum indicative
what have i refused to answer. i said i wasn't ready to give out a solve as there are things i want to reread before i do that and answers i want to hear before i decide.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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or, OR, i'm not voting you because i'm town and i am unsure if just plowing through the poe is the right thing to do here since that's gotten us 2 green flips so far, but you're attacking me with some awful arguments that i have to defend against!
that explanation for what "scum me is doing" is incredibly weak and non specific? can you go into detail about what you thought there?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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yes???? it's called "non alignment indicative"????????In post 1774, Salsabil Faria wrote:If something isn’t town indicative then it's by default scum indicative or vice versa??? I never heard about null indicative term before unless that's the case here?
like if i said "me typing in lowercase isn't town!indicative for me" (because i type in all lowercase every game regardless of my alignment) and then you said "so you typing in lowercase must be scum!indicative!" taht would be wrong? it's nai
i understand how my actions CAN come from scum
but the issue is if you want to claim they're scum indicative for me, not only do you have to explain why they CAN come from scum, you also need to show why they DON'T come from town
because if something can easily come from both town and scum (like for example, typing in all lowercase) it's worthless as a read
you've shown why it can be something to come from scum but you haven't shown why it's something that can't / isn't likely to come from townI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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sorry, i have no clue what you're trying to say here or what you think this proves.In post 1775, Salsabil Faria wrote:You are on my ass from D1, if people literally going against me by agreeing with you, I would have literally eliminated in D1 and you know that don't you?
and what mistake am i making? cut the shit with revealing it post game.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i've been saying it's not town indicative for like 5 years but i'm not about to call myself scum so what the fuck did you think i was saying other than that it's nai lmfao???In post 1778, Salsabil Faria wrote:???????????
It's NAI for you but you don't have any interest to say that before??
Overreaction itself doesn’t necessarily town indicative or scum indicative but you make it like this: I CAN'T BE REACTED LIKE THIS AS SCUM ⇨this is what I find scummy.
also can you rephrase the last part, i don't get itI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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you could answer both questions in that quote, you know...In post 1779, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 1777, Datisi wrote:
sorry, i have no clue what you're trying to say here or what you think this proves.In post 1775, Salsabil Faria wrote:You are on my ass from D1, if people literally going against me by agreeing with you, I would have literally eliminated in D1 and you know that don't you?
and what mistake am i making? cut the shit with revealing it post game.Why I point out your mistake when I'm considering you as scum??
so that you can try to convince other people of me being scum and so that i can see whether you're genuinely thinking about the game and you think you found a mistake or if you're scum bullshitting and i should yeet you into the sun?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i was saying it's not town!indicative. but i'm not calling myself scum. therefore i'm claiming it's nai. holy shit.In post 1785, Salsabil Faria wrote:Dude, I've literally completed 1 year here a few days ago + I only played 1/2 games with you before this one? + I don’t stalk you so I can't know what is town, scum or nonalignment indicative for you.
From what you posted after being called out for the overreaction, it seems like you're telling that scum!you can never overreact the way you did, so that's literally and only town indicative and nothing else.
anyway. i ask margot what's she liked about the kyouko case and what wasn't addressed in my response? she's gone
i point out aristeia quite literally said the thing she claimed i was interpreting? she's also gone
salsa claims i'm taking advantage of the situation but only gives a weaksauce nonspecific response as to what scum!me was apparently doing there and is calling me out for secret mistakes she doesn't wanna show
y'all see why i'm frustrated with this game?
kyouko, if chaos flips red, how sure are you salsa is cleared from chaos's push there? do you think the same would apply for aristeia?
also frankly i am a tiny bit annoyed you consider me the most obvious chaos partner for "not having meaningful interaction with him" when scum!me would've been yelling at him in the scum pt to join in on trying to murder me so that he doesn't stand out and so that we end up looking unaligned later on in case i actually flip. but i understand there's no way for me to actually prove what i'm saying here and i will instead accept the murder if he flips red and then drop one "i told you so" when i enter the dead thread.
in favour of chaos claiming, if anything because i want claims to happen and because i'm lowkey hoping that he claims a protective / blocker who did something last night and that makes us successfully force a massclaim because i am still skeptical of the confirmed + claimed amount of town power here. i really *want* to say whatever the fuck scum!margot is doing here mech-wise is outside general scumranges but i've seen scum bullshit via mech and i know she's generally ballsy scum so idk.
maybe i'll bother reading some of this game tomorrow.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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okay, if some part of you still thinks i'm town, who is scum then?In post 1792, Aristeia wrote:In post 1755, Aristeia wrote:In post 1662, Aristeia wrote:I am not going to vote for you because I can't do that to you and some part of me still thinks you are town.
