Mini 1207 - LIPD Mafia: Game Over!

[Vifam]

You're welcome.


You're so, so welcome.

[Vifam]

I want a cliffnote version of this game.

[Vifam]

I want a cliffnote version of this game.

Why did I say this? No one ever gives one to me. I guess it's a habit.

VOTE: AlMasterGM

Man Hindu is so good at this game. what a pro tell.

vote: slaxx

AG opens up with blatant sarcasm (Okay I could be wrong about this but it looked pretty sarcastic from my end), along with his vote that makes me think that he knows Slaxx isn't scum.


I only read the first page, that's all I got. But there doesn't seem to be any pressure on AG, so I'm just gonna throw that out there. More later when I actually get to reading this thread.

[Vifam]

^ on the top ten worst votes ever list.

~LLD

I'm just trying to get the ball rolling, skimming through SaM's ISO, he isn't being very scummy, so that wagon has to be out of place.


The Diamond wagon needs to be looked into, also, but I have yet to look through Diamond's ISO.

[Vifam]

Anybody not voting SAM needs to read the first two pages and then read this quote:

He's the central figure of the starting wagon

and I'm trying to end the RVS?

which will make it extremely clear SAM is making stuff up and is scum.

p.s. this means you hindu because your sam town read is wtf

Looking at the joindate and the fact that this is the first game he is participating in, how does that indicate scum vs noob town?


I actually feel that my vote isn't out of place here.

You're doing it by ISO instead of actually reading the thread in order?

Not really, you misunderstood it, I'm reading the thread in order, and looking at the ISO's of the two largest wagons. I.E Diamond and SaM.

[Vifam]

Okay, after going through most of the thread, I'm pretty sure AG is scum.


But right now, Diamond is also scum.


UNVOTE:

UNVOTE: Diamond


L-1

[Vifam]

This is pretty obvious distancing.

Vifam has apparently "only read the first page" - what's the point in making a vote there before you've read the whole thread?

Like, I said before, there was no pressure on AG and I wanted to get the ball rolling in someone elses direction. The focus on SaM and Diamond is kind of unbelievable.

This is a pretty awful vote.

Diamond is only in my scum-list through PoE, and looking through his ISO I don't see anything scummy enough to warrant "hurr durr I knew AGM was scum from pg1 but I'll put Diamond to L-1 because he's scum <no reasons provided> P.S. btw, I actually haven't read the whole game yet".

One of my other scumreads are at L-1, why would I stay on AG when I think scum is closer to being lynched?

[Vifam]

Vifam. Were you the tracker in the game Mitch and I played as mafia together in on SH?

Yes.


I failed hard that tim

[Vifam]

time*

[Vifam]

^^ suggests that when he first made his AGM vote he:

Wasn't even convinced of the vote himself
Thought it likely he'd be changing his vote very shortly

Neither of which suggest a pro-town mindset, but do suggest a scum mindset looking to distance.

You're forgetting that I was reading the thread for the first time, and the goal of the initial vote was to get some discussion towards another player. You're implying that at the time I was 100% sure AG was scum.

Because you showed reasoning for your AGM scumread but not for your Diamond scumread (so for all I know you have no reasoning)?

Yeah, that's kind of an assumption but w/e:

My scumread on Diamond is that I don't think he is playing indicatively to the meta he has to believe:

Hinduragi, I tend to question a lot regardless of alignment. Look to my completed games as proof. The whole "safe vote" and being "nervous about laying a vote down" stems from my playstyle more than anything else. Again if you examine some of my previous games you'll see that I tend to be cautious and very deliberate with votes.

See, this kind of mixes up with his votes on LLD, since as you can see they were not "careful" at all.

... an even night Serial Killer. Right.

Unvote; Vote: Diamondolium

Even night you say...

OH, AND I'M A EVEN KNIGT VIG

-_- I read this claim as "I'm even a night vig." Hmm well that changes things...

Unvote

I'm gonna go reread.

He just contradicted his own meta because he was obviously nervous.

[Vifam]

Okay, I see what you mean, but...

His self-meta was that he was careful with making a vote. He voted before the claim, not because of it. It was then a (plausible) mistake he made in reading the claim that meant he kept the vote.

Is that your only basis? Are you still happy with your conclusions from it?

What? Are you trying to say he didn't see the claim? I don't get it.

Also, good to have you here, Vifam, a shame you replaced NBT, though

I replaced Pine.


