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Hello Everyone.
Nice to meet you all.
*bows*

I'm currently reading the entire thread.

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Papa Zito wanted my top 3 so here goes:

1. RobCapone for his sarcasm, also because of what GreyICE pointed out earlier this page about him jumping to Conclusions.

2. Barry Allen Its just a gut feeling.

3. Snake Eyes seems like to me he has been lurking a bit.

Vote:RobCapone

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Well I am a bit new to this for one.
And I guess you could say my gut is inexperienced but it is still there none the less.
And yes lurking, its just my opinion.

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Oh cool. You guys have finally realized who's scum.

Unvote, Vote: RobCapone

See I was right about you lurking

p.edit - I have not given up, I won't be lynched today

You seem very confident.

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He's setting up for a PR claim.

Sigh.

Penpen what do you think of our friend Hiraki here.

I see Hiraki as the opposite of RobCapone.
I don't understand why he would make a post saying that he gives up for unless, he is scum.

Unvote

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Snake, pretty sure I said a while back subs and hiraki were scum, I never wish washed, those 2 are still scum, hiraki proved it with the way he swooped in and voted

And pen, I never said I gave up, ice implied it but it's not true

My apologies I didn't specify. I wasn't talking about you I was talking about Hiraki.

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I wish Bill would post more.

Hiraki, Who do you think are town?

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I don't think rob is lurking at all.
I mean come on he has 6 posts on page 17 for crying out loud.

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oops I read Hiraki's post wrong.

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penpen is doomed to slowly drive me nuts, isn't he?

I don't want to drive you nuts.
Being crazy isn't all that fun.

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Your right mocking did post once.

Makes me wonder if Subgenius was trying to hide that info or if he was trying to be deceptive for some reason.

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@rob
One thing I don't get, how is Hiraki's vote opportunistic when he called you out as lynch material days ago in post 200? It's not like he's coming out of nowhere. It'd be more surprising if he didn't switch his vote to you.

And yeah, I saw that after I posted. I don't know how I forgot about that one... Honestly, I assumed you meant wikkiden rather than mocking. I still really don't follow your logic, but thanks for answering, I suppose.

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Nope, just managed to forget a one line post with no content.

oh ok, your right. We are all human after all.

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I've decided to put my vote back on Rob. I don't think he is doing a very good job scum hunting even though he is posting a lot.

Vote:RobCapone

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and I won't call out names just yet but if you can be seen atleast 3 times browsing this forum and you don't post anything at all, that is not helping the flow of the game.

That means nothing, I leave my browser up most of the time and I have it reload every 5 seconds even when I'm not at the computer. Browsing the forum is not a scum tell.

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Unvote

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Vote:Barry Allen

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I see rob now as being as PRO Town as Papa Zito and everyone knows papa zito is pro town.

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Pie is OK - but not cake.....the cake is a lie...

I think the Pie is a lie also. Which means he is misrepresenting the pie.
And I think that is scummy.

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how did I go from scummy bad scum hunter to ProTown other than Zito said he doesn't see scum motivation for my acrtions

Well you have posted a lot since I voted for you the second time and your posts have convinced me your not scum.
I mean since your town you wouldn't want the town to vote for you right?

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I have posted a case throughout the thread

your ACTIVE lurking
your refusal to make a case when asked yet you ask others to make a case
your opportunstic swooping out of nowhere when my bandwagon starts to vote me an put me L-3 I believe
your defending your accuser (see my rapist or baseball card analogy, they both fit)
you purposely trying to turn things I say into a scumtell or scummy aka strawman

now where the fuck is your case on Bill, if you don't post a case on bill in your next post than it is an admission of guilt and we can lynch you.

You've made some really valid points there.

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and you still ignore my questions.

Oh I thought I had answered them all, already.
What is it that you need to know?

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GreyICE, The reason I asked Hiraki Who do you think are town is because I was suspicious of him.

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I'd be proud of it. You're just a whimp ICE!

Penpen: Do you have any reasoning why? Or was it just a vibe?

