Mini 1211: Murder in Sicily [Over]
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Maruchan she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Let's start this off with a bang, VOTE: Panacea She thinks to much like me, I'm afraid if she is on the opposite alignment of me, She has better chances of winning because she is good at dissecting any of my arguments.
<3 you Pan!
lol, now to the actual game at hand, I don't believe my roleslot has posted since the game started, so Hi everybody! this is my second game on this website, although I have done countless chat mafias prior.
I pretty much agree with the most of the cases presented against bob, and agree with a possible musicninja as a partner, but I am wary of sticking him at L-1 so far from deadline.
I would rather ask the town if they have any specific questions for me pertaining to the game so far I could answer? Talking directly with you guys in a group format, whether the content is meaningful or not will help me get on my feet in the game and feel more comfortable I think. So fire away! Once I feel a bit more comfortable here, I would be gladly to stick down my vote however.
Oh also, ignore the whole Panacea thing from earlier in the post, I'm just givin her a hard time from my last game I replaced into. She kinda had me biting my nails for nine hours straight yesterday evening. UNVOTE:ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Hey send me the role-PM of LTP, I'll pick whichever one I like better.
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@scumhunter, my last game when I replaced in and gave a strem of thought narrative on what I thought through the part of the game I wasn't here for I immediately got scumdar'd by half the game for it. I didn't want that to happen again so I figured if I just answered any questions asked of me it would be a better way to ease myself into an already rujnning game
To answer your question at first I didn't see why anyone was making suxh a big deal of the whole situation. To me it seemed like the whole thing was just blowing out of proportion faster than seemed possible. When the one person (can't remember names right this second and don't have the processpr speed to go back and ch eck quickly, on my cell at state fair) who was all "I think it could be seen as town" with no explanation after being asked page after page kept defending him I thought the two of them could be scumteam or he had some role where his life was dependant on the life of whiskers. Either way I was wary of the two. Then when he finally told us his reasoning it made sense and I began to go back to thinking the whole thing was just blown out of proportion.
As to why thoughts on whislers alignment I'm leaning more towards town. The person that accused him of scum for flip lfopping his votes on an "opportunistic hammer"? No. She switched her vote back to her main suspect after ir being on her secondary suspect. She wanted musicninja lynched and only voted bob when she felt no possible chance for a nusicninja lynch. When musicninja becomes a viable option again, shed rather lynch her number one suspect than her number 2.
I hope any of this makes sense and isn't too misspelt. I'm on my cell at statefair.
As to your auestion whiskers, if its mylo with 1 scum I would nl. If it is mylo with mulyiple scum I would lynch. When I get home I will elaborate on this, but for now t at answers your questionShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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M'kay. if it is mylo with 1 scum, I would nl, because it gives you more information. Who dies in the night A: lessens your chance of misslynch, B: gives you information to use to find out who might be scum if you can correctly interpret the night kill, C: raises the chance of hitting scum (now a 33% instead of 25% from town PoV, and a 50% rather than a 30% from individual PoV)
if it is mylo with multiple scum, I would lynch because I hate being at lylo day after day after day. Plus night kills have a double-edged sword, now the scum can talk at night about who they want to kill, the least scummy looking scum can say "Hey this is why I think the night kill happened" and then push for a vote on their partner, then the next day when there is 1 scum left he is harder to find. did that helpful townie yesterday bus his partner, or is he really a helpful townie? Much more confusing and brain-wrecking. I'd rather through a lynch and say fuck the consequences.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Robo's rules make no mention to the post-game
Robo: Can we link the QT so as to show the scum's night-discussion?ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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wow /facedesk
SORRY GUYS I CLICKED ON THE WRONG TAB> those were meant to be posted in my game I just endgamed... -.-
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17911
wow fml.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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I'm a failure at life, just ignore me and I will go away now.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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just a few quick questions for my own interests, I want to see the replies. they may be odd but just go with it please.
Substrike, can you explain in a DETAILED (longer than 1 sentence, sentences longer than 5 words) post for me why exactly you are voting Packbat, if you are honestly hopeful for a lynch on her or are just voting her without hoping for a lynch, if the second option, why don't you want her lynched if you're voting her? (if that made sense)
Panacea, are you the same alignment as me?
Whiskers, if we lynched you, would you still think its bob and music?ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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/facedesk. I meant Panacea.
past game. I got all of the people I was POINTING the questions at names correct!
