Alright I'm gonna do some typing as I catch up. I normally do this in a word doc then from my notes make a post, but since time is at a premium right now, I'll just go directly to here.
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I don't like Ivan's attack on sub. His entire reason for voting sub is that "your premise is fine, but one of the 2 conclusions you arrived at is false", and gives mediocre reasons why it is false. You didn't really prove why sub's possible conclusion that they are both scum is false, as that is mostly the impression I got from him. I find myself nodding along with sub's 224, as it echos a lot of my thoughts.
I liked Ivan's attack on Yank initially, but it seemed for weak reasons. It was also quite vocal, and seems to have died off. Ivan, what is your current opinion of Yank?
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Acronach wrote:
it's not meant to be an example of us defending eachother, its meant to show you why sleepy is calling me a VI. obviously i'm not, but i'm showing you why he would have that impression.
Something about this is really bugging me. He really does seem to be attempting to show people WHY Sleepy views Acro as a VI, which just doesn't sit well with me. Sleepy should be the one trying to provide evidence why he thinks Acro is a VI, not the other way around.
Acronach wrote:
i know defending him makes us look like scumbuddies. although he may be scum, i'm not. sleepy is in no way clear, i am in no way clear. i would be happy to take one for the town and be the first lynch, but i hope it doesn't come to that.
Holy cow there is no reason for town to ever say anything like this in the current situation, period. The only reason anyone would ever want to say this is an attempt to gain town credibility unnecessarily. Simply awful.
Subgenius continues to make goodposting. Definitely my most solid town read at the moment.
Definitely don't like Acronach's 233. He counters a "this is WIFOM" with something very rude, then continues his "you must be a complete idiot" trend.
Koolz didn't really take a single stance in his list, really. I didn't see any "this guy looks suspicious" or "vote: ____". He implies
mild
suspicion on Yank, and possibly on Ivan, but nothing concrete. Definitely not liking this so far.
Beck wrote:
I stand by my statement that Yank is the one deserving of pressure, and the Acro wagon seems like a counter wagon to distract from Yank.
Yank has done nothing useful
Yank is too concerned with how people think of him
Yank has fos'd 2 people (iirc) that have voted or FOS'd him first
plus his comment about me being a jester, instead of being scum is pretty damning as grey pointed out
I definitely agree with this. Yank had some very mild pressure put on him, and reacted significantly. It really deserved more pressure, but that never happened.
Acronach wrote:
kk, well any arguments you make about the VI thing are irrevelant. deal with it.
No. They aren't. And he stated why. Deal with it.
Acronach wrote:
if im town and SK is maf, why would he defend me? if SK is town and im maf, why would i defend him? using this logic, it's extremely unlikely that we have opposing alignments. not impossable, but unlikely.
Scum defends town so that town thinks scum is town. It is called buddying.
rblinker wrote:
However, then only reason I’m not voting yet is like beck pointed out, its weird there defending each other, if they were to be scum, its throwing themselves out there too much so I’m not sure for a vote just yet.
So you instead prefer to talk about what is going on instead of really calling anyone out for anything, and refusing to put a vote down. How, exactly, do you intend to find scum? Are you waiting for someone else to do it? If you're town, how do you know that someone else is town?
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Beck's 252 is essentially why I'm still voting for Yank, as in addition the points I made early in the game still apply.
Tommy's 256 makes a good point. Acronach is definitely high on my suspects list.
Wow Sleepy, definitely not impressed by your play at all. I'm having a harder and harder time finding legitimate scum hunting coming from you.
Not much on page 12 so far.
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(Must read if you skipped everything else)
My 3 strongest scum reads right now are Yank, Sleepy, and Acro in no particular order. I currently feel like the most can be achieved with my vote where it currently is, on Yank. I'm holding reservations for Spoon, Ivan, and Koolz, but these players are not preferred lynches, whereas the others are. I'm not impressed by rblinker's play so far, or how much Greymarble is lurking, considering it is a hydra account. They are nullish reads though. I'm not in any way open to a day 1 lynch of the rest of the players.