Mini 1009 ÔÇô Popularity mafia (Game over - Mafia wins)

[Johoohno]

Mini 1009 - Popularity mafia

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Game status

Game over - Mafia wins

• drmyshottyizsik replaces Ectomancer by post 102
• Korashk replaces Korts by post 209
• nopointinactingup replaces drmyshottyizsik by post 212
• Tazaro replaces Iron Man by post 216
• ZONEACE replaces eljcko by post 281
  
• Zdenek replaces ZONEACE by post 698

Still alive

(One of em is the winning mafia, the other the endgamed townie)

tumescence

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nopointinactingup

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drmyshottyizsik

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) (

Ectomancer

)

Dead

ChannelDelibird

,

Townie

, lynched Day 1

Korashk

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Korts

),

Townie

, killed Night 1.

Tazaro

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Iron Man

),

Scum

, lynched Day 2

mothrax

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Townie

, killed Night 2.

Thief

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Scum

, lynched Day 3.

Blackberry

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Townie

, lynched Day 4

Cuethlachtli

,

Townie

, killed Night 4.

scotmany12

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Townie

, lynched Day 5

Zdenek

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ZONEACE

) (

eljcko

) [/color],

Townie

, killed Night 6.

Simenon

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Townie

, lynched Day 7

Quick links

Rules|Townie PM|Game start
Night 1|Night 2|Night 3|Night 4|Night 5|Night 6|
Final votecount, game's final post|Night choces|thoughts on the nomination mechanism

[Johoohno]

Rules

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[001]

Voting

: Only votes in bold (

vote: Johoohno

) will be counted. If you no longer want your vote where it is you can

unvote

. You are not required to unvote when you shift vote from one player to another, I will only count your last vote.
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Lynches

: When a player has a majority of votes he’ll be lynched – consider the game to be in twilight until I lock the thread (twilight = no new votes/unvotes are counted, the lynch is inevitable).
[003]

Deadline

: Each day will be deadlined to :arrow: 3 weeks, depending on my real life issues (no extensions planned). If we reach a deadline without a lynch the player (or No Lynch) with the most votes will be lynched. In the case of a tie, the one who got to that number of votes first will be lynched.

Exception:

In a lynch-or-loose situation the votes needed are NOT reduced. Should there be no active votes at deadline no one will be lynched.
[004]

Keep game in thread only

: The game is played within this thread. You are not allowed to discuss it outside unless your role specifically tells you otherwise.
[005]

Death

: Once your death scene has been posted, you’re dead. Stop typing.
[006]

Editing/Deleting

: Don’t edit/delete previously submitted posts.
[007]

Quoting

: Don’t quote any PMs from me.
[008]

Night choices

: If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the night deadline (night lasting approximately three days), :arrow: I will not wait for you, if you do not submit a choice to me no choice will be made.
[009]

Being away?

: If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 72-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread. :arrow: If you are away for 72 hours, without any notice why, you might find yourself replaced. Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate, don’t leave us hanging.
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Colours and texts

:

Blue colour

is my colour, don’t use it in the thread. And don’t use encrypted, small or invisible text either.
[011]

Prods and replacements

: I will prod players and ask for replacements by your requests (or when I see fit). Do bold your requests in thread to make me see them more easily. (If you find errors or have questions I prefer getting them by PM). Replacements inherit their predecessors votes and need to unvote if they don't like where their vote is.
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Good game

: Remember, it’s a game. It’s supposed to be played. It’s supposed to be fun. Do your part.

[Johoohno]

Townie role PM

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Townie:

You are a townie, trying to make a living and survive this insanity.

• Your voice and vote are powerful weapons in their own right. Use them to your best advantage!
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• In this game you are allowed to nominate a single person during each night. The person with most nominations will be night kill immune that night (in case of a tie
  nobody
  is immune). Nominations and immunity will not be publicly announced. Only nominations sent in during NIGHT CYCLE via PM to the mod (formatted like this:
  Nominate: Johoohno
  ) will be counted. If you send in more than one only the last one sent in before deadline will be counted.
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive or not.

[Johoohno]

Day 1

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Yet another town is infested with the mafia. This time town has decided to nominate a person each night whom to wear the only bullet proof vest available. Let’s see if this will help them get rid of the mafia or not.