(note to self: maybe not good idea to play with players you have played other games with, names may get mixed up)ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Also Whiskers, did my summary of what I thought your votes meant sound about accurate, or am I way off?ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Panacea wrote:Long time no see! And lol, a billion apologies for that. Poor Maruchan was my scumbuddy, who put a townie at L-1 as I was signing off, and got to wait with bated breath for nine hours until I got off work last night and noticed my vote was needed to win the game. ^^* I hope you're town; we're good on the same team.MARUCHAN!!!!
lol no biggy. I was just hoping you didn't hate me for accidentally mentioning your name and bringing you down with me when you ended up disappearing for 9 hours right as I voted.
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Are you town? I already notice a difference in your posting style, so I'll offer a hesitant "I think so." What do you think of my vote on your slot?Maruchan wrote:Panacea, are you the same alignment as me?
A: I think I may have confused you with my little joke I placed at the end of yesterday. I am not LTP. LTP is still MIA in terms of the game, waiting for a replacement. I am a player who (I believe) never confirmed? (if I remember correctly)
B: Any change in my posting style is purely due to experience and not based on my alignment in any way shape or form, thanks though for giving me the implied compliment of "you're no longer posting as scummy-like"! Greatly appreciated! Don't take this as me saying I am not town btw, I am town, I just want don't want to be presumed town under false pretenses. Thats like my whole ribbing I gave Stuntman about how "that is what scum do. not town". Playing under false pretenses is a form of lying by exclusion, and lying is a mafia tactic, therefore I would prefer to not use it, even if it does benefit me.
C: Good you answered my question perfectly! If you had said yes or no, I would have taken that as a slightly-scumtell, as only scum would know for sure which alignment I was.
Oh also, I want to see what this does. VOTE: bob. -waits patiently-ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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oh damn. Gah. I am not sure if I should take your "lets be honest" ploy at face value, or if I should assume you saw me use the same general "statement" then quickly threw up a reply, and added in the PREEDIT to make it look like you came up with it on your own as an attempt to AtE me.
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If your time stamp had honestly been like 2-3 minutes earlier I would have taken it at full face value without a question, for now, I'm not sure.
Whether or not it is a AtE on me, kudos for being honest and not taking an easy scapegoat credit when it isn't true. even if it is an AtE and you're scum, that is throwing away an easy out as scum, trekking for the harder path.
I was hoping I could ask EVERYONE that question, but then the results wouldn't be accurate for more than the first 1-2 people, as the scum would just copy earlier answers that seemed to sound right, or if the first player (like you) realized it was a trick question, the whole thing would have been a waste and I would have only gotten a read on the first player from it. So I settled with asking the one player I wanted to be on the same alignment with, so it would be most helpful to me, Panacea. Purely due to familiarity you could say.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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monk I know thats my point. earlier I felt it was to early to put someone at L1. I didn't want the day to en without anyone having ANY interaction from me. Now I feel a bit more confident in putting him at L1 because I want to see what this causes in the other players.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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dang I forgot that Monk had un-voted. that made my vote on him now a completely empty pointless move. -.- oh well.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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ugh I hate cop claims. fml.
VOTE: musicninja
if he is scum, and there really IS a cop out there, DO NOT CC HIM!!!!!ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Friend I agree. Also I want us to get at least one report from bob, fake cop or real, before we lynch him. which is why I switched my vote. I didn't switch it because i believe him or dis-believe him, but moreso just because I'd like to get at least one piece of information off him before we kill him.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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yeah that was what I was saying.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Musicninja is now at L-2. just FYI everyoneShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Tovarish wrote:unvote
If nothing else Whiskers, your last few posts have been good, honest, and pro-Town. What is worrying me is Maruchan's posit that your value to the Town is apparently linked to your typing speed, and that if you had simply gotten your post in faster he should believe you. For all we know, you could have actually been going to the bathroom, or putting a nice real bottle of wine in front of you. In any case, the only deadline we should be adhering to, and basing anything off of, is the moderator's lynch deadline, and I am more than willing to very closely scrutinize the next person who will assign Town-ness based on such things.
