Mini 1195: The Beehive Mystery (GAME OVER)

[SleepyKrew]

I want a votecount before I do anything stupid.

[SleepyKrew]

Acro: CS, CA
Yank: Greymarble, ICE, ItP
Beck: subgenius
ItP: Yank
Not Voting: Acro, Beck, rblinker, Tommy, SK
Unofficial votecount down. Contribution forthcoming forthwith.

[SleepyKrew]

Oh, and Kool.

[SleepyKrew]

Okay, so I'm using a new method of scumhunting and I also prefer wallofposts as opposed to wall. Sorry if this unnerves you. Starting.

[SleepyKrew]

This account is a hydra.

vote beck

His joke sounds nervous. This is a serious vote.

+2
Making something out of nothing.
ItP: 2

[SleepyKrew]

Posts 14 and 15. Beck says:
"You can vote for me."
"Why are you voting for me? You're better than this."
Beck is now an acceptable lynch.
ItP: 2
ALs: Beck

[SleepyKrew]

unvote

vote yank

NOW this vote is serious

It may be the Sam Adams talking, but what Beck said was really weird and anti-town. At the same time, the lynch almost seems too obvious, a jester perhaps?

I've never seen a scummier post on page 1

- you call him

really

weird and anti-town
- you qualify it with an "at the same time", which is scummy in general, especially during rvs
- your "at the same time" makes no sense and sounds nervous as shit
- you are more interested in sounding evenhanded than in generating information.

no way this is coming from town

Another +2
ItP: 4
ALs: Beck

[SleepyKrew]

I disagree about the statement that town wouldn't joke about that cause they don't want to cast suspicion on themselves.

There is plenty of reasons to make a comment like that as town, if you can't think of any fair enough, but i sure can.

Please share.

[SleepyKrew]

Sleepykrew? eh..
Acronach was a fun scumpartner to have until He replaced out of the game we were in. I look forward to this

you're forgetting the game you screwed up and then replaced out of.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17550
your fail reaction test coupled with the face that GreyIce was your replacement messed up my reads and almost screwed the town over.

anyway, moving on. holding my vote since it looks like we're already out of RVS.

Top two scumspects?

[SleepyKrew]

Little interest in discussing "conclusions", except that our vote is staying on Yank and we aren't in to your unwarranted attempt to defend someone in rvs.

Why aren't you discussing conclusions? And you said the vote was serious, so it wasn't defending in RVS.
ItP is now an acceptable lynch.

[SleepyKrew]

Yank isn't looking too hot right now. Between his equivocal opinion on Beck and now his lame defense against Ivan, which consists of little more than an accusation of twisting words, I'm not seeing much from him. It's only the second page, but I've got a bad feeling about Yank.

+2
subgenius: 2
ALs: ItP, beck

[SleepyKrew]

You're voting for me because you guys are able to twist words? That's convenient.

This seems fairly melodramatic . . . slightly scummy, but nothing that makes me want to send him to the gallows.

+2

Vote: Acronach

Why hold your vote because we're out of the RVS? That would seem like more of a reason to vote to me, since there is at least something substantial (albeit not much) to discuss.

And if he hadn't posted this, where would your vote be?
+?
CA: 2+?
subgenius: 2
ALs: ItP, beck

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE: Ivan the Pleasant

I’m not sure about the suspicion on Yank yet. I don’t see much suspicion at the moment on yank, he wasnt the only one to have suspicion on Beck. He had suspicion, his 'at the same time' quote, seemed to me more as a precaution as I to felt it was a bit early to be jumping onto beck as we had to be careful so I didn’t see much wrong about it.

Also Ivan, you said 'we aren't in to your unwarranted attempt to defend someone in rvs' to yank. I think his defence on Beck was valid, as although it was early and in rvs there was some serious votes against Beck so I’m not certain on Yank suspicions.

Why the unvote?

[SleepyKrew]

As I said, it was weird and anti-town, and it feels to me he was/is trying to get lynched. I won't vote on that alone, but it's something to watch.

You still don't get the joke?

[SleepyKrew]

We didn't say we were keeping them to ourselves, we stated them already. You made a comment that sounded nervous and scummy and so we voted you for it. It doesn't require further discussion on our part.

