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Post Post #396 (isolation #0) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:22 am

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I'm the replacement for Tasky. As much as I'd hope we'd be lucky enough to avoid a mislynch, I'll want to know what information transpires after quadz08 is lynched.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:28 am

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Tazaro wrote:I'm the replacement for Tasky. As much as I'd hope we'd be lucky enough to avoid a mislynch, I'll want to know what information transpires after quadz08 is lynched.
Here's the hammer. It's coming...
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VOTE: quadz08
I should also contribute something. Is anyone else suspicious of jay? He somehow reminds me of a player I've played with in my last game who was scum, it's basically gut feeling though :| . And vezo, you're a enigma in every game lol. I've seen your work. Keep up the scumhunting; I'll be sure to cooperate and give my thoughts in plenty of posts--I posted frequently in my last game, people even complained :mrgreen: .
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Post Post #398 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:41 am

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Oh, should of checked who Tasky voted for before I voted.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:42 am

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I meant
Vote: quadz08
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Post Post #400 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:47 am

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See! My multiposting is what people complained about; i'm clumsy. But in my posting above, followed the proper procedure of unvoting vezo and voting quadz.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:01 am

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IGMEOY, vezo.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:29 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:youtube
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Post Post #405 (isolation #7) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:17 am

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@MOD: Final Day One vote count?
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Post Post #406 (isolation #8) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:17 am

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Oops:
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Post Post #408 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:26 pm

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Humble Poirot wrote:Did you even read the cases on him?

What about the cases of vezok?

You didn't even mention who that player was or in which game so that people could try to follow your train of thoughts.
Tazaro wrote: :| . And vezo, you're a enigma in every game lol. I've seen your work. Keep up the scumhunting;
Do you feel he is scumhunting?
1) Day one was a whole lot of people opining in different directions. I voted for quadz08 because I want to see what happens after this day one lynch, and this day one is not a good provider of stuff to gauge people's alignment yet. It is easier to be suspicious of people after day one once the flip result of the lynch occurs and the nightkill occurs. I suspect from the content of day one that quadz08 is not scum--but this is just like most day one lynches (mislynches).
2)I mentioned how vezok was an enigma, so the hindsight after the nightkill and quadz's flip will be better for the purposes of commenting about vezok. I get the impression that he plays the way he does because his game play, in part, cause him to bea question mark, especially in day one.
3) I was thinking of Leech in Newbie 943. The tone with which he commented on texts separately is reminiscent of a player called Leech's assertively-stated words and sometimes, in the style of Leech, acerbic words that Leech put in his wall of texts that dealed one-by-one with seperately quoted pieces of his adversary's posts, though jay's posts are not as long. It is gut that I am using with jay, but Leech was scum and scum are going to do try to seem more credible by breaking stuff up and commenting with an air that only scum would use. But that air is subtle and we all don't know who among us has a sincere air instead of a false one.
4) I was saying "Keep up the scumhunting" to everyone. "I've seen your work" was the end of my addressing lynch in that post you sliced the wrong way, Poirot.
Everyone tries to scum hunt, but some of them are doing it falsely. Active scum do a lot of bulls***ing about what evidence has to say about whether someone is scum or not. As for what I will say in the process of scum hunting, I will not say that there are evidentiary items A, B, C, D, E of someone's being mafia unless I can use it systematically to support a theory that I think others can agree with. But I will ask questions and provide suggestions about stuff as it occurs
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Post Post #410 (isolation #10) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:55 pm

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He probably is town, given the mislynch probability of day one.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:28 pm

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Poirot asked for a link to my previous game: Link to my previous game If this doesn't work, then just copy and paste the url into the top box of your browser screen.
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Post Post #412 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:33 pm

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Tazaro wrote:Poirot asked for a link to my previous game: Link to my previous game If this doesn't work, then just copy and paste the url into the top box of your browser screen.
It DOES work. Yay, I know how to make a link work properly! Summarizing it the best I can, per Poirot's request, the crescendo of the attention was on Sauron and Leech after Leech claimed to be a cop who investigated Sauron as guilty. Leech was actually the one who was mafia. And I don't expect anyone other than Poirot to check it out, but I can tell you that I was a multiposter in that game too, and the game went interestingly because Leech was a good liar.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:45 pm

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Ninja'd by xvart.
Post after I saw xvart's question: I feel very uncomfortable about Poirot. I've tried to reexamine stuff and he seems to be dangerous if he's scum. He seems to be intelligent, but this makes me more suspicious about him joining the attack against quadz who played rather newbishly. And xvart, it was either you or Poirot who said that quadz was obvscum; you guys went over the cliff on that one.

