Why is he not in the PoE and why isn’t Kitty town?In post 956, NJAC wrote:Agree. Not sure about Kitty, though.In post 913, Salsabil Faria wrote:My POE is{Professor,Porkens,Shiidaji,Galron,geraintm}(in no particular order) by creating the town-block including{NJAC,Malcolm,Kitty}
Why is Shidaji in your PoE?
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For some reason I thought this said less, my bad yeah I didn’t read it properly.In post 651, NJAC wrote:
Gun to your head who do you think is scum in Galron's wagon?In post 634, geraintm wrote:
i would have expected more of an effort from their partners if they were scum to get another wagon going. i dont think they are going to flip redIn post 615, Crescent wrote:And for the record it has all the makings of scum getting pressure and then lurking to try to wait it out. Galron has had 3 votes for about 50 hours. In this span, he has just 8 posts. There's been some very light shade at Malcolm, and... Really nothing else. He has made zero attempt to do anything towards the train on him, just some "pst pst hey look at Malcolm" followed by nothing.
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I second Galron!Town I like how they reacted to the pressure on them and their later posts felt Townie.In post 955, NJAC wrote:
Why? Do you think Galron is town? If so why?In post 909, geraintm wrote:looking at the wagons from day 1, i can only see the 2 main ones on Galron and Wayward Son. There was a minor one later on on me that had 3 people on it - 2 of whom are dead and the other was NJAC
Galron (4): Salsabil Faria, NJAC, Shiidaji, MalcolmTucker
that was Galron's
Wayward Son (5): Porkens, ProfessorDrapion, Galron, Shiidaji, Salsabil Faria, MalcolmTucker (Hammer)
that was the hammer
All 4 on Galron either ended up on Watward Son - Town, or me - Also Town (yes yes, i knwo you lot don't know that but i do).
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Give me Pros and Cons to every player.In post 1098, Shiidaji wrote:I am around to talk if anyone wants to pull up a chair my reads haven't changed much in the last page or two. Let's start talking consensus.-
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I think Kitty is town.
Here’s where I’m at Salsa has a high chance on being wolf but here is the funny thing.
Kitty can only be a wolf with two players that I can see, Guav and Salsa.
I know I said I think Guav is town but the threadstate says they can be a wolf just must be with Kitty/Guav so to clarify.
Guav/Kitty are town unless wolves together or one with Salsa.
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Ok.In post 1194, NJAC wrote:Yeah well, I'm not following your logic.
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I was trying to pressure them yesterday but instead I was the one getting pressured. X.XIn post 1178, Galron wrote:I'm at work I will look at njac's iso tonight. They really haven't gotten any pressure that I can recall. I don't see remember any conclusions being drawn from answers to questions they've asked. Like possible scum busy work.-
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I mean it really depends.In post 1334, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 1331, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Salsa could have bussed but that’s only if there is a wolf on the wagon it would be them.
Porkens is lock town to me rnScum!me wouldn't hammer genius, I would aim for the opposite wagon or even better, no-elimination
What the other wolf role is.
How safe you thought you were.
If ending the day immediately with a hammer is a good call in that scenario and you thought they were going to go over anyway so needed to make sure you were on it so you didn’t look bad.
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Look at this readslist and then look how both their highest towns were both executions and Salsa was on both wagons.In post 144, Salsabil Faria wrote:Read-list : 01
Slight Townleans⇨
Wayward: meta + vibe
NJAC: meta + I can understand what they're coming from aboutPorkens.
Malcolm: Get town vibes from 41 & 78.
Slight Scumleans⇨
Porkens: Reason stated in 140.
Professor: Their aggressive approach towardsNJACfor going afterPorkensdoesn’t sit well with me. It almost seems like (to me) theyknowsomehow. Also they kept trying to dismissPorkensis townNJAC's approach towardsPorkensby saying it’s completely NAI stuff (which isn’t, stated in 140 & 143) +buddying attemptwithCrescent(142).
While writing this, I findProfessoris more scummier thanPorkens.
VOTE: Professor
Shiidaji: (mostly based on vibe) got ping from 11 & 30 + don't understand theirCrescenttownread (74 ➤ where they mentioned 8 is a town response fromCrescentbut to me it’s a NAI stuff).
Rests are null for now.
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Another reason I pushed Wayward is because they had NJAC as a hard town read and it wasn’t on the right path I had and I felt like he could have hurt us later on (I’m correct) so I took out the dude I felt was town reading wolf/wolves if town and I was right.
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My strongest town read right now is Porkens. Never ever execute her.
The next one would be Galron who I think it’s going to flip town here, call it TMI if you want I honestly don’t GAF.
Malcolm/Shiji/Gera - are players I can town read but can also see wolf equity from at the same time.
Conflicting and haven’t came to a full conclusion on either of the 3.
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Ignoring his meme entrance vote on Kitty, this was his initial first vote.In post 312, NJAC wrote:Yeah, Salsa can go to my town list.
I'm having a hard time getting a proper read on Professor, but I'm not sure if his erratic behavior is coming from scum.
I think Kitty is at least trying, compared to Newbie 2100, so I feel I can unvote him for now.
I need to reread, meanwhile I'm just going to sheep Salsa:
VOTE: Galron
I don’t think he votes a buddy off the bat, sure he could be distancing but I’m not sure he just goes “yeah I’ll sheep this” onto his partner.
