Mini 1202 Smalltown Mafia (Game Over!)

[bobsnox]

ok I'm here. who needs to be lynched?

[bobsnox]

UNVOTE: Beck

Beck is town. My slot didn't play with him before probably <_<

I'm ok with the Psyche wagon right now. My slot though Psyche's slot was scum and I'm ok voting that way. Let me check a few more things.

[bobsnox]

*thought

[bobsnox]

but you're voting my slot?

[bobsnox]

for deadline reasons, yeah. Didnt want a no-lynch, hope we can get pap lycnehd now

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pappums rat

was I a more viable lynch, is that what you're saying? I feel like you're scummy or I'm missing something from not having read everything.

[bobsnox]

ok well there goes that suspicion

you ready to die?

[bobsnox]

bobsnox, have you read all through the game yet?

lolnope

That said, I'm gonna:

VOTE: Psyche

Let's push this game forward and see what happens shall we? No one is offering a better alternative from my brief review. I didn't see anything worth saving about the Psyche slot, either. My only other suspect is hiplop and it's my understanding he plays like this as town...

[bobsnox]

Welp I was wrong. But I'm also not scum. Pardon the WIFOM, but I'd be retarded to paint a target on my head like that. (unless I was a bomb)

I'm gonna look at the two leading wagons from yesterday.

[bobsnox]

But you were aware you were hammering before you cast it, correct?

Definitely.

[bobsnox]

I have a town read on Beck and hiplop is a good enough choice for me, so

VOTE: hiplop

Blatant sheeping, yes I know.

[bobsnox]

Beck I sheep you and this is what I get? man

Bigger post coming soon. I will make good on my promise from above.

[bobsnox]

Ok I'm going to suggest that there are a couple scum in Phoebus, Beck, and pappums. Juls flipped town, and I am town, so that takes care of the Psyche wagon. No other wagon was really going on at the lynch, so it's tough to look elsewhere. I will go ahead and ISO those three and look at who Juls suspected beyond Psyche.

[bobsnox]

Ok ISOs have been read and I have a pretty clear conclusion:

Beck is scum.

Juls pushed hardest to lynch Beck. Juls is dead. Juls did not softclaim a PR or anything like that, so I'm betting that whoever offed her did so because of her suspicions. Who was her biggest suspect? Beck.

So:

UNVOTE: hiplop
VOTE: Beck

obviously I take back what I said earlier about having a town read on Beck. Juls's ISO really opened my eyes.

charter - why those three and not Beck? I'm assuming you used the Psyche-wagon for your scumlist as well.

[bobsnox]

lol! that's basically the scummiest question you could have asked. You were a strong town read and I went into those ISOs assuming to find something suspicious with Phoebus or pappums. But lo and behold Juls has spoken from the grave.

You realize that if you successfully push my mislynch you will be autolynched tomorrow, right? You mislynched Psyche, your number one opponent died at night, and now you're pushing a bad lynch on a townie. Now which direction will you choose... hmm... attack me harder? defend yourself? deflect? retreat to wifom?

Beck you are in a pickle buddy. I'm ok dying today as long as you hang tomorrow.

[bobsnox]

Plus you can't rule out an all town mislynch, I've seen 2 in my short time on this site

That an interesting post too. Trying to discredit my line of reasoning before I even posted my conclusions.

hmm

[bobsnox]

except... I buddied after she died too... so

u scum

[bobsnox]

scrambling is a horrible word to describe my actions. what exactly is scrambling in any of my posts? you're so steeped in your theory that you can't give this a fair treatment.

[bobsnox]

What scenarios? just throwing stuff out there huh

[bobsnox]

Beck - you're just throwing that statement out there like a politician. I'd like to see some backup. Of course it's all speculation but who speculates what is a good tool for catching scum.

[bobsnox]

juls was pro-town, and she hadnt really said much to link to anyone but beck. Of course she was gonna be NK'd...

You really are scummy. Why was it obvious?

[bobsnox]

Beck - you're just throwing that statement out there like a politician. I'd like to see some backup. Of course it's all speculation but who speculates what is a good tool for catching scum.

Why Juls could have been killed

1. Juls was killed because I am scum and she was on to me
2. Juls was killed because I was pro-town my most and by killing Juls, they could set me up to look like I did it
3. Juls was killed because one of the other people she voted was worried about her
4. Juls was quieter than most so they thought she could be a power role and they were hunting
5. Juls was one of the people not squabbling and they wanted to keep all of those people alive to continue to squabble
6. Mafia flaked and didn't submit an action and mod randomly chose a kill
7. Mafia thinks Juls is a good player and just wanted her out of the picture early

7 different valid reasons why Juls could have been killed

And yet, only one accurate one.

if you're ok dying today, how about your vote yourself?

[bobsnox]

Why would I self vote?

I'm not letting town mislynch me, when we can lynch scum with you

play it out, lynch me and I flip town and you are auto-lynched tomorrow

[...]

I'm not afraid of being lynched, as long as the game ends with a town win, i'd prefer to stay alive since I am fairly certain I have scum narrowed down to you and hip (although depending on what pappums does today it could be him)

If you're that sure I will be autolynched, then why not sacrifice yourself? Obviously you're not a PR or you wouldn't (I hope) have brought it up in the first place.