And you're so, so welcome.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Diamonddillium

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

[Vifam]

Unvote; Vote: Hoppster

Okay.

y?

[Vifam]

I'm torn.


In one hand, I can't find myself believing this claim.


On the other, I don't want to a lynch a doc claim D1.


And most of the town seems to be pretty half and half about this too, great.

[Vifam]

VOTE: diamond


It's like w/e, if this is the plan you guys want, I really have no objections.

[Vifam]

I said I was torn, I didn't say that I was against lynching Diamond completely.

At this point, I'm willing to go in any direction you guys see fit.

[Vifam]

I cant speak for him, but to answer your question:

You can, you have the same mindset.

[Vifam]

I said I was torn, I didn't say that I was against lynching Diamond completely.

At this point, I'm willing to go in any direction you guys see fit.

"I'm willing to not be a mislynch"

LOL

That was obviously towards Diamond's claim, not the game overall. Of course I'm not gonna take a backseat the whole game.


There is nothing wrong with my vote, I've already expressed that I was torn about how to go about Diamond's claim. I already expressed that I didn't believe it was real.

The wagon was switching back his way, so why would I go against a claim that I think is fake when town is about to lynch it?


I was going to be okay with any action the town took at that point, weather it be to live Diamond be or to ML him today.

[Vifam]

p.s. vifam looks sorta townish.

Don't fall for it, I know Vifam and I have played with him for a while, here are some tips to read him

1) When he's contributing and scumhunting very actively although lazily, he's Town
2) When he's acting non-chalantly and not contributing or scumhunting, he's Mafia

I know he tends to say Town shit and act like Town from time to time, but just follow these guidelines and you too can read Vifam like a pro

lololololol

[Vifam]

Hey, Riddick, considering your lack of pointless agression and considering your straight-forwardness, I'm guessing I'm talking with Faraday.

Please, trust me on this, Vifam is Mafia, I am so sure, but so sure of this, I will literally eat a hat and eat it if he isn't.

Yes, I will pick a hat, and use my mouth to ingest it if Vifam isn't Mafia.

That's how sure I am

Lolnopex2

[Vifam]

That was obviously towards Diamond's claim, not the game overall.

It doesn't matter if it's short term or long term because it showed the mindset I quoted.

I don't see it, explain a little more.

[Vifam]

Vifam, this is completely unrelated to the game at hand, but can you please join MSN? Need to talk to you

I can't, get on Steam.

[Vifam]

That was obviously towards Diamond's claim, not the game overall.

It doesn't matter if it's short term or long term because it showed the mindset I quoted.

I don't see it, explain a little more.

You said "it's only for the claim" which doesn't matter because you're flexible to go either way depending on what everyone else wants to do. You want to APPEASE everyone else, NOT determine if it was an ACTUAL fakeclaim or not even though you said you DIDNT think it was real.

Except I'm not trying to "appease" anyone, I'm going with what is seen as the optimal play.

[Vifam]

No you aren't

We had two ways of going about this:

1. Letting Diamond be


2.Lynching Diamond


The majority of people of the time saw option two was the most favorable play. So yes, I was.

[Vifam]

Read up, but not much time to type. Super abbreviated notes -

Cop+Doc was cool like 10 years ago. That said, there is something about Cop+Doc that is appealing to people running their first game. I did it in mine. So that's fairly null, but the doctor will have to be taken care eventually so we might as well let it go. There is also the possibility Mastin2 is lying about being a miller, but I think this unlikely (even though his reads are mostly crappy).

Otherwise,

vote: unvote, vote Vifam

Jesus.

In fact, Diamond Scum=AGM scum. Easy peasy.

In fact, Diamond Scum=AGM scum. Easy peasy.

In fact, Diamond Scum=AGM scum. Easy peasy.

In fact, Diamond Scum=AGM scum. Easy peasy.

[Vifam]

Second option, guaranteed

You really need to work on that meta on me.

[Vifam]

Second option, guaranteed

You really need to work on that meta on me.

Heh, I am just playing a character now, I'm not so sure about you anymore. But I still rather lynch you instead of AllmasterGM, Diamond or Gorilla.

I'm still fine with a Science Lynch, btw

Fuck no man.

Lynchpool is Diamond and AG.

[Vifam]

Yeah, IIRC from my first read of this thread 0-8 were not scummy.

