Mini 1195: The Beehive Mystery (GAME OVER)

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It may be the Sam Adams talking, but what Beck said was really weird and anti-town. At the same time, the lynch almost seems too obvious, a jester perhaps?

TRANSLATION:
'BECK IS WEIRD AND ANTITOWN BUT I KNOW HE'S NOT SCUM. MUST BE A THIRD PARTY???'

GWAPPA GWAPPA!
VOTE: YankCane151
DIEIEIEIE HEHEHAHAHAHAHA

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We got prodded (stung, heh). I don't have much time now but I'll read up.

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It may be the Sam Adams talking, but what Beck said was really weird and anti-town. At the same time, the lynch almost seems too obvious, a jester perhaps?

I mentioned this before, but scum have a reflex of assuming third party when they see something anti-town-looking because they know the player isn't their buddy. This is fairly clear cut as tells go and we just lynched Pinescum for it D1 in 1156.
Then he goes and 'you don't have a good reason to vote me. You are twisting my words. You haven't made a proper case vs me'
He's frustrated over people calling him scum for things he's done he didn't think should be seen as scummy.
No scumhunting except 'my wagon has scums derpa'
Lynching him gives me warm fuzzy this guy will flip scum thoughts.

Beck is town.

Acronach is scum (25). Hm maybe not.

Tommy is scum.

Confidanon is town but not as much as Beck. 91 is YESYES. Scum feel obligated to give reasons for everything they do.

Ice feels town.

SleepyKrew SPAMMODE is probably town but kind of hard to follow. Ah okay he stops. Yeah he's probably town.

Okay got through page 5. More later.

Note:
Hydras are allowed in normals because we're supposed to act like a single, standard player.
Posting out of hydra messes with the idea that a hydra is simply a single player which two people consult on moves for.

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This game will get catchup time too, fear not.

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Grey hasn't joined the battle yet. I'm here to resume my catch up though.

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I'll PM him after I get done reading.

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Okay, now I at least know what's going on.

Readthrough Impressions:
TOWN-
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Beck
Confidanon

Probtown:
Spoon
Acronach

???
Ivan
Sub
Sleepy
Blinker

Scummy:
Kool calls me a third party.

Scum:
Ice
Tommy
Yank - pending claimcheck.

I need to go and check if it's actually possible for Yank's claim to true. 3masons is extremely powerful and something I've never seen in a mini normal before, so unless there are 4 scum it seems unlikely. I guess 3 masons and nothing else vs 3 scum is a common enough open setup though. Yank, are you sure you don't mean neighbors (difference being Masons are assured that their partners are town whereas neighbors just get to communicate)?

Next is the ISO phase, and then I'll be ready to drive a lynch on someone.

Unicorn Brethren is a ~6 headed hydra. They were a town

Disaster on Wheels

in the Mafia with the Hydras.

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I'm due for some dungeons and dragons and haven't heard from Grey, but I'll at least explain why you people shouldn't be lynching Acronach.
When is deadline by the way?
I don't find it quite as likely scum will kill me instead of the masons this game.
'twill be their undoing. *cackles*

Acronach is town primarily because he cares and is trying to find out who scum are.
But there are also a couple of specific bits.

not completely useless. if im town and SK is maf, why would he defend me? if SK is town and im maf, why would i defend him? using this logic, it's extremely unlikely that we have opposing alignments. not impossible, but unlikely.

Is the town brand of WIFOM I think. Also town are susceptible to being buddied for the reason described here. Or at least I am.

now normally, i would give scumpoints here for assuming we're still in RVS and putting a vote up because of it, but since this particular post is coming from TwistedSpoon, i'm not going to call this scum or town. i'll need more time to analyse his play this game before i make any kind of a read on him.

He passes up an opportunity to hand somebody some scumpoints (towntell assuming Captaintown, which seems right), and then talks about the manner in which he plans to get reads (a favorite towntell of mine).

Also I read through and there are possible masons. UNVOTE:

OK time to go. I'll figure out who's scum later.

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As in Acro's reaction to somebody calling him town made sense to me. This doesn't say anything about the alignment of the person calling him town.

