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Hi everyone! I hammered this game in the queue. This is my first normal game in months, after playing a newbie game as warmup. I played with most of this list before, actually.
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MFW I'm not on the list.In post 59, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:reads so far:
town:
andres
galron
scumbag:
nero CaIn
Possibly plotting evil ReVenGeZ:
Tweetie / Angela
null:
gera
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Exactly. It's the Gambler's Fallacy. While flipping a coin and it landing on heads 100 times in a row is very unlikely, the coin has no memory and each flip has a 50/50 chance of being heads.In post 79, Scorpious wrote:
because I was going to lead into my analogy of Roulette at a casino. They tell you what numbers have fallen and people use that to "predict" what numbers will come next.In post 73, angela wrote:could you maybe put to words why?
like what can be gained from this/have you checked the math yourself/would it mean anything if it was untruthful
can wait until andres responds i guess if you'd like
but i don't really get it
But probability states that the past rolls have zero bearing on the next one, meaning you could be town in 99% of your games up to thins one, but that means nothing this time around.
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Great, I'm getting flashbacks to my previous game with NM.In post 91, Not_Mafia wrote:SUPCLODPOLES,I'MTHEJESTERANDI'MHERETOTROLLTHEFECALMATTEROUTOFTHISGAME!
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NM is always null TBH, I don't feel piling votes on him while someone might act scummy later in the day is wise.-
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This entire exchange is bizarre but I'm fairly sure angela and Scorpious are not both scum at least. Smells slightly of TvT.-
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Explain.
It's a gut read. Not a strong one but it reads more like a town misunderstanding than mafia trying to discredit someone. And in any case it's very hard to see it as SvS.Galron wrote:
Can you flesh that out "smells slightly of TvT?" There's a bit to unpack there.In post 180, KittyTacky wrote:This entire exchange is bizarre but I'm fairly sure angela and Scorpious are not both scum at least. Smells slightly of TvT.-
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NM is an infamous player with a very unconventional and trollish style of play that makes him difficult to read. He doesn't straight up gamethrow or anything but he has a shtick of hammering anyone at E-1. It's often proposed to lim him early so he doesn't get in the way, but I feel it's silly to lim a null player when other players might yet make themselves scummy.In post 190, MalcolmTucker wrote:Can someone explain the immediate wave of suspicion/possible wagoning on NM? Feel like I'm missing some important meta stuff here, most of that exchange gone right over me.-
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It was an honest read, and I didn't say it was definitely TvT.In post 195, Nero Cain wrote:
scum very much do naked votes but I feel like I sorta got where Rathe was coming from, prob thinks that kitty is scummy for hedging a bit and calling it TvT. That's an EZ play for scum to make and could point to being informed. Juxtapose that to gera coming in and plopping down a 4th vote to turn an RVS wagon into a serious one.In post 191, MalcolmTucker wrote:
Maybe feels a bit more lazy town than mafia to me though? I dunno, no meta on Rathe but I feel like most mafia players will at least want to give some justification for a fairly lazy vote early on.In post 182, Scorpious wrote:Ooh, do me next..
Love when a slots only 2 posts are naked votes..
Love…it…
I think they are most likely not both mafia and are more likely than normal to both be town. That was my take. It's not mutually exclusive.In post 199, Rathe wrote:which one is it or do u already know they are both town
So I'm scummy for sharing my honest reads so far? I'm not committing to it fully not because I am scum, but because I am unsure if it really is TvT. Rathe's push seems kinda unfounded.In post 206, Morning Tweet wrote:VOTE: KittyTacky for the "smells slightly of TvT". That's like an upgraded form of the TvT tell in my opinion because Kitty A.) got TvT early and B.) won't commit to it fully
angela is more than likely town
I do not get Galron's line of questioning to gera in 151
pedit: I disagree, he's probably scum and even if he flips town it's not a loss and is something that may have to happen later in the game anyway. But I also see the arguments for not doing it. It's not so much policy in my opinion though, I don't usually vote NM d1
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Rathe is kinda scummy due to the poor reasoning, Pooky is town from their other posts' vibe, Morning is hard to put my finger on. A bit early for a full readlist IMO.In post 240, angela wrote:
do youIn post 238, KittyTacky wrote:Like I really don't see why saying "this is likely TvT" is scummy.
