In post 7, humaneatingmonkey wrote: VOTE: sheepsaysmeep
projection. this guy is the real wolf among sheep.
But how would you know?
VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
In post 7, humaneatingmonkey wrote: VOTE: sheepsaysmeep
projection. this guy is the real wolf among sheep.
Do you think page 1 *wagons* are serious?
In post 19, Quiet Owl wrote:the man-eater is fine. it is odd to see a wagon form on page one though, and particularly odd that you took that so personally so quickly. why is your immediate response an attempt to discredit me and then deflect my point by misinterpreting it?In post 18, Random Nurse wrote:Do you think page 1 *wagons* are serious?
What I do wonder is why you appear concerned for humaneatingmonkey.
So, reading this, I'm interpreting this as a deflection, because you didn't actually respond to my question about what you meant by him being "fine." I'd like you to simply explain what you meant instead of not actually answering me.In post 37, Quiet Owl wrote:oh that's a good logical post, this'll be a fun game. was getting really tired of having to read through walls of fluff in other ones.In post 24, Random Nurse wrote:In post 19, Quiet Owl wrote:the man-eater is fine. it is odd to see a wagon form on page one though, and particularly odd that you took that so personally so quickly. why is your immediate response an attempt to discredit me and then deflect my point by misinterpreting it?In post 18, Random Nurse wrote:Do you think page 1 *wagons* are serious?
What I do wonder is why you appear concerned for humaneatingmonkey.
Guess I'm trying to parse through what you mean by he's "fine."
Doesn't sound like you've been playing that long if you think three same votes on page 1 is odd, tbf.
What does kind of ping my radar is you saying it was taken personally—could you share where, because this does sound like you're adding something that isn't there.
Again, it seems like you're adding things by saying I'm attempting to discredit you. Three same votes on page 1 does not a wagon make, and they are rarely if ever serious.
And what I said to you, Sir, is that it appears to me that you are concerned over HEM's safety. That's just how it seems to me so if you react defensively I can't help that.
"what you mean by he's "fine."" my lawyer has advised me not to comment further. he's me in a suit. he's demanding a raise. our budget doesn't allow for this. he may go on strike halfway through the game
"taken personally, you're adding something that isn't there" that's true actually. mostly, my original post wasn't directly addressed at anyone, so i wasn't expecting it to get jumped on that fast. pleasant surprise that it did
"attempting to discredit you" did not like the tone of "Do you think page 1 *wagons* are serious?". seemed more like "hey this post is 100% definitely silly and irrelevant, trust me and ignore it immediately" to me rather than "this is a flawed and suspicious assumption". the first is a lot more scum-typical.
"concerned over HEM's safety" more focused on poking people over votes at the moment. way more interesting. occasionally things explode!
On this point do you read Quiet Owl as being defensive in our interactions?In post 36, Espeonage wrote: Of course Mafia get defensive, but the main focus of a mafia, especially a new mafia is to not make waves. So the vibe check says dumb town.
What makes you think that's aggression?In post 51, sheepsaysmeep wrote: random nurse's aggression is probably villager
In post 51, sheepsaysmeep wrote: I think owl start is slightly more likely wolf.
IIRC HEM had 3 votes at this time.In post 66, Espeonage wrote: Monkey's eagerness to control the game feels scum-motivated. And this is only exacerbated by the fact that they have really gone hard on the proverbial low hanging fruit.
The lining up of lynches is also always something I am watchful of. In both cases, if owl is town, monkey is just being negligent if town, and if owl is scum it's a very aggressive theater strat. The common thread being that monkey lining up lynches is poo poo.
vote: humaneatingmonkey
In my opinion your posts are kind of surface-level.In post 78, Hu Tao wrote: I like Espeonage so far for being town. I've had that thought before of scum doing the lining up thing.
To be frank I wish there was more substance to this post besides feelings.In post 83, Doctor Drew wrote:I feel really good about Owl being town.In post 81, sheepsaysmeep wrote: oh wait yeah meh I found it, HEM calls espeonage a potential partner to owl
There is AT LEAST one scum in Esp/Hu
Bella is the wildcard, feel like they are informed.
As is I'm not convinced.In post 85, Doctor Drew wrote: Esp wants to control the game, but is projecting it onto Monkey.