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I <3 Flashwagons. Except when they're on me.
VOTE: Acronach

I don't expect him to flip scum, so bleh.
@Sub: I need to reread all the people in my ??? column.

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Yeah, I figured me getting lynched was the only real alternative to him getting lynched considering the deadline coming up.
Also the wagon does have a lot of people I think are town on it, so I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

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Grey looks bad too though after trying to justify his hammer whilst casting it

So when I'm hammering somebody I think is town no explanation is required? I am confused.

PoE is process of elimination.

Kool probably isn't scum, though the 'GM is third party lolol' still bothers me.

Don't hammer yet. I reserve the right to do so after I check a few things, and respond to some pending questions directed at me.

Is town caring-about-being-heard. Scum would just want the mason to get hammered without them having to get involved.
Then he follows with some 'LETS HAMMER THIS MASON GUY' where he tells the story of Yankscum.
Awfully cheeky if he's scum and sounded like he believed what he was saying.

Ice is scum though.
People he's wanted to lynch (me, Acro, Yank) all town.
His reaction to Yank's masonclaim was "OMG ABANDON SHIP" with minimal trepidation despite weirdness of triplemasons 'cause he knew Yank was telling the truth.

TOMMY HASN'T VOTED A SINGLE PERSON THIS GAME. WTF.
He's just been commenting and lurkerpatrolling. And there's I'mma attack Sleepy by association with Acro but push for Acro to be the one who gets lynched, which scum always do with buddies. So maybe Jilynne + Tommy then.
VOTE: Tommy

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Relevant:

Day One: Vote Count Four

Ivan the Pleasant (2) –YankCane151, Acronach
Acronach (1) – ConfidAnon
YankCane151 (4)- Greymarble, ICEninja, Ivan the Pleasant, Beck
Captain Spoon (2)- SleepyKrew, Da Koolzzy
SleepyKrew (2) - Captain Spoon, Subgenius

Not voting: (2) – rblinker123, Tommy

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch.

The deadline is Friday July 8, 4 PM EST.

Also Relevant:

Thats a lynch. Lynch scene coming up.

Day One: Vote Count Seven (The final count)

Ivan the Pleasant (1) – Acronach

Acronach (7) – ConfidAnon, ICEninja, Captain Spoon, Beck, Subgenius, rblinker123, Greymarble,

Captain Spoon (1)- SleepyKrew
Greymarble (2)- YankCane151, Ivan the Pleasant,

Not voting: (2) – Tommy, Da Koolzzy

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch.

I have townreads on CA, Beck. Rblinker and Spoon I also have town on. Which makes me feel more happy about Icescum and Sub needs a hard look.
Tommy and Ice make a lot of scumpairsense after Ice's "lolol you're so funny calling me and Tommy scum and acro town."
Sub, Ivan, or Sleepy are all in the running for third scumbuddy. Those 3 Tommy and Ice contain AT LEAST 2 scum.
I'm not wrong about more than 1 of Koolzy, CA, Blinker, Beck & Spoon towns.

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Lynching someone I KNOW is town is worse than lynching someone I THINK is town.
My wagon was the only one other than Acro's with a reasonable chance of lynching. (2 already on me and others expressing interest)
In 1v1, you vote the other guy. End of story.
See Dilemma mafia for another game where I lynched somebody I was convinced was town because they weren't me.

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Just look at the end of D1.
I say "we shouldn't lynch Acro" and the next 4 posts are "maybe we wagon marble instead" and then I'm like WELL FUCK THAT and hammer.
I did not have enough townleaderpoints to make a new wagon happen on somebody I actually wanted to lynch.

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1/3 of Grey's posts look like he's active lurking...and he's only posted 15x.

10 useful posts, Grey. Way to go.

Also, feel free to make as many excuses as you want, but I still don't see an appropriate reason for you to vote someone you don't think is scum. When you play as town, you're not going for self-preservation.

Pot kettle Wheee! As for my lack of content that was life-related and true across all my games.
So who do you think is scum miss J?

Masons with a lover-member is an interesting concept. It would count as the game's stretchy role, but yeah that more or less makes sense of you buying triplemasons.