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Vla today will catchup later

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im reading the game again

I don't think that quiet owl's aggro-ness comes from scum, same for random nurse. i think it's likely tvt to get scrappy this early.

espeonage's accusation that hem is lining up lims is a little weird, i think that's extremely misinterpreting what hem said, but againt that could be town.

this game is moving pretty fast. i feel like a couple people have said a bit of nothing these first few pages, but that includes me since i was away.

this is up to page 3

page 4: 83 is kind of weird and i like sheep for calling it out. i don't know yet if i'm satisfied with the explanations in 85. especially regarding bella, and the high equity one of esp/hu is scum. disagree with sheep who seems okay with them.

i kind of like espeonage in page 4 and 5. this is more of a gut read but it feels like they're town, even if i don't agree that calling out two names == setting up elims.

not a fan of bob's posts

6 onward i like dunnstral so far this game

i think i'm here, dark green being the towniest

Bellaphant

Doctor Drew

Random Nurse

bob3141

Dunnstral

Peregrine

Espeonage

Quiet Owl

Not_Mafia

sheepsaysmeep

Hu Tao

humaneatingmonkey

VOTE: Dr. Drew for now

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i think the posts espeonage is making seem more off the cuff and less calculated.

Dunnstral's a difficult read for me so take it with a grain of salt, it just feels different from scum dunnstral. dunnstral in TM was kind of slinking in the background and here dunn feels more engaged.

sheep hu and peregrine i want more from before i decide

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do you feel that you are engaged this game

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VOTE: sheep

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i feel like town sheep is more present

i find myself agreeing with people about sheep and i want to see if there's taste there for a sheep wagon

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catching up now

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i feel like town sheep is more present

I think this is factually incorrect

can you link a recent town game?

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why

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Dragon vote is odd, i can certainly see him not voting espe based on his read list but if he was to move his vote of drew i would of expected it to move to me first. He paints me and drew most likely to be scum yet he goes to one his neut reads.

my reads are in flux, sheep's gone down and you've gone up.

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I really don't like Hu's catch up here.

Very defensive and discrediting.

i agree with this but i've seen town Hu Tao act this way so i'm a little wary of calling it scummy atm

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regards to espe

i still think espe is town. i feel like 300 is exactly the half assed idgaf analysis you'd get from a pressured town, scum would try harder to look townie. i'd still like to see more from him but i have to go back to my original read of feeling liberated to say whatever, not calculated. i could be wrong about this but that's what i feel atm.

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Bellaphant

Doctor Drew

Random Nurse

bob3141

Dunnstral

Peregrine

Espeonage

Quiet Owl

Not_Mafia

sheepsaysmeep

Hu Tao

humaneatingmonkey

is where i'm currently at i think?

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i feel like town sheep is more present

I think this is factually incorrect

can you link a recent town game?

wouldnt a mafia game where I was very present be what ur looking for here lol

viewtopic.php?t=91038 - last game we played together, town, I think I was very apathetic
viewtopic.php?t=91019 - town, apathetic

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ur-Power-1 - mafia game, completely different site context, but I was in the top couple posters each day

I just think it's weird to suggest that my uninvolvement is alignment-related for me. I just find this game deeply unappetizing

it's not necessarily whether you're apathetic or not, it's more of a vibe where i expect you to do more. i dunno it's possible uninvolvement isn't alignment indicative. i just felt like you made some nothing posts and i guess i'm trying to see where it comes from.

i didn't really pay much attention to the game we just played together but i wanted town games to compare your town to this, i remember some of your recent scum games we've played together in.

let me think about it some, it doesn't seem like anyone else agrees so i'm gonna UNVOTE: for now.

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Bellaphant

Doctor Drew

Random Nurse

bob3141

Dunnstral

Peregrine

Espeonage

Quiet Owl

Not_Mafia

sheepsaysmeep

Hu Tao

humaneatingmonkey

Bellaphant

Doctor Drew

Random Nurse

bob3141

Dunnstral

Peregrine

Espeonage

Quiet Owl

Not_Mafia

sheepsaysmeep

Hu Tao

humaneatingmonkey

Bellaphant - no change. nothing to really go off of.

Dr Drew - went from scum to lean scum. I guess it's just a vibe i was fooled by Dr. Drew in Boons ahoy and i want to be wary of the slot so i'm leaning scum more than i normally would but it's not really predicated on anything other than i'd like to see more from him.

