Nope! I would really appreciate if someone can make a summary for me with bullet points of all, calims, big wagons, etc., preferably with links to the relevant page/post.In post 1932, furtiveglance wrote: Welcome DragonEater70. Have you read any of the game?
Okay interesting. Can I ask why everyone mass claimed? And do goons turn up as vanilla or no vanilla in Neapolitan investigation?In post 1936, furtiveglance wrote: 3 VT and 1 Vig-type role are dead.
T3 and STD claim Masons.
Enchant claims Neapolitan with Brickwall NV.
Brickwall claims Psychologist.
Not_Mafia claims Bodyguard.
Everyone else claims VT.
Yeah, obviously you can't confirm or deny anything as a mod.In post 1943, Alianna wrote:In post 1938, DragonEater70 wrote: Okay that is a really weird role.
Do you believe it's unlikely Alianna would include obscure roles on the setup? (sorry of these questions are not allowed, but I didn't see anything against them so I decided to ask)You're allowed to ask those questions, and you're free to speculate about that topic. I'm just not allowed to answer those questions or confirm/deny any of your speculations.
Fair enough. Guess I have a bit of research to do, so it might take a while before I can give some serious content.In post 1942, furtiveglance wrote:I think the actual result is Vanilla Townie or not Vanilla Townie.In post 1939, DragonEater70 wrote:Okay interesting. Can I ask why everyone mass claimed? And do goons turn up as vanilla or no vanilla in Neapolitan investigation?In post 1936, furtiveglance wrote: 3 VT and 1 Vig-type role are dead.
T3 and STD claim Masons.
Enchant claims Neapolitan with Brickwall NV.
Brickwall claims Psychologist.
Not_Mafia claims Bodyguard.
Everyone else claims VT.I don't want to do that!In post 1940, DragonEater70 wrote: Could you please link to where individual people claimed, if it's not too much of a hassle? Otherwise I'll probably look for it myself but it would be a bit of a pain.
Yeah I agree. Tbh the mason/bodyguard claims feel the scummiest on the surface but I should probably do a bit more reading before jumping to conclusions.In post 1947, T3 wrote: All the PR claims can’t be true. Otherwise the setup would have very likely been denied by the reviewers. This is unless scum have some insane powers.
Played one game on this site so far, played a bunch of Epicmafia and Avalon in the past.In post 1957, Firebringer wrote: What is your experience in mafia
Hi I'm the new Eiralox. Why are we massclaiming?In post 1866, Enchant wrote:1. Dionysus (Novice 1-Shot Vigilante)
2. T3 (Mason)
3. Not_Mafia (Simple Bodyguard)
4. Alchemist21 (VT)
5. Enchant (Neapolitan)
6. Frogsterking (VT)
7. Eiralox (...)
8. Save The Dragons (Mason)
9. Cephrir (VT)
10. Cat Scratch Fever (VT)
11. Firebringer (Jester)
12. Brickwalll (Even-Night Psychologist)
13. furtiveglance (...)
I presumed Masons to be town for now. While it can be fakeclaimed, it's high risk high-reward and will be selfresolved.
Furtive did you claim.
Also i would like real Firebringer role.
And wait when we have new Eiralox.
Why the exclusion?In post 1834, Enchant wrote:I excluded NM, Eira and then tossed dice.In post 1830, Cephrir wrote:earth to enchantIn post 1792, Cephrir wrote: @brick why did you target CSF
@enchant why did you target brick and what is your modifier
@masons did you crumb and what does your pt look like
come in, enchant
I don't want to claim modifier.
In post 1968, Cephrir wrote:
@dragoneater
-how will you deal with your inevitable war against save the dragons (i do not think he would be on board with eating them)
I really hate that the posting rate stayed highIn post 115, Frogsterking wrote:I can do that tbh, especially since you posted this. I know the rate of my posting is intense and I can taper it down gradually from here. I think the beginning of these games have a lot of clues as to the scum team so I like to get a massive jump out of the gate.In post 114, Alchemist21 wrote:It would be very helpful to me personally if the game's post count stayed low. I don't want to come home from work and have the game feel more like a chore than a game because there's a mountain of new pages.In post 16, Frogsterking wrote: Do you think there's a cost to posting even though there's no post limit? Should we be trying to keep our post counts low?
Also fuck it, I think alchemist is town. If these are scum posts then this dude is as cool as a cucumber.