Maruchan- Not to be rude, but I don't care what you did in other games enough to look it up. If you could clarify point B in post #270, I would feel much obliged. It may also do a lot to help dispel the suspicions I have regarding a player who thought he was putting a non-claimed player at L-1.
my point B refers to this post http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 8#p3316868. thats the "Ribbing I gave Stuntman"
Basically I ISOed him then line-by-line everything he said I tacked a reason why it was scummy onto it (half of them are BS and to be ignored, I was trying to get town sheep). Many of my points though were valid, mainly: If Scum Would Do It, YOU SHOULD NOT! my Point B in this game is me telling her that. I am glad she thinks I am more town due to posting styles, but I don't want to mislead her, as thats what scum would do. I am town, but my posting style is changed due to experience, not due to alignment. Thats basically all the point meant.
also at your comment of what I have worrying you, I am not basing whether or not she is town or scum on the time she posted, but I am basing whether or not she posted the "I wish i could take credit for it but I won't" as an AtE to me from the above mentioned point or whether she really meant it.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Whiskers wrote:Like, Hurray, *hug* you said I was town and gave good reasons for it!
...I want a hug...
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^^^
throwing up a bunch of random quotes, I don't quite see the connection.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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as per you're third, your "impersonation" in quotes of what Whiskers said is inaccurate. its more like "Hey you're a smart person and I don't like smart people because smart people are to good at NOT looking scummy. I hope you aren't scum because if you are, I would have a hard time noticing it"ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Why is it that like every pretty female between the ages of 15 and 25 own an iPhone?
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even more reason to lynch music. inactivity.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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substrike, inactivity is not greater sin that scummieness, but inactivity+scummieness combines is a greater sin that scummieness alone.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Whiskers so am I, I am curious to see his case on you also, other than the whole early-game "you better be joking" thing which is so long-gone and so unimportant if thats the only reason then wow.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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I say we lynch musicninja today ,then deal with tomorrow when its tomorrow.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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mfw scumhunter is scum?
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lol ok substrike. I love how, rather than answering the question of WHY someone is scummy, he avoids the question and points more fingers.
and mfw is my face when.
and I don't want the day to end, I just want music lynched. I think he is scum, and he is inactive so it becomes even more beneficial to lynch him.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Oh. I thought we were closer to deadline sorry.
Thats why I made the "lets lynch him and worry about tomorrow tomorrow" statement. I just did a 25-page catch-up read on my other game I replaced into and they were like 24 hours from deadline so I guess I just confused the deadline of that game with this deadline. My bad.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Substrike22 wrote:Maruchan wrote:lol ok substrike. I love how, rather than answering the question of WHY someone is scummy, he avoids the question and points more fingers.
and mfw is my face when.
and I don't want the day to end, I just want music lynched. I think he is scum, and he is inactive so it becomes even more beneficial to lynch him.
I already posted the posts I found scummy about whiskers. Your buddying with whiskers plus your rush to end the day makes you officially scummier than Whiskers.
UNVOTE: Whiskers
VOTE: Maruchan
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Substrike22 wrote:I already posted the posts I found scummy about whiskers
also, no you have not. We asked you in posts 341 and 342. Every post made by you since then has been about ME. you have not yet answered me or whiskers' question.
What do you find scummy about bob?
OSHI IM ASKIGN A QUESTION IN BOBS DEFENSE!! LOOKS LIKE I BUDDIED HIM!!!! ME AND BOB ARE SCUMTEAM!!!
What do you find scummy about friend?
OSHI I ASKED A QUESTION IN FRIEND'S DEFENSE!!!!!!! LOOKS LIKE I BUDDIED HIM!!!! ME AND FRIEND ARE SCUMTEAM!!!!
seriously though, point out this buddying you're referring to other than me agreeing that I want to know what you find scummy.
you telling me (another town player) what you find scummy, BENEFITS TOWN! because if it really IS scummy, guess what. you just convinced another town player that he is scum! and if you TRULY believe he is scum, YOU JUST HELPED TOWN!!
so fersrs, me asking you why you find Whiskers scummy is a PRO TOWN question. so quit being so wishy-washy.
@scumhunter, the comment I made about you being scum I meant to make it about substrike, I got you two mixed up. my bad, sorry.
also, lrn2buddy.
wiki wrote:Buddying up is a tactic, usually used by members of the Mafia, to try to make yourself look less threatening. Typically the Mafia member will try to be friendly in some way, either outright or, more often, subtly. If the Mafia member is ever lynched at some point, and other players have noticed the buddying, it tends to throw suspicion on the person the Mafia was being friendly towards, thereby causing confusion even after the Mafioso's death.
If you are accusing me and Whiskers of buddying, you are accusing one of us of being town. SO either we're buddying, or we're both scum. One or the other. Not both.