Random Nurse - no change. just seems townie i've liked their pushes they're hunting.

bob3141 - went from scum to null. I'm a little worried about their seeming obsession with me and would like more from them on other slots. i think my scumread was preliminary and some posts pinged me a certain way but i don't remember exactly what so i'm comfortable putting bob in the null area

Dunnstral - went from town to null. my townread was premature. i think dunnstral being engaged is something that could be town indicative but dunnstral's kind of fell off so i don't really know.

Peregrine - went from null to lean town. I think this one is entirely a vibe thing, peregrine barely posted when i made the initial list (I think) and so i put them as null. seeing their posts since then makes me not want to strike there.

Espeonage - I've already discussed.

Quiet Owl - changed from lean town to lean scum. i don't remember exactly why i town read them. their recent posting has not been great. too defensive, too little.

Not_Mafia - no change, i think i can sometimes read not mafia but i'm not there yet.

sheepsaysmeep - went from null to scum. i've gone in depth on this.

hu tao - null to lean town. Went from little posts to more posts. i'm not sold but i'm feeling okay with hu tao, seems a lot like how they behaved in the past two games i played with them where they were town.

humaneatingmonkey - null to lean town. i guess i wasn't really sure where i felt in the first list but by the second list i felt more comfortable with the slot, i believe that hem believes in their conviction. i think they're wrong about espe but i believe they are uninformed towards espe's alignment.

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VOTE: quiet owl

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I don't see how people are reading Hu Tao's recent posts as town. Basically all they did is defend themselves against suspicion and vote the person who voted them. I mean, maybe that doesn't make them mafia, but how are people going from null to town?

because this is exactly how they behaved in previous games with them when they were town

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I don't see how people are reading Hu Tao's recent posts as town. Basically all they did is defend themselves against suspicion and vote the person who voted them. I mean, maybe that doesn't make them mafia, but how are people going from null to town?

because this is exactly how they behaved in previous games with them when they were town

So you're saying that you think I'd be uncapable of doing this as scum? If so, what would be hard to replicate?

i feel you'd be different in a noticeable way

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i don't know

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my pockets are warm and comfy

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Speaking of posts that didn’t feel genuine, basically nothing HEM has posted has seemed genuine at all and I how it seems like HEM is trying to establish control over the thread.

wasn't this espeonage's argument?

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I prefer owl but I'm willing to compromise on T3 because he's been pretty scummy and maybe I'm wrong on espe

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VOTE: t3

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busy today will try to get to this tonight or tomorrow

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Okay so some thoughts

I was going to come in here going for quiet owl for their play D1 but Norwee has kind of assuaged any doubts I have about the slot, norwee is clearly town here

I don't like that bloodb0t has come into the slot and seems fixated only on one thing (hu tao pocketing bob with a tr?) but there's no vote just shade and no commentary on anything else going on.

I don't know how i feel about HEM saying things like "N_M will become more readable with pressure!" he won't.

I've liked bob's posts D2 and haven't liked invisibility's.

VOTE: bloodb0t

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ok

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Dragon can you go into your day one town read of nurse, what made you think that they were hunting? Also what did you think about them pushing for exeuction of one of your 4 town reads

I think asking espe to explain themselves and stuff looked like hunting regardless of how their roles ended up. the second part of your question doesn't mean much to me, i'm well aware i've been wrong before on stuff. it wasn't who RN was "hunting," it was the how

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I really have trouble seeing norwee as scum here

I feel like bloodb0t said "I'm not obsessed! You're obsessed!" Then left the thread so I'm not unhappy with this vote

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I missed that

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compulsive bodyguard is interesting but I believe it.

i want to look at nurse but have been quite busy lately.

I think I'm here?

Invisibility

BloodB0t

bob3141

Peregrine

NorwegianboyEE

Not_Mafia

sheepsaysmeep

Hu Tao

humaneatingmonkey

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Sorry I've fallen behind. Will try to get to this soon.

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i don't really get the role, i'm not sure what the point of it is.

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I don't really get Norwee's plan? doesn't it just prove he has the role or not? can't he just guess what he thinks Norwee is and get it right anyway, thus not even proving anything if he gets it right?