In post 953, Alchemist21 wrote:Your lazy sheep vote isn’t really an attempt to catch mafia.In post 948, Enchant wrote: No like you want me to catch mafia or perform busy work to show i doing something.
Because in first case that's what i am doing. Well. I trying atleast.
Kinda weird on Enchant's side, not sure they are 100% town.In post 957, Enchant wrote:but if i am mafia i performed wellIn post 953, Alchemist21 wrote:Your lazy sheep vote isn’t really an attempt to catch mafia.In post 948, Enchant wrote: No like you want me to catch mafia or perform busy work to show i doing something.
Because in first case that's what i am doing. Well. I trying atleast.
if you are town then i blame frog
Okay this is legit townvibesIn post 964, PenguinPower wrote:Are you feigning the ability to not comprehend words?In post 954, Eiralox wrote:don't like thisIn post 946, PenguinPower wrote: I meant specifically wrt assessing yourself, not overall
why should enchant be read by their unreliability in assessing themselves? (?????)
seems like word salad for the sake of framing to me
here ya go in an easy-to-digest version:
i say "enchant no do stuff"
enchant say "nuh-uh, i do stuff"
i say "what enchant say about enchant unreliable"
enchant say "why try if unreliable"
i say "i only talk about what enchant say about self not what enchant say about others"
that help? do I need to use smaller words?
Pretty towny.In post 972, PenguinPower wrote:I don't have a suspicion. <---There it's on record!In post 969, Eiralox wrote:You're being obtuse.In post 964, PenguinPower wrote:Are you feigning the ability to not comprehend words?In post 954, Eiralox wrote:don't like thisIn post 946, PenguinPower wrote: I meant specifically wrt assessing yourself, not overall
why should enchant be read by their unreliability in assessing themselves? (?????)
seems like word salad for the sake of framing to me
here ya go in an easy-to-digest version:
i say "enchant no do stuff"
enchant say "nuh-uh, i do stuff"
i say "what enchant say about enchant unreliable"
enchant say "why try if unreliable"
i say "i only talk about what enchant say about self not what enchant say about others"
that help? do I need to use smaller words?
The entire premise of your supposition is that Enchant isn't trying, this is you belief plastered onto their conduct, and when they counter this your only retort is 'you are unreliable, therefore my initial point stands and what I'm saying is right because I said you're unreliable'
therefore
word salad for the sake of framing.
Enchant is, in fact, trying. There Alchemist vote, them sticking with it, is more effort me or Dionysus have done in a while.
So basically: You're bad cos I say you're bad enchant, and whatever you say back is wrong, cos I say you're unreliabe.
try harder water bird
I want Enchant to participate...like I said.
Keep making shit up.
In post 975, PenguinPower wrote: Eiralox either has the brain cell count of a prokaryote or is scum failing really hard and crafting a false narrative...unsure which
I like the balls on that one, feels a bit townie. Enchant is still null in my eyes.In post 967, Enchant wrote:Not reallyIn post 963, Alchemist21 wrote:Who are your actual scumreads right now?In post 961, Enchant wrote:if i see someone to vote insteadIn post 958, Eiralox wrote: Okay then.
Enchant, Alchemist says they're not mafia. That gonna make you unvote?
This interaction for example is ++scum for Ceph and +town for EnchantIn post 575, Enchant wrote:Well i can troll you further, but you mostly troll yourself already.In post 568, Cephrir wrote: I truly don't understand how my posts generated zero enchant votes nor even a response from enchant
Am I invisible
Interesting. I was actually scumming you, ceph, and enchant/NM.In post 2024, furtiveglance wrote: I think Cephrir and NM are scum with either Enchant or Firebringer. I'll vote with T3 today but I think the more interesting thing will be who other players motion towards voting.
You probably right.In post 2035, Firebringer wrote: but i really think the team is Enchant/Cephrir/Not_Mafia at this point but i think thats lazy and Cephrir and enchant are really trying to do anti association this page for some reason.
Unless mafia WIFOMs and kills someone else?In post 2044, Firebringer wrote: also if we get scum today and Not_Mafia doesn't die tomorrow protecting t3. we have to 100% elim him tomorrow
TBH if that's true we're fucked because we have two jesters calling us clodpoles on our team.In post 2045, Enchant wrote:You+Ceph+FurtiveIn post 2042, Firebringer wrote: enchant ill counter ur ask of who is ur team with a "who is scum team to u" because u don't seem to consider cephrir.