Post before I saw xvart's question:
xvart wrote:Hmmm... You voted for someone you think is town?

xvart.
Yeah, and you thought he was scum, eh. Mislynches almost always happen on day one, and people should think that they probably have the wrong guy on the noose on day one. But no nightkill? This deprives us of information about the mafia's nightkill strategy. We who survive need to be organized but not pounce on a player like quadz, but pounce on a player who's scumminess can't be just bad gameplay but is actually from bona fide scum tells.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #14) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:46 pm

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^ Ohh, that was Super Smash Bros. Fan's question, not xvart's.
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Post Post #420 (isolation #15) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:50 pm

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^ I was thinking of xvart because that was the first word I saw before I submitted the post I wrote. And to answer my own wondering, it was xvart who said: quadz - obvscum. Let's try again.
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Post Post #423 (isolation #16) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:15 pm

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xvart, I wouldn't suggest pouncing on anyone. We still have to watch people.

It's good that there is "we who survive." I'm not denying that; I have to see how Poirot does things later, but I learned that scum aren't going to pop out of the woodwork day one mostly likely; forgive me for instances of run-on sentences, I'm just tired and being in plenty of games I've got to conserve my energy in typing words before bedtime so I'm more lucid.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #17) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:16 pm

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^The second paragraph is addressed to SSB. Fan's post.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #18) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:31 pm

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Effectively, my scum list is nilch. I have to read more and discard gut feelings. And sleep before doing any of that.
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Post Post #433 (isolation #19) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:30 am

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Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:[
Tazaro
: I understand he replaced near the end of the deadline, but that didn't mean he should have immediately hammered quadz08. He gave no explanation on why he found quadz08 scummy.
I said I did not suspect quadz08. I made it clear that it's an information lynch.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:34 am

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^diddin, are you telling us about Friend's replacement activity to have an excuse to tell you are going to find things about Poirot?
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Post Post #435 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:36 am

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edit: ...an excuse to tell US you are going to find things about Poirot. Are you attempting to make him the most suspicious person on the bandwagon? Hmmm?
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Post Post #437 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:10 am

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diddin's intellectually suspicious. I'm not talking about the gut suspicion I had with Poirot or jay. Diddin's cooking up stuff. I should vote for him now that my triple posting is not in danger of being one of my annoying quadruples, which someone once said they wished I could be policy lynched for in a now completed game. I hope nobody despises my triple posts> I can stop if asked.
VOTE: diddin
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Post Post #438 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:14 am

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^my other two suspects, honestly, are ? and ?. My vote for diddin in the previous post needs to have its merits debated. Do you guys see the same thing I see about diddin?
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Post Post #440 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:38 am

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I keep procrastinating with the reading. And I'm not going to make a list of official suspects unless those suspects are on that list for more than gut feeling. My suspect list is diddin, ?, ?. My people to look out for are everyone, my people who are probably town are Oso and Sotty.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:29 am

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I can't expect the information that it reveals. I can only see what happens in the aftermath, but those who were on the wagon have to be watched, including me. The thing I find now is diddin telling us that he's going to reread Humble. What could that achieve for diddin's intentions?
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Post Post #449 (isolation #26) » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:30 am

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diddin and KageLord, engaged in tag-teaming vezo, a weak player? I believe it.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #27) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:53 am

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It's interesting that diddin went from saying that Friend may be panicking scum and therefore he'll reread Poirot (who replaced Friend) to saying that he wanted to RECONFIRM his town read on Poirot after he got two votes, a reread which was accomplished quickly without finding one thing that was "blatantly scummy". What about more subtle scummy, do you want to reread for that? Who in the world says they want to reconfirm a town read, diddin? It seemed like you wanted to set up something about Poirot and then realized you didn't want to fail at it and thus wanted to change your objective to "reconfirming". Something bothers me about this.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:37 am