[Vifam]

That's not a defense.


I'd still want to lynch Diamond or AGM over you, though.

[Vifam]

I'm bored. Case on AGMscum incoming:
------

Anybody not voting SAM needs to read the first two pages and then read this quote:

He's the central figure of the starting wagon

and I'm trying to end the RVS?

which will make it extremely clear SAM is making stuff up and is scum.

p.s. this means you hindu because your sam town read is wtf

As I said before, this wasn't a direct scumtell at all, at the time AGM should have realized the SaM was a new player and what he said doesn't indicate a scumtell. This was a noobtown tell at the time if anything.
------

What am I at, L2?

@Alm - how am I making stuff up? How is anything I said complicated? Why you tunneling bro? Give me a legit case.

No. I have already stated why your posts are scummy. Other people are voting for you, so they clearly agree. We don't need to waste time explaining ourselves to you. If you want to live, you can go back and spend your own time figuring out what you did wrong and what you want to say in response.

Using the majority as a way to cop out of confrontation. This was actually some pretty serious deflection.

"Everyone else is voting you, look at what they post and find out why", basically.

---------

Read up, but not much time to type. Super abbreviated notes -

Cop+Doc was cool like 10 years ago. That said, there is something about Cop+Doc that is appealing to people running their first game. I did it in mine. So that's fairly null, but the doctor will have to be taken care eventually so we might as well let it go. There is also the possibility Mastin2 is lying about being a miller, but I think this unlikely (even though his reads are mostly crappy).

Otherwise,

vote: unvote, vote Vifam

-Makes a passive defense on Diamond being town
-Drops SaM as scum when he was willing to quicklynch him earlier:

quick lets lynch him before hindu gets back teeehehehehee

------

None of his votes have a whiff of town motivation, fuck that shit.

[Vifam]

I'm not willing to give him anymore time.


Someone hammer him.

[Vifam]

STOP

HAMMER TIME

Vote Diamond

I don't think that's a hammer just yet.

But if it is, what did you think about my case on AGM? We have some downtime going on.

[Vifam]

I've got a good feeling about this~~~~~~~~~~~~





Eye of the tiger.

[Vifam]

Also, how are you Slaxx?

How is SH going?

[Vifam]

Someone

handle

this.

[Vifam]

Your reads are twisted, every person you push for scum is the wrong person.

I haven't posted my case on either you or Gorilla. What I did post was a response to posts 380-383.

Mastin is one of my top townreads, so I doubt Diamond really has anything substantial to bring to the table in the first place. Waiting for his "case" is not something I feel like doing.

[Vifam]

Unvote, Vote: Diamondilium

That was a hammer.

[Vifam]

Whoa.

[Vifam]

@LLD - lpqugkacghcqudarbm

Please.

I fucking love spykids.

But what is this, honestly?

[Vifam]

But what is this, honestly?

Could be anything.

Maybe I'm secretly telling LLD all my reads so I keep looking bad and don't get NK'd and catch all the scum in the meantime.

Or maybe I'm privately expressing my love for LLD and asking her out on a date.

Or maybe it's gibberish and I'm just trolling FOR THE LULZ.

BUT IF YOU VIG ME TONIGHT...

...YOU'LL NEVER KNOW.

CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT?

I don't know, I hate being out of the loop.

[Vifam]

The worst part is, they know something

I

don't

know.

Fuck that shit.

[Vifam]

Well, I should probably just claim. I'm the cop. I investigated Wicked last night, he is town.

Nah, fuck you.


You investigated the only guy that was still on the SaM wagon with you?

Doubt it.


VOTE: Charter

[Vifam]

I think you're at L-2.

[Vifam]

I'd gladly wagon any of these people: Wicked/Almaster/LLD

I can see my current Wicked line isn't going anywhere so I'll

unvote

Vote: LLD

Also: nbt, pine, gorilla - sup?

Here's what really happened.

Science voted Wicked at the top of the page.
Wicked shot down his case.
Science ignored it.
A LLD wagon sprung up.
Sciencescum flails.
Science abandoned ship and voted LLD.

He says Wickid makes a compelling case proving Science as scum, what would motivate him to investigate Wicked?

[Vifam]

Eh.

UNVOTE:

I see your point, I guess.

[Vifam]

Why aren't we voting AGM lolcode "imthecopdonvigme"

vote: AGM

WHOA

WHOA

WHAT?