think any of the people who have shared their thoughts on this
are likely to be mafias though?
like do any of them stand out to you specifically/what ways do they differ from the others that you think might be more likely to be scums?-
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Because he also does this as town.In post 248, Nero Cain wrote:if you played with NM before and he did this as scum then why are you saying that its a poor idea?-
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And how on Earth is being willing to explain my reasoning scummy? I really don't get yours.In post 251, geraintm wrote:Kittytack is getting attention because they are one of the few players willing to try and explain their reasoning, and so just easy to keep pressure on them
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No seriously. "This player is putting effort into the game, that's worthy of a vote." Christ.
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No it's just an inane push.Scorpious wrote:In post 284, KittyTacky wrote:
And how on Earth is being willing to explain my reasoning scummy? I really don't get yours.In post 251, geraintm wrote:Kittytack is getting attention because they are one of the few players willing to try and explain their reasoning, and so just easy to keep pressure on them
VOTE: kitty
This exchange feels like a poor distancing attempt.
I'm mentioning him because his reasoning for voting me makes no sense.In post 294, Morning Tweet wrote:For those unfamilar gerain hates playing D1 and he has done pretty much nothing out of the usual this game
I'm unsure why Galron and Nero (and now Rathe/Kitty) are mentioning him so much for how little he is playing..-
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Okay, so you are voting someone you feel is contributing to the game positively? For "pressure"?In post 307, geraintm wrote:
It can be made to appear summy by those who want to, because you are one of the few players giving out stuff to work with.In post 284, KittyTacky wrote:
And how on Earth is being willing to explain my reasoning scummy? I really don't get yours.In post 251, geraintm wrote:Kittytack is getting attention because they are one of the few players willing to try and explain their reasoning, and so just easy to keep pressure on them
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It's not angst, it's confusion. A naked vote would be less weird than... that.In post 312, Scorpious wrote:I think Kitty has made themselves the LHF of D1… not ready to vote there yet but I’m not opposed to that wagon.
I want to see less angst and more hunting.
Angela comes of to me as a slightly less verbal Frozen Angel.. very hard to read
When I first played with Ger i immediately thought scum based on playstyle but as this being the second game with them and their explanations on not liking D1. With that being said though, that’s not really an excuse to mail in Day 1. I hope they keep notes or something. While I agree most D1’s end in mislim, I don’t think it should be dismissed entirely.
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Why? What else should I say? Gera's reason for voting me makes literally zero sense whatsoever and, to me, that's quite scummy.In post 335, Morning Tweet wrote: That was a terrible reaction by Kitty because it makes an unreasonable assumption and ends all thought there. You don't say "Oh you're voting me because you think I'm towny? You're scum" and stop. That is, unless if you're not interested in actually trying to solve-
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I'm down for limming him if there are no leads or he becomes a liability. Which is probably not today.In post 337, Morning Tweet wrote:Does no one else find it weird that half of the game instantly shuts down any and all discussion surrounding NM for some reason?
I am not asking for him to be eliminated today but down the line I want you to remember that he's going to always be +scum and he will quickhammer all wagons on top of that (even in Xylo if he's scum).-
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Fair enough, I have very little to no experience with gera, though the name sounds familiar. If he always acts weird like this even as town then I have no reason to vote him. UNVOTE:In post 341, Morning Tweet wrote:
Doesn't make sense doesn't automatically mean scummy.In post 339, KittyTacky wrote:
Why? What else should I say? Gera's reason for voting me makes literally zero sense whatsoever and, to me, that's quite scummy.In post 335, Morning Tweet wrote: That was a terrible reaction by Kitty because it makes an unreasonable assumption and ends all thought there. You don't say "Oh you're voting me because you think I'm towny? You're scum" and stop. That is, unless if you're not interested in actually trying to solve
My first reaction was that geraintm made a typo. He seems to have explained it as a separate thought from the vote, which is strange but not necessarily scummy to me.