Let's get started, Day 1 is a-foot

Deadline is August 10

(Mafia are allowed to continue talking in their thread for 24 hours from this post's time stamp - since the thread hasn't come up until now).

[Johoohno]

Vote count

(12 players alive = 7 to lynch before deadline)

(4) Iron Man - Cuethlachtli, ChannelDelibird, Ectomancer, Thief
(2) mothrax - Simenon, scotmany12
(2) Scotmany12 – eljcko, mothrax
(1) Blackberry – Korts
(1) eljcko - Iron Man

Not voting: Blackberry, tumescence

:arrow: Day 1 – (Deadline is August 10)

[Johoohno]

Ectomancer has asked for a replacement and drmyshottyizsik has offered to step in. Thanks Ectomancer for playing and thanks drmyshottyizsik for replacing in (effective immediately)!

[Johoohno]

Vote count

(12 players alive = 7 to lynch before deadline)

(2) Thief - eljcko, Blackberry
(2) mothrax - scotmany12, ChannelDelibird
(2) Korts – Thief, Cuethlachtli
(1) drmyshottyizsik – mothrax
(1) Blackberry – drmyshottyizsik
(1) Iron Man – Simenon
(1) elcjko – Korts

Not voting: Iron Man, tumescence

:arrow: Day 1 – (Deadline is August 10)

[Johoohno]

Vote count

(12 players alive = 7 to lynch before deadline)

(3) mothrax - scotmany12, ChannelDelibird, drmyshottyizsik
(2) Thief - eljcko, Blackberry
(1) drmyshottyizsik – mothrax
(1) Iron Man – Simenon
(1) elcjko – Korts
(1) Simenon - tumescence
(1) Korts - Thief

Not voting: Cuethlachtli, Iron Man

:arrow: Day 1 – (Deadline is August 10)

[Johoohno]

Korts has asked for a replacement and Korashk has offered to step in. Thanks Korts for playing and thanks Korashk for replacing in (effective immediately)!

[Johoohno]

drmyshottyizsik has asked for a replacement and nopointinactingup has offered to step in. Thanks drmyshottyizsik for playing and thanks nopointinactingup for replacing in (effective immediately)!

[Johoohno]

Iron Man has posted or responded to prods for quite some time and Tazaro has offered to step in. Thanks Iron Man for playing and thanks Tazaro for replacing in (effective immediately)!

[Johoohno]

Johoono, can we please get another round of prods for the inactives / lurkers? The deadline is next Tuesday.

Please bold your requests, that way I won't miss them as easily. I've prodded tumescence and eljcko (do be more specific of whom you want prodded) since they were closing in on three days without posts.

[Johoohno]

@MOD: ChannelDelibird hasn't posted in this thread for over a week, is a replacement necessary for him?

CDB pm:ed me a few days ago and told he would be away until today (I posted it in the OP). If he hasn't appeared tomorrow I'll start looking for a replacement.

[Johoohno]

Eljcko hasn't picked up his prods and ZONEACE has offered to step in. Thanks eljcko for playing and thanks ZONEACE for replacing in (effective immediately)!

[Johoohno]

Final vote count Day 1

(12 players alive = 7 to lynch before deadline)

(4) ChannelDelibird – Simenon, Tazaro, nopointinactingup, Cuethlachtli
(3) mothrax - scotmany12, ChannelDelibird, ZONEACE
(2) nopointinactingup – mothrax, Korashk
(1) Simenon – tumescence
(1) Korts – Thief
(1) Cuethlachtli – Blackberry

Not voting:

:arrow: Day 1 – (Deadline is August 10)

Night 1

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The town finally decides on lynching ChannelDelibird, though without enthusiasm or consensus. As is expected he turns up town.

ChannelDelibird,

Townie

, lynched Day 1

It is now night and all townies should send in a person they want to grant night kill immunity (see rules for proper format, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF), and mafia may discuss in their given thread and then PM me the person they want to night kill.

Deadline night 1: August 13

[Johoohno]

Day 2

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When morning breaks you find that Korashk doesn’t join you.

Korashk,

Townie

, killed Night 1.

Day two is a-foot. With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch before deadline.