[Vifam]

WHOA HOLY SHIT.

[Vifam]

Good thing I unvoted.

[Vifam]

I see now, so Almaster GMs code was just a desperate PR move.

[Vifam]

Okay.


I'm sure Charter is scum and the idea of quicklynching scum right after twilight makes me moist.

[Vifam]

You know, you're actually a GREAT CANDIDATE for the [INSERT NAME OF LAZY OR STUPID SCUM HERE] slot, seeing as you've gone ahead and claimed total ignorance of the code I posted.

Yeah, I should have paid attention to that. But I have no idea what website SaM got that from.

I'm feeling lucky.


VOTE: Charter

[Vifam]

http://[POSSIBLEtinyurlSPAM].com/4x3dots

Playfair is easy enough to crack WITHOUT the code ... you HAD. THE. CODE.

You lost me.

[Vifam]

Nevermind. Just sit down in the corner. You are probscum.

No, you're wrong. Town or scum I would have no fucking idea how to crack that code.

[Vifam]

Fair enough, I guess.


I'd like a hammer though.

[Vifam]

I don't see what made you come to the conclusion that I'd be up for a vig shot, you seriously need to go over that.

[Vifam]

I'm okay with this, frankly.

[Vifam]

VT.

[Vifam]

VOTE: Wickid

[Vifam]

I have to be honest, I wasn't expecting a wickid/charter scumteam.

Why would they both just decide to push away a chance to bus like that?

[Vifam]

No.


We have to quicklynch.

Scum.

Just like D2.

[Vifam]

i could totally comedy hammer right now

on the chance he's not scum, though, do you want me to jail you again, vifam? or should i go for another target?

If that were to come, you can jail me, w/e.


But it doesn't matter, we've already won this.

[Vifam]

My reads were actually way off this game.


woooooooooooo.

[Vifam]

Huuuh, I thought both Wicked and Chester were town, and I thought Science and Magic was confirmed Scum until he hammered on his partner.
I fucking suck

lololol, I had a scumread on AGM, though.

[Vifam]

This actually just got really hard.

[Vifam]

Slaxx is definitely Town.

SGR is definitely town.


SaM or Hindu. One of them are scum.

[Vifam]

And SaM---Charter--Diamond makes no sense.


Why would charter STAY on one his scummbuddies D1? But not lynch the other for town cred? That's why Wickid flipped town. Screw you guys and your aftergame talk, you made me think we won this.


Hindu did a great job though.


UNVOTE:
VOTE: Hindu

[Vifam]

How the fuck is SGR deftown?

Just ISO him man, his reads have been too off to be scum.


I'm srs.

[Vifam]

Then Hoppster has to GET ON MY LEVEL. Since Charter-SaM-Diamond is still out of this world, especially since Diamond was just a goon.


Hindu has to be the lynch today, man.

[Vifam]

@slaxx

can we go over again who's confirmed and why.

Hoppster and Myself were jailed.


AGM claimed cop.



I'm not 100% clear, but w/e,

[Vifam]

Oh okay, I'm down with that.

[Vifam]

It cant be Hind. It just cant.

No way Slaxx is this good.

Its gotta be SGR.

If SGR is scum he's doing a pretty stand up job himself, I just don't see him having a townread on Charter earlier, then turning around and campaigning against lynching Diamond, then wanting to wait for Wickid's claim.


I don't think he would buddy up to his partners like that, man.

[Vifam]

His reads this game have been too bad, man.

[Vifam]

Although, to be fair, I play like that as Town too.

Vifam, why aren't you voting Science? Hindu might be Mafia, but why the heck is everyone ignoring Science?

A SaM scum with Charter and Diamond? That's all kinds of unlikely.


Going by my POE this leaves Hindu.

[Vifam]

Hindu is elusive scum but we can't let him slip by.


No.

We have to win

Today.

[Vifam]

THIS WIN IS MINE AND MINE ALONE

[Vifam]

Actually, you might be right.

[Vifam]

Pretty sure everyone has claimed.

[Vifam]

Hindu isn't at L-1.

[Vifam]

If we are not lynching Hindu, we are lynching AGM for sure.

[Vifam]

If we are to believe there's only one Mafia left, why the fuck would AGM claim Cop? That's beyond retarded.

Yeah, it really doesn't make a lick of sense, why would he claim cop in code then let Charter cc?


I mean I could see how it works but that would be a dick move on his part.