Just a vibe

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I just confirmed in on my first official Newbie game yay!

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Unvote

At this point I'm not really sure who to vote for right now. There seems to be a good case on bill I think.

That case pretty much being because he defended EA and then voted EA.
And then at the end of Bill's post #146 it sounds like to me he really wanted EA
lynched quickly.

Hiraki, please explain why GREYIce is your archenemy?

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Vote:Erratus Apathos

It ain't march yet chill.

And what are the questions people have for me?

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So many come to mind the first

were you dropped on your head?

But seriously the most obvious, why are you now voting for EA?

Because he is pushing to lynch someone quickly.

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That whole thing seems kinda weird.
He could have made a mistake, but then again he could have made a mistake BECAUSE he is scum.
I think I understand why people are voting for him.

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UNVOTE VOTE:GREYICE

does that make you happy papa zito?

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Vote: Papa Zito

For convincing me to vote to lynch a townie.

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Vote: Papa Zito

For convincing me to vote to lynch a townie.

OK, that makes 9 people he's expressed suspicion of. penpen, what do you have to say about the accusation that you're basically just flinging random votes around?

Well I don't see anything wrong with that since most of what you are talking about is Day 1.

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I'm checking in on my work laptop from a meeting in Orlando Florida (sounds great? Well, I'm in a hotel on the Disney property but won't visit one single attraction because I'm in meetings all the way through to getting on the flight back tomorrow night................but that's life). If I'm fortunate I will have one chance to check in tomorrow from the airport...otherwise I will be back on sometime Thursday evening Eastern Time USA. Just a couple of notes for right now...

@ bvoigt - Unfortunately, there were several players including myself on several BWs D1 - all I can tell you is that I made a case on each vote that I cast. I didn't sheep, and I didn't throw a vote out for no reason (see Penpen). I still DO worry about Bill, but before getting to a vote for anyone in this day phase I do want to get back home and look at my notes from D1 (and obviously catch up on any discussion that takes place between now and then). That being said, one of the places where we both have concern is related to Penpen...

@ Penpen...you really need to add some content. The voting all over the place does look random, and frankly it looks either VI or scum...the question is simply which one. Your vote post:

UNVOTE VOTE:GREYICE

does that make you happy papa zito?

Looks more like an appeal to please the town than actually a serious vote...and that was the hammer. And yes, a lot of the votes we're talking about were D1 - but considering how many different people you've voted for this is a legitimate issue to discuss. I hate to call anyone VI - but you're either that or scum. Please post something more so we can figure out which is which....or if there is really some method to your madness here.

I will be back home around midnight Wednesday my time - again, if I can post from the airport before leaving I will, but otherwise I will be back on late Thursday after work.

Well yes I am trying to appeal to the town because I don't want to see the town lynch a townie.

What I'm thinking right now is that Papa Zito is scum because he encouraged me to vote for someone that I think he knew was town.

I can't do anything about what happened in day 1 all I can do is vote for who I think is scum and give my opinion.

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Vote: Papa Zito

For convincing me to vote to lynch a townie.

OK, that makes 9 people he's expressed suspicion of. penpen, what do you have to say about the accusation that you're basically just flinging random votes around?

Well I don't see anything wrong with that since most of what you are talking about is Day 1.

What do you mean? Even on Day 1, you should have at least a general idea of your suspicions.

Well I just felt like I didn't have much to work with at all.

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Speaking of content I wonder why Papa Zito hasn't posted yet?

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Speaking of content I wonder why Papa Zito hasn't posted yet?

Well since we have time please go back and find the questions you were asked and answer them

Kthx

Sure

PenPen, now that you've voted someone, what are you going to do?

investigate and stuff

Pen, you were asked why you unvoted me also why are you voting barry
without a reason?

I unvoted you because you where no longer under suspicion at that time.

Barry was a random vote.

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I see rob now as being as PRO Town as Papa Zito and everyone knows papa zito is pro town.

So penpen, what made you think Zito was protown when you said this yesterday? What made you think Zito knew GreyICE was town, and why did you follow him onto GreyICE if that was the case?

