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Ok great, at least now I don't have to tinfoil the cop, though I'm so confused about the balance of this game-
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Anyway, hi. I thought I'd read Day 3 to start with, but I came away feeling like I had learned nothing
Then I read the first 20 pages of the game but also mind empty didn't come away with many ideas-
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Why, I love this suggestion. How are we doing claim-wise? Is there a summary of claims somewhere?In post 3916, Dunnstral wrote: I propose a mass claim tomorrow
Does anyone want to try to summarise the game for me while we are at it? Are there any bits I should read first?-
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It occurs to me that someone who is less narcissistic than me would suggest we let the conftown pick the elimination today-
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Ok fab thank youIn post 4523, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Me and Hu Tao conf!town.
Alisae claim miller.
I claimed informed townie that this game only has 1 cop.
Firebringer claimed bodyguard but hasn’t protected anyone.
I suppose there's no way of knowing whether scum has a roleblocker or the fabled strongman or whatever so for me the fact FB has failed to protect anyone doesn't really say much about his alignment (aside from the fact that with me town + 2 conftown he has a pretty high likelihood of being scum regardless)
I like solving games and efforting so we should get along on that front!In post 4525, NorwegianboyEE wrote: I’d like it if we didn’t default to that because that usually makes the game harder for the conf!town since everyone else isn’t solving and just waiting for our decision to sheep.-
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And we're definitely 100% sure Bob has innos on Norwee and Hu Tao right? I don't think it's very likely at all that he lied but lemme just double check what he said before I take these two slots out of my PoE forever.
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Yep im the cop. I counter claimed straight away by saying flav scum or town gambitingIn post 3883, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Are you counterclaiming?In post 3887, bob3141 wrote: n1 norw and n2 hu tao
Ok yeah, there's no way everyone actually misunderstood bob's results. bob had clears on Norwee and Hu Tao. Into the sacred shrine of our conftown overlords you go.In post 3963, bob3141 wrote: Fire with what you know now out of (below) who do you think are the 3 scum
Flavor Leaf, Dunnstral, Roden, Alisae, Random Nurse
Norw clears me and I clear hu and norw and if you were town you would know that you were town
same question to roden
I think the cop dying is a blessing in disguise here, I was going to enter the game on a massive rant about how bob was not at all conftown but this kill just confirms 2 town slots for us for free.-
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(Hello Firebringer. Looks like you're destined to tunnel my slot once more? )In post 3958, Firebringer wrote:
Do tell how my voting history is wolfyIn post 3925, Alisae wrote:
FL and Fire if they're mafia together, would be claiming macho to make fire's claim look more realistic.In post 3921, Dunnstral wrote: How does Flavor claiming macho make Fire mafia? Can you walk me through that
This is something I think FL would realistically do.
I also think Fire's voting history is also just very individually wolfy for him and I think both FL and Fire are just mafia.
Thats how i play with FL always. U saying my actions make no sense is bs. Show me one thing you think doesn't make sense.In post 3926, Alisae wrote: Fire's play to me looks like he's not really trying to do anything that's unnecessary and he's just letting FL do FL.
It's very similar wolfplay to what I've played with.
I also think his actions don't rly make sense, where as town!fire actions do make sense. Fire bleeds town when he is town.
lol noIn post 3929, Alisae wrote: If you bet the game on me and dunnstral being town, this game is over.
i don't think there is a roleblock, i think there is a strongman and I think sakura is a good n1 target for strongman because she is massively townread and a protective will protect her. Which happened here.In post 3934, Alisae wrote: you're telling me bob was also allowed to get results?
