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Hey grey thanks for giving me my nightmare fuel.
VOTE: Parama because you modded and played in a game before this that i was in. Hiphop you're next.
and also i have on been scum 4 out of 7 games...-
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It is? New one on me
(i was saying that hiphop is wrong not claiming >.>)-
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Voidedmafia wrote:"I have been scum 4/7 games..."
Meh, it works.
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thomith wrote:(i was saying that hiphop is wrong not claiming >.>)-
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I "claimed scum" at post 10 is what we are talking about.-
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Tbh i don't find Neruz scummy for not voting me, it seems like a town instinct to not vote if there is only one or two scumpoints on them but to rather wait untill someone with major scum points pops up.-
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I still want to know why i scored scum points though Neruz.-
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hiphop wrote:As for Neruz- I am trying to lynch scum, what are you trying to do?
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Too jokey makes me nervous? When i get called out for "claiming" when i really was taking a jab back at hiphop for his first post, (i assume this is what you mean by "jokey" as i see no other time when i have been "jokey".)
Again i will say, i don't think Neruz is scum because they didn't vote for me, Town usually want to find more than one reason to vote someone so i don't see how this is scummy.-
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Town don't usually vote for no reasoning apart from in RVS, why would town vote for someone who they can't prove are scum? Wouldn't town want to find evidence before actually voting?-
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So town should vote someone who they don't have many points on. K.-
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sure but i'm not going to believe Neruz is scum for this, as i don't see the reason why Neruz is getting bandwagoned for this reason.-
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Check my wiki.
P-edit- blatant defense, no. I am refusing to vote for him because i don't agree with the reasons.-
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Well of course i am trying to convince them not to because i don't agree with the reasoning. How is this scummy again?-
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This seems like a blatant use of my scumplay in newbie 1126 by buddying to thomas. As scum i buddy not defend. Just saying.-
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So you are basically assuming everyone that defends someone is scum. So defending someone who you disagree with getting voted for the case on thim is scummy? Good to know.-
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@hip the only way i can answer that is saying i have no way of knowing his allignment what else am i meant to say to that?
TownSometimesdon't vote a suspect if they feel the reasons for suspected them are not good enough for a vote, thus not voting them. @ the bv side of the hydra, you are basically assuming i am scum and what the scum motivations of my posts are, without thinking of what the town motivations are.-
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Not always? If town don't think their case is strong enough on someone then they don't vote. Why are we argueing about this again?-
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hiphop wrote:when people ought to see it by now.
Ought to see you metaing me for a case? This is your case on me which you can not deny, when i flip town you will look very bad for leading a lynch on me for meta.
So basically hiphop you are using meta against me? You expect to catch scum from meta? Come on hiphop i know you can play better than that.
Again i will say because you obviously can not get it into your skull I am against the Neruz wagon because there is crap logic reasoning behind it.
Bullet has a point about voided, what were your reasons for voting me? Any reasons other than the already stated?
@ most people on my wagon, you are looking at all my actions from a scum perspective, now can you honestly say that there is no way there can not be a town motivation behind them? also weird i have never posted my reads, where did you get those reads from?-
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Hiphop you are using meta ONLY. While i agree that meta can be used to see scumtells for a specific player it is never enough to form a case on them.
I don't believe the wagon is town motivated, however i don't think people like hiphop are the scum on it, hiphop of course isn't a town read of mine he is null but i think the wagon is scum motivated by the sheep following it for no reasons of their own. For this reason
UNVOTE: VOTE: Voided
P-edit- so there is no possible way that i could be defending against a towntell of mine from a wagon that i don't agree with. Ok hiphop whatever you say.-
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Also about what someone said earlier that i cannot get a towntell this early i just feel Neruz' posts are town, i don't know why but after reading them the majority seem towny, and i defended against the wagon because i didn't agree with the reasons.-
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Voidedmafia wrote:Hmm, must've gotten names wrong.
I actually have original points against Neruz, not Thomith, sorry. So, you'd be right in that I'd be sheepvoting...IF I only used other's reasoning and didn't build off it iwith my own, which I clearly didn't do when I voted you. So, your reason for voting me is baseless until you can think of something better.
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How can i defend against meta other than using meta? There is no other way i can see, if i say "you are scum because of (meta reason)" you cannot defend yourself with play in THIS game because you are being labelled scum for annother different game.
It seems like a high possibility that i will get lynched today so i am going to say that hiphop shouldn't be the lynch for tommurrow, if his play still uses meta tommurrow then lynch him but hopefully after my flip he will rethink his scumhunting tactics. You should instead look for people who jump on my wagon for little reason of their own, this could show scum that just want a mislynch so they can start killing.-
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he was blatantly using newbie 1126 against me before then, this is why i made that post.-
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him attacking me he said something like "he is defending town because he knows neruz's allignment to get town points" which i did in the game he modded so he was blatantly using that game against me.-
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Hiphop is using meta against me and using it badly. At this time i find it more of a null tell than a scum tell and find the people who seem to be following him with no reasons of their own the scummy ones, Voided is a prime example of this.