Posts Like These:

OH HAI PENPEN

Top 3 scum plz

Holy wtf.

I want to make sure this is captured on film.

Erratus Apathos (6): RobCapone, Ashblade, GreyICE, Bill McQuill, Barry Allen, wikkiden
RobCapone (1): Erratus Apathos
Hiraki (1): subgenius
GreyICE (1): Hiraki

Not voting: mockingjaye, Papa Zito, Snake Eyes, Hayker

So Erratus is town yay let's move on.

Who sucks the most on that wagon?

Your admission that you didn't vote to start Day 1 was silly at best, given that the game consensus was that it was likelier that scum players would want to delay the start. I'm thinking there's a decent enough chance that you're simply ballsy, and thought you'd be able to deflect the resulting attention into pressure on somebody else.

ITP Bill argues against an Erratus vote and votes him anyway. lulz

VOTE: Bill McQuill

Whatever, I don't know how to explain it but subgenius is town.

I find this a very interesting statement.

Hay Erratus, do you find this an interesting statement?

Actually, better question: Subgenius, do you think the same thing about bvoigt?

No worries GreyICE, all will become clear.

And now for a comparitive study.

Erratus Apathos (6):

RobCapone

,

Ashblade

,

GreyICE

,

Bill McQuill

, Barry Allen, wikkiden
subgenius (L-2):

GreyICE

,

Ashblade

,

RobCapone

, Barry Allen,

Bill McQuill

RobCapone, Ashblade, GreyICE, Bill McQuill

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFff too many sheep BUT it's another strike against ol' Bill.

Accusations was the wrong word, you made statements without suporting

1. EA is town
2. If mocking is scum, I must be turbolynched
3. You thinking subs is scum yet you avoid voting him
4. You declare mocking scum

Why are you so worried about this. (#3 no longer applies btw)

Here is what caused me to vote for GREYICe:

ICe ahs already said he wont say anthing els.e

so

GUSY it's page 28 which is longer than some other games here let's hamemr this ok? ok

What is your opinion of Ice mis-repping himself and posting skewed information to prove his point

Vote:Erratus Apathos

It ain't march yet chill.

And what are the questions people have for me?

aer you kididing with this

EA is town

bad vote is bad

Peer Pressure is a Bitch

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I still think Papa Zito is scum.
So my vote stays right where it's at.

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I still think Papa Zito is scum.
So my vote stays right where it's at.

Who else do you think is scum, and why? Work must be shown for full credit to be given.

Well alright how about bvoigt, he seems to be doing the whole active lurking thing too. And I think his case on me and Barry are complete bullshit.

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Well alright how about bvoigt, he seems to be doing the whole active lurking thing too. And I think his case on me and Barry are complete bullshit.

Hold on there, penpen - don't try to buddy up to me here. I still think you are either VI or scum.

btw Sub - THIS is pandering on penpen's part...trying to bring me into his argument like I'm going to back him up now...

Whatever. Sounds like to me your trying to hide that your scum by trying to keep the focus on me.

Unvote Vote:Barry Allen

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idk UnVotE

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Here is what I'm thinking now:

1. subgenius Town
3. bvoigt ?Unkown?
4. Papa Zito ?Unkown?
5. Erratus Apathos ?Unkown?
6. RobCapone Town
9. Bill McQuill ?Unkown?
10. Barry Allen ?Unkown?
11. Hiraki ?Unkown?
13. mozamis ?Unkown?

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@penpen: You're supposed to be voting Bill.

If I vote bill yall will just accuse me of sheeping or bw.
Not to mention I will then yet again be called "Dangerous" by none other than the great Subgenius.

We can't have that.

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Why do you care what others think of you if you are town,

Well as townie I really don't want to see the town make another mistake thats all.

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And I think his case on me and Barry are complete bullshit.

Still waiting for an explanation of this.

Oh Come On. If I breathe air its a scumtell to you.

For Barry Allen and or anyone else refer to post#805