If you're mafia you're putting a roleblocker ontop of that shit bro if Fire is town like no I refuse to believe that Fire got roleblocked and their bodyguard on sakura failed, and I refuse to believe that mafia just wouldn't block jason instead
You pretending no one would strongman sakura is lots of bullshit
Roden is townIn post 3939, Alisae wrote: I think the game is PROBABLY
{Fire + Roden + FL}
I need to re-read d2 but I imagine Roden must of caused a huge buzz if day played out the way it did. I need to figure out why but I also might just not even be bothered. I can re-read it in F3 or whatever if I'm alive, and if I'm not, I'm sure Dunn can read it for me. I perfectly trust Dunn to make a good decision.
I thought the tone of this post was interesting. And yes, of course by "interesting" I really mean "scummy". Imo in 1v1s like these, scum tend to use these "no u" arguments more often than town. Like, fundamentally "this is bs" is a pretty empty argument. Imo town is on average more interested in explaining the reasons for their suspicions.-
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I felt kind of ambivalent about Roden slot as I was catching up. I guess that's now Titus. Hi Titus.
I liked the fact that Roden seemed sceptical of the towncore yesterday although I guess it's not hard to see how that's a reaction that could come from scumIn post 4102, Roden wrote: Jason was right, the only way this set up makes sense is if scum were informed and the set up isn't what we think it is
I also kinda liked his air of uncertainty but I guess there's no special reason that's town-indicativeIn post 4079, Roden wrote: I don't know, I can't think of a team that makes sense.
I didn't think that was a particularly scummy statement from Mikhail, so I wasn't sure what had caused the vote. Guess I'll never find out!In post 133, Roden wrote:
VOTE: MikhailIn post 81, MikhailTal wrote: JasonWazza voting me only reinforces that they are town, in my mind.
Yeah I'm aware none of these things are a big deal, but thought I'd do a stream of consciousness kinda thing. And with that goodbye, see you tomorrow-
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Dunn, what’s making you think me town here?-
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I mean… I’ve been away most of the time since RN voted so I wouldn’t so in the RN and fire town world we wouldn’t have been able to quickhammer!In post 4612, Hu Tao wrote: I mean.. There is already at least 1 mafia confirmed in fire and RN right now-
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Bleh that came out wrong but you know what I mean-
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Titus, how is catching up on the game going? Like, how much of it have you been able to read?-
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Dunn is making the most sense to me at the moment; perhaps this will not come as a surprise to anyone reading. I'd still like to take my time and would not say this is a read I am particularly confident in.
Titus's entrance in the game does seem scummy to me. I worry that she's come in presenting such a strong view of the game, with her exact Dunn/Aisa/Nurse solve, and doesn't really hesitate to propose a plan in which she lines up all 3 lims. I'm not sure why she was so keen to pressure Dunn to vote here, not even 24 hours after the game day started. I'm also not sure why she doesn't think her logic should apply to herself. If she's town and scumreads Random Nurse and hasn't voted him yet, wouldn't that, like, prompt a realisation that maybe Dunn has whatever reasons he has to not vote for Nurse right away?
I am also not sure about the part of her VCA where she says that scum wouldn't "buddy" on a wagon and later appears to imply that by "buddying" she only means two scum piling onto a wagon consecutively. If she is town that is a really unfortunately sus series of posts.
Titus, if you're town here I understand it's going to be difficult for you to take me seriously, but. You're coming off as quite certain of your solve for someone who subbed into the game some 3 days ago and I don't really understand how you'd be willing to bet the game on what essentially seems to be VCA + "Nurse wouldn't bus Firebringer" (which is not obvious at all to me). I'd need more context into why you think VCA works so well.-
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I think I’ll reread Day 3 to see if I agree with what Dunn said about slots angling to push Alisae today.
Re: Fire I don’t think I feel safe eliminating him just because of claim weirdness and I’m not sure that’ll meaningfully change if he fails to bodyguard a third time. Just want to get that out there. Maybe I’ll be interested in eliminating him for other reasons though-
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Bonsoir my friends and enemies-
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It's little interjections like this one that sometimes scare me into thinking Roden/Titus are townIn post 4095, Roden wrote: Also I forgot that Alisae's Miller claim looked really good...wtf-
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Yeah I mean that's the logical conclusion from my POV if Titus is town-
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One thought I've held off on for a bit but I guess I'll volunteer now is about scum's positioning today.