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@Scumhunter, if there IS a real cop CC, don't claim today. Claim tomorrow. Why? If I live through the night, I will explain tomorrow.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Also, you calling me "wishy-washy" on whiskers is fucking hysterical considering I've been on that wagon 95% of Day 1.
Who are you voting for right now?
I rest my case.
Also I'm surprised people are letting Maruchan off the hook for the rushing the deadline. To me that is the single greatest scumtell we've had so far in this game and then he just casually passes it off as "oh well i thought the deadline was closer." Yeah. And then the L-1 mislynch with 2 scum already on the wagon makes that last person look realllllly suspicious, doesn't it? But it was an accident guys, no worries.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3328325
I just replaced in, and was mixing deadlines up. sorry that after reading 700 posts my brain is a little bit mixed up. We can't all have mega-brains like you.
And I definitely didn't spend 2-3 posts prior to you two grilling me on what I found scummy about Whiskers explaining what I found scummy about Whiskers, in an easy to follow 3 point guide. One point I conceeded, the other two of which still remain valid in my mind.
Hey I can makes poitns on you too without providing any links ro reference said points.
1. He flat-out told us he was scum.
2. He told us the names of all his partners.
3. He Selvoted.
okay, I admit, he didn't selfvote, but points one and two still stand!!!!
Me and whiskers were asking you to SHOW us where the scummieness happened, not summarize it in a bullet point without any form of links to or quoting of the original content. THAT, you never did.
PEdit: [substrike impersonation] "I think panacea whiskers and maruchan are scum. -someone asks me to explain why I think panacea is scum- Oh I think Maruchan and Whiskers are scum, i just said panaceas name cus it sounded right. I really only have scum-reads on Maruchan and Whiskers, but since Maruchan is being nice to Panacea even though she has town tells she must be scum!" [/impersonation]ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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you're still beating around the bush. That last post of yours, you were basically asked to show why you thought Panacea is scummy. instead of showing why she is scummy, you say she isn't as scummy as everyone else.
When me and whiskers asked you to show WHERE she was scummy, you never did.
Does anyone else notice a pattern of beating around the bush?
PEdit: LOLOLOL so now I am scummy for buddying (still going off of an inaccurate definition of buddying of course) someone completely separate from the person you found the most scummy.
wait did you mix Panacea and Whiskers up? As in you confused two separate things and interpreted them as one? OH MAI GOD! DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS SOUNDS LIKE?!?!? This sounds like me mixing up deadlines. Thats what this sounds like.
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Oh and my buddying is being nice to a girl I just got finished winning a game together with for 2 posts when I get into a game?
So I'm like, not allowed to make friends on MafiaScum?
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Pushing for an inactivity lynch over a scum lynch.
No. I was pushing for a scum lynch. Thet scum just also happened to be inactive.
If I saw someone scummier, I would push for their lynch, which honestly I do see someone scummier now, but in order for me to push for their lynch, you're going to accuse me of OMGUSing. I don't feel like feeding the trolls.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Like I said, I found someone I would much rather lynch today.
and no. I'm not OMGUSing. At first, I thought you were just dense about the whole whiskers getting mad about your fake vig hit.
I honestly could care less what you think of me because I think your scum and therefore your opinion of me is completely fabricated to assist you in winning the game.
So long as I don't get lynched today, you can do whatever you want to me. lynch me tomorrow for all I care. I just want to see bob's report tomorrow before I die. After that, you can lynch me all you want.
also as per your finally quoted posts.
SO you're basing your entire scum feeling on Whiskers, who you have been pushing for SINCE BEFORE THE GAME STARTED, based on two posts she made, WITHIN THE PAST THREE DAYS?!?!?
uhm no. Post what had your vote on her early on in the game, and any other scum reads you have. if you can't then why have you been gunning for her so hard for so long?
As per your points listed, 1. Idgaf if you're town or scum, you don't want to die. Dying as scum means you're probably more likely to lose. Dying as town means you're out of the game and no longer get to enjoy the experience. If someone ISN'T scared shitless when they're getting lynched, I'd be worried. That means they are up to something, and they WANT to die. It usually means their partner is bussing them, or they have some role whose action takes place upon their death. So you do have a point. She did have a rather high sense of self-preservation. I find that a null read. if she hadn't had a high sense of preservation, I would have found it scummy. Also you're whole pr/scum theory. How do you know she isn't PR? Is there some rule that says there is one town-aligned player that isn't Vanilla Townie? I must have missed the memo, as I have played many games with multiple PRs.
