Mini 1046 - Murder in the Desert (Game Over!)

[Slaxx]

Oh and Boberz, I don't know the setup. I have played as mafia twice here and both times mafia chose who made the kill. It was just an assumption I had.

Also Everyone seemed to agree with this assumption...sooo why just call me out?

[Slaxx]

The last time I had someone call me out on an assumption (it was kunkstar in DCI mafia) about setup they wound up being scum.

I said there were probably 3 mafia and he got all up in my face about it. The next day an SK flipped. Yeah, there were two mafia and he was one of them. So was Nic. /waves to Nic.

[Slaxx]

Well I already caught plenty of shit on going back on your read, so whats the point? I said I was confused and had a town read on everyone farther back, although I did never explain it, its not like I just took this stance.

Xvart, If you dont give alternate FoSs, you realize how useless you are FMPOV right?

[Slaxx]

No xvart, that isn't a fucking answer for Christ's sake if you flip town I am going to develop a hernia.

[Slaxx]

Why answer Parama and not me?

I didn;t say i didn't think you werent town, I said I am going to be pissed if you are!

[Slaxx]

...You listed two other scum reads...

Xvart. I thought you were possibly being deflective but I think you're really just that dense.

[Slaxx]

I was thinking now since after his lynch he could be pushing on Socrates so much to try to direct attention away from him but my gut is still just meh. I feel almost "guilty" about this lynch.

[Slaxx]

Not Parama the hell is this D:

[Slaxx]

Also why can't there be a tracker and a watcher? I know its very common over at EM.

[Slaxx]

Dh... Hm.

So a tracker watcher and dh. Idk.

[Slaxx]

?

[Slaxx]

We have 2 claimed PRs and 1 Dead one, everyone is outed. Why not claim O.o

[Slaxx]

If you're not comfortable then don't.

[Slaxx]

I am ready to claim ^^

I think I know what DH is

[Slaxx]

I'll go second. Townie.

[Slaxx]

So:

Charter/WOMC/Slaxx:Townie
Xine: Tracker
DH: Mystery Role
Socrates/Boberz/Lowell:?

[Slaxx]

Lowell should get in here and provide a nice long post about scum reads and why...I will also do my part and reread.

I trust Demon's claim 100%.

I trust Xine's claim about 90%.

The reason for the difference is that Xine could be a mafia tracker, even though I doubt it. But regardless she followed DH and confirmed him.


Slaxx's game plan: Hope we lynch scum today, then Xine tracks whoever she wants cleared with her in endgame.

If not, same plan really.

[Slaxx]

I really thought Charter was a PR.

[Slaxx]

Meh I was going to claim Vanilla Townie but I decided to be cute and copy exactly what charter said except replace it with second. I wouldn't make a case out of it.

Not that Lowell doesn't have his fair share ox explaining to do, because he does.

[Slaxx]

I never read my role PM or pay attention to the wording :/

And I didn't quote the role PM D:

And about your FoS....Lowell needs to explain the two skills part, because that sounds like a chunk of a different role PM.

[Slaxx]

-Read the flavor of my role PM

[Slaxx]

Actually, can we popcorn FoS?

[Slaxx]

If we lynch scum today, who to traxorz? Leave it up to Xine or vote on it as a town? No offense but her traxorz havent been the best of choices, although I have to say this one worked out beautifully.

[Slaxx]

"Bub/Weaps: Dead Neutral at the moment. Only difference between the two is that Weaps has voted, Bub has not. Both strike me as players who are getting themselves oriented and getting into the game but I can't even make a guess on alignment."

I really hate this line by Oso. I can;t get it out of my head.

DH, thoughts/comments?

[Slaxx]

I am still here but I have 3 exams this week so my case will be this weekend after my brain stops hurting. I will occasionally take a break and make witty comments such as this:

lol@unceremonial

[Slaxx]

No one explain any of these. In fact, this discussion is over. Let Lowell defend himself.

[Slaxx]

If you go into the thread and read looking for WOMC scumtells, you're going to find them. Why not go in neutral, its better that way.

[Slaxx]

Boberz if you're trying to make a case on DH, just skip it. Tracker confirmed him, so unless they are both mafia, then he is town no matter what. I can't see why any ?Mafia PR would visit Xine. Roleblocker is dead and Rolecop wouldnt investigate someone who claimed herp a derp.