Hohoho yes it does.

[SleepyKrew]

It may be the Sam Adams talking, but what Beck said was really weird and anti-town. At the same time, the lynch almost seems too obvious, a jester perhaps?

TRANSLATION:
'BECK IS WEIRD AND ANTITOWN BUT I KNOW HE'S NOT SCUM. MUST BE A THIRD PARTY???'

GWAPPA GWAPPA!
VOTE: YankCane151
DIEIEIEIE HEHEHAHAHAHAHA

Dear lord. He didn't get a joke.
+?

[SleepyKrew]

@ICE
UTC+4, I think.
I find myself agreeing with you a lot. Beck case is shit, Yank case is shit.
However, I disagree with these subtle scumtells. Refusing to discuss=pushing for a QL in my book.
+2

[SleepyKrew]

Sigh. Well, not everyone on my bandwagon is opportunistic scum. I at least hoped the townies would be rational, but no one is seeing the writing on the wall. Can we at least get some discussion in so you guys don't go into day 2 still not wanting to lynch IVP or sub?

ICE is town? How do you know?

[SleepyKrew]

@sub
You thinking Yank was scum until post 49. Why the sudden change?
+?

[SleepyKrew]

One more thing, If I'm supposedly helping out Beck/taking pressure off of him by claiming he's 3rd party, why aren't you pressuring him? Everyone's quick on me but they've pushed Beck aside(those on my wagon, that is.)

AtE
+5

[SleepyKrew]

@CS
RVS is OVER. Acro did the right thing not slapping on a vote.
+5

[SleepyKrew]

I think next time I'll just use a wall with spoiler tags...
Anyway.
VOTE: Ivan

[SleepyKrew]

Why me and not him? = AtE
I'm using a modified version. Everyone starts at 0. Just experimenting with it for now, not sure if I want to keep using it or not.
IIoA? Also, I'm your Father?

[SleepyKrew]

You accused him of not RVSing. Why? Like I said, RVS is OVER. And he doesn't want to use his vote now, don't make him. It was only page 2.

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: beck
If you're town there was no logical motivation behind that post. If scum, then you probably should have just kept quiet or gone for miller :/
either way, this is a good wagon

UNVOTE:
yeah, I can't see scum wanting to draw attention to themselves actually. Scum are more likely to exploited your joke in all honesty (if you are town that is)

Care to explain this?

Spoon, RVS ended on page 1. And the town motivation is he didn't have any clue who scum were. Agree t disagree?

Spoiler: Breaking News

I hate my new method. Fuck it.

[SleepyKrew]

You would vote randomly when RVS is over?

[SleepyKrew]

Spoon, RVS had ended, you're the only one not admitting it. Was not voting good play? No. Does it deserve a vote? No.
PEDIT: I agree.

[SleepyKrew]

Holy shit. Lying why you voted and bad logic.
FoS Confid

[SleepyKrew]

It's RVS

and there is nothing more useless than an unused vote. You don't need a solid scumread yet. In fact, not voting is anti-town.
VOTE: Acro

[SleepyKrew]

It was page 2 ; RVS wasn't over then

[SleepyKrew]

I'm talking about the that was then. You scum, Spoon?

[SleepyKrew]

I want to give him a chance. If he gives a shitty response, then make room for me on the badnwagon.

[SleepyKrew]

Because I disagree that it's suspicious.
PEDIT: Agreed.

[SleepyKrew]

Bad play =!(or is it !=?) suspicious
Spoon,do you realize that you are the only one using that logic?

[SleepyKrew]

Acro is a VI. Of course he'll do anti-town things.
But I want to see him post before this convo continues.

[SleepyKrew]

The game I played with him. He also gets OMGUSy under pressure. How is this concealing info? Anyone can check it.

[SleepyKrew]

No, he was town.
Interesting, it was the There Will Be Brawl game. He wasn't as blatant a VI as nintendoaddict, but he got pretty bad later on.
Again, if his answer is not satisfactory, I'll gladly hop on the wagon.

[SleepyKrew]

I'm trying to talk to my other head right now, but He's not here at present

What does this have to do with anything?

[SleepyKrew]

That doesn't answer the question.