Your second point, she already cleared up with saying that she was quoting her attitude from a previous game. I believe this is the one you said you conceded on? And you're whole "not trade cop for scum d1" is complete personal opinion. If I was in a game, where there was guaranteed no more than 1 cop, no bastard modding, and no fake role PMs were given, and two people claimed cop seriously Day 1, I would be gunning for lynching one of them. If you hit the mafia, you can have a doctor on the real cop, or if you hit the real cop, any interactions the fake one made the day before with other players can be carefully scrutinized to find their partners. Personal preference of play style does not a scum-tell make.
Point 3, I already clarified this.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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also, before you use me being willing to die tomorrow as a scum-point, remember that you're the one that said townies shouldn't be afraid to die.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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lol M'kay, lynch me guys, I honestly don't care. If you want to sheep substrike like no other.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Tovarish wrote:Maruchan- You're at a whopping L-5 and you're already refusing to defend yourself? I'm willing to see the town oblige you.
according to my main attacker, I thought town are supposed to be willing to die?
Isn't that his biggest case against Whiskers? That Whiskers defended herself?
so let me get this straight.
Defending yourself when attacked is scummy
Refusing to defend oneself when attacked is scummy.
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Whiskers wrote:Tovarish wrote:You also think he is dumb. Cool, but unrelated?
On an un-related note I'm actually not dumb. I skipped 6th grade, and I just last month got a perfect score on my Navy ASVAB and am going in as a Nuclear Engineer thanks to my perfect score.
In other words: Not Dumb.
Panacea wrote:Oh dear... Maruchan, that was our scum defense in 1122, when we got Vader mislynched and we actually were like 24 hours from deadline.
Oh it was? In that case do you really think I would be stupid enough as scum to use the exact same strategy I used as scum-partners with someone else in the game who is town? (inb4 this gets called a WIFOM like every other statement I made in that game that wasn't a WIFOM)
Panacea wrote:@Whiskers and Maruchan (separately): If you are town, you need to seriously consider that the other is scum. There is definitely buddying going on here. Reading over your posts, you're both too entwined. If you're not scumbuddies, one of you is town. I suppose it's possible that you're both town, but I've never seen that. This is the scum-tactic that has screwed me in town roles every single time: scum wins by manipulating you and gaining allies. Telling you you're town to them, defending you from suspicion, are effective ways to do that.
I am keeping this in mind dw. Like I have said now, I just want to worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Why? I will tell you tomorrow.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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also on an off-note: Playing 3 games at once in order to spend more time playing doesn't work very well when 2 of those three are both in night-phases. On a plus note, this game has picked up its tempo in the past 24 hours so that now I am at least mildly entertained!ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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monk wrote:Noramp wrote:Maruchan is perhaps being anti town and annoying but I'm not sure that he's scum. He's coming off as frustrated new town to me. The whole fight seemed to be between town.
UNVOTE: I'll take Music off of L-1 seeing as it isn't really helping anything as we wait for a replacement.
However, monk's last post comes off as feigning frustration which only scum would have to do.
No it's frustration at what I think he's done which is softclaim some form of PR without actually pointing out which post he did it in got a bit tangled
Maruchan, for future reference you shouldn't do that, well I don't like people doing that when there's no reason to.
I don't think I did do that? O.o
For the info: if anyone here thinks I am counterclaim a PR, I am not claiming any role whatsoever. Even if you guys lynch me, I won't claim. Why? I simply don't feel like it. I won't make allusions to being a PR or beign a VT.
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Friend wrote:Maruchan v. Substrike comes off as REALLY town on town.
But the folks egging them on from the sidelines are scummy as hell (looking at you, Tovarish/monk).
Anyways, guys, here are the 5 people that we are possibly going to lynch today, in my order of preference:
MUSICNINJA
PANACEA
TOVARISH
LTP MAFIA
MONK
There's GOT to be 2 scum in that group, maybe 3 if bobsnox is telling the truth. But shit, guys, come on.
Who the fuck do you want to lynch today, and don't say anyone not on that list.
Not Panacea, although I agree with your comment that me and substrike is more likely town on town than him being scum.