my point is that as town, generally a lot of the other town aren't going to be on the same page as you so you've got to do more than: take what someone says at face value, even if it doesnt make sense, then scumread and end there
I'm not closed off to gerain being scum but he has just felt like he's playing weird rather than inherently scummy, but people are latching onto that for some reason
It's not a contradiction, and I said I'm not sure it's TvT. It's too early to fully set it as that, sure.In post 351, Andresvmb wrote:
The first part. I’m not sure it’s a contradiction, but I definitely felt it was way too early to be calling that interaction TvT. I definitely arrived at the same conclusion. It seemed to want to defuse away from a Partner in a way that wasn’t realistic. The probing by angela seemed genuine as far as I can tell, and I didn’t immediately assume they were just off base.In post 336, Morning Tweet wrote:
Do you like the "Kitty already knows angela/Scorp are town" component, or do you likeIn post 325, Andresvmb wrote:
Rathe I think you could be Town. I like this take.In post 199, Rathe wrote:which one is it or do u already know they are both town
the part where Rathe calls this a contradiction?In post 198, Rathe wrote:kitty mentioned that angela and scorpius cannot both be mafia n then says they r probably both town-
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Correct. How is my post an overreaction? It's not like I flipped out, I just snarked at gera. This and your other posts regarding me read like a shade-throwing attempt. I'll wait until I catch up to vote you to not accidentally hammer you if it came to that though.In post 369, Scorpious wrote:I'm fairly confident that within a few posts Kitty will vote me..-
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That's my issue with them too but I wan't sure how to articulate it.In post 404, Save The Dragons wrote:the issue with rathe is
kitty goes "i think this is TvT"
rathe goes "you KNOW it's TvT!" without citing any evidence or providing any reasoning for this other than kitty provided a TvT
then rathe loses interest and votes for ger for wagoning which seems opportunistic to me.-
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It was an expression of exasperation.In post 420, Andresvmb wrote:I felt the “Christ” was condescending. Perhaps sarcastic isn’t the exact term. Whichever way you prefer to describe it, I would argue it isn’t equal to an overreaction. If you think someone has bad logic, and you highlight that bad logic by using a remark like there, and then you put a vote down, at most you could argue that the reasoning is bad, or you could say that you disagree. But an overreaction? The accusation seems incorrect. Look if you want me to further that thought - I think Scorpious is using a rather innocuous post to cast shade onto a slot in a way I disagree with. How about that?-
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The cardinal sin of defending yourself when pushed...In post 531, Rathe wrote:the more kitty talks about people suspecting him the more defensive he gets n the more suspicious i get
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In post 534, I said I am still catching up and despite my intent to vote you, I'm not doing it until I read the entire thread. Sorry if it was vague. The vote in 537 is unrelated to the rest of my post and is due to my read on you.In post 542, Scorpious wrote:
I'm not the only one that thinks so. and I think I've reference you twice..In post 534, KittyTacky wrote:
Correct. How is my post an overreaction? It's not like I flipped out, I just snarked at gera. This and your other posts regarding me read like a shade-throwing attempt.In post 369, Scorpious wrote:I'm fairly confident that within a few posts Kitty will vote me..I'll wait until I catch up to vote you to not accidentally hammer you if it came to that though.
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It's not planned, I saw there were a lot of pages to catch up on and I didn't want to vote until I do lest I accidentally hammer him early in the day if a wagon had been built to E-2 (i.e E-1 with NM in the game).In post 549, angela wrote:i think pretty clear kittytacky was working to scorpious vote there through the posts just because vote is in last post doesn’t mean needs to be connected to rest of post in context
however the bit about ‘don’t want to hammer’ or whatever kinda ???
like it maybe seems too planned altogether as a series of posts to have the first one also say ‘lemme read the game first tho’-
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Elaborate.In post 573, Scorpious wrote:I think I currently have the 3 worst votes ever on me right now, lol..
They just keeping getting worse and worse..-
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Not clear to me. Angela seems town to me, Andres is null, Scorp is scummy.In post 627, Morning Tweet wrote:i feel like it's fairly clear angela/scorp/andres are town at this point-
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While I agree with this, I still think Scorp is likely scum.In post 720, Rathe wrote:didnt rly like the interaction with scorpius n pooky but i would probably still add pooky in the town group-
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The power was out in my house for most of the IRL day, sorry for lurking!