Assume Dunn is town. FMPOV that means scumteam is Fire + Titus + Nurse. Fire and Titus have chosen to align themselves really visibly today, which seems like a very risky play to me, because if one of them flips scum the other one immediately comes into question. FB's standing at the start of the day was also pretty poor; it's not like scum think they can immediately openwolf / strongarm a win today because they'll struggle to get the votes to eliminate me or Dunn.
So... (still assuming Dunn is town) what is scum doing today? One option might be that they've decided to bus Random Nurse and kill off Norwee tonight; that tentatively sets up Titus+Firebringer vs me+Dunn, with Hu Tao as kingmaker, which to me seems like a setup with decent odds for scum in this scenario. I'm fully aware I'm getting wayyyy into irresponsible speculation territory but if that's the plan Titus might even have TMIed it a little bit in 2624.
It's also possible that they're just doing some WIFOM play which I also don't hate as an idea.
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But yeah uh the main reason I've brought that up is to explain that I'm worried that Titus/FB/Nurse is too obvious given that their positioning today seems kinda dangerous (despite there being cases where it does turn out well for them)
Which may not have been clear from the previous post-
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I get it I get it
Alisae would know how to get this game back on its feet-
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Every. Single. Post. I have to fight the urge to townread this dudeIn post 4128, Roden wrote: Y'all if you think I'm scum then vote me out today, I don't want to fight in a potential ELO. I am historically terrible in ELO as town.
Who are you and what is this sorcery-
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Yeah I think Dunn is towny too
I suppose the reasoning Fire and Titus have for allying with each other also does seem pretty thin on both sides-
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Yeah. In case anyone is wondering I usually like doing a bit more homework before voting (I have read like almost nothing by FB and Nurse) but I'll let people know when I'm ready-
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Ooh norwee is there a slot of the three you scumread the most or you would start from to eliminate?-
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Day 3 reread completed
I learned a little. Dunn towny. Roden ???, he did disappear a bit as Dunn said
Homework for tomorrow assigned to me by esteemed teacher NorwegianboyEE is to research Firebringer's ISO
Also, massclaim. I think it would be fun, I have no idea if it's +EV. But the downside is low. What's the worst case, we out some protective?-
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Psst do you wanna yolo vote Titus
Whichever alignment she is it will certainly help end the game
I can also live narrate my read of Firebreather's ISO-
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I fully expect Olympic Torch Carrier's ISO to be 400 posts. Let's see if my prediction holds...
Mmm 320 posts? Yummy-
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I'm on isolation #34 and we're still pretty firmly in the existing and vibing and memeing stage of the gameIn post 283, Firebringer wrote: I want to policy elim Sakura Hana
In post 246, Firebringer wrote:
im definitely not town.In post 202, Flavor Leaf wrote: Firebringer
osuka
Roden
Mikailtal
Norwegianboy
Sakura Hana
Alisae
Hu Tao
Random Nurse
JasonWazza
Dunnstral
Takutai
stop being bad flavor leaf
He has however already claimed scum at least twice up to this pointIn post 247, Firebringer wrote:
im mafia millerIn post 239, Alisae wrote: if you claim miller right now you will get a free pass for the rest of the game
NAI.-
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Here we see a wild growlithe in his natural environment, showing off his gregarious natureIn post 291, Firebringer wrote: I dismiss many players perspectives all the time.
(Seems like a good time for a reminder that this is all tongue in cheek. I too dismiss many player's perspective all the time)
(At this point the game has still barely existed for 24 hours)
/in to find out which pokémon NPC I amIn post 376, Firebringer wrote: page 15 hero solve time:
here is the scum team folks, date and time stamp and frame it cause I got the game solved
Alisae - pokemon master
Hua Tau - pokemon novice trainer
JasonWazza - professor oak
Ngl, not too happy about my nicknames for scum team players. Might rethink that one later
I can't tell if this is a serious post or not-
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WHYIn post 4690, Aisa wrote: many player's perspective-
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I looked at the post above this one hoping that he trueclaimed his scumbuddy.