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And another. Yes, I said vezo was a weak player in this game. That's why he's easy to use by scum to divert attention.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:52 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:Scum always try to force a mislynch on me.
I agree with you. I was saying that diddin and KageLord targetted you; they want to do that for their purposes.
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Post Post #463 (isolation #30) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:23 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:You say I am a weak player.
Scum always try to force a mislynch on me.
If diddin flips town tazaro should be the next to go.
I'm sorry, but this strikes me as being overly offended by something I said.
@diddin: who are the handful of people who are suspicious of me?
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Post Post #464 (isolation #31) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:27 am

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diddin wrote:I unvoted because vezo was L-2 and the last 2 votes on his wagon were terrible, terrible votes.
Well, you're saying "2 votes" about KageLord and quadz08, I assume? Were they terrible wagons votes if those two aren't scum? What exactly is terrible about those two votes, and what do you think about KageLord's alignment?, because you seem to agree with each other presently on vezo.
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Post Post #465 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:37 am

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diddin wrote:KageLord: This is the vote I dislike most on the wagon, mostly because he's trying to use the fact the posts were 6 minutes apart to justify vezo sheeping with SSBF. Really looks like he's grasping at straws here.
How did I miss this? I actually think that vezo would sheep though. And I'm suspicious that this comment about KageLord could be an act of bussing on diddin's part. I have to rethink what I think about their alignments, and whether I'm more suspicious of KageLord or diddin.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:47 pm

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Look at vezo's meta from games past. I'm just saying...
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Post Post #468 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:47 pm

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I.E, vezo is VI.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #35) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:06 pm

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Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:I disliked Tazaro's contradiction that he made. #460, he agrees that vezokpiraka is an easy target. Yet in #463, he thought the post striked him as vezokpiraka being overly offensive about him calling vezokpiraka a weak player. That makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense to me. I agreed with the fact that he's an easy target when he said something like "They always try to mislynch me" and I saw him as being overly offended when he said I was scum as a result of my doing nothing more than calling him a weak player. It's moodiness.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #36) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:10 pm

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Double post: He's moody and easily offended; hence the "form of OMGUS." And his weakness(es) in playing makes him an easy target.
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Post Post #474 (isolation #37) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:15 pm

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Triple Post: Don't mean to offend vezo at all.
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Post Post #477 (isolation #38) » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:42 pm

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@Aranneas: Honestly, I wanted others to cobble together what information they could derive from the lynch. As a replacement, I'm not the one who is most equipped to do that.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #39) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:01 am

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Oso wrote:I had a town read on Tasky pretty much that carried over to you Tazaro. Have to be honest, you pulled that right back to the lower side of neutral with that hammer.

This is mainly curiosity, why didn't you let KG hammer? He had already said that he would hammer before deadline. Or had gotten that far in your read through before you hammered?
I didn't know that KageLord said he was going to hammer; I missed that from my reading.
@xvart: I got the sense that vezo said that I should be lynched next after diddin because he was butthurt by what I said. I didn't see him say I needed to be lynched before that comment I made about him of him being a weak player.
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Post Post #485 (isolation #40) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:14 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:Nah. I wasn't but-hurt. I was
just saying things without giving reasons like I always do
. Sometimes I don't do this but...
Well, that's what threw me off.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #41) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:30 am

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quadz08 could have been an information lynch, but I really don't see anybody mentioning him anymore. I couldn't expect what people were going to say, but just like other lynches that happen so early in a game, it seemed to be good to get it done with.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #42) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:56 am

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Sotty7 wrote:
Tazaro Post 458 wrote:And another. Yes, I said vezo was a weak player in this game. That's why he's easy to use by scum to divert attention.
So you don't think vezo is scum in the least?
How should I know?; his game play is VI.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #43) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:18 am