I really hate Scorp's reactions to me. That's my main reason to SR him.In post 846, MalcolmTucker wrote:I find the current vote tally on Scorpious quite interesting - as has been noted we're nearing elimination and he's generally had the biggest vote tally throughout the game but nobody actually appears to be pushing him or trying to solidify that block as such. Why not, if they want him out?-
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I think no lim is only a good idea if there are no leads, but there's at least one quite scummy person, why not have a lim?In post 849, geraintm wrote:
oh, i am 100% down for no elimination, but whenever i say that i usually get shouted at and no one likes that so i tend to just think that instead of saying it nowadays.In post 830, angela wrote:
interesting to me that this is your aim when you've also said that you think it would be better if towns did not eliminate day oneIn post 805, geraintm wrote:
ah, its just me having a little bit of fun and trying to achieve my aim for Day 1, which is to get to Day 2 as quickly as possible. dont mind me, i promise i'll be better from tomorrow onwardsIn post 777, angela wrote:
it is significantly more suspicious to me that you'd lock into voting in a manner that is not particularly + townIn post 700, geraintm wrote:you know what, it is a contradiction. but once i sorta commit to a way of voting i kinda have to stick to it, otherwise to me that looks suspicious. kinda locked in for the rest of today, sorry.
while being aware that that is what you are doing
which i assumed to involve using the entire day to figure things out and then using the information gained from nightkill to also inform decisions
(which information gain not worth loss of elimination, odd number of players and such)
and get to day two as quickly as possible has the exact opposite effect of limiting information as much as possible
but idk how alignment relevant this might be
I don't want to spend today trying to figure things out, i just want to skip to day 2 when we can all start playing properly. Dy 1 is just...tiresome. And i spent a month waiting for this game to fire and then have to wait another week until it gets going properly.-
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Yeah, ger reads to me more like a weird townie proposing weird plays than a scum trying to push something that will hurt town.In post 856, angela wrote:i am pretty willing to give geraintm a day one pass here even though it is very frustrating to me as well just don’t really think it makes geraintm super likely mafia-
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Exactly, I'm finding this game kinda difficult to read so far and there are people I'm willing to sheep.In post 863, MalcolmTucker wrote:
On the Scorpious wagon, I feel like this could apply to Nero and Kitty. Doesn't mean they're definitely mafia, could be it's just their best read so far in a game that's been light on proper reads for the most part, but it feels like a wagon that simultaneously won't go away while also not going anywhere in particular.In post 861, Save The Dragons wrote:
names?In post 859, MalcolmTucker wrote:
I think you're at least consistently making posts and trying to move the game forward though, you're the most active player here and while that doesn't guarantee town, I feel like most of your posts are adding something to play. Whereas I feel like some other slots are dropping votes on players they potentially feel confident on without doing anything about it beyond that in a way that could easily be mafia coasting by.In post 855, angela wrote:
i mean, do you think it is alignment indicative that i haven’t pushed the scorpious wagon over?In post 846, MalcolmTucker wrote:I find the current vote tally on Scorpious quite interesting - as has been noted we're nearing elimination and he's generally had the biggest vote tally throughout the game but nobody actually appears to be pushing him or trying to solidify that block as such. Why not, if they want him out?-
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Guess what? My power cut out again!
How so? Is this an OMGUS?In post 972, Scorpious wrote:
It's posts like this that make me agree on Kitty...In post 534, KittyTacky wrote:
Correct. How is my post an overreaction? It's not like I flipped out, I just snarked at gera. This and your other posts regarding me read like a shade-throwing attempt. I'll wait until I catch up to vote you to not accidentally hammer you if it came to that though.In post 369, Scorpious wrote:I'm fairly confident that within a few posts Kitty will vote me..
They've totally buddied up to Pooky as well who I believe has been pushing me the hardest.-
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Are you an activated IC or what? You already basically claimed it, might as well reveal?In post 996, Scorpious wrote:
Even easier to prove than that..In post 994, angela wrote:are you a mason?-
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UNVOTE:In post 1006, Scorpious wrote:Damnit, I did the same thing I said like 100 posts I want to stop doing..