However Hiphop saying "There is no town motivaton behind your posts" seems like he is reaching here, however i don't find it majorly scummy that he is doing this, at this point in time anyway.-
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Obviously i know there is town motivation behind my posts, however i don't think he is scum at the moment. At this point i am thinking he is probably town trying to find scum but his reasons for voting me seem flawed, also i am trying to convince him he is wrong, however you don't have to be "in your face" to defend yourself.-
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omg hiphop implosion is defending me does that make us obvious scum buddies?-
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The only two people who haven't posted are Slueth and Parama. As for who the scum is i think we should look for people who haven't contributed much and seem to be following lead, as this is standard scum play, however not all scum play like it but it is a place to start.-
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Thomith wrote:Voidedmafia wrote:Hmm, must've gotten names wrong.
I actually have original points against Neruz, not Thomith, sorry. So, you'd be right in that I'd be sheepvoting...IF I only used other's reasoning and didn't build off it iwith my own, which I clearly didn't do when I voted you. So, your reason for voting me is baseless until you can think of something better.
Do YOU think i'm scum, if so why?-
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Slueth what play are you talking about when you say "has it been continuing?" ?-
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hmm.. looking back slueth and beck who have both posted have added very little to the game.
FOS: Beck and Sluethhowever my vote stays on voided for now as voided posted after my question and seemed to ignore it.
I am also looking forward to what Parama will make of this.-
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Well... ok then that seems alittleweird but i won't worry about it now. So i will UNVOTE: . Now i am going to vote one of my FOS' and seeing as beck has made more posts with almost the same amount of content than slueth i am going to VOTE: Beck as i sence a level of active lurking from him.-
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1. Why did you vote for void and why did you unvote?I voted for void for sheeping but when she unvoted and said "oh i didn't have points anyway" i became unsure and unvoted
2. Why did you FOS and vote me right so quickly after rainbow voted me? It looks like blatant sheepingi voted for you because out of about 5-6 posts you only had about 2 game related posts and the rest seemed like fluff
3. Why did you vote for me over sleuth? You had more posts
4. Did you notice my post where I explained why I was less active and promised more content later?No, i missed this so i'm sorry.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Slueth no longer FOS beck as i missed the post where he said he was going to be less active.
[quote="deselby]as beck alluded to, why are you certain that hiphops attack is based on a previous game, when this kind of attack is common?[/quote] I'm not anymore, to begin with i thought that because my play as scum was to defend a town players i instantly without thinking thought it was because of the game he modded, reading back i now relise it is a common attack.-
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Thomith's Reads-
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deselbyHis posts seem to use his own logic and not other peoples, while it is easy to just go with the flow and use others logic to catch scum he has been trying to find his own logic, this just reads town to me.
Evil BulletMostly a gut read here, his posts have been usually using his own logic but this is mainly a gut read.
implosion/ RainbowdashThey both go completely away from the crowd which scum imo don't want to do as it would bring way too much attention to themselves, so i think they are town
Null leaning Town-
HiphopAlthough of course i find him scummy for starting the wagon on me i honestly don't think scum would lead a wagon on a mislynch on day one, as after the flip they would look scummy as hell.
VoidedI find admitting to mistakes a Town tell for some reason, although i also find sheeping a null tell but voided is leaning town because he seems to use his own logic in his posts.
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BeckMainly only a Null read because he has only recently been able to post, maybe when he can start posting actively this will change to a town read
Cloudoceanone post, can't really judge someone off of that
NeruzI find the sudden jump on me weird but i still feel the early wagon on him was started by bad logic and Could have been scum motivated.
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SluethAs someone has stated he comes in literally after i say that 2 people haven't posted yet and then adds little information to the game.
weirdvoigtsSeems to be following hiphop mostly, although this is mainly a gut read.
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Parama-where are you?-
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I said i look forward to parama's thoughts because he hasn't posted yet, and i wanted to hear what he thought about it.
I unvoted because town admit their mistakes but scum don't admit their mistakes in fear of them looking scummy for them.
point 4 i already explained i said it because i instantly thought he was using that game against me which he wasn't.
Now i am L-1 and will most likely get lynched today i want to say that you should look for the sheep on my wagon, no matter how scummy he looks after my flip hiphop shouldn't be lynched tommurrow, Beck likely isn't scum either, Slueth is likely scum and should be considered along with the sheep.-
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So sorry guys i forgot that voided was on my wagon i was at L-2 not L-1 so dels if you want to revote then you can i guess although i would have hoped you thought hiphop was wrong by now...-
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weird is a big scumread of mine because they don't really seem to be using any logic of their own and seem to be using others logic and basically using terribad logic but it seemed like they knew that they were using that logic and trying to force it onto other people.-
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So proving someone wrong and then showing someone who accuses you for "claiming" what you were actually doing is overreacting? noted.-
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Thomith wrote:So proving someone wrong and then showing someone who accuses you for "claiming" but you weren't what you were actually doing is overreacting? noted.