[Vifam]

I really want to win this day, I don't want another mislynch to happen. I just don't.

[Vifam]

SO THIS THREAD JUST DEVOLVED INTO ONE ON ONE FAGGOT.


LETS GO

PICK SIDES.

NOW

[Vifam]

ONE ON ONE SLAXX.

THE GAUNTLET WAS THROWN.


/Fighting.

My POE of elimination is still leading to Hinduscum, the other teams just plain don't make any sense.

[Vifam]

ONE ON ONE SLAXX.

THE GAUNTLET WAS THROWN.


/Fighting.

My POE of elimination is still leading to Hinduscum

, the other teams just plain don't make any sense.

Ugh, you know what I mean.

[Vifam]

Also, Vifam was jailed night 1 and it is strongly implied by Gorilla he was jailed night 3, so I wouldn't even consider him AGM. If he is scum, we blame it all on Gorilla in the end.

Vifam have you claimed?

I've claimed VT.

You guys are overthinking the hell out of this The only lynch that REALLY makes sense here is the Hindu lynch.

If someone can explain to me how a SGR=SaM/Charter/Diamond team makes sense, or tell me why Slaxx is scum after reading D2-D3, I'll re-think this.


VOTE: Hindu

[Vifam]

AGMscum doesn't make any sense in the first place.


"HURR LET ME CLAIM COP IN CODE THEN NOT TELL MY PARTNER NOT TO CLAIM COP AND INDIRECTLY LEAD TO HIS LYNCH."

[Vifam]

AGM is town btw. As is SGR.

Oh so I'm town now?

OKAY

Anyway, here's the plan:

Slaxx lives.

Science and Magic, Hindu, and SGR die.

ANY OBJECTIONS?

Yeah Yeah.

Order?

[Vifam]

He was jailed.

[Vifam]

Way to go Slaxx.

[Vifam]

CAN WE JUST SETUP THE ORDER OF WHICH WE LYNCH SCUM?


I'm not going to watch you guys involve yourself into some crazy circular argument, jesus.

[Vifam]

My order:

1. SGR
2. Vifam
3. Slaxx

Are you

fucking

serious?

[Vifam]

Okay.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: SaM

[Vifam]

I might reconsider if you tell me why the hell I'm in your list.

[Vifam]

idk SGR + whoever agm didnt confirm

SINCE AGM IS OBVIOUSLY TOWN YAKNOW

Dude I am clear, you can go fuck yourself if you think Gorilla would jail anyone else AFTER ASKING ME IF IT WAS OKAY.

Why is Hindu not there?

[Vifam]

Nothing to be angry about after that lynch.


Slaxx lives, the rest of you die.

[Vifam]

Lets get cooking.


VOTE: SGR

[Vifam]

I know you guys are kind of worried because the last few days have been terrible. But Slaxx is 100% town and involving ourselves in some silly argument when mafia is pretty much in a corner is just going to ruin things.

There is no reason for hesitance right now, hesitance is our enemy.

[Vifam]

Yup, Hindu, Gorilla pulled a 360 on us for no reason after asking me "Is it okay for me to jail you?" and I answered "Sure".


Are you scum like I said?


Are you

feeling

the

heat?

[Vifam]

Slaxx is town, we have been over this, there is no denying this.


Hoppster and I were jailed when there was one mafia left.



So that leaves SGR & Yourself.


lolvotehim.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Hindu


That's cool too.

[Vifam]

It doesn't matter Hindu.


You can keep flailing around looking for a way out of this.


But in the end, Gorilla jailed me, he showed COMPLETE AND UTTER EMBARRASSMENT when Riddick was NK'd, do you think he would really go for a gambit like that AGAIN?


The answer is: No.

[Vifam]

I just did a runthrough of roughly most of the games in the completed mini sections, almost all of them had three scum.


I'd be surprised if that wasn't so, but I think that's the case here.

[Vifam]

Actually, all of them had three scum.


I have yet to see one in that section that didn't.

[Vifam]

Yes. 2:11 is balanced. 3:10 with 3 town PRs is too. Plus miller drives it towards scumsided. Experts review the setups. No way 4:9 with 3 town PRs is balanced. Especially with a rolecop flipped and godfather as likely last scum.

Yeah what Slaxx said.


I'm completely new and even I realize that a fourth mafia here is highly unlikely.