In post 535, NJAC wrote:
@Galron: what insights did you get from that game about scum!Porkens' play?In post 251, Galron wrote:
As a rep in it doesn't do much for early game analysis but I'm going to archive this for later on. Thanks!In post 250, Porkens wrote:viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83299&start=325In post 853, NJAC wrote:
Still working on it. It would be easier if there weren't so many anti town players.In post 837, Galron wrote:@NJAC Who's scum?In post 955, NJAC wrote:
Why? Do you think Galron is town? If so why?In post 909, geraintm wrote:looking at the wagons from day 1, i can only see the 2 main ones on Galron and Wayward Son. There was a minor one later on on me that had 3 people on it - 2 of whom are dead and the other was NJAC
Galron (4): Salsabil Faria, NJAC, Shiidaji, MalcolmTucker
that was Galron's
Wayward Son (5): Porkens, ProfessorDrapion, Galron, Shiidaji, Salsabil Faria, MalcolmTucker (Hammer)
that was the hammer
All 4 on Galron either ended up on Watward Son - Town, or me - Also Town (yes yes, i knwo you lot don't know that but i do).
Those 4 would be where i would suggest there is a much higher chance of there being scum than not.In post 986, NJAC wrote:
Can you please summarize your case on Galron?In post 943, KittyTacky wrote:I think whoever steered the wagon away from Galron is scum with Galron.
VOTE: GalronIn post 1003, NJAC wrote:
Why is Galron town?In post 1002, ProfessorDrapion wrote:I’m town and I think Galron is town so it’s kinda sad he thinks I’m wolf.
These also don’t look like NJAC is paired with Galron.In post 1000, NJAC wrote:
Can you please state what was your case against Professor? I don't remember you voting him.In post 994, Galron wrote:I feel like I'm starting to tunnel Prof to the exclusion of everyone else.
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Pretty sure it’s just them or Suji hard bussed.
Its definitely not Porkens
As soon previously I don’t think it’s ever Galron either.
I think Gera and Malcolm are more town then not but again still conflicting on both.
Then Shii or whatever their name is still gives me odd vibes, plus you could argue Shii didn’t think the wagon would take off the way it did and they were only voting NJAC as a distancing tactic or something. They could just be town but I don’t quite remember their entirety of their case on NJAC nor do I recall much mention regarding them day 1 where as I have had serval interactions with NJAC and so has Galron, again I don’t think Galron is Mafia.
As for Salsa well…
I already explained I think they are a wolf.
I explained how both wagonomics and socially think they are a wolf.
The only valid argument for them being town I can see or a counter point to Galron thing is that NJAC sheeped Salsa but keep in mind there is a big difference from an early game early day sheep then a late game and/or late day sheep.
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In post 1222, Salsabil Faria wrote:I'll try to come back before deadline but I'll be busy, so no promises.
VOTE: geraintm
E-2In post 1277, Salsabil Faria wrote:The f**k!
UNVOTE: NJAC
Btw, why did you checkKittyout of all players? I just read your ISO, you didn’t thought of scum!Kittythat much!In post 1280, Salsabil Faria wrote:BTW, I can't risk no-elimination,@Kitty, vote with me...
VOTE: geraintm
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Like there is no content by their hammer.
It’s like they hammered cause they felt like they had to.
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In post 195, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 190, ProfessorDrapion wrote:If Salsa is a wolf I think based on thread, they have to be a wolf with one of NJAC/Malcolm.Really? Scum!me is makingobvious associationwith my partners instead of creating distance.... What a good player I am!
Wolfy Post Involving NJAC early Day 1In post 212, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 202, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
On the dude I’ve been pushing.In post 200, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 196, ProfessorDrapion wrote:You don’t have to be a wolf to push back to back ML.
But youCanbe a wolf with that agenda in mind.Where. Is. Your. Vote. Genius?Your pushing onNJACisn't going anywhere and you're pushing me now by shadingMalcolm.
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In post 415, Salsabil Faria wrote:@Professor,after reading your &NJAC'sISO together, your reason to scumreadNJACseemstype of thing to me or you scumread them 1st then forming the read around it.My read can't be wrong
Spoiler: NJAC vs Professor
Then you stated yourMalcolmsuspicion in 171 (I have a question for you in that matter, beforegeraintmsaid anything, do you also think their vote in 72 was random?) but didn’t explain the reasoning even after people asked you about it but agree withgeraintmin 321. Then you made an associative read on me with one ofNJAC&Malcolm. After that you did nothing about it.
Then suddenly you stated your scumread onWaywardin 406 withNJACby agreeing withPorkensor after askingNJACaboutWaywardin 354 (you asked a similar question toNJACaboutKittyin 379, why notNJAC&Kittyare scums according to your logic for scumreadingNJAC?) without giving any reasoning. In 324 you're aiming forWayward's scum flip will clearGalronbut whatGalrondid so far that you're giving them pass overWayward? In 335 you said you thinkMalcolmvWaywardis TvS, so what changed in between for you to townreadMalcolmnow?
The reason you address in 336 to scumreadWaywardalso applied toKitty, right?
In 339, you again addressGalronvWaywardisn’t SvS while you keep townreadingPorkens. Do you open their ISO? All they did so far is posting NAI/mechanics stuffs, staying under radar and placed agut voteonWayward. Don’t you think for a player who joined 2008, all of these are very odd?
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