Who is scum
Cool so if we randomly eliminate between the remaining 5 it's a 3/5 to get scum, which isn't very good.In post 2047, furtiveglance wrote:T3 is Mason and Eiralox/DragonEater have both felt really town. So it's pretty obvious that we have the same PoE.In post 2037, Firebringer wrote:its scary when i agree with furtiveIn post 2024, furtiveglance wrote: I think Cephrir and NM are scum with either Enchant or Firebringer. I'll vote with T3 today but I think the more interesting thing will be who other players motion towards voting.
I actually lol'd.In post 2049, Enchant wrote:Sure thingIn post 2048, Firebringer wrote:u don't even seem to scumread cephrir on this page my dude. Try again.In post 2045, Enchant wrote:You+Ceph+FurtiveIn post 2042, Firebringer wrote: enchant ill counter ur ask of who is ur team with a "who is scum team to u" because u don't seem to consider cephrir.
Who is scum
You+Ceph+Furtive
Can I just say one thing? On D3 somebody asked me to explain my Brickwall townread and I started writing an explanation and then Enchant hammered and I was like wtf and ended up not submitting it. I was soooo upset.In post 2050, Firebringer wrote:i disagree with u on dragoneater but i am not really barking up that tree at second.In post 2047, furtiveglance wrote: T3 is Mason and Eiralox/DragonEater have both felt really town. So it's pretty obvious that we have the same PoE.
but i didn't include u so theres that while u include me.
Well, fair point but then could you prove it to me or T3?In post 2058, Enchant wrote: I am not sure why i should prove to you that you are mafia actually.
Can you explain your conclusion here?
IDK Fire just quickly changing from Enchant to some other team without any real explanation feels weird here.In post 2068, Firebringer wrote: could it be furtive/not_mafia/cephrir?
Give us a reason to go for Ceph instead please.In post 2074, Enchant wrote:You could do that, but what if you don't.In post 2071, DragonEater70 wrote:Interesting. I was actually scumming you, ceph, and enchant/NM.In post 2024, furtiveglance wrote: I think Cephrir and NM are scum with either Enchant or Firebringer. I'll vote with T3 today but I think the more interesting thing will be who other players motion towards voting.
Should we go for Enchant then?
Good point, I unvoted.In post 2083, Firebringer wrote:well the spicy thing about this is if both me and enchant are town here than scum have their choice of picking quick hammer when they organize in PT.In post 2076, Alianna wrote:
If enchant and dragoneater is only town same applies would just mean i have to coordinate with a scumteam to quick vote enchant.
spicy
Well that makes sense tbh, people here are very scummy honestly. Why can't the town guys be a bit townier ffs?In post 2090, Firebringer wrote:to me ur the least likely scum in this game not named t3 but that doesn't mean townie.In post 2088, DragonEater70 wrote:Can I just say one thing? On D3 somebody asked me to explain my Brickwall townread and I started writing an explanation and then Enchant hammered and I was like wtf and ended up not submitting it. I was soooo upset.In post 2050, Firebringer wrote:i disagree with u on dragoneater but i am not really barking up that tree at second.In post 2047, furtiveglance wrote: T3 is Mason and Eiralox/DragonEater have both felt really town. So it's pretty obvious that we have the same PoE.
but i didn't include u so theres that while u include me.
not even a hard bar to clear but i don't find townie easy at this point.
Actually yes.In post 2092, Enchant wrote:First time?In post 2088, DragonEater70 wrote:Can I just say one thing? On D3 somebody asked me to explain my Brickwall townread and I started writing an explanation and then Enchant hammered and I was like wtf and ended up not submitting it. I was soooo upset.In post 2050, Firebringer wrote:i disagree with u on dragoneater but i am not really barking up that tree at second.In post 2047, furtiveglance wrote: T3 is Mason and Eiralox/DragonEater have both felt really town. So it's pretty obvious that we have the same PoE.
but i didn't include u so theres that while u include me.
I'm not sure because they stopped voting you and started pushing other players.In post 2096, Enchant wrote:It was lie/joke
Really? I have never heard of these rules tbh. I am fairly new though.In post 2097, Firebringer wrote:Scum never quick vote in ELO.
Basic mafia rules.
I think even dumb scum enchant would play by these basics.