[bobsnox]

lolmisrep

I'd sacrifice myself to get you lynched.

[bobsnox]

I don't want you to comment. I was explaining why it's obvious you're not a PR. That's not rolefishing.

I'll hammer myself if people promise to autolynch Beck tomorrow.

[bobsnox]

I don't want you to comment. I was explaining why it's obvious you're not a PR. That's not rolefishing.

I'll hammer myself if people promise to autolynch Beck tomorrow.

is it obvious because you rolecopped him last night???????

oh hey let me think of the worst possible scenario I can to explain the events surrounding bobsnox's statements. yeah that's a good way to play mafia

[bobsnox]

Look at hiplop grasping those straws. I'm literally the worst scum ever if I'm scum for the reasons these dudes are throwing out.

But I'm good at scum so...

[bobsnox]

"but I'm good at scum..." <--- implies I typically don't do dumb things as scum

[bobsnox]

I was scum in Philosophy Mafia which was like last month. I've been scum in other games, and if not a lot here, then several elsewhere.

What game was that anyway? I was bad scum in DEFCON 2.0.

[bobsnox]

beck there's such a thing as a generalization. 1 bad scum game out of many good scum games is called the exception to the norm.

the whole point I'm trying to prove is that I'm not a moron at scum. those of you who are on my wagon have to assume I am to be lynching me for the reasons you are.

dumb dumb dumb

[bobsnox]

2. Your refusal to believe any other reason for a Juls NK, and the only possibility is I did it because she FOS'd me implies that I'm an idiot, which I just said I'm not.

I didn't say it's the only possibility. I said it's the only applicable one. No one brought it up until I did, which means it was almost a perfect strategy.

pappums - I didn't read the thread lol. What is so hard to understand about this? I am a VT who replaced into a fairly lame game (not the Mod's fault) which was stalling on DAY ONE with TWO L-2 wagons. I hammered someone I genuinely had a scumread on, but I didn't bother reading the whole game prior to that because the game needed to freaking move on. I decided to do some actual work today, so I started with the best lead I could think of: who died and why? The most obvious answer is that Beck killed Juls. Juls did not hint at being a danger to scum, so someone killed her to avoid pressure from her. Of course there's WIFOM involved there, but it's simple and it makes sense. Pardon the use of Ockham's Razor here, but that's the option I still think is best (well, before I read your recent post that is). Those of you who are so against that are very likely scum IMO.

As I said, anyone who has read this game would know she was on him all day, and your hop onto Beck looks very contrived to me, and your recent posts have made you sound like flailing scum.

1 - Then why didn't anyone else bring it up? If you were well aware, then you should have brought it up as a possibility. Big time scumminess from that.
2 - flailing scum? lol I look like what I just described above. And it's really scummy that you said "look like" instead of just accusing me of being what you supposedly think I am. Talk about contrived.

Beck's not happening, and I'm about to die, so:
UNVOTE: beck
VOTE: pappums

[bobsnox]

Beck, unvote Bob so Phoebus can't fly in and hammer him. Phoebus needs to post, Pappums needs to post. Enough with this lurking crap.

I don't think we need to un-vote, I would think they woudl be smart enough than to paint a target on their back with a hammer without discussion.

Wait, if i'm supposedly scum then hammering me would be good.

bad bad bad

[bobsnox]

How is my Beck vote opportunistic, pappums? That's ridiculous.

[bobsnox]

hiplop - what better reason can you offer for why Juls died?

[bobsnox]

haha I am making this game so polarized. But VP and charter are thinking clearly. my vote is more and more solid every time pappums posts

[bobsnox]

do you know what ockham's razor is beck? <_<

[bobsnox]

pappums/hiplop scumteam imo.

beck - how is anyone going to get town points when I flip town? on the other hand, you can't tell me pappums is the model townie. you should promote yourself and hammer him

[bobsnox]

Beck don't be dense. That doesn't make ME a better lynch. That makes HIPLOP a better lynch. Stop tunneling, step back, and look at what's going on here.

hiplop or pappums today

[bobsnox]

This is funny.

[bobsnox]

Sorry I haven't slept in like 24 hours because I've been too busy working <_<

I'm a VT obviously.

[bobsnox]

charter - hiplop for sure. if VP is scum and hiplop is not, I will not feel bad if we lose this game because of my choice

[bobsnox]

this game is over. you're already setting me up to be mislynched.

[bobsnox]

you guys need to unvote and explain more of this crap

[bobsnox]

my strongest town read is balter and I know I'm town, yet we're the only two viable lynches? hiplop may not be scum but he's helluva lot scummier than balter. beck I have a hard time reading but POE makes him scum to me. charter idk

[bobsnox]

No speed lynch. won't be on until tonight because of a funeral

I genuinely thought baltar was town because he trusted me and made sense

[bobsnox]

Ok I'm not home yet but I do have more time atm

why is hiplop conftown again?

[bobsnox]

hiplop then you get to decide this game

[bobsnox]

I'm sorry but hiplop claimed cop? One shot or what?

[bobsnox]

I'm not convinced he wasn't bussing VP

[bobsnox]

why would i rage? I was the only lynch that was going to happen today. hiplop had it in for my slot and I wasn't going to convince him you were scum