I am town
If you are mafia there are 4 other townies who can vote for you.
there are... a lot of things i *want* to say about this, but for the sake of the thread health and my sanity, i'm just going to ask you to, when you have time, actually go through the case, show me which logic you liked / agreed with and what about my response did you dislike or not agree with.In post 1794, MargotRosa wrote:For why I like ssbm case, without going through the game thread (which is a pain in the arse on mobile), I remember thinking it was incredibly detailed, and very logical. As I have said earlier, I am particularly interested in logical, rather than emotional, arguments, and that was the initial impression I got.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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mmm, i'm also gonna need elaboration on this. iirc, you still haven't shown the datisi/salsa connection you saw (link me if you have), and why do you think i don't fit with anyone else?In post 1797, MargotRosa wrote:Realistically, I don't see Datisi partnered with anyone elseI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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where? all i found is you saying salsa is your top suspect but also that we should slow down. even if that's a scumread, that's still just one
why are you town, aristeia?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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are you purposefully misrepping the everliving shit out of what i'm saying or do you genuinely believe the crap you're spewing?
i'm watching something right now, so i'll get into why 1813 is a dumpsterfire after that.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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where the fuck did you do that? you first mentioned that team in 1563, with no elaboration whatsoever. to then go "nvm" 5 minutes later. you even said later yourself (1716) that that was the first time you seriously thought of that team. when i ask "why were you thinking of that team?", i'm asking why you're thinking of it way back then when you first mentioned it. because if you first thought of it back on d3, there is no way that d4's events were actually influencing that read. so what was it?In post 1813, MargotRosa wrote:
Yes I have! What is your actual problem dude? I have said, already, that I felt like anyone partnered with you needs to be scum reading you. I've been clear on that, and given that you've apparently spent soooooo much time rereading the thread, you'd surely have found it in the ISOIn post 1810, Datisi wrote:
mmm, i'm also gonna need elaboration on this. iirc, you still haven't shown the datisi/salsa connection you saw (link me if you have), and why do you think i don't fit with anyone else?In post 1797, MargotRosa wrote:Realistically, I don't see Datisi partnered with anyone else
furthermore, even if we say that i'm only talking about your d4 reads here and not d3, you said that anyone partnered with me has to be scumreading me. okay, fine! but you know who's showed that they're scumreading me today? both salsa and ari! so what i'm asking is why the fuck do you think that i'm not partnered with ari? you gave no explanation for why i'm suddenly not a viable ari partner, despite your "datisi's partner would've been scumreading him" read implying you shouldn't be thinking that. fuck me for asking you to elaborate on your vague unexplained thoughts?
i don't ask for evidence. i *understand* there is no evidence for anything. i'm asking for evidence of your fucking thought process. to prove to me not what you're saying is true, but that you genuinely believe in what you're saying and how you got there. i don't give a shit about half-baked unexplained reads, i can't use them to solve anyone. i need a thought process that nobody is willing to give.In post 1813, MargotRosa wrote:This whole "where's the evidence" thing you're doing is unbelievably frustrating, because at this point, there is none. I think that's very clear. But there's none for anybody. If there was, the votes would be stacked up to go already. Noone is sure, because all the clear scumreads are already dead.
policy vote, what for, for playing the game? what, you figured out you can't say anything good about kyouko's case other than "hurr durr it's logical" so you attack and vote me based on policy?In post 1813, MargotRosa wrote:Honestly, sick of this. You are so intransigent and frustrating. Even if this is just a policy vote, it's a policy vote well earned by your slot. I'm trying to read slots, and you're fucking around with these flailing desperate attempts to beg people to provide evidence you know nobody has, and being cruel and hostile to everyone els let in the thread.
i thought your posts after salsa's recent posting were scummy, because it felt like you were being purposefully ignorant of what she was saying when it was obvious she wasn't gonna properly defend herself which would let you push her. i was gonna wait for you to do the thing you love so much which is use facts and logic on kyouko's case on me. but no, you're just gonna throw a fit after me being annoyed for you talking about a salsa/datisi team since d3 and refusing to say why you were thinking of that team. fine.