[SleepyKrew]

I read it more as "I'm being pressured where's CC to save my ass?"

[SleepyKrew]

Then what is this secret you will only post after Acro posts?

[SleepyKrew]

I've concealed nothing

Enough is enough.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Spoon
If by late, you mean why wait until page 3? I posted on my first opportunity.

[SleepyKrew]

Who are you?

[SleepyKrew]

OMGUS
I had lack of voting?

[SleepyKrew]

In case you didn't notice, I was voting Ivan until you put on your scummy mc flaily pants. Or is that just the avi?

[SleepyKrew]

@Spoon
Why are you ignoring Tommy?

@Tommy
Flails and contradictions.

@ICE
That's why I'm dropping that style. I used it for a whole 5 minutes
Also, I have prior-game experience with Acro, as I've said before. He's terrible under pressure.

[SleepyKrew]

No, actually, you didn't. Now answer the part directed at you.

[SleepyKrew]

But he's not voting.

[SleepyKrew]

Well that's another contradiction right thar.
And the whole "I've got nothing to hide" "No, I'm hiding y supersecret towntell!"

[SleepyKrew]

Are you not seeing it or is it to make sure I'm consistent?

[SleepyKrew]

"I'm not concealing anything." "I'm hiding my secret towntell."
"Not voting = scum." "Tommy's not voting. That's okay."
AD HOM AD HOM AD HOM

[SleepyKrew]

My reasoning for thinking Acro is a VI:
1. I bussed and faked an inno on him, and became conftown to him.
2. After I flipped scum, he insisted I was a Death Miller.
3. OMGUSy, especially under pressure.
However, he seems far better this game, so it might have been a one-game thing.

Spoon is ignoring my main points.

[SleepyKrew]

I said the case is bad, but I'd join the wagon if Acro's response is scummy. It wasn't, I didn't. Nice misrep.

[SleepyKrew]

It is protown to not vote when you have no idea what to do. It's VI-ish having no idea what to do.

[SleepyKrew]

1. Something not scummy.
2. The pressure.
3. Because I've seen scum voted for the wrong reasons, and then lynched because of bad reactions.
Now answer mine.

[SleepyKrew]

*sigh*
Not voting when he had no idea what to do. Protown.
Not pressuring or questioning. Anti-town.
Having no idea what to do. VI.

[SleepyKrew]

No. Acro is in no way clear.

[SleepyKrew]

@sub
Thoughts on Ivan?

[SleepyKrew]

Yank, are you a newb?

[SleepyKrew]

But he's defending me. By your logic, isn't he my scumbuddy?

[SleepyKrew]

@blinker
The reason I said I'd vote for a scummy response is because I've seen scum pressured for completely the wrong thing, but they respond scummily under the pressure and that leads to their lynch.

[SleepyKrew]

Everyone is treating GreyMarble's post like the word of God.
It looks like a misrep to me.
But I need to look for something. If I don't find it, I'll vote Yank.

[SleepyKrew]

You sure he never responded to it? I'll believe you.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yank
Quite honestly, we'll learn a lot from this flip either way.

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: sub

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: sub

lol, What?

That's all I have time for at the moment, I'll catch up further in a bit.

Wrong person <.<
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Spoon

[SleepyKrew]

that's the worst backpeddaling I've ever seen

"this lynch isn't going to work. Let's go spoon"

Confirm vote: SK

I was voting you before Yank. I don't want to lynch Yank now. Back to you.

[SleepyKrew]

I switched to Yank because I thought he didn't mention GreyMarble. But he did, so back to Spoon.
Scum Lynch > Info Lynch

[SleepyKrew]

Because he flails, contradicts, and ad homs.

[SleepyKrew]

I'm going to do a full reread.

[SleepyKrew]

Request Replacement

[SleepyKrew]

Because I'm in too many games, can't keep my thoughts straight, and am playing like shit. Sorry.

[SleepyKrew]

Sorry for replacing out, and my replacement replacing out, and my replacement's replacement...
gj Scott.

[SleepyKrew]

Greylist? Is that like an IGMEOY pre-blacklist?

[SleepyKrew]

Blacklisting Llamamarble for ongoing game discussion.