Unfortunately he was sheeping my slot. No luck this time! But I will be disappointed if I do not see BF trueclaiming his partner by the end of this ISO.
Wouldn't this POV make a lot of sense if the alignments were reversed this time?In post 412, Firebringer wrote: ngl i kind of want revenge on dunn for team mafia.
i could have had him on day 1 and then i got tripped up on how he responded to me
Yeah this live narration format isn't great for actual scumhunting, I can feel myself basically just conf biasing with every post I write
We're STILL barely 24 hours after the game started though so maybe it gets juicier later on
For now I haven't found anything that I think scum FB couldn't fake-
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In post 415, Firebringer wrote: don't actually think a pressure wagon on dunn to produce reads is all that useful from my experience. I think im better at reading him when i just see his natural posting and examine it.
I say that while having lost him in tm tho. So grains of salt
Hmm. He doesn't really seem to know what he wants. These posts were less than 24 hours apart. Objectively probably doesn't mean much but remember, I'm not being objective here, I'm confbiasing, so obviously this is irrefutable proof that FB is scum!!In post 677, Firebringer wrote: not sure why we moved off dunnstral if the point was to get him to solving when he came in.
got nothing out of what he has posted so far
Ok skipping ahead a bit so I don't flood the thread with fluff, FB then continues to vote for Dunn on Day 1, apparently together with other players, to pressure Dunn. He says he doesn't have a lot of time to play the game (rip). Doesn't really offer much int he way of explanation for his reads, except saying that he townleans Norwee/Alisae (my slot)/Sakura and he's fine putting pressure on a bunch of to her slots. Cool ok well let's keep reading
It would be lovely to know whyIn post 1377, Firebringer wrote:
In Dunnstral/Jason/Tak/Nurse/Hu TaoIn post 1375, Sakura Hana wrote: @Firepup: who is scum.
I lean more on Dunnstral/Jason right now as top contenders
Oh wonderful! We do get to find out why.In post 1545, Firebringer wrote:
your empty posting. Where r u readsIn post 1395, Dunnstral wrote:
Why am I aIn post 1390, Firebringer wrote: why is dunnstral a bad push?goodpush?
The rest of his ISO so far is also like this, I'm on isolation 150 and sometimes he does explain his reads. Briefly. In pretty generic terms
"Why do you think I'm town?" "Oh, your progression makes sense"
In post 2166, Firebringer wrote:
and mine isn't?In post 2165, Random Nurse wrote: Is it just me, or does Roden's vote seem rather opportunistic?
Ok, look: I'm trying veeeerry hard to be objective here. Incredibly hard.In post 2171, Firebringer wrote:
Ohh good. Wouldn't want roden to outshine me.In post 2170, Random Nurse wrote:
It does seem rather opportunistic too, tbh.In post 2166, Firebringer wrote:
and mine isn't?In post 2165, Random Nurse wrote: Is it just me, or does Roden's vote seem rather opportunistic?
Did u check out my previous scum game yet
And then,
this
sweet
interaction
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Ok I'm gonna call it a night now. I'll probably finish reading FB's ISO tomorrow. And because I've been very mean to him over the past few posts, I'm gonna end by saying FB, get well soon!-
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In post 4702, Firebringer wrote: Role claims:
Firebringer BG (N1 Sakura, N2 Roden, N3 Bob)
Titus - VT
Aisa - Miller
Nurse - ???
Norwee - Informed Townie
Hu Tao - don't care
Doubt Nurse claims anything outside of VT.@Nurse- if you see this please claim!-
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Saves me from having to counter your counter arguments tbhIn post 4696, Firebringer wrote: I don't find u mean at all Aisa.