VOTE: margotrosa
i'm vt. vote me out, vote salsa out tomorrow, lose the fucking game. i don't give a shit right now. partner is chaos/ari, slightly more likely to be chaos but i'm not gonna pretend like i know.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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ah yes. the very deep and elaborate explanation for why i can only be partnered with salsa. i truly have no idea how i could've possibly missed it.In post 1797, MargotRosa wrote:Realistically, I don't see Datisi partnered with anyone elseI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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in the context of 1793 to 1798? alright, let's see...In post 1825, MargotRosa wrote:
Read in context of all the posts I quoted, which incidentally, I didn't do for funIn post 1823, Datisi wrote:
ah yes. the very deep and elaborate explanation for why i can only be partnered with salsa. i truly have no idea how i could've possibly missed it.In post 1797, MargotRosa wrote:Realistically, I don't see Datisi partnered with anyone else
- 1793 says that you think chaos is the only person who does not make sense as my partner, as you doubt that i would make it that obvious (by shitfighting with everyone but him) that i'm partnered with him. reasonable, but doesn't say anything about ari/datisi.
- 1795 is talking about salsa's possible partnerships, you think she makes sense as a partner to either me or chaos, and to nobody else. nothing about ari/datisi.
- 1796 is a repeat of me and chaos not being partnered. nothing about ari/datisi.
- 1797 is the post in question, which now asserts that i cannot be partnered with anyone else [but salsa]. hmm... why is ari out of the picture again?
- 1798 is again talking about associates with salsa and doesn't mention me at all.
what context am i missing here? am i supposed to be psychic and magically know what you meant inbetween 1796 and 1797?
also noted that you have not addressed (1) what gave you a salsa/datisi vibe on d3, (2) the fact that you misrepped me about demanding "evidence", and (3) that you still haven't revisited the kyouko case and explained what you liked about it or what you disliked about my rebuttal.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i can't comment on the latter, since it's salsa's doing and not mine, but the bolded kinda annoys me. like, if i'm scum in this game, i entered the game screaming and bashing at one of my partners... while basically ignoring the other? it's kinda *odd* to hear this from you, considering you were the one who said "scum don't make themselves obviously aligned before lylo". like, i dunno, if you're the one to think of that, you don't strike me as a player to also think that i'm +scum with someone have little associates with, especially considering both scenarios are discussing the same hypothetical scum!datisi.In post 1827, MargotRosa wrote:Salsa makes sense to me as your partner because you two rarely interact,I feel like there has been very little in the way of Salsa appealing to you in the way she has done to other slots, almost as if she doesn't feel the need to convince you to read her in a certain way.
cool, would it have killed you to say this back when i first asked?In post 1828, MargotRosa wrote:I began wondering whether you two were a team because I thought about your Salsa/Margot read, and felt it was insurance
lmfao yes you are. your "i'm sick of you asking everyone for evidence! nobody has evidence!" bullshit is a straight up misrep, because i never asked anyone for evidence of anything. i am aware that that's not how the game works. i ask for explanations of the thought process.In post 1829, MargotRosa wrote:I'm not misrepping you
In post 1831, MargotRosa wrote:As for how you reacted, it wasn't your reactions towards ssbm that have made me suspicious. It's the way in which you reacted to everyone else who felt that ssbm is right. It feels like desperation, trying to land any other playing who a scum read might stick to
yeah, god forbid i have a different opinion on different pushes on my slot, right?In post 1832, MargotRosa wrote:Ari, me, though interestingly, way less Salsa, which is oddI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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my issue with scum!salsa is that, like... what the fuck is scum!salsa doing here? scum generally, like, tries to win. i think that everyone here is potentially working towards some sorta wincon for scum!themselves, except for salsa who seems to be all over the place. if whoever has experience with scum!her knows some of her meta and that this fits it, then by all means let me know, but i struggle to see just like, what is she trying to achieve here. and the fact that she was already next in the poe line and we've been mindlessly going down it and it's gotten us nothing but green flips so far is worryingI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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there's something that makes me uneasy about the "we should be limming in the t3 voters". the fact is that we've been doing that, we killed three people (if you count the vig shot) who were not on the iv wagon, and they all flipped green. and i'm kinda skeptical of this? like, how many green flips does it take for you to get worried about there being deepwolves?In post 1838, ChaosOmega wrote:I know my alignment so I'm biased, but this seems like a waste of a lim. With the way D1 played out, it is extremely likely scum were on the T3 counterwagon. I know it's impossible both scum bussed because the only unaccounted iv votes are me and Margot, but even from the outside it should seem extremely unlikely. We should be limming in the D1 T3 voters until scum is hit and reassess after.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i was about to ask where you are.In post 1841, Aristeia wrote:so who is scum then?