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diddin wrote:Vezo lynch is looking better and better because tazaro's insistence vezo is just a VI could be a potential scumlink.
I assume you've never played with vezo before.
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Post Post #497 (isolation #44) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:41 am

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I hope you have good insight about diddin, Humble Poirot. He's rubbing me the wrong way.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #45) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:02 am

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Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:@Tazaro: You seem to know a lot about vezokpiraka's meta. Have you played a game with him or are you in an ongoing game with him. Furthermore, why do you keep defending vezokpiraka with the "meta/VI" excuse so much?
I played with him before. I'm defending him because he is being targetted by diddin and KageLord's tag-team of voting and I see it as a push to lynch the VI. Considering diddin's change FROM saying that Friend might be scumming so he'll look closer at Poirot TO saying he just wanted to RECONFIRM his town read on someone who he previously implied might be scum based on Friend. This change is fishy to me, and he's being very adamant about undermining what I'm saying about vezo.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #46) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:52 am

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Oso wrote:
vezo
- Basically gave his vote to the quadz lynch, in my opinion, because it was the easiest thing to do at that point. Never pulled it off and is the single most scummiest vote on the quadz wagon. This is why my vote is staying on vezo at the moment. He had the scummiest reason (in this case, pretty much no reason) to be voting quadz. AND ALSO because of the confusion yesterday around several people thinking he had softclaimed a PR, I want to get rid of that confusion today.
Outing a town PR in vezo's case, carries less risk to town than continuing without a claim. He's a scum magnet right now because of his play so far and I'd like to know for myself what role he would claim (or is).
It would go a long way clearing up some of the static I am getting about my reads on other players based off of him.
I hope vezo reads this; he definitely needs to claim.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #47) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:59 am

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My defense of vezo is justified by the attacks on vezo by diddin that are of the same bad character as the "direct contradiction" that q21 pointed out.
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Post Post #513 (isolation #48) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:49 pm

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I believe his claim. Especially since Neighbour was spelled with a "u." The mod is Australian, I think.
UNVOTE: diddin
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Post Post #515 (isolation #49) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:02 pm

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Wait a minute, the "neighbour" thing is believable, but the "town jailkeeper" isn't necessarily true.
And I'm willing to bet the "neighbor" thing is used by the mod because at least one of the three neighbors is scum. Or else you could be called masons that may or may not have power roles.
FoS: diddin
. I'm not sure, but you could be making up the sotty thing on the back of the no-nightkill that could have another explantion.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #50) » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:02 pm

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Aranneas wrote:Would you folks feel comfortable summarizing the neighbour chat from last night for our benefit? Why/why not?
This.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #51) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:10 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:Should I claim now guys?
Fine with me. We'll see if they make you a distraction from diddin as a result of the claim, you are neck and neck with diddin, who as far as I know gave no sufficient explanation for why he targetted Sotty. I don't believe that Sotty being targetted by a jailkeeper because he's dangerous as scum is a good answer.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #52) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:19 am

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I'm the 1st person to agree to seeing your results.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #53) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:10 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:
People who don't want me to claim results: [0/3]
This
wasn't part of the deal. It was supposed to be at least 3 people agreeing regardless of whether it just three.
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Post Post #559 (isolation #54) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:20 am

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So KageLord did something, and diddin claimed to do something. These two can easily be theorized as planning this in their conversing with each other at night... again, KageLord and diddin, that's my tag team of scumminess.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #55) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:24 am

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Double post: By the way, claim KageLord, you've been outed. And it's interesting you targetted diddin's neighbor Oso.
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Post Post #562 (isolation #56) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:44 am

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KageLord wrote:since I'm pretty sure that Mafia Watcher is a very uncommon role, if ever used, I'll
unvote
Is it any more uncommon than town jailkeeper? Unvoting vezo, I see. And I'm very much seeing a KageLord and diddin night one discussion in the mix of this Oso-targetting that was done by KageLord.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #57) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:03 am