[Vifam]

I'm completely new and even I realize that a fourth mafia here is highly unlikely.

Good, so you are fine with us lynching you and then me dying? Let's roll this plan out, then.

On the basis that I am clear: No.

[Vifam]

From your perspective if you're town right now, you'd go 1v1. Because your death would mean I died tomorrow and that's endgame from what you think.

No, that's not gonna happen.

We aren't going into LYLO after lynching a clear and have you sway your way through a three way.

[Vifam]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT, YOU GUYS WERE ABOUT TO WASTE OUR LAST ML ON ME.
CALM THE FUCK DOWN.

NO, SERIOUSLY

CALM THE FUCK DOWN

Everyone unvote, please

Good job.

Please hammer Hindu.

[Vifam]

Alright, I am gonna side with Hindu here.
There's absolutely nothing to lose by voting Vifam now. Either he's Mafia or he's Town and we got the ML.

Vote: Vifam

Hoppster can hammer

Jesus Christ man.


Hindu is scum, 4 scum doesn't make a lick of sense.

We are NOT going into LYLO after lynching a clear and then have Hindu sweettalk his way out of this for another 10 pages. We are lynching him right fucking now.

[Vifam]

Alright, I am gonna side with Hindu here.
There's absolutely nothing to lose by voting Vifam now. Either he's Mafia or he's Town and we got the ML.

Vote: Vifam

Hoppster can hammer

Jesus Christ man.


Hindu is scum, 4 scum doesn't make a lick of sense.

We are NOT going into LYLO after lynching a clear and then have Hindu sweettalk his way out of this for another 10 pages. We are lynching him right fucking now.

Sorry, bro, call me retarded all you want, I'm playing it 100% safe here.
Nothing to lose with this vote. Absolutely nothing to lose

You're going into LYLO after lynching a clear. Hindu's fucking argument that they're 4 scum DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.


That is completely wrong. We are lynching Hindu now and that's gonna be the end of it.

[Vifam]

There is no way gorilla didn't jail vifam. Look at his posts. Hindu is literally manipulating you into lynching a clear.

Hoppster you do not fucking hammer vifam.

Hinduragi is not manipulating me into doing shit. Vifam is not 100% clear, not only because we can't be sure Gorilla Jailkept Vifam, but also because there might be two Mafias, in which case, the kill would go through anyways.

I repeat:

We lose absolutely NOTHING by voting Vifam

TWO MAFIA MAKES NO SENSE.


GORILLA WAS SO FUCKING EMBARRASSED AT THE RIDDICK NK.


SO WHY WOULD HE TAKE

ANOTHER

GAMBIT

AFTER SUCH AN EMBARRASSMENT?

[Vifam]

TWO MAFIA MAKES NO SENSE.

Cool, then huh... What's the problem with killing you again?

How many times do I have to say this?


You are going into LYLO after lynching a clear, and after this fucking escapade you might fall for Hindu's shit AGAIN.

No way I'm leaving this up to you later.

[Vifam]

if vifam gets lynched before I get home I will literally replace out. And probably blacklist every town member. This is dumb as fuck.

Jesus fucking Christ, bro, it hurts.
What's your problem? I've said it before, we lynch Vifam and if he's town, I lynch Hinduragi tomorrow, WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM?

You know what? Fine, lynch me.

But you need to fucking vote Hindu D6, don't be a goddamm idiot.

[Vifam]

Hindu is probably laughing his ass off right now.

Jesus.

[Vifam]

Vote: SGR

Turns out you both are retarded. Change my 1v1 to be with SGR. Slaxx's "ILL REPLACE OUT" and Vifam's "LYNCH ME" shit is enough. Im not playing with Slaxx again if he's using the replace out shit as scum. Fucking RAGE at you both for randomly fuckin voting on JACK SHIT at a possible LYLO, though.

Lynch me if you want. Just make SGR BURNS tomorrow if Vifam/Slaxx really aren't scum and don't win.

If SGR is scum I'll consider suicide.

[Vifam]

as in JUST VIFAM ALONE?

That is fucking impossible seeing as how I was jailed.



Screw you guys if you actually think Gorilla DIDN'T jail me, seriously.

[Vifam]

Everything led up to him jailing me.

Just ISO him and you can see that he obviously jailed me.

So no, me alone doesn't work.


And no, Slaxx isn't my scumbuddy.

[Vifam]

Everything led up to him jailing me.