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i think hem is town though. i think the way he posts isn't really calculated and seems more off the cuff

hem who do you townread that you want to hear from regarding claiming your result? for me, i don't know if you need to but you might to appease people, i'm not certain that scum knowing someone is or isn't a bodyguard is really tipping the scales; either the scum want the bg dead now or they're going to avoid that person and probably kill a bg anyway if the bgs are paying attention

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I can confirm I am not

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i think hem is town though. i think the way he posts isn't really calculated and seems more off the cuff

hem who do you townread that you want to hear from regarding claiming your result? for me, i don't know if you need to but you might to appease people, i'm not certain that scum knowing someone is or isn't a bodyguard is really tipping the scales; either the scum want the bg dead now or they're going to avoid that person and probably kill a bg anyway if the bgs are paying attention

Who do you want to vote then? And do you have an updated read on my slot?

I think I'd prefer N_M at this point but i'm struggling. Hu tao would be another good vote I think, I'd like to see them do more tbh.

UNVOTE:

As far as your slot goes, I'm conflicted. It feels like you're hyper focused on HEM which is fine but that was my whole problem with bloodb0t. I know you've made posts that have branched out, though. I think you're always going to seem a little stiff and robotic to me for some reason and because of our history I do want to give you the benefit of the doubt because I always seem to sr you and am usually wrong about it. So I'm mostly unsure.

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VOTE: not_mafia

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UNVOTE:

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let me look at hem again

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

We should do this. Why haven't we done this?

Through what way? I admit I do not know how to play with his slot, yet alone read him.

I don't know. Maybe he is. Really have no way of saying. He doesn't look like he's town, either. Think I'll park my vote here. VOTE: Not_Mafia

i'm thinking a solid stack of votes and the movement around solid stack of votes will make the slot more readable. i don't buy that we won't have any information.

this day 1 vote on N_M doesn't seem congruent with this d2 vote on N_M in the sense that on D1 he doesn't know how to read him but on D2 the slot will be more readable with votes. at first glance this looks a little weird but thinking about it some more it almost feels unagenda'd. scum would reuse their d1 reasoning because it's fake. so i think it's either a bus or hem is town here.

i feel like the HEM from d1 is a little more opportunistic and the hem from d2 could be trying not to spew by going all in on N_M.

although that's not fair, there's stuff like this post:

{Norwee, Bl00dB0t, N_M, Peregrine}

HEM did you say why you have Peregrine in your solve? i kind of want to know this.

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yeah but i'm town

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what did i just say

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you could make an argument for it

or like

make any argument

or like

do anything

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i don't know what your scum game looks like

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i'm saying i think you would appear different from your town game in SOME way. i don't know what way because I don't know what your scum game looks like.

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am i saying that? i don't recall saying that

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VOTE: Not_mafia

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@norwe @std I trust u and would take either a summary from u or just instructions of a vote to follow lol

in case I dont have time to read myself

i don't know. I don't think it's HEM. His WIM is really high.

I'm not in love with a N_M lim but I think it's plausible.

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yeah that's hammer lol

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Mod, you have HEM in your list of players

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Well i'm assuming at least bob got one right lol

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I kind of want N_M at this point

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VOTE: N_M

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UNVOTE:

I'm going to try to think about this game tonight if I can

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Hu Tao who do you actually think is scum

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I don't think massclaim is necessary

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VOTE: Not_mafia

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hi

VOTE: hu tao

i'm VT

the fact that Hu Tao came into this saying "I have a guilty" and not "I could have a guilty" proves this is just bullshit

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why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find

i think it's a weird claim regardless of the supposed guilty on me

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why use a traffic analyst in this setup over a cop if there were no other PTs to find

i think it's a weird claim regardless of the supposed guilty on me

I feel like the NRG or whoever want there to some games where the traffic analyst only gets positive results on scum so that it's never a sure thing that masons or a neighborhood exist or whatever. Still more likely to not be the case but like not totally unlikely

it's fake though but i see your point

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i feel like it's peregrine

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I don't see how I'm catering to invisibility

Peregrine lurked the entire game and came in to hammer on two townies

sheep and invisibility are trying to solve

It's just hu tao and peregrine here

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Also I feel there is a lot ofnposturing and insinuation around my slot but no one seems to be willing to vote me which, knowing that I am town, feels like mafia will want to it are trying to sell others on me for a final elim! (This is mostly for my notes when I read back more!)

This makes no sense, hu Tao and I are literally in a 1 v 1.

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If hu tao were town, they would have not stated they had a guilty, they would have stated they could have had a guilty, because they wouldn't know if there were neighbors or masons.

But I'll do peregrine instead

VOTE: peregrine

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Gg rn and sheep

Thanks for mod kitty

I'll bite my tongue I don't think my comments or advice would be appreciated