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You'd look bad with still having a vote on vezo if people came to believing him. And it doesn't matter if you are saying you are changing your mind about vezo if you're mafia. I have no idea what your PM said you are able to do, but it's possible that either you or KageLord are a MAFIA jailkeeper (which is a possible role) or you could just be mafia that have the power to nightkill. Another thing is, diddin was seemingly trying to posture himself to try to attack the good standing of one of his neighbors, Poirot, so targetting the other neighbor Oso with a nightkill and flipping him as town makes Poirot more likely to be seen as scum.
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Post Post #568 (isolation #58) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:13 am

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He was saying IF he would have found 2 people he would have told at the beginning of the day. He didn't tell at the beginning of the day; he just found ONE P.R.
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Post Post #572 (isolation #59) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:41 am

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You want me to agree with the fact that YOU were agreeing with Humble? So what? That's a red herring; I was talking about diddin's (not your) posturing to try to attack Humble on day two, which he quickly retracted and changed his purpose for rereading into reconfirming his town read on Humble. You could be the real MAFIA jailkeeper, KageLord, and targetting Oso would make sense since you may figure that he's a neighbor with a power role, and nightkilling Oso would make the neighbor count go down to two, and with Oso's flipping scum, Poirot could suspect diddin and target diddin with arguments and you guys would have no option to target Oso because you killed him. diddin's saying he has nothing on Poirot indicates that he cannot handle an argument from Poirot and counterargue. Poirot would win that argument and diddin would not fare well from that.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #60) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:44 am

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edit: with Oso's flipping TOWN. And it is clear that if someone else was targetted with a nightkill, that nightkill was roleblocked. How else would this someone be protected from a nightkill besides roleblocking or the mafia simply not choosing to do so?
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Post Post #575 (isolation #61) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:14 am

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I would posit that if he's jailing someone then that someone is protected from any actions, even a mafia nightkill. And I was saying that attacking Humble can very well be a losing battle. But diddin's claiming to want to reread Humble based on the FLIMSY reason of Friend's replacing out is, and then seeing nothing is wrong with Humble, is fishy
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Post Post #577 (isolation #62) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:20 am

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Well, I think that at least me and Sotty and Oso believe that it makes sense for vezo to give us information. And I was a little peeved that vezo seemed to be hedging with his "People who don't want me to claim 0/3" tally after he was indicating a desire to reveal info at the request of 3 people including me and Sotty who also thought that vezo was stalling.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #63) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:22 am

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edit: Actually Oso was talking about KG giving information, but his "info not hurting town" I think applies to vezo's information as a principle too.
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Post Post #580 (isolation #64) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:34 am

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I going to admit to confirmation bias. But I think suspicion of Aranneus is odd, xvart? I would think he's a diligent townie because I seem him browsing a lot?
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Post Post #581 (isolation #65) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:36 am

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I'm not suspicious of Aranneus at all. Who is he a mafia suspect? He seems to like to play is all ,and scumhunt, too, and that strikes me as a town read.
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Post Post #582 (isolation #66) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:36 am

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edit: HOW is... I wont triple post again.
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Post Post #586 (isolation #67) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:23 am

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My suspicion of KageLord was by association with you. But you're scum is not indirect, but direct. Trying to get me, are you?, arr arr arr!
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Post Post #594 (isolation #68) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:27 am

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Oso wrote:VOTE: Sotty7
What?! And Oso is trusting diddin too much, me thinks. Or is Oso really playing us? I think Oso and diddin is another possible scum pair. I mean, diddin targets Sotty and Oso is trying to lynch Sotty? Bulls***
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Post Post #596 (isolation #69) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:41 am

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This game just vexes me kinda.
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That makes sense. I'd prefer to pressure KageLord with votes to force a claim (we don't know if his information is anti-town as he says, and it's probably not going to make much of a negative impact in comparison to the value of the information anyway), I'd prefer for that to happen rather than lynch Sotty.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #71) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:12 am

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xvart wrote:
Tazaro, 580 wrote:I going to admit to confirmation bias. But I think suspicion of Aranneus is odd, xvart? I would think he's a diligent townie because I seem him browsing a lot?
Did I say I was suspicious of him? He is most likely not scum, but a third party Lyncher who is not going to win because his target is Humble and Humble is not getting lynched. Are you intentionally trying to drum up scandal?
Oh, not at all; I did not know lyncher is a third party role.
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Post Post #603 (isolation #72) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:12 pm