UNVOTE:
I’m a town mailman b t dubs
Send someone you think is town the message "I'm Scorpius and I'm town" or an equivalent tonight then. If they claim they didn't get it, we hang you tomorrow and then them if you were really mailman. 1 for 1. But for now, live.-
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NVM, yeah, it could be a lie, I forgot how mailman works. Could be a scum mailman, not a super rare role.
VOTE: Scorpius-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Fair, but it's such an easy claim for a Mafiailman though. and Really, it's not a very strong role either way due to easily being scum, thus not autoconfirm.In post 1017, MalcolmTucker wrote:
Understand the role can go either way, but we should probably not be eliminating someone claiming town PR D1 here.In post 1014, Andresvmb wrote:Like I wouldn’t stop voting you just so I can preserve a mailman. There’s probably multiple elements of the game I’m missing obviously with incomplete information, but I’m not all of a sudden going to start thinking oh a mailman? That’s such an important role, I need to immediately unvote.
Having said that, what it does do is confirm at night that you’re away from where the NK takes place (unless you can multi-task), which I suppose on balance is a positive.
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Interesting. Extremely niche play though. Never really thought it could be used like that lol.In post 1020, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like realistically the only thing you can do with it is send msgs that say "hey if you receive this message then say ____" in your first post of the day and if they don't say it then you find a mafia ascetic?
its kind of a shitty checker?-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Definitely, it's extremely easily to prove that you'reIn post 1033, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i don't think this is a fakeclaim becuz it'd be so dumb to fake claim a mailman role you don't haveamailman, but it's nearly impossible to prove that you're a town mailman.-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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The claim proves nothing, even if he claimed something stupid like Bulletproof Cop in a previous game doesn't mean he is forever locked into making wacky fakeclaims.-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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That and your general attitude. Your treatment of your claim as something "easily provable" when it isn't also struck me as an attempt to cop out of being the D1 lim.In post 1127, Scorpious wrote:
This makes total sense,but you are taking a very self centered view of me...In post 1104, KittyTacky wrote:The power was out in my house for most of the IRL day, sorry for lurking!
I really hate Scorp's reactions to me. That's my main reason to SR him.In post 846, MalcolmTucker wrote:I find the current vote tally on Scorpious quite interesting - as has been noted we're nearing elimination and he's generally had the biggest vote tally throughout the game but nobody actually appears to be pushing him or trying to solidify that block as such. Why not, if they want him out?
let's make it clear, you think I'm scum because I thought you over-reacted to a push. correct?
They are if they do this in all games as either alignment, as has been said. I disagree but it's NAI.Scorpious wrote:
You mean, by constantly bringing up how much they hate D1, and floating a no lim scenario?In post 1107, KittyTacky wrote:
Yeah, ger reads to me more like a weird townie proposing weird plays than a scum trying to push something that will hurt town.In post 856, angela wrote:i am pretty willing to give geraintm a day one pass here even though it is very frustrating to me as well just don’t really think it makes geraintm super likely mafia
These are weird townie things?
I do know but that looked like a shot.Scorpious wrote:
This is not a shot...In post 1116, KittyTacky wrote:Guess what? My power cut out again!
How so? Is this an OMGUS?In post 972, Scorpious wrote:
It's posts like this that make me agree on Kitty...In post 534, KittyTacky wrote:
Correct. How is my post an overreaction? It's not like I flipped out, I just snarked at gera. This and your other posts regarding me read like a shade-throwing attempt. I'll wait until I catch up to vote you to not accidentally hammer you if it came to that though.In post 369, Scorpious wrote:I'm fairly confident that within a few posts Kitty will vote me..
They've totally buddied up to Pooky as well who I believe has been pushing me the hardest.
Do you know what OMGUS is?
As I stated in the next post, I realized the problem with my plan (second point), thus making it worthless because a Mafiailman can also pull it off. But just to answer your first and third points, if scum is messaged and lies about receiving the message then it's an 1 for 1, and I don't see how lining up lims is bad in this context. Pointless now anyhow.Scorpious wrote:
Few problems here.In post 1118, KittyTacky wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 1006, Scorpious wrote:Damnit, I did the same thing I said like 100 posts I want to stop doing..
