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Equinox, thanks for disappearing for a few days. Were you aware of the BaM ruleset when you agreed to replace in? (Personally, I wasn't)
Not to seem like a jerk, but disappearing for a few days is a pretty big deal considering the deadline length. And thanks for changing your avatar after your first post.-
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Ok, fine, Ice. I can see what you mean by less content. I figured the general assumption would be for post frequency to go up to make up for the shorter deadline, thus resulting in about the same amount of content.
Oso's remark struck me odd for reasons described by llama. I can sort of follow his reasoning now.Unvote
Also, Oso, there's no reason NOT to give a reason with a random vote, either. Whereas giving a reason may or may not provoke a response.-
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My main objection here is that while I could see someone describing my overall posting style as "antsy," saying that every single post I've made is "antsy" feels like slightly inaccurate rhetoric.Also, Netlava places a random vote on Oso, for "being ansty" and "antsy could describe the tone ofevery oneof his posts since then.-
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Hmm, this is interesting. I can't tell if you are finding Zinive suspicious or if you are defending him. You seem a bit predisposed to finding Zinive suspicious, though...About Zinive's case, sure is suspicious, but wouldn't it be very silly of him to jump on a wagon that needs 4 more votes? I don't see a big deal there, yet.-
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Sorry for triple posting, but one last thought:
It's probably better not to post entire scumlists. Transparency is good and all, but townies can never really be completely transparent to town, whereas townies are almost always completely transparent to scum. Letting scum have all that information makes it easier for them to predict what's going to happen in the game and choose night actions.-
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Yeah, shattered's posts are definitely weird right now, to say the least. They don't make any sense, so I can't tell if he's being serious or not.
This is lol...Xine is obvTown; I know of her meta through the site and she certainly doesn't strike me as a liar. Since she claims she has "not yet" played as scum, I believe her.
I actually thought ICE had posted this (speaking for shattered) when I first read this. But it's strange for shattered to post this because it contradicts an earlier post:Alternate (closer to reality) answer: I'm an insufferable asshole.
@Shattered: Are you serious or joking in your posts?There's a difference in being self-confident (like I am) and being rude. (as you are).-
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Does it really matter how I came to the conclusion that Oso was antsy? I read his post, thought to myself, "Oso seems antsy" and voted Oso. His quick response on some side topic seemed, well, antsy.
Also, I said that I could see your point. I didn't say you were right. I figured you could be scum making up excuses to explain your drop in activity. When I saw that your activity was fine, it became a nonissue, and I stopped caring. Your excuse is still pointless and invalid, either way.
As for my vote on Fernando, it's really not that critical when I decide to move it. I'll move it if the time comes.-
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M=W, yes I find it better to focus on one player at a time.
Ice, I have already responded to your "case."
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ONE VOTE after fernando posts does not mean he has suddenly stopped lurking, nor does it mean I have to immediately move my vote. And once a player has lurked, that player has lurked. Being more active afterwards does not change the fact that he WAS lurking.
FTR, I would consider the following players lurking:
fernando, perardua, cruelty, and me=weird. Equinox just started posting today and Xine has been getting by. IMO, it would be stupid of me to draw conclusions at this point when nearly half of the players haven't posted that much. I think it's a major mistake to only scumhunt among the active half of the town, and ignore the other half, expecting them to eventually up their activity.
Anyways, I will post some thoughts on some players later.-
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Ice, I already explained how I came up with antsy and responded to everything. Your case on me consists of the following:
1. I voted someone for being antsy
Response: That's just what I thought.
2. I conceded a point
Response: I only conceded the fact that your activity was fine. The only reason why I cared about your "excuse" in the first place was because I thought you might be preparing to post less (as scum).
3. I kept my vote on fernando when he "stopped" lurking
Response: I can let my vote sit for a bit, okay? And fernando apparently has not stopped lurking.-
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Oso's case on llama is interesting. I don't think much of the contradiction part. The main part that intrigues me is this:
The main thing I find interesting is that llama speaks on Ice's behalf.Ice and I sort of "dove into the trenches" earlier with some reachy accusations to get the ball rolling,
Ice, what do you think of llama's "reachy" comment?-
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I still don't get fernando's comment on Zinive.
I mean it's such an awkward stance. I bought his explanation initially but there are still a couple things amiss:About Zinive's case, sure is suspicious, but wouldn't it be very silly of him to jump on a wagon that needs 4 more votes? I don't see a big deal there, yet.
1) He says Zinive is suspicious, but it's not a big dealyet
I get the feeling that he's vacillating back and forth on his stance on Zinive.
2) He says he doesn't believe that Zinive was going for a lynch with his vote
If this is the case, why does he find Zinive suspicious?
3) He implies it's scummy to join a bandwagon too quickly
Yet no mention of llama who did in fact join a wagon "too quickly." In fact, Zinive never wagoned anyone.
The thing is, I feel like fernando has perhaps dropped knowledge of Zinive's alignment (which would be guilty, in this case). If this is correct, then fernando and Zinive would be likely scumbuddies.
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Why fernando makes a good lynch:
1) Has made one game-related post, one of which has been scummy.
2) Has been clearly lurking, as opposed to MIA. He has logged in between now and his most recent post, but he has not posted.
Anyways the main point of fernando's case is this:He says Zinive is suspicious, and then disputes the very reasons for which he finds (Zinive) suspicious. So why would (Fernando) say Zinive is suspicious in the first place?
The quote is here:
The thing is, if I were fernando and I found Zinive suspicious for wagoning, I would:About Zinive's case, sure is suspicious, but wouldn't it be very silly of him to jump on a wagon that needs 4 more votes? I don't see a big deal there, yet.
a) Find Zinive suspicious
If I don't think it's a big deal, I would:
a) Not find Zinive suspicious
Under NO circumstances would I say both because the two contradict. I'm thinking Fernando, as scum, wants to have his cake and eat it too. He gives his view as an all-knowing observer (defends Zinive), but at the same time makes the opportunistic move (finds Zinive suspicious).
And also, he swings back and forth not once, but twice. In other words, "Zinive is suspicious, but it's not a big deal, but notyet."
Overall, Fernando is my pick for a lynch and hopefully this clarifies my stance regarding Fernando and Zinive.-
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