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I don't know, maybe the best thing IS to policy lynch me for my inability to connect to this game and grasp what I actually can logically say about the situation.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #73) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:23 pm

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No, I mean it. I've haven't connected to this game. I've replaced into many games and I've got scattered brained.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #74) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:34 pm

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@q21, actually, I’m not that useless. I have insight and Aranneus wants to hear it so here I go: It's interesting that diddin went from saying that Friend may be panicking scum and therefore he'll reread Poirot (who replaced Friend) to saying that he wanted to RECONFIRM his town read on Poirot after he got two votes, a reread which was accomplished quickly without finding one thing that was "blatantly scummy". What about rereading formore subtle scumminess, could he have reread for that? Who in the world says they want to reconfirm a town read, diddin? It seemed like diddin wanted to set up something about Poirot and then realized he didn't want to fail at it and thus wanted to change his objective to "reconfirming". Something bothers me about this, and he was being very adamant about undermining what I was saying about vezo being a VI. And my defense of vezo is justified by the attacks on vezo by diddin that are of the same bad character as the "direct contradiction" that you pointed out, q21. Remember that contradiction you pointed out of diddin, q21? Someone mentioned Diddin did not talk about Sotty until it was convenient for him to mention the sotty’s jailing thing that he claimed to do with his town jailkeeping power role, and this claim was riding on the back of and derived nourishment from the no-nightkill that very well may have another explanation, which is a night that I see that Oso wants to figure out, and I really want to know the truth about.
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Post Post #609 (isolation #75) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:33 pm

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I would have voted KageLord, but no one else was and I have wanted diddin to die; my vote is on him. Why are we believing diddin? I need Sotty to come in here; he's got the right thinking.
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Post Post #610 (isolation #76) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:43 pm

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Sotty's right thinking is that he has belief that I can be town.
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Post Post #612 (isolation #77) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:55 pm

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I feel the same way about your semi-claim position as Oso did; is he ignoring your claim, too? He wanted to lynch somebody; I wanted to pressure somebody. And who are you parroting about additional "conspiracy theory," who first said that term? Hive mentality much? The diddin and KageLord theory was my thinking. Should I just keep quiet?
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Post Post #614 (isolation #78) » Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:59 pm

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I shouldn't have replaced, should I, Oso?
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Post Post #622 (isolation #79) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:41 am

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KageLord wrote:And Oso clearly didn't ignore my claim since he flat-out stated earlier that he didn't care too much at the time if it hurt town.
I didn't care about it's negative impact either:
Tazaro wrote:I'd prefer to pressure KageLord with votes to force a claim (we don't know if his information is anti-town as he says, and it's probably not going to make much of a negative impact in comparison to the value of the information anyway
And Oso, this is why I like Sotty, he also sees some of your stuff as bulls***; I mean, what am I supposed to think: either you actually were believing in Sotty's lynch as good risk for day two or you are tricking to see if we get duped by your suggestion (which is the "oso and diddin 'conspiracy' possibility). Are you going to suggest lynching me to see if I am just buddying with Sotty for scum purposes? I mean, I'd be an informational lynch and you'd get rid of an apparently annoying poster. And I take ombrage at q21's vote after not hearing much from him; don't discount him as a possible scum. I don't know about KageLord, but I suggest you remember what I said about vezo being a weak player if I get lynched for being a weak player, which will result in my flipping town. I don't want to be today's flavor of death. But I've been open with my ideas, not trying to manipulate anyone, and I am interested to see what exactly you guys think my plan was if I were scum.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #80) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:50 am

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Oso wrote:
Sotty7 wrote:This makes
no
sense. If you believe the power roles have “true claimed” why do you suddenly LEAP to the conclusion that I was blocked from making the kill? AKA, if you believe there is a town watcher, JK and ??? why does that mean I was the one doing the killing? Why can't it mean that I was just sat at home being
protected
? The power roles claiming have nothing to do with me or my role. You are really reaching bad here.
If you want to play
deliberately dense
here, that's fine by me.
Gee golly, insult mode at this juncture. Sheesh.
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Post Post #628 (isolation #81) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:11 am