Deadline is September 3

[Johoohno]

Vote count Day 2

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch before deadline)

(3) mothrax – ZONEACE, Tazaro, scotmany12
(2) nopointinactingup – Cuethlachtli, mothrax

Not voting: Blackberry, nopointinactingup, Simenon, Thief, tumescence

:arrow: Deadline Day 2 is September 3

[Johoohno]

Vote count Day 2

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch before deadline)

(3) mothrax – ZONEACE, Tazaro, scotmany12
(2) nopointinactingup – Cuethlachtli, mothrax
(2) Tazaro - nopointinactingup, Simenon
(1) Simenon - tumescence

Not voting: Blackberry, Thief,

:arrow: Deadline Day 2 is September 3

[Johoohno]

Final vote count Day 2

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch before deadline)

(6) Tazaro – nopointinactingup, Simenon, mothrax, ZONEACE, Cuethlachtli, scotmany12
(2) ZONEACE – Blackberry, Tazaro
(1) mothrax – Thief
(1) Simenon – tumescence

Not voting: ---

Deadline Day 2 is September 3

Night 2

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With a lot more resolve than yesterday town decisively lynches Tazaro. A scum.

Tazaro,

Scum

, lynched Day 2

It is now night and all townies should send in a person they want to grant night kill immunity (see rules for proper format, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF), and mafia may discuss in their given thread and then PM me the person they want to night kill.

Deadline night 2: August 25

[Johoohno]

Day 3

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Another night, another kill. Mothrax was this night’s victim.

mothrax,

Townie

, killed Night 2.

Day three is rolling. With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch before deadline.

Deadline is September 15

[Johoohno]

Vote count Day 3

(8 players alive = 5 to lynch before deadline)

(3) Thief – Cuethlachtli, ZONEACE, Simenon
(1) ZONEACE – Thief
(1) Cuethlachtli – nopointinactingup
(1) Simenon - tumescence

Not voting: Blackberry, scotmany12

Deadline Day 3 is September 15

[Johoohno]

Vote count Day 3

(8 players alive = 5 to lynch before deadline)

(4) Thief – Cuethlachtli, ZONEACE, Simenon, nopointinactingup
(1) ZONEACE – Thief
(1) Simenon – tumescence
(1) tumescence – scotmany12
(1) Cuethlachtli – Blackberry

Not voting: ---

Deadline Day 3 is September 15

[Johoohno]

Vote count Day 3

(8 players alive = 5 to lynch before deadline)

(2) Cuethlachtli – Blackberry, Cuethlachtli,
(2) Thief – ZONEACE, Simenon
(1) ZONEACE – Thief
(1) Simenon – tumescence
(1) tumescence – scotmany12

Not voting: nopointinactingup

Deadline Day 3 is September 15

[Johoohno]

Sorry I was involved in a bad car crash last week, and I have no insurance.

If you have to replace then I apologize, but if not I will have more time for this game tomorrow.

No need to replace you if you're here. Good to have you back!

[Johoohno]

Final vote count Day 3

(8 players alive = 5 to lynch before deadline)

(5) Thief – ZONEACE, Simenon, nopointinactingup, scotmany12, Cuethlachtli
(2) Cuethlachtli – Blackberry, Thief
(1) Simenon – tumescence

Not voting: ---

Night 3

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Thief was found most scummy and a somewhat decisive town finally lynched him. He was, in fact, scum.

Thief,

Scum

, lynched Day 3

It is now night and all townies should send in a person they want to grant night kill immunity (see rules for proper format, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF), and mafia may discuss in their given thread and then PM me the person they want to night kill.

Deadline night 3: September 18

[Johoohno]

Day 4

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Another night, but no kill. Odd, but refreshing.

Day four is rolling. With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch before deadline.

Deadline is October 9

[Johoohno]

Final vote count Day 4

(7 players alive = 4 to lynch before deadline)

(4) Blackberry – ZONEACE, Simenon, Cuetlachtli, scotmany12,
(2) Cuetlachtli – nopointinactingup, Blackberry
(1) Simenon – tumescence

Not voting: ---

Night 4

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Blackberry is strung up regardless of his defense, which town regard as too weak. Upon his death it becomes clear he was, in fact, town.

Blackberry,

Townie

, lynched Day 4

It is now night and all townies should send in a person they want to grant night kill immunity (see rules for proper format, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF), and mafia may discuss in their given thread and then PM me the person they want to night kill.