UNVOTE:
I’m a town mailman b t dubs
Send someone you think is town the message "I'm Scorpius and I'm town" or an equivalent tonight then. If they claim they didn't get it, we hang you tomorrow and then them if you were really mailman. 1 for 1. But for now, live.
1.What if I message scum?
2.Why would anyone believe a random "Hey I'm town" It's possible,but if I got a message like that I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
3.You're lining up lims, never good.
1. I'm not comparing it, I'm saying this is a more plausible claim but it doesn't prove your innocence on meta.Scorpious wrote:
If you're comparing that to this you need to read up on roles.In post 1123, KittyTacky wrote:The claim proves nothing, even if he claimed something stupid like Bulletproof Cop in a previous game doesn't mean he is forever locked into making wacky fakeclaims.
People are also leaving out the context of that claim, and of course I was scum.. and we won the game..
2. You could very well be scum here too.
Angela and Pooky both look good to me.Scorpious wrote:
Most important quote and question saved for last...In post 1109, KittyTacky wrote:Exactly, I'm finding this game kinda difficult to read so far and there are people I'm willing to sheep.
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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But there's plenty of info to be gathered during the gay from e.g player reactions.In post 1149, geraintm wrote:
because town will acquire info during the night.In post 1145, MalcolmTucker wrote:Okay but how do we get any info on D2?-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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I respond as I scroll down, and I missed the part where you asked about activated IC.In post 1157, angela wrote:
a few things to that hm i guessIn post 1156, Scorpious wrote:
I didn't critique those weird comments because it felt like they were doing what I do often, read a post,respond,,then SURPRISE, they answered the question I just asked in the very next post..In post 1154, angela wrote:
hmIn post 1117, KittyTacky wrote:
Are you an activated IC or what? You already basically claimed it, might as well reveal?In post 996, Scorpious wrote:
Even easier to prove than that..In post 994, angela wrote:are you a mason?
like i also asked about activated innocent child and such also after you had otherwise claimed while i was reading
and it made me think about how like
why did you think andresvmb pushing you immediately before you claimed was mafia indicative?
and also with things like that i want to make note of it to look at later from a process perspective
like does it actually seem like kittytacky hadn’t yet read the intervening posts and such
like try to reserve engineer how posts seem to have been made-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Just because he claimed doesn't mean he can't be scum. Mailman is a very possible scum role anyways, and not very useful even if town. My vote is parked.In post 1237, geraintm wrote:I want to vote, but I think the biggest wagon is scorpions who I really don't want to vote for (because claim), and Not Mafia who I don't want to vote for because I know they are solvable as the game goes on-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Limming NM is dumb, it's limming someone who is always null D1 (if not all game) no matter what because he plays the exact same way D1 (if not all game) as any alignment.-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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I'm pushing only you because you are my main SR, and you and NM aren't comparable because NM is null.In post 1264, Scorpious wrote:I don’t see how Kitty can literally be at me or no lim WHILE calling a N_M launch stupid.
They have made no pushes on anyone else, and have molded me into fitting a narrative. They dismissed my claim and mashed the gas again on a push for me?
Who says They have exactly ONE person in their lim pool or it’s no launch for them..
Scummy AF and feels like TMI..
Thoughts?
Anyways it's late in Siberia, this is my last post this game day as the deadline will happen while I sleep. Good night.-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Told you going for NM is dumb. Scorp is scum.
Where did I say I was alright with a no lim, I said no lim was dumb before. Christ.In post 1276, Nero Cain wrote:
I think sorta makes sense that he doesn't want to vote a null read over 2 scum reads but being ok with d1 a no lim over a potentially scum slot that could harm town is being ass play.In post 1264, Scorpious wrote:Scummy AF and feels like TMI..
I also 2nd that Tucker pushing Gera all day and then they are on the same wagon together is iffy-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Claiming a power role doesn't make you town, especially if it's a weak and unconfirmable-as-town PR like mailman.
VOTE: Scorpius-
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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KittyTacky he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Weird naked vote.