I still agree with a musicninja lynch, but if you care to point out by way of wall-of-text why one of them is uber-scummy, I might concede with lynching the scummiest.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Friend wrote:MusicNinja wrote:So far, Whiskers seems the most scummy to me. However, I do NOT like the bandwaggon that is starting to form on him. It's way too early in the day to lynch somebody. We need to give him a good chance to defend himself. Hasty votes lead to loses. We also need to decide what we should do IF we lynch Whiskers and he flips town. Who is the next suspect? What if he flips scum? Who do we think his parters are? As scummy as he seems, we should not hammer whiskers yet. There is still much work to be done today as far as scum hunting.
Telling the town what to do without doing shit about it himself.
"Hey guys, here's the pro-town thing to do! Now go do it!"
MusicNinja wrote:Almost positive you're mafia now.
With no vote. Knew it was going to be a mislynch?
MusicNinja wrote:Remember, when you're town, you're doing real investigating and making real cases, but when you're scum, you have to manufacture votes from thin air. Seems like that's what you just did, unless you can make an ACTUAL case against me, other than the fact that I suspected you, so you automatically don't like me.
Yet again.
I'm too lazy to quote the rest of his ISO but there's a huge pattern of "We need evidence to lynch! No votes!" and then NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT HIMSELF.
@Whiskers: You're not on it cause you're town.
About LTP, his one post gives me hella scum vibes and he's lurking which is generally a shitty thing to do as town. Notice he's down there on the list, though.
I'll get back to you on Tova.
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Early in the game I was trying to not make the mistake of my last replace-in by coming in full power and permanently painting a scum target on my forehead.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Friend, I only fight when I'm asked. keep that in mind. I haven't been the tip of the sword leading any of these epic battles.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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I know, I was just clarifying that I didn't start it.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Panacea wrote:Also, I don't think it's a great idea to give us your scum list, then tell us to pick only someone from that list. On the bright side, if you flip scum, that list will probably ne revealing. Ever the optimist.
Don't be so sure. Remember, as scum buddies I was on your scum list through 99% of Newbie 1122, and you were on mine for awhile. Scum lists given by scum aren't usually very helpful imho. Too easily faked or WIFOMed.
bobsnox wrote:I know who I'm investigating tonight if I live/don't get roleblocked, etc.
In my experience, it is NEVER a good idea to tell the town who you are using your night action on, the night before you use it. I'm not sure if MafiaScum has a mafia role equivalent of a Framer (makes an innocent party look guilty), but if it does, and there just so happens to be a Framer i nthis game? Well now Whiskers is gettin framed tonight.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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odd. My internet likes to auto re-boot like once or twice during the early morning(/late night if you want to call it that) hours also. it always pisses me off.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Just as a side note, that puts him at L-2.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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And are you going to answer the question she asked you in that post, or do you plan on ignoring them (as per usual), and just responding to his comments about your editing?ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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I see the question was directed at noramp, and I am just an idiot.
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lol, liek I said, I am just an idiot and should be ignored. The down-sided of not having editable posts.ShowReturning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
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Substrike22 wrote:Friend wrote:Nobody can edit their posts, and if you somehow can it's a modkillable offense.
I did, (still had mod privs from a previous game) on one post earlier, to fix a typo. Didn't think it would be a big deal, but I noticed they put in a "post edited by" feature, so I figured I'd explain what I did.
If the mod wishes to take issue with it he may discuss it with me, otherwise I'm done talking about it. I'm not planning on editing any other posts given the amount of problems fixing a capital "T" my phone left on the top of the post has caused.
So, back to scumhunting. Why are there56 people on a wagon of a player being replaced?
Right, Thats what I have always assumed editing was from, the mod abilities in other games. Because most rulesets have editing as a modkillable offense, so I figured no players got the ability to edit unless you were modding in the same subforum, in which case you still couldn't. Then with Whiskers' comment I felt like I was getting left out or something.
Substrike22 wrote:In other words: yes he's scummy but why are we wasting our time on an L-1 Wagon unless we intend to lynch him at this point? He's not here to defend himself.
[sarcasm] Oh didn't you get the memo? We're just wagoning on him till he claims then we planned to hop off. [/sarcasm]
We're all voting him, because we intend to lynch him. So if you want to hammer hammer, but the point of ALL our votes, is we want him lynched
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Substrike22 wrote:Maruchan wrote:
(thats what votes are for right? I could be wrong... Maybe we're electing a Mayor of Townies or something. O.o)
That seems so much less violent, let's do it. I vote for myself.
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i un-second that vote and instead change my vote to Panacae. She now has two votes for Mayor of Townies.
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