i dunno. i'm voting margot because her actions towards me and salsa feel ill-intended. i think if she were to flip red it would mean salsa is probably green, so her partner would be between you/omega. neither of these make perfect sense because pretty much everyone here has Good anti-associates with iv, but gun-to-head i'd now say you're the partner, considering how hard have you two been defending each other, and margot's posts kinda leave her open to having to agree to yeet omega today, should it come to it.
hmm. omega "didn't have to vote iv", ari was arguing with the ic about iv being emotionally manipulative, and margot made that hugeassfucken post against iv. these are all great, but at least one of these interactions is s/s, if not two. i *guess* ari's is the weakest there. but ari/salsa is such a nonsense team? salsa basically boxing herself into having to scumread ari once dats flips green and then just *not* scumreading ari after that feels way too bold / out-there that i kinda don't think she'd do it.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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In post 1811, Aristeia wrote:
I already said thisIn post 1809, Datisi wrote:okay, if some part of you still thinks i'm town, who is scum then?In post 1812, Datisi wrote:where? all i found is you saying salsa is your top suspect but also that we should slow down. even if that's a scumread, that's still just one
why are you town, aristeia?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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surely your current most confident solve isn't "no kill happened because scum was inactive during the night phase"?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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now i'm thinking of that game where scum actually did fuck up and forgot to input the nightkill... but that was not_mafia. like, surely not.
pedit: do you have a guess based on dayplay?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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keep in mind we're talking a gypyx "normal" here.
i'm assuming there's *something* else in town since 2 ic's + a vig seems like pretty boring town power overall, and i'm sure it accounts for the scum pr we have flipped.
i don't feel like there's much point in mechspec while margot is hiding whatever the hell she's hiding, though. it's basically impossible without that info.
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so... you think a very weird cross-bus is possible here?In post 1855, Aristeia wrote:
by dayplay salsa/chaos feel the weakest out of the unconfirmedsIn post 1852, Datisi wrote:now i'm thinking of that game where scum actually did fuck up and forgot to input the nightkill... but that was not_mafia. like, surely not.
pedit: do you have a guess based on dayplay?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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good call imo.In post 1858, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Maybe Margot should just claim actually, as tomorrow is ELO if we miss today, or MELO if she is a protective that is able to stop a kill. Either way, best to have the claim out before then just in case I think. Too .any reasonable possibilities right now to hold that claim.
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i'm gonna go do some actual work now, be back in an hour or two.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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why. why are you so dead sure on margot being town that you're apparently not even interested in *considering* her slot when we've been having townflip after townflip since the end of d1?In post 1863, ChaosOmega wrote:I don't think Margot is scum, I'm not interested in considering her slot.
if someone wants to accuse me of rolefishing here: yes. yes, i am rolefishing, because if this is something connected to mechanics it needs to get out. and if it's Pure Reads, it needs to get out too.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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what the fuck is your problem?In post 1867, Salsabil Faria wrote:Guys, please understand!DatisiisiSo-dIvInGa thousand paged game and only he is doing it! Rest of us are chilling! Don’t you feel bad for him at all??? How ruthless!
Btw, does MS hasWorst Mafia Playeraward? Please tell them to send it to meI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i know, but she didn't. why, is it because of That One Post or smt else?In post 1872, ChaosOmega wrote:It's not rolefishing, I claimed VT already. I just have a strong town read on her.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i'm sorry, how did you manage to work that out? was there a super obvious crumb i'm missing?In post 1884, ChaosOmega wrote:That's exactly what I thought your role was.
and uh. town backup vigilante. so there's already 3 confirmed towns in the game, two ic's and our vig. (i'm assuming 1-shot.) so you're telling me, once scum manages to do the mechanically correct play and kill the 1-shot vigilante, their reward is... town getting a full vigilante? who is practically another ic since they can confirm themselves once they shoot? and it's most likely gonna result in town getting an extra yeet (since two vig shots = 1 extra yeet)? *and* even if scum knows of the backup vig, and even if they kill them the night after they kill the og vig, they're still fucked because the vig will be able to get the shot off during that night anyway?
i dunno. if this mess is somehow balanced, then scum has a literal metric shit ton of power to counteract the town.