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Heh, that's sensible, Oso. I think I'd best follow reason:
UNVOTE

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Post Post #633 (isolation #82) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:17 am

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The reasoning of what it's all about is: There wasn't a nightkill AND sotty7 was claimed by diddin to be jailed.
Now, do you guys want to take diddin's claim with a major mafiagoon-sized grain of salt or not? What do you say about this question, Sotty7?
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Post Post #636 (isolation #83) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:22 am

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I believe you Sotty, Oso is playing it real slippery. "Both Poirot and myself mentioned yesterday that we thought you had soft claimed" said Oso. Conspiracy post incoming: So... what, you, Oso, mentioned the soft claim to support the idea that vezo would have been the NK target instead of Sotty?
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Post Post #639 (isolation #84) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:30 am

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Vezo, since when do you talk about not rushing wagons?
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Post Post #641 (isolation #85) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:36 am

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Now, I think you could actually be the scum partner, Vezo.
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Post Post #644 (isolation #86) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:41 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:
Oso wrote:I just realized something. I never unvoted.

Unvote:
Vote: Sotty7
Awesome. I am fascinated.
:igmeou:
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Post Post #646 (isolation #87) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:48 am

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Are you guys trying to eclipse the posting above? Oso has received three votes on this page.
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Post Post #648 (isolation #88) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:23 am

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He can't; that is the wrongest post he's made and it looks like an overreaction to my implicit idea that he's protecting Oso to me.
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Post Post #650 (isolation #89) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:05 am

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If you guys want me to, I can replace out of this game. But I want to hear if you guys want me to.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #90) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:15 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:
Tazaro wrote:If you guys want me to, I can replace out of this game. But I want to hear if you guys want me to.
As long as don't get modkilled (angry face) I am fine with you.
Nice inside joke. And diddin, it's not flailing; Poirot's post indicates frustration that I don't want to perpetuate.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #91) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:26 am

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Ninja'd by SSBF. Actually, since I like the idea that my leaving can improve the smoothness of the operation of the game, it wouldn't make sense to have people waste room with posts about what they think about whether I should replace.
@MOD: Replace me, please.
Goodbye, this thread is not for me, guys.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #92) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:28 am

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@MOD: Actually, I saw SSBF request. DON'T REPLACE ME
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Post Post #659 (isolation #93) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:31 am

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vezo: ... What??
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Post Post #660 (isolation #94) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:36 am

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Oh, I think you forgot a "not," vezo.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #95) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:46 am

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xvart, I can vote for diddin too, but Oso is sticking out to me also.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #96) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:57 am

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I think it's possible that KageLord roleblocked Oso's attempt at nighkilling and diddin did whatever he did or didn't do. diddin's real role is not certain, but this would mean that Poirot is the innocent neighbor who had TWO scum neighbors Oso and diddin.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #97) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:00 am

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Double post: diddin could be a mafia goon who did not submit the nightkill and is pretending to be a town jailkeeper and made up his action of targetting Sotty.
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Post Post #669 (isolation #98) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:09 am

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Me and xvart are discussing possibilities, vezo. My double post was contribution in response to xvart. Where's your contribution, vezo?
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Post Post #670 (isolation #99) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:19 am

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@xvart, putting my thoughts together like I should have:
Tazaro wrote:I think it's possible that KageLord roleblocked Oso's attempt at nighkilling and diddin did whatever he did or didn't do. diddin's real role is not certain--diddin could be a mafia goon who did not submit the nightkill and is pretending to be a town jailkeeper and made up his action of targetting Sotty; this would mean that Poirot is the innocent neighbor who had TWO scum neighbors Oso and diddin.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #100) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:27 am

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It is more likely that one town roleblocker is at play.
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Post Post #675 (isolation #101) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:49 am

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You are telling us you are not a roleblocker, KageLord. Well, you targetted Oso, and I do not believe you have told us why or in what capacity you targetted him. Do you worry about being nightkilled, KageLord? Because you are not going to be able to inform us of anything when you are dead. Why did you target Oso, can you possible tell us that without revealing your role if you refuse to reveal that role?
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Post Post #676 (isolation #102) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:01 am