In post 84, sheepsaysmeep wrote: can u explain those more? I think theyre weird
My gut doesn't like this because it comes off as standing in the background trying to look busy.In post 87, sheepsaysmeep wrote: ok I like those a lot actually I think
The brief tonal shift strikes me as odd.In post 106, Espeonage wrote:You ain't no bogeyman. You're just scummy.Don't discredit discourse bc you're offended.
I would also add not to forget the existence of Town aggression.In post 110, humaneatingmonkey wrote:bumping this very good questionIn post 102, Quiet Owl wrote: and the distinction you make between idiotic aggression and scum aggression is...?
Contribution isn't AI though.In post 183, sheepsaysmeep wrote: what makes me bad town here
I think ive contributed relatively substantially
In post 188, Random Nurse wrote:On this point do you read Quiet Owl as being defensive in our interactions?In post 36, Espeonage wrote: Of course Mafia get defensive, but the main focus of a mafia, especially a new mafia is to not make waves. So the vibe check says dumb town.
In post 192, Random Nurse wrote:IIRC HEM had 3 votes at this time.In post 66, Espeonage wrote: Monkey's eagerness to control the game feels scum-motivated. And this is only exacerbated by the fact that they have really gone hard on the proverbial low hanging fruit.
The lining up of lynches is also always something I am watchful of. In both cases, if owl is town, monkey is just being negligent if town, and if owl is scum it's a very aggressive theater strat. The common thread being that monkey lining up lynches is poo poo.
vote: humaneatingmonkey
Could it be reaching for low-hanging fruit adding a fourth vote at this time?
In post 198, Random Nurse wrote:The brief tonal shift strikes me as odd.In post 106, Espeonage wrote:You ain't no bogeyman. You're just scummy.Don't discredit discourse bc you're offended.
All I can say is that I do have experience with Mafia.In post 217, Dunnstral wrote: How much experience do you have with mafia Random Nurse?
You shouldn't be so resistant in answering one of my three posts, Espeonage.In post 310, Espeonage wrote: Such a profound and game defining question from so not long ago. I sure hope this allows you to game solve in a way previously unavailable.
But... Now wait a minute.In post 318, Quiet Owl wrote: being scumread for being absent due to a nasty cold is generally a universally frustrating experience.
I *DO* like this catch here.In post 498, Dunnstral wrote:In post 465, T3 wrote: A loose summary of my thoughts:
Dunnstral’s posts about Drew seemed pretty weird, especially how Dunnstral defended Drew from Quiet Owl. He didn’t properly engage with Quiet Owl’s point about Drew. Then the way he said “maybe we should hold off on voting Drew” because of Peregrine’s defense of Drew also felt weird and not really genuine.
Speaking of posts that didn’t feel genuine, basically nothing HEM has posted has seemed genuine at all and I how it seems like HEM is trying to establish control over the thread.
STD is an odd slot, his questioning of Dunnstral pinged me as town but nothing else really stood out to me as towny.
Espeonage pinged me as very towny and if I had replaced into some other slot then he would be my top townread. I mindmelded with him on a few occasions. So sue me
Sheep is probably my strongest townread, I liked the way he waffled around his read of Espeonage(?, I forgot who ), it seemed genuine. The one reservation I have is that sheep seems like a player who is always able to sound genuine but I’ll worry about that later.
I think the problem with Hu Tao’s catch-up is that *all* she did in said catchup was defend herself rather than actually provide decent reads. She tried to cover for that by saying “oh, nothing happened in those past few pages” which just struck me as weird.
Owl has been towny. I liked their case of HEM and Drew. Not much else to say here.Similar story for bob.
Drew has been passive, not really in a town or scum way. I don’t scumread him individually but I thought that Dunnstral’s interaction with him could be s/s.
I have not properly read Nurse’s or Peregrine’s posts.
I know this is a lot of scumreads and some less confident townreads. I’ll live! And I’ll (hopefully) get a better read on Nurse/Peregrine.You are not going to even try to vote for someone else?
In post 1325, DkKoba wrote:and his presence only helped you because there is an inherent bias against him by other players lolIn post 1317, Random Nurse wrote: Not Mafia was poison to the Town: he helped us quite a bit.
Kudos to my teammates for carrying the win.