Just ISO him and you can see that he obviously jailed me.

So no, me alone doesn't work.


And no, Slaxx isn't my scumbuddy.

So you ARE scum? LOL?

You knew exactly what I meant. Plus that'd be contradicting myself in the same post.


Jesus Christ.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

[Vifam]

I can't see Hinduragi being scum, he was too straightforward when voting me and basically giving me the chance to hammer on him right there at that spot.
Unless he's playing mindgames, in which case, he's kind of suceeding

No, he's scum. I'm sure of it, and the last thing I want right now is Hindu/Slaxx/SGR threeway.

[Vifam]

I think SGR is town.

I would really love a fucking Hindu lynch.

[Vifam]

If you're completely dropping the whole "HURR TWO SCUM" thing and that you STILL think that it's possible Gorilla didn't jail me is killing me right now.



Just ISO him EVERYTHING LEADS UP TO HIM JAILING ME.

claim: Town Jailkeeper

targeted Vifam N1, Hoppster N2, so hoppster is pretty much confirmed town

"wait gorilla you stupid fuck why didn't you save riddick n1"

I was considering it, I was thinking it all day 1 actually, it seemed so obvious. Then hinduragi made that comment about using some action on them and i reconsidered like a fool. I regret it but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Meh. I'm not scum and making a claim like this as scum would basically trap me before endgame. Also, this was why I didn't buy diamond's claim d1.

So you honestly think, after Gorilla failed hard by not Jailing LLD/Faraday, he decided to jail me after asking me if it was okay?

i could totally comedy hammer right now

on the chance he's not scum, though, do you want me to jail you again, vifam? or should i go for another target?

If you're town you need to throw that logic right out of the window, I'm fucking serious.

[Vifam]

He was obviously town. <_<

[Vifam]

My head hurts.


Life sucks.

[Vifam]

Whatever.


Up until now no one has provided "proof" as to why I am clear, so I'm guessing scum didn't really think it existed.


That's probably it, I don't know.

[Vifam]

AGM was also scummy as hell.

[Vifam]

hnnnnnnnnnnnng


SGR, please answer Slaxx's questions.

[Vifam]

Whoa I might have to think about killing myself.

Fuck.

[Vifam]

SaM was obv-scum, though, what are you implying?

OH SHIT SON.

WHAT?

[Vifam]

SaM was obv-scum, though, what are you implying?

OH SHIT SON.

WHAT?

Slaxx is telling me I am scum for thinking SaM was scum, as if it wasn't fucking obvious

SaM wasn't scum.


SHIT SON'


WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

[Vifam]

We are NOT lynching SGR after that.

[Vifam]

We are NOT lynching SGR after that.

We are NOT lynching SGR after that.

We are NOT lynching SGR after that.

We are NOT lynching SGR after that.

We are NOT lynching SGR after that.

[Vifam]

Hoppster why would he forget his partner like that?


Unless he is really that dumb.

[Vifam]

what

where does he forget Diamond/charter

unless you're talking about him neglecting to mention them in his ISO which is completely different

He said that SaM was obvious scum when he flipped town.

[Vifam]

But I like lolwagons.

[Vifam]

Jesus Christ Hindu.

Remember the D4 SaM wagon? That was NOT a wagon I expect to see careful town jumping on.

I like how you're acting you didn't subtly FOS SaM D4.

[Vifam]

I don't know if it's a towntell at this point, I realized he lives in Portugal and I think it was getting late for him at the time, if he was scum he could have easily had a brainfart or something.

[Vifam]

You've been switching up towntells all day.

[Vifam]

I don't know if his paranoia is town or he's just trying to fear monger as scum.

[Vifam]

Eh it's just that your recent posting has been all "WHOA WATCH OUT FOR THAT TRAP".

If I called them town and haven't decided to tunnel on them yet, then I think they're town

Then you don't think anyone is town since you've made an attempt to vote just about every single one of us.

[Vifam]

http://i54.tinypic.com/30lhwls.jpg

It's cool, right? Yeah it's cool.


I think the commen denominator is SGRscum right now since I'm unsure of Hindu after these last few posts.

[Vifam]

You actually thought I was scum?

I was literally taking all of your suspicion on me as OMGUS.

I'm

new

at this.

And I fos'd you going by POE that marked SGR as town and I'm not sure of that anymore.