I was talking less about proving you are town and more about proving Fire/Ceph/Furtive are the scum team.In post 2101, Enchant wrote:I am not fan of selftowncasing and i am terrible in it but i am obvious town and i am not sure how you fail to see soIn post 2091, DragonEater70 wrote:Well, fair point but then could you prove it to me or T3?In post 2058, Enchant wrote: I am not sure why i should prove to you that you are mafia actually.
YeahIn post 2105, Firebringer wrote:He asking u to case me, not urself.In post 2101, Enchant wrote:I am not fan of selftowncasing and i am terrible in it but i am obvious town and i am not sure how you fail to see soIn post 2091, DragonEater70 wrote:Well, fair point but then could you prove it to me or T3?In post 2058, Enchant wrote: I am not sure why i should prove to you that you are mafia actually.
IDK, winning with quickhammer feels a bit... cheaty? And... unfun? If I were mafia I would like to win by outsmarting town, not by randomly having one townie vote another and quickhammering.In post 2123, Enchant wrote:It's not rules, it's fact that if mafia votes someone they lock self and person voted instead of hooping that townie votes townie and win with quickhammerIn post 2122, DragonEater70 wrote:Really? I have never heard of these rules tbh. I am fairly new though.In post 2097, Firebringer wrote:Scum never quick vote in ELO.
Basic mafia rules.
I think even dumb scum enchant would play by these basics.
Yes? Please do tell me what is your reasoning for this scum team. I'm intrigued.In post 2127, Enchant wrote:UuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughIn post 2124, DragonEater70 wrote:I was talking less about proving you are town and more about proving Fire/Ceph/Furtive are the scum team.In post 2101, Enchant wrote:I am not fan of selftowncasing and i am terrible in it but i am obvious town and i am not sure how you fail to see soIn post 2091, DragonEater70 wrote:Well, fair point but then could you prove it to me or T3?In post 2058, Enchant wrote: I am not sure why i should prove to you that you are mafia actually.
So do you scum Fire just for feelings?In post 2131, Enchant wrote: I actually don't have anything but my feelings
But you just said he's scum!In post 2134, Enchant wrote: i agree that you are town as shit
Who's your scumteam now? Yesterday you said it was Brickwall and Enchant.In post 2133, Cephrir wrote: im town as shit you just have blinders on
Is that even allowed? Isn't that playing againt your wincon?In post 2140, Firebringer wrote:ur new here but Not_mafia always hammers as every alignment. It doesn't mean almost anything unfortunately.In post 2136, DragonEater70 wrote:So do you scum Fire just for feelings?In post 2131, Enchant wrote: I actually don't have anything but my feelings
Don't you think NM is likelier scum considering their awful hammers have helped scum more than town this game?
He is probably scum but everyone knows he will always hammer
True. Which kinda confirms NM as scum IMO.In post 2148, Firebringer wrote: tbh if not mafia was town here that would be the play to make.
all three scum vote one player and wait for Not mafia to hammer
IDK, I think if we voted out Enchant then Ceph we might've had NM die during the night protecting one of us and then that would leave Furtive. But this quickhammer coordinated strat is fucking annoying and gamey.In post 2174, Firebringer wrote: i know this is terrible self justification on voting not mafia.
but i probably would have voted not mafia in the next day anyways even if we got cephrir today.
Yeah if there was actual time for discussion I would have also gone for Enchant, Furtive, and Ceph.In post 2185, Save The Dragons wrote: had the entire mafia in my poe of 4, would have gone after furtive or enchant for sure and would have tried to swing my weight around to get one of those two limmed.
Yeah that was so funnyIn post 2205, Enchant wrote: Me trying to explain my reads as mafia when i can't do this even as town:
I mean I didn't even know about that, but then when Fire brought it up I did unvote and only FoS'd Furtive. If only Fire went by his own philosophy we could've limmed Enchant/Furtive today.In post 2201, PenguinPower wrote: I mean - that’s why you don’t vote in Elo until you’re ready to end it.
Yeah I get why. But still. ArrrgghhIn post 2199, Firebringer wrote:True, this is my bad. I was holding out on hope that i was wrong on Cephrir. I really didn't want to elim towncephrir todayIn post 2198, DragonEater70 wrote:IDK, I think if we voted out Enchant then Ceph we might've had NM die during the night protecting one of us and then that would leave Furtive. But this quickhammer coordinated strat is fucking annoying and gamey.In post 2174, Firebringer wrote: i know this is terrible self justification on voting not mafia.
but i probably would have voted not mafia in the next day anyways even if we got cephrir today.