Just a scum bunny is all.
If i cared enough i would counter ur arguments but i don't.
if u think im scum with Nurse, why aren't u voting nurse?
Can't in good conscience vote nurse when I've only read like 10 posts by the guy! Need to brush up on his posting a little first, then maybe-
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I am manifesting a red flip-
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An alternative explanation could be that scum is afraid of how it would look for FB to -not- die at night!In post 4738, NorwegianboyEE wrote: If we have 2 conf!town and nobody died then maybe scum is afraid of FB dying instead of one of me/Hu Tao?
Grumble grumble NKs are all WIFOM anyway-
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Tonight (in Aisa time) I shall review part 2 of Firebringer’s ISO-
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Aaaah backstabbed :’DIn post 4750, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Actually u know that. Let's just end this game.
It's Dunn/Aisa. Has to be. The no kill spews Fire as town.
VOTE: Aisa
Help! HEELPP! There is a little vulture circling me, he wants me, I can feel it in my rabbit bones, he’s getting closer now, oh no, I think he’s swooping in!! AAAAa-In post 4753, Firebringer wrote: So scum no kill to ensure i wouldn't die
i guarded norwee last night
thought i could get scum to think i wouldn't target norwee by saying he wasn't worthy of protection but then they just go no kill.
Looks like they didn't want to take a 50/50.
Anyways Nurse flip all but confirms Aisa isn't miller. 100% scum were informed of amount of millers and tried to hide in them.
VOTE: Aisa
Serious posting in a bit-
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@mods:how many votes are required to end the day with no elimination?
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Ok, it's always tricky to know what to say to someone who's voting you.
It seems like one of the reasons you're voting me, Norwee, is because of the no kill. I'm not sure how that spews me or anyone scum.
Let's consider a world in which Fire and Titus are scum. What do you think is better for them - no killing, or killing? If they kill you or Hu Tao, maybe the credibility of FB's claim is called into question. If they no kill, the credibility of FB's claim is not called into question. I guess the downside of leaving you alive is that you seemed more aligned with me and Dunn yesterday. But importantly, killing you or Hu Tao is notobviouslythe right choice for an FB+Titus team. It immediately puts the spotlight on FB. It results in nothing near a guaranteed victory for them.
From a different perspective - I've seen different scum players play ELOs differently and probably so have you. Some kill the "obvious" townie - the one who's had a correct solve for 4 game days. Some make the "WIFOM" kill: they leave their worst enemy alive and then try to argue that then never would have left X alive etc etc. This is why earlier I said that I think NKA is wifom. I've seen both sides of the coin play out, so I don't think the night kill / lack of one is a reliable indicator in situations like these.
I'm also not sure / don't remember what you're referring to, but if you point it out I can try to address this too!In post 4757, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Actually i thought ur interaction with me earlier when i tried to bait you was genuine so i kinda started believing you were town from that point on.-
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You also said the words "if fire is town it can ONLY be Aisa and Dunn scum", and you're currently voting me. If you're not sure I'm scum, then you're risking a quickhammer.In post 4763, NorwegianboyEE wrote: I didn't say the no kill spewed you scum, i said it spewed Fire town.
That is where I'm leaning. I'm not sure but I'm not certainly gonna start arguing for you to vote him instead because I'm not sure that would help hahaIn post 4764, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Also do you think Dunn is town?-
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I disagree with your reasoning about the Nurse flip (lol).In post 4753, Firebringer wrote: So scum no kill to ensure i wouldn't die
i guarded norwee last night
thought i could get scum to think i wouldn't target norwee by saying he wasn't worthy of protection but then they just go no kill.
Looks like they didn't want to take a 50/50.
Anyways Nurse flip all but confirms Aisa isn't miller. 100% scum were informed of amount of millers and tried to hide in them.