Deadline night 4: October 2

[Johoohno]

Day 5

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Dawn brings another death. One of the most talkative people is no longer alive.

Cuetlachtli,

Townie

, killed Night 4.

Day five is rolling. With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch before deadline.

Deadline is October 23

[Johoohno]

Vote count Day 5

(5 players alive = 3 to lynch before deadline)

(1) scotmany12 - tumescence

Not voting: nopointinactingup, scotmany12, Simenon, ZONEACE

Deadline is October 23

[Johoohno]

Final vote count Day 5

(5 players alive = 3 to lynch before deadline)

(3) scotmany12 - tumescence, Simenon, nopointinactingup

Not voting: scotmany12, ZONEACE

First hesitantly but later on with more people in agreement scotmany12 is lynched. And yet another townie bites the dust.

scotmany12,

Townie

, lynched Day 5

It is now night and all townies should send in a person they want to grant night kill immunity (see rules for proper format, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF), and mafia may discuss in their given thread and then PM me the person they want to night kill.

Deadline night 5: October 26

[Johoohno]

Day 6

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Another night without a kill.

Day six is rolling. With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch before deadline.

Deadline is November 16

[Johoohno]

ZONEACE hasn't picked up his prods and Zdenek has offered to step in. Thanks ZONEACE for playing and thanks Zdenek for replacing in (effective immediately)!

[Johoohno]

Vote count Day 6

(4 players alive = 3 to lynch before deadline)

(1) No lynch - nopointinactingup
(1) tumescence - Simenon

Not voting: tumescence, Zdenek

Deadline is November 16

[Johoohno]

Mod:
Nopoint has voted no lynch. I'm not sure if you want to count that in the vote count.
Also, Tumescence and Simenon need to be prodded

Sorry about missing the no lynch vote, I've edited the vote count at the top of this page now. Tum has now been prooded.

[Johoohno]

Final vote count Day 6

(4 players alive = 3 to lynch before deadline)

(3) No lynch – nopointinactingup, tumescence, Zdenek

(1) tumescence - Simenon

Not voting: ---

This day town goes with a new strategy: “let’s not lynch at all! And tomorrow the situation should be a lot clearer.” Eagerly they all awaited the night.

It is now night and all townies should send in a person they want to grant night kill immunity (see rules for proper format, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF), and mafia may discuss in their given thread and then PM me the person they want to night kill.

Deadline night 6: November 10

[Johoohno]

Day 7

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This morning Zdenek doesn’t come down for the town meeting. He’s been killed.

Zdenek,

Townie

, killed Night 6.

Day seven is rolling. With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch before deadline.

Deadline is December 1

[Johoohno]

Final vote count Day 7

(3 players alive = 2 to lynch before deadline)

(2) Simenon – tumescence, nopointinactingup

Not voting: Simenon

With a ”what evah-attitude” Simenon is hastily lynched and nopointinactingup then swiftly kills off tumescence too. He is then heard cheering all the way down the now empty village street ”This all now belongs to me!”

Simenon,

Townie

, lynched Day 7

Scum wins!

First post, night choice and scum thread (if the scums agrees to give it out) will be given later today when I have the time.

[Johoohno]

Night choices

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N1: Scum kill Korashk, No one is immune (BB nom Thief, Cuet nom Tume, Zone nom Scot, Scot nom Sim, Sim nom Zone)
N2: Scum kill mothrax. Simenon is immune (Cuet and Scot nom Sim, Zone nom Scot, moth nom Cuet, Sim nom Nopoint)
N3: Scum tries to kill Zone who is immune (Sim and tume nom Zone, Zone nom scot, scot nom Sim and Cuet says he doesn't want to nominate anyone)
N4: Scum kills Cuetlachtli. Noone is immune (Cuet nom Zone, Zone nom Scot, scot nom Sim, Sim nom Nopoint)
N5: Scum tries to kill Zone. Zone is immune (Sim nom Zone)
N6: Scum kills Zdenek. No one is immune (Sim nom nopoint)

[Johoohno]

Winning scums

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nopointinactingup, Thief & Tazaro

Good game & thank you all for participating

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Thanks to all participants and congratulations to the scum team! This game went on fairly well even though it suffered from a lot of replacements in the beginning. In the beginning I was fairly sure the town was on the right trail and would win this, but nopoint managed to fool everyone in the end. Well done. You are all welcome to write your comment in the thread.