[Slaxx]

Just a reminder, if Lowell flips town, Xine, make sure you track a random person. I want you to reply to this so I know you read it.

[Slaxx]

Next time I will actually read the preview comment.

[Slaxx]

VOTE: Lowell

[Slaxx]

...? That doesn't explain anything?

[Slaxx]

Idk if him attacking me is really characteristic of scum backed into a corner. Charter, you have been really halfhearted about the last two lynches. Don't make me doubt you :/

[Slaxx]

/twitch

[Slaxx]

WOMC, Hammer, seriously.

[Slaxx]

I want cake

Also I want this flip to happen tonight because I will seriously be thinking about this tomorrow when I take my exams xD...My mind wanders...

[Slaxx]

Well I think we know who the last scum is if Lowell flips scum >.>

[Slaxx]

Vote Lowell and everything will be okay.

[Slaxx]

UGH.

[Slaxx]

boberz, feel free to come in and hammer this anytime.

[Slaxx]

Huh

[Slaxx]

DH you're one of my new favorite players to play with D:

I will make you proud

[Slaxx]

Rivers don't speak english, aren't sentient, and don't rationalize. Fail analogy.

[Slaxx]

u b trollin

[Slaxx]

/waves at Xine

Also I am studying history of young Europe...Might I suggest a ziggurat to pray to the gods? Worked well for them.

[Slaxx]

This December pm me dh. Remind me to kick nico in the shin when I see him.

[Slaxx]

Were high school friends but go to different colleges. He won't be within kicking range until winter break.

[Slaxx]

Haha no

[Slaxx]

We don't lynch on mylo. We wait for the doc to die. I am patient.

Vote: No lynch

[Slaxx]

Woah. That is awesome O.o

unvote

[Slaxx]

So why would scum no kill and give us an extra lynch?

Unless they tried to kill the tracker instead of DH?

Or DH is scum and didn't want any heat on him.

I don't think DH is scum though.

But why not kill the doctor...it doesn't make any sense? Scum must think they can survive another mislynch.

[Slaxx]

Yawn.

Who is scum Xine?

[Slaxx]

Idk. I will look over the thread this evening. Charter ain't looking so hot off the top of my head.

[Slaxx]

Just letting you know I am not going to get the ISO up tonight. I guess my organic chem professor thought it would be cute to put the lab assignment due tomorrow at 2 up at 10 PM tonight, so yeah.

Tomorrow is when I have lab so I probably won't be here until Wednesday. Figured I would let you guys know.

[Slaxx]

I thought there were 6 too boberz.

[Slaxx]

Alright well my first two classes got cancelled so I finished up a bunch of stuff this morning so after lab tonight I promise I will do another reread.

[Slaxx]

I already think I justified the CES kill.

[Slaxx]

When I was making the xvart case, I think.

Anyway Bub only pushed on CES. I noticed it when I was looking at who Bub interacted with. So the kill kind of made sense, although it wouldn't have been my choice. I still think he would have been decent mislynch fodder. Shrug.

[Slaxx]

How long have you been waiting to play that card?

[Slaxx]

Hell yeah I was rocking a 70 something win % on my alt....dont mind the fact that it was only like a 30 game sample size >>

Also WOMC, your defending reeked of lolscum trying to defend a townie for town cred. The fact that you pulled it out today as a defense to a (baseless WIFOM) accusation doesnt help the case.

Can you just summarize why you thought he was town one more time?

[Slaxx]

That just doesn't cut it for me. Why is self confidence a town tell to you?

[Slaxx]

I want Soc input for any decisions are made.

[Slaxx]

You're both assuming DH is going to be alive tomorrow.

[Slaxx]

Not commenting on your death, it will only help scum make a good night kill.

WOMC, I don't think I am lynching you today. I Want to hear moar Soc, even if we have to wait for prod/replacement.

[Slaxx]

/claps and giggles at pretty colors.

[Slaxx]

We're not giving opinions just in case scum can choose who sends in their night kill. The more we talk about PRs the more it helps scum. End story. Xine, just choose, its cool. Seriously.

[Slaxx]

staged.

[Slaxx]

Haha its possible Xine. Most mini normals I have played in scum choose who sends in the night kill, but it might be that he was in charge of it, because I have seen that too.