VOTE: Aisa
1. We do not know what scum were informed of. I guess the fact they were informed of the Millers is credible, but still, uncertainty n all that. I remember that a very wise you once said to me and others to not solve games from mechanics. At least I think that was you. Oh how the tables have turned
2. More importantly... the fact scum were informed of the presence of millers does not in any way prove that someone in the scumteam must have fakeclaimed miller.
I, uh, may be sliightly leaning towards thinking that this is just the excuse FB came up with to be able to hop on my wagon
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Norwee and you were voting me, so if the scumteam were exactly Titus / Dunn there would have been a risk.In post 4773, Firebringer wrote:
There is no risk of a quickhammerIn post 4765, Aisa wrote: You also said the words "if fire is town it can ONLY be Aisa and Dunn scum", and you're currently voting me. If you're not sure I'm scum, then you're risking a quickhammer.In post 4775, Firebringer wrote:
Ive been scumreading your slot for days lolIn post 4768, Aisa wrote: I, uh, may be sliightly leaning towards thinking that this is just the excuse FB came up with to be able to hop on my wagonIn post 4777, Firebringer wrote: the only other possible team here if aisa is town is Titus/Dunnstral and that means Titus is bussing right now, after no killing.
Yeah this is somewhat fair, in the world where you are town I'm sure you have other reasons to be suspicious! I was trying to explain that the timing of your vote, plus the reasoning you gave, felt like you were just trying to build up momentum on my slot.In post 4778, Firebringer wrote:
Both of these are true. I am not using mech to solve you aisa and you know that.In post 4768, Aisa wrote: 1. We do not know what scum were informed of. I guess the fact they were informed of the Millers is credible, but still, uncertainty n all that. I remember that a very wise you once said to me and others to not solve games from mechanics. At least I think that was you. Oh how the tables have turned
2. More importantly... the fact scum were informed of the presence of millers does not in any way prove that someone in the scumteam must have fakeclaimed miller.
I am highlighting that the mech side bolsters my argument.
You might not be informed of millers, but I def don't believe alisae/ur claim of miller.
Maybe you're more worried about the accumulation of evidence against you now, and also feeling the squeeze from the PoE.In post 4776, Firebringer wrote:
Okay uno reverse time:In post 4762, Aisa wrote: Let's consider a world in which Fire and Titus are scum. What do you think is better for them - no killing, or killing? If they kill you or Hu Tao, maybe the credibility of FB's claim is called into question. If they no kill, the credibility of FB's claim is not called into question. I guess the downside of leaving you alive is that you seemed more aligned with me and Dunn yesterday. But importantly, killing you or Hu Tao is not obviously the right choice for an FB+Titus team. It immediately puts the spotlight on FB. It results in nothing near a guaranteed victory for them.
Spotlight has been on me for days due to my failing BGs. Yet you argue that scum me is worried about a spotlight so i go for no kill. Genius move
Meanwhile we have the easy to show cycle of you and alisae both been pushing me for days and a clear setup to elim me.Alisae had been saying for DAYS that if i was still alive that i should get elimmed or if i failed I get elimmed.
So if I succeeded last night then you are left in an awkward position and then have to buss your teammate dunnstral while having to make argument that its also Titus.
Your points about the motivation hypothetical scum!me would have to no kill are fair. Norwee said that no killing spewed you town and I wanted to oppose that by explaining that no killing is a viable option for you, too. But I acknowledge I could have no killed and it would have made sense.-
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Just as I was breathing a sigh of reliefIn post 4781, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Actually it’s becoming obvious that Fire and Aisa aren’t teamed so that makes Dunnstral the natural choice.
We can solve between Fire/Aisa tommorow after another scum is down.
VOTE: Dunnstral
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In post 4785, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Do i look like the type of person that has a reasonable explanation for my actions?