and worse, it still doesn't explain where tf the nightkill went. nobody here is something like bulletproof and sitting on this info for shits and giggles, right?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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salsa, why are you acting like a jester?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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well, you're not outing any power roles, and it doesn't seem like we have much else to talk about now, so...?In post 1890, ChaosOmega wrote:I have a theory about the missed NK, but I don't think it's helpful to discuss.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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ok, if someone here is a bp, you are aware that scum already knows you're bp because they tried to shoot you and failed, right? (unless ari is the protective or our protective is purposefully staying silent in which case i will have words post game)
but also like, you're expecting me to believe
3 ic's, one of them is a 1-shot vig
either one of them being some sorta bp OR there being a some sorta protect/block role
AND a backup vigilante who just goes full berserk ungated vigilante once scum manages to kill the gated vig?
nah. nah fam. kyouko has a good point that scum was aware of the fact that vig exists from the beginning. which is why margot's crumbs of "i could reveal my role if i wanted" give even less towncred considering she could have been planning a backup vig claim for a long while. and not like that "crumb" is backup vig specific either. like she could've had multiple of them planned and then decided to go with that once she saw that she won't have to "prove" the fact she's a vigI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i've already claimed vt, but i can claim again, i am not a backup. i believe salsa has also claimed to being vt.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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no, no, and no. a role-specific backup inherits the role as soon as one role dies, regardless of if the alignment is the same or not. the universal backup is the one that only inherits the same alignment's role. so there's no way that is a part of the "standardized role pm".In post 1925, MargotRosa wrote:Also, for what it's worth, the "in your faction" bit was what made me wonder whether there was a mafia aligned vigilante in the game. Likely just a standardised part of role PMs based on others saying it's impossible
now, the reason i'm not going to kill you for this mistake alone is that vig is town only, so there is no way that a scum vig can die anyway. but to now think you're town, i also have to buy that the role pm was written in an unusual and indirect way. sounds more like you saw the sample role pm for univeral backup and decided to parrot it, not realizing they aren't the same.
which, btw, you should become a full vig once any vig dies. you wouldn't become 1-shot, and even if you did, you would have your shot regardless or not kyouko got her shot off. but i'm putting this one as a mistake that is more likely to happen during review, because normal games can be kinda wonky. but yeah.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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WHEN. everyone has claimed vt. unless someone is fakeclaiming for shits and giggles, when is this happening.In post 1934, MargotRosa wrote:I also find it really odd that it hasn't occurred to you that, maybe, the reason my role doesn't explain why Enchant is still alive might be because, shock horror, I'm telling the truth, and the truth of why Enchant is still alive is yet to be revealed?!?!
and please get your facts straight. i was voting you long before you claimed.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i don't know. my current assumption is that you wanted to claim backup vigilante, went to uni backup's wiki page, saw the "inherit first pr of your faction, lose any shots used by the original owner" bit, and constructed your "role pm" from that info, while being unaware that uni backup and role-specific backup are different, i.e. that a role-specific backup activates as soon as any of the role die, regardless of alignment and modifier*. (i'm not 100% sure on the latter part, but i think a backup vig would become a full vig if a 1-shot vig died.)In post 1948, MargotRosa wrote:Why wouldn't I have claimed universal backup then?
anyway, that was such weird wording for a backup vigilante role pm, but i know that gypyx writes his own role pm's, and he's not a native speaker, so it wouldn't surprise me if the role pm was written clunkily. *however*, then i remembered that gypyx had had a backup in his games before. i rolled town backup roleblocker in mini normal 2180. and this is my role pm from that game:
maybe it's foolish to assume that gypyx would keep the consistency of the role pm from almost a year ago, but damn this looks much different than "You will Inherit the first [role] to die in your faction".Gypyx wrote:I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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what made you think so?In post 1957, ChaosOmega wrote:I think Margot's lying?
To confirm Margot, you said your role name is "Town Backup Vigilante"?
also, @kyouko, everyone has claimed, nobody else is a backup, why were you asking that?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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well. a 4-power joat is more like gypyx's style. also that makes me think ever more that margot's line is overkill, considering kyouko isn't a 1-shot vig, she's 1-shot vig + 3 other things.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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margot's role is overkill*I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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kyo, do you genuinely believe that
2 ic's
a 4-power joat who is also conftown since they have a vig shot
and a backup vig that becomes full vig once scum does the MECHANICALLY CORRECT PLAY and shoots the joat
are all town???I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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