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Actually, I see that the why and the what would be connected.
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Post Post #680 (isolation #103) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:14 am

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Oso wrote:
KageLord wrote:Wait... is there a such thing as a town RB?.....
:eek:

That was a joke, right?
Hmm.. I mean it might be his way to be coy about actually being that role but not telling us.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #104) » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:03 pm

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I'm one of the VIs, aren't I? lol to that
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Post Post #697 (isolation #105) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:41 am

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I will answer these questions.
1) You perpetually ignore me, why?
2) You haven't read the game, why?
3) Why is vezok town? Why did you say he was town so much before he claimed?
- a) Develop on whatever meta you have.
4) Claim your Role and what actions did you perform, if any.
5) Why do you think (Aranneus) was scumhunting?
Ultra Mega Archi Super Hand Of Suspicion on Tazaro
6) What do you have to say?
*********************
1) Poirot, I don't interact with you because you post periodically in installments. I don't mention you very much because I don't have any rational basis for suspecting you. And the fact that I did suspect you is attests to my wishy-washiness. Yes, I see one person's post and am in agreement, then I see another's and am like "wait a minute." I'm ostensibly indecisive and act on what pops in my brain.
2) I'm lazy and prefer to make decisions from the fresh current of posts that come in after I replace.
3) Honestly, I do not know if vezo is town. But I wanted to emphasize his VIness because it seemed like people (like diddin) were drumming up suspicion and wanting to push an easy mislynch. I'm more concerned about and more believing of the likelihood of the idea that he's being mislynched than that he's scum.
a)vezo is a player who is short on substance and scum hunting.
4) My claim is vanilla townie. Guess if that's true.
5) Aranneus was analyzing people's posts. He critiqued me even though I'm not scum. He's doing his job in this game.
6)SSBF really thinks I'm scum, he apparently doesn't want me to slip through. I know he wants to win, but I'm not scum, I'm just a weird player, kind of like vezo but with different things that are annoying about me.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #106) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:15 am

Post by Tazaro »

Oh, when I answered Poirot's questions, I read too quickly and thought question six was about Super SB's suspicion of me. I want you guys to get diddin when I'm lynched.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #107) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:20 am

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My last double post: I guess I saw "Super" and "suspicion" and linked them together in a Glenn Beck fashion. I hope I get a cookie for my answers to Poirot's questions.
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Maybe Subservience to Protocol isn't tantamount to Solution to Problem ...
"A little bit of yourself goes a long way"
Blue paint strokes of sadness that leave a trace of meaningfulness
Tell me, O Karen,
Do you feel better
After getting your pound of flesh?
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Post Post #703 (isolation #108) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:00 am

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Man, I really need to make improvements to my town play.
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Maybe Subservience to Protocol isn't tantamount to Solution to Problem ...
"A little bit of yourself goes a long way"
Blue paint strokes of sadness that leave a trace of meaningfulness
Tell me, O Karen,
Do you feel better
After getting your pound of flesh?
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Post Post #707 (isolation #109) » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:39 pm

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Bah, go town.
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"A little bit of yourself goes a long way"
Blue paint strokes of sadness that leave a trace of meaningfulness
Tell me, O Karen,
Do you feel better
After getting your pound of flesh?
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Post Post #958 (isolation #110) » Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:54 am

Post by Tazaro »

Yay, you people won despite the taz spaz factor :)
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Maybe Subservience to Protocol isn't tantamount to Solution to Problem ...
"A little bit of yourself goes a long way"
Blue paint strokes of sadness that leave a trace of meaningfulness
Tell me, O Karen,
Do you feel better
After getting your pound of flesh?
Tazaro
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Post Post #960 (isolation #111) » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:05 pm

Post by Tazaro »

I read some of the stuff I wrote in this thread, and I got a dose of humor
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Maybe Subservience to Protocol isn't tantamount to Solution to Problem ...
"A little bit of yourself goes a long way"
Blue paint strokes of sadness that leave a trace of meaningfulness
Tell me, O Karen,
Do you feel better
After getting your pound of flesh?

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