@ the scum team: Are you okay with my giving out your scum topic thread?

[Johoohno]

Thoughts on the nomination mechanism

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I am curious as to how you all thought the nomination worked out. I was kind of guessing there would be a lot of more discussion as to who voted whom and also expecting something similar to a doc gambit where the entire village agreed upon say three very townlike players to focus all their nomintations at to either dare the scums to fail killing one of those or having to settle for a less attractive target.

[Johoohno]

Suggestions for improvement of OP

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I'm enjoying modding these games and I want to create a format for the opening post that is useful the entire game through. Now I'm wondering if you are using it in the first place and if you, in that case, miss any information there.

I think the votecount edited in at the top of each page is working well, but do you feel it is too seldom?

[Johoohno]

I think 1 vc/ page is decent and convenient. But it's hard to people to IsO you and look at wagon formulations because the vote counts are in posts of various people xD

Yes I know people do iso the mod sometimes, but I thought that a vc at the top of every page would make it easy to just follow the game pages and see how wagons are built. Perhaps people in general prefer the vote counts as mod posts instead?

@Johoohno: The votecount is fine. The nomination mechanism didn't reach its full potential this game because noone was unanimously acknowledged as town. The opening post should have included the info about this being a mountainous setup. Thanks for modding the game!

Ahh, the mountainous issue There was a lot of speculation about this at one point in this game. I know I called it mountainous in the sign up thread, but there I linked it to this post in the Open Setup and Ideas-thread where I talk about having 3 scums (and that link was also the one at my wiki page, which was in my signature all through the game). I was surprised that people in this game went to lengths checking my post in the sign up thread where I call it mountainous but from there don't follow the link to open setup and ideas.

[Johoohno]

I wish you had maintained better continuity in terms of the flavor. In your Day 1 narration, you mentioned that the town had one bullet-proof vest that they could use during the night. But in the subsequent days, you never mentioned anything about that bullet-proof vest. Even on the days when Zone got the immunity. I would have expected something like

"Boom! Boom! Zone has been hit. Luckily he was wearing the bullet-proof vest"

. Or you could have hid the flavor with

"The town wakes up to the sound of thunder. Oddly, no one was killed during the night."

Sure, I could have done that. I normally stay close to a certain flavor, but in this game I was actually more thinking of the role "bullet proof" than the flavor. But I could've made that clearer. I don't want town to be knowledgeable if there actually was a kill attempt or not, though.

Include this clause in respect to MYLO situations.

If no kill is attempted within 5 days, the game is over and the town is victorious.

This will prevent the scum from continuously no-killing and maintaining the 1:3 advantage. The scum are already at an advantage in 1:2 situations with no investigative roles, why allow them even more leverage?

Good call, I'll do that if I run a similar game (which I definitely is considering, I think the setup was pretty balanced and intriguing with new possible gambits/play styles from both sides). However, in this game scum tried to kill each night but weren't succesful due to correct nominations twice.

Thoughts on the nomination concept

I think its a double-edged sword. While it can be intimidating to scum, as Nopoint has argued, I think scum can also use it to the detriment of the town, which Nopoint did also. The inherent assumption with nominations is that the most pro-town player is going to get immunity. This allows a smart scum player to bus his teammates in order to gain town cred without having to worry about explaining why he is still around 3 days later. The town will just assume he got the immunity since he was so "pro-town." This inference is exactly why I advised the town NOT to nominate during the final days.

I think the town benefits more from using their power, and even more so since it is a power known to all but only useful if town works together. This really forces town to cooperate. And as a scum trying to bus your pals you're going to have a hard time bussing them unless they actually screws up in some way. And this is what mafia boils down to: scum will try to act win, and therefore their patterns will stand out some way or another. Doing what you suggests might work just as often as it might fail, all depending on situations and players.

[Johoohno]

@Cuet: Do you have the Graveyard link?

There was none, which reminds me. Joh, I would suggest that in the next game you mod, to include a quicktopic for the dead.

Sure, didn't think of it but I will include it next game.