[Slaxx]

We should really judge him on his play and speculate about that though. which is why I want to give him a chance to post here.

[Slaxx]

We're not going to get a lynch today no matter who I vote if Soc doesnt show up.

[Slaxx]

I dont want to lynch Soc, I want Soc's replacement, a full catch up post, and a vote with a tie in to the catch up post. Thats all I ask for.

[Slaxx]

Then if I don't like what he has to say I might lynch him :p

[Slaxx]

Idk. I had gut town read but lately he has just been on the back of all the bandwagons.

[Slaxx]

I am never good with FoSs until everyone posts.. When someone isn't posting, its like trying to solve a math problem with an extra variable.

[Slaxx]

I just clicked the youtube link.

DH is awesome xD

[Slaxx]

WOMC, why is this madness to you

[Slaxx]

I am pretty sure Bob is town. I was thinking things through and I remember the whole case he put up on Bub. It would be kind of hard to fake those interactions.

Weapons is Neutral.

Anyway, whatever. I'm ready to hammer, this game is stale.

I'll wait for town's consensus first though.

[Slaxx]

Wait...I am the only one left huh? Usually I am the first on a wagon.

vote charter

And so it was.

Xine, remember to track random of course.

[Slaxx]

Lol overkill.

Nic, please add in the flavor some sort of humorous thing about Xine uneedingly tormenting Charter after he was strung up, God knows I need it.

[Slaxx]

Come on Nic.

[Slaxx]

Sigh.

Needs more flip.

[Slaxx]

DH do something entertaining

[Slaxx]

LOL

/claps and giggles

[Slaxx]

I'm a frayed knot lollll

[Slaxx]

Keep in mind tomorrow might be lylo

SO DO NOT VOTE.

DO

NOT

VOTE.

If charter flips town. Kthx.

[Slaxx]

Also DH if you die tonight I will miss you bunches.

[Slaxx]

No one vote.

No
One
Vote

Xine, go.

[Slaxx]

Im off to bed, but I say we popcorn FoS Today, then Xine outs her report.

So Xine, don't out your report. If I may, I suggest Oso makes his FoSs first, and then we go from there.

If I don't get my choice, then we let Xine pick.

[Slaxx]

We're assuming today is llo, meaning two scum. Who is weapons accomplice?

[Slaxx]

lollll llo

lylo

[Slaxx]

Fair enough.

[Slaxx]

Hey Xine, I've seen you've read my post. We're waiting on Weapons now.

[Slaxx]

Mafia Tracker and Mafia Roleblocker Vs. Watcher and Doctor is absolutely ridiculous.

Its not happening. Plus Xine was told to wait for her claim today. Boberz, you can go next man.

Xine is town, and Boberz is town from d1 interactions with Bub. Pretty confident about that. That only leaves Oso and Weapons.

Oso only chose one person to pick on because that person is his buddy and in order to get through this game he'll need the town cred. I encourage you to go back (this is mainly at Xine and boberz) and look who is in Oso's last post before his return. Look at Bub and Weapons grouped together in the "Neutral" category. As you may or may not know about me, I like to pick up town tells and use PoE to find scum. As I have said, there is no way Xine is scum. If she is, I will personally kick Nic in the shins next time I see him, because that setup would be crazy unbalanced.

Boberz cluelessness and his general interactions with Bub make him unlikely to be scum. As I (might) have said already, I think when he thought he was voting Bud and he wasnt that was one towntell to me. I will look more into him but my gut says no.

So boberz, you're up man. Go.

[Slaxx]

Xine, feel free to address WOMC's case against you, but a lot of it is recycled from past suspicions on you that have already been explained.

[Slaxx]

Mainly the no result on my track boberz, but of course none of us know how clear that makes me (we don't know if a certain mafia sends in the night kill, but thats the way I have seen it, so technically I am like 50% clear, which really isn't clear at all).

But yes, no one else seems to suspect me, which of course, regardless of alignment, is good to me.

Can you explain what worries you about me? Gut isnt enough in lylo, and as long as Xine is legit and we don't lynch you or I today, then its going to be me and you tomorrow in lylo along with one other person. I want to try to clear it up the best I can for you.

[Slaxx]

Xine, you're up.

Lets hope you got something, you seem to be in a good mood.