Great. Great! Everything is great (:In post 4786, NorwegianboyEE wrote: I’m having so much fun~-
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HmmIn post 4787, Titus wrote: From your perspective, you should have doubts on me being scum. I'm clearly pushing the scumread I am more confident in. In a Titus/Dunn or Titus/Fire world, there's no point in pulling NorwegianboyEE off of you.
I will think about this in my sleep-
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Not hammering fwiw-
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Hi. Thanks for the carry yesterday. Haven't reread anything yet but planning to today and then hopefully I'll have things to say-
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Me submitting fast night requests to RR knowing full well that I won't want to do anything in the new day until I read the game:
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Norwee, you mean you want me to towncase myself? Eugh, let's try.
My scumgame is not as good as you're giving it credit for. I think that as town stimes I get scumread for being indecisive, not really committing to pushes, etc. that's actually something I do much more as town than as scum. As town I care a lot about not getting too fixated on one solve, not making any unwarranted assumptions. I'm hesitant to jump on wagons.
As scum I try to reproduce this superficially, but fundamentally I don't care. I'm a lot less patient; if I see a wagon heating up near the end of a day, usually my instinct is "how can I jump on this wagon?" or "how can I egg this on?". I'm less charitable. Basically this is the Balancing Possibilities vs Probabilities thing, and I feel like I'm really bad at avoiding this tell as scum. One slightly extreme example of this is this post; I really needed Drew eliminated so I basically just threw any accusation I could think of at him.
fireisredsir recently said that when I'm scum I have an agenda and it's visible, and I think this is a pretty fair description.
Admittedly it's a little harder to see that I don't have an agenda in this game because I replaced into an ELO.
There probably are other differences between my town and scum game which are harder to describe, like there probably are some tonal differences if you look for them?
For legal reasons: of course I'm not trying to establish a trust tell, I fully intend to try to subvert these aspects of my meta in the future etc-
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In my last game with Firebringer I thought "haha, he's tunnelling me for such absurd reasons that he must be scum"
He was town (sorry FB </3)
Yesterday I thought the following about FB: "haha, he's tunnelling me for such absurd reasons that he must be scum"
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I am not saying he's town. More that without the previous experience I would be scumreading him for his push on me and now I'm ??? about his push.
I explained why I felt like he was accusing me unfairly yesterday:
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His reaction to my post was to double down. "No actually I meant XYZ and you're still scum." This reaction also felt scummy to me, I felt like I was getting out-talked and cornered without having dome anything wrong
Then I remembered that he also specifically doubled down on his scumread on me in the other game too. I said something about how his read was wrong and his reaction was "I don't believe you react this way as town, I scumread you so much Aisa" etc-
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In post 4644, Aisa wrote:
It's little interjections like this one that sometimes scare me into thinking Roden/Titus are townIn post 4095, Roden wrote: Also I forgot that Alisae's Miller claim looked really good...wtf
What if... there was a reason for these all these unexplained feelsIn post 4657, Aisa wrote:
Every. Single. Post. I have to fight the urge to townread this dudeIn post 4128, Roden wrote: Y'all if you think I'm scum then vote me out today, I don't want to fight in a potential ELO. I am historically terrible in ELO as town.
Who are you and what is this sorcery
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Not even a third through FB / Roden joint ISO but this suddenly isn't feeling like a hard decision-
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In post 1275, Roden wrote: Scum could just be frozen
Possibly hoping we get bored and move back to voting a flailing townie that everyone can gasp at while clutching their pearlsIn post 1283, Roden wrote: Alisae please vote Dunn
I'll fake a green check on you tomorrow in return if you'd like
Though hmm, did Roden have a good read on Dunn or did he TMI this?In post 1291, Roden wrote: Do you town read Dunn-
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Do I become a better scumhunter if I read the other 367 posts of the joint ISO? hmm...-
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It would be an interesting experiment to stop here and YOLO it. Roden just looks miiiles townier than FB to me from the first 200 posts.-
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Well... I suppose I'm not truly yoloing it unless I cast the vote!
VOTE: firebringer
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