Made it more clear as i dont know how clear it was before.-
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hiphop wrote:mini 1174--> In this game I was scum. It was a weird sort of game where there were 3 groups of townies, and 1 scum team. When someone dies(scum or town), their group(red, yellow, blue, or colorless) get more powers. At the end of day 2, no townies were dead, so townies had no powers. In which case I claimed a fake color, said who I thought was scum, and said that whoever got a power from my lynch should check out hiplop. The next post a townie(that was the main reason I was at L-1, and up to that point had advocated for my lynch) voted hiplop saying he didn't think scum would do what I just did. I then asked him if he spelled it right, and he said yes. He then votes me 5 hours later saying if I am not lynch I would be the point of contention from there on out.
Thing is in this example scum got powers if you died, in this game it doesn't seem like you do, in the example giving up sort of helped your faction but (as scum) in this game giving up hinders it.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Hiphop
Even you should know the difference between the example and the game.-
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hiphop when i flip town don't do what you are saying you are going to do by basically giving up. Keep posting asIthink you are town, but when i flip town rethink your reads, who is scummy after my flip, who seems town after my flip, think about those things and town can win, just giving up though lessens the towns thinking power unneeded by 1.-
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forgot to UNVOTE: last post as i didn't read the thread but what i say still applies, giving up tehre as scum gave scum powers in this game i don't think it does that. VOTE: slueth-
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I voted in the first place because my views made me vote you to prove you wrong, i unvoted because i would prefer to be voting someone who i think is scum than someone i think is town.-
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I suspect Slueth not for lurking but when he posted he didn't post any content, parama has definately shot up my suspicion list too as he didn't post any content when he posted but it seems he had a reason where slueth doesn't seem to.-
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I can agree i have done some scummy things, but i would like to point out that my wagon is most likely scum motivated, but not by the right leaders like hiphop or beck but by people like weird who are not really focusing on anything else but me, this seems like tunneling scum.-
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MOD- you have beck voting twice, for parama and hiphop, and it says beck is getting voted when he isn't
You see nothing. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.Last edited by GreyICE on Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:43 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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nevermind the second bit, you edited it.-
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Slueth you OMGUS me without reading the thread? Very scummy, wouldn't you want to see if anyone else is scummy first?
My vote stays.-
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EB wrote:This is a stupid freaking post. Someone needs to go into newbie games and stop teaching the new ones to get off that lynch lurkers mentality, IT DOESN'T WORK. Are you actually scum? Cuz your wagon is terrible but it might be getting lucky. I don't wanna believe it but really? You voted Beck? What the hell.
I voted beck because he looked like he was active lurking but i missed the post that he said he was going to be a bit inactive, so i unvoted.-
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I thought i had mentioned it, just checked and i hadn't although i did write a post about it but it must have got deleted.-
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Evil Bullet wrote:So tell me. Who's your third buddy?
You are assuming there are 3 scum, where there could be 2 teams of 2 or even 2 scum and a sk. Just saying you cannot assume there are 3 scum.-
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adding to what Beck said leaders are only sometimes scum, and obviously shouldn't be assumed that all town leaders are scum.-
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beck wrote:Thom, you need to switch to hip really
I am not voting for someone who i don't think is scum, sorry but no.-
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I don't think scum would draw as much attention to themselves as hiphop has by leading my wagon, it just doesn't make sence to me.-
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since January. What does that matter? Why would mafia draw that much attention to themselves so early on day 1.-
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weird read the thread i already answered the question, i am not answering it again.-
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about the people who slip on the wagon for little or no reason, i feel this is more scummy than being the ringleader, which is why i find slueth more scummy than hiphop.
p-edit i have already posted it to a response to voided i believe but just for you-
Thomith wrote:I voted in the first place because my views made me vote you to prove you wrong, i unvoted because i would prefer to be voting someone who i think is scum than someone i think is town.-
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@hiphop it wasn't him OMGUSing that was scummy, it was him not even reading the thread then deciding to OMGUS that was scummy.
also i voted you then realised that i was being an idiot and unvoted, because i had you as a town read. Although i am not so sure on that read anymore, but you are still a town read.-
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Ellibereth wrote:Hi
Who's scum.
Slueth. Seriously though read the thread and make your own mind up, don't let others decide for you.-
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First at beckbeck wrote:so you think people who like you are town,
he said people who think like him are town, this still isn't a towntell though.
Also this is not using meta against people it is to show that you shouldn't be assuming some things you are (@ hiphop)
Newbie 1085 J set up lynches most of the game, ended up J was town, setting up lynches isn't a scumtell.
Mini 1190 Scum had day talk so it shouldn't be assumed scum don't have day talk, however it shouldn't be assumed they do either.-
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