[Slaxx]

Actually, it was a good move Xine. I don't have a problem with it.

It loos like Weapons+Oso will be the lynch today, but we can let them fight amongst themselves on who will go first.

[Slaxx]

I'm going to read over boberz one more time, probably not until late late tomorrow or late saturday just to make sure I am not missing something, but I agree with gut town boberz view.

[Slaxx]

Actually, curiosity peaked me tonight, and there were many times where WOMC would make a case on Oso/Soc but then be voting someone else.

It happened once with Xine and once with Charter, and then of course there was Lowell. I'll get into more detail and fact check myself tomorrow, but I am pretty sure WOMC was never on a big Soc BW, or if there ever was one anyway. Checking now.

And Boberz, Xine's track should help prove my not scumness to you but you can still ask me. I'm an open book.

[Slaxx]

Oso, I have been cleared by tracking twice. Also, I have put out more of a case on you then just PoE, if you care to read what I just wrote. And I know you did because you just said you preview edited.

Boberz, Oso was waiting for your reads before he outted his. He is going to play off your gut scum read of me tomorrow, assuming we make it that far.

[Slaxx]

Just out of curiosity Oso...Why WOMC first? I mean, you've FoSed me since d1 after all. I should be a stronger read for you.

[Slaxx]

The whole point of outting popcorn FoSs was to give two scum reads before the track, that way we could make connections and derive data based on those FoSs if Xine got a positive track. You failed to do this. Anyway, I am confident its Oso/WOMC.

Oso, you're the only one who is pushing on me for being scum (I would say think but I know you don't think that). You're going to make more of a case than POE FYPOV, because from everyone else's point of view you and weapons are the obvious scum.

Anyway,

Vote WOMC

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Edit: The results that CLEARED ME. Xine made the right move there, I would have been the one to send in the night kill if I was scum because of the universal town read on me. The fact that I have been cleared twice now by a tracker report, both when there were two scum alive, and the second one clearing me by logic that anyone should understand.

[Slaxx]

No, I will tell you why you are voting WOMC. Its your only hope of getting town cred for 3 way lylo tomorrow (assuming that happens). Well you're not going to get it, because tomorrow I am going to tear apart the ingenuine comments between you and WOMC so hard that boberz is going to feel like he just witnessed the raising of the world's savior.

[Slaxx]

Boberz will make the right decision, the evidence for me being town is ridiculous.

[Slaxx]

Womc wasn't scum then. Well. Chalk this up as my worst town performance ever. Sorry guys.

[Slaxx]

Boberz, it doesnt matter how you had to ake it, but you did well doing it.

I apologize to the whole town, this loss was mostly my fault.


Xine, you did very well.
DH, we collectively sucked xD but I still love you!
Nicodemus, thanks for not making a mafia tracker and roleblocker Vs watcher and doc. Your shins will be spared.
Oso, I had a feeling you were scum the whole game, but you did good manipulating me regardless.
Parama: sorry man.
WOMC: Really sorry.
Charter, Lowell, Xvart: SORRY D:

[Slaxx]

By the way, Nic and I are modding a large normal soon, so if you liked his modding/flavor, you should hop on in our game.

[Slaxx]

I am sorry I made a case on you xvart, but Ive said this many times: I am really good at picking out town tells when people are under pressure. But thats why I suck at lylo situations: you cant put pressure on people in lylo. You can, but its just not the same as voting them. There was probably a better way to go about getting off your bandwagon. Anyway, sorry I forced that lynch on you and sorry I hammered you even though I figured you were town. Its something town should never do and for that I really hurt our chances.

[Slaxx]

I dont know, I'll be ready after all my games besides Scott Pilgrim and Invasion of Liten finish, or I die/get lynched in them. Nic is probably ready now. I am under the impression I can mod two at once, correct? Because I am on the queue to mod a minitheme too.

[Slaxx]

You don't know how good that made you look boberz. Seriously.

[Slaxx]

When I handed out CES the cop role PM in the game I modded and saw him play the same way I started to think he might have been PR.

Short version: your play is consistent as far as I can tell between VT and PR

[Slaxx]

he liked the hell of it, not loved the hell out of it. Geez

[Slaxx]

i ctually read it since nic and I are IRL friends. its an obligation.

SIGNUP FOR OUR MINI NORMAL WHEN YOU SEE IT KTHX