[Vifam]

I thought SGR was just dumb town for pushing my lynch initially, but if he continues I'm gonna have to take action.

[Vifam]

This is all stacking up to a SGR lynch.


I don't see a single objection :X.


I just want to hear SGR's thought before the inevitable lynch.

[Vifam]

He posted a while ago, yeah.

[Vifam]

Yeah it'd suck to lose.

Especially after AGM's "LOL YOU'VE ALL GONE FULL RETARD" comment.

[Vifam]

That's my whole read on you, what the fuck are you even thinking?

Why is Hindu your biggest townread yet you can't even follow his thought process?


I mean seriously, you're FOSing EVERYONE else even though you can't even understand the one "townread" you have,


I'M STARTING TO THINK THAT YOU ARE

FULL OF SHIT.

[Vifam]

Oh fucking hell.


SGR I hope you are scum.

[Vifam]

Wait, how is SGR confirmed town?

[Vifam]

Ugh this game.


This

fucking game.

[Vifam]

SGR never said anything about four scum @_@

[Vifam]

"even if Hoppster isn't confirmed and there are 2 Scum"
"even"
"e"
"v"
"e"
"n"

What the fuck are you even thinking?

Wait, What?

[Vifam]

Oh man I can't fucking take this anymore.

I'm losing my mind here, seriously what the fuck man.

[Vifam]

I am so against lynching Hoppster right now.

[Vifam]

WE ARE NOT LYNCHING HOPPSTER

Deal with it Hindu.

[Vifam]

This game is turning perfectly competent people into fucking nervous wrecks.

I'm gonna stop, lets try this AGAIN when I get back.

[Vifam]

SO HERE IS MY DEAL WITH THIS PLAN:

If Hindu is scum and we NL and he kills Slaxx, that would leave Hoppster & Myself & SGR listening to Hindu screaming "I TOLD YOU SO" while leading on me since there is no way I am sheeping him on a Hoppster vote. Hoppster being all off-key and SGR herp derping. Is probably going lead to my lynch on MYLO. And even if Hindu ISN'T scum, If SGR is scum he can use Hindu as a tool to lloleasywin this.


So uh, we are not NLing.

[Vifam]

Whoa post the plan, all I'm seeing is a scum win from NLing.

[Vifam]

I think Hindu has completely different intentions.


Like, scum intentions.

[Vifam]

SO HERE IS MY DEAL WITH THIS PLAN:

If Hindu is scum and we NL and he kills Slaxx, that would leave Hoppster & Myself & SGR listening to Hindu screaming "I TOLD YOU SO" while leading on me since there is no way I am sheeping him on a Hoppster vote. Hoppster being all off-key and SGR herp derping. Is probably going lead to my lynch on MYLO. And even if Hindu ISN'T scum, If SGR is scum he can use Hindu as a tool to lloleasywin this.


So uh, we are not NLing.

If we NL I fucking know this is gonna happen. I'm just trying to think if Hinduscum is really that ballsy to pull that off.

[Vifam]

We aren't getting anywhere, are we?

[Vifam]

We aren't getting anywhere, are we?

-->Why I voted for no lynch.

Still not down with that plan.

[Vifam]

V-LA for the next two days or so, my ribs are broken and I think I am going to spend those two days crying from pain.

Noted. You'll have to tell us how you managed to break your ribs when you get back!
Have a swift recovery!
~AV

[Vifam]

Jesus.


I get enough strength to check the internet and you guys hammer.


I'm going back to bed.

[Vifam]

I don't mind the decision, I'm just surprised you guys came to a conclusion while I was away.

lolsuddenactivity.

[Vifam]

Heh, SGR did a stand up job, in my opinion.


Kind of sucks his other partners couldn't pick up the slack and got steamrolled.

[Vifam]

@SGR
Given that you consider yourself a "bad player" I think you did pretty damn well to make it that long. When Hindu said "Vifam then me" I bet you were salivating - I know I was! That would have been an awfully tight spot for Hindu to escape from if you all HAD lynched Vifam. But Hoppster held it together there rather than rushing to hammer it home, which was very good for town, but not so good for you

God, when Hindu did that I wanted to strike him down.

The only legitimate good play I did this entire game was my fake-town-slips, at least Vifam and Hindu fell for those

Those were fake? Lol I figured even if you were scum you still forgot all of those things.

Anyway, back to resting my bones.

[Vifam]

Thanks for the mod, AV.