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Vifam wrote:I want a cliffnote version of this game.
Why did I say this? No one ever gives one to me. I guess it's a habit.
VOTE: AlMasterGM
AlMasterGM wrote:Man Hindu is so good at this game. what a pro tell.
vote: slaxx
AG opens up with blatant sarcasm (Okay I could be wrong about this but it looked pretty sarcastic from my end), along with his vote that makes me think that he knows Slaxx isn't scum.
I only read the first page, that's all I got. But there doesn't seem to be any pressure on AG, so I'm just gonna throw that out there. More later when I actually get to reading this thread.ok-
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AlmasterGM wrote:Anybody not voting SAM needs to read the first two pages and then read this quote:
Science and Magic wrote:He's the central figure of the starting wagonand I'm trying to end the RVS?
which will make it extremely clear SAM is making stuff up and is scum.
p.s. this means you hindu because your sam town read is wtf
Looking at the joindate and the fact that this is the first game he is participating in, how does that indicate scum vs noob town?
I actually feel that my vote isn't out of place here.
Sam wrote:You're doing it by ISO instead of actually reading the thread in order?
Not really, you misunderstood it, I'm reading the thread in order, and looking at the ISO's of the two largest wagons. I.E Diamond and SaM.ok-
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This is pretty obvious distancing.
Vifam has apparently "only read the first page" - what's the point in making a vote there before you've read the whole thread?
Like, I said before, there was no pressure on AG and I wanted to get the ball rolling in someone elses direction. The focus on SaM and Diamond is kind of unbelievable.
Hopster wrote:This is a pretty awful vote.
Diamond is only in my scum-list through PoE, and looking through his ISO I don't see anything scummy enough to warrant "hurr durr I knew AGM was scum from pg1 but I'll put Diamond to L-1 because he's scum <no reasons provided> P.S. btw, I actually haven't read the whole game yet".
One of my other scumreads are at L-1, why would I stay on AG when I think scum is closer to being lynched?ok-
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Hoppster wrote:^^ suggests that when he first made his AGM vote he:
Wasn't even convinced of the vote himself
Thought it likely he'd be changing his vote very shortly
Neither of which suggest a pro-town mindset, but do suggest a scum mindset looking to distance.
You're forgetting that I was reading the thread for the first time, and the goal of the initial vote was to get some discussion towards another player. You're implying that at the time I was 100% sure AG was scum.
Hoppster wrote:Because you showed reasoning for your AGM scumread but not for your Diamond scumread (so for all I know you have no reasoning)?
Yeah, that's kind of an assumption but w/e:
My scumread on Diamond is that I don't think he is playing indicatively to the meta he has to believe:
Diamond wrote:Hinduragi, I tend to question a lot regardless of alignment. Look to my completed games as proof. The whole "safe vote" and being "nervous about laying a vote down" stems from my playstyle more than anything else. Again if you examine some of my previous games you'll see that I tend to be cautious and very deliberate with votes.
See, this kind of mixes up with his votes on LLD, since as you can see they were not "careful" at all.
Diamondilium wrote:Lady Lambdadelta wrote:... an even night Serial Killer. Right.
Unvote; Vote: Diamondolium
Even night you say...
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:OH, AND I'M A EVEN KNIGT VIG
-_- I read this claim as "I'm even a night vig." Hmm well that changes things...
Unvote
I'm gonna go reread.
He just contradicted his own meta because he was obviously nervous.ok-
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Hoppster wrote:Okay, I see what you mean, but...
His self-meta was that he was careful with making a vote. He voted before the claim, not because of it. It was then a (plausible) mistake he made in reading the claim that meant he kept the vote.
Is that your only basis? Are you still happy with your conclusions from it?
What? Are you trying to say he didn't see the claim? I don't get it.
SGRaaize wrote:Also, good to have you here, Vifam, a shame you replaced NBT, though
I replaced Pine.
And you're so, so welcome.ok-
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Hinduragi wrote:Vifam wrote:I said I was torn, I didn't say that I was against lynching Diamond completely.
At this point, I'm willing to go in any direction you guys see fit.
"I'm willing to not be a mislynch"
LOL
That was obviously towards Diamond's claim, not the game overall. Of course I'm not gonna take a backseat the whole game.
There is nothing wrong with my vote, I've already expressed that I was torn about how to go about Diamond's claim. I already expressed that I didn't believe it was real.
The wagon was switching back his way, so why would I go against a claim that I think is fake when town is about to lynch it?
I was going to be okay with any action the town took at that point, weather it be to live Diamond be or to ML him today.ok-
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SGRaaize wrote:Riddick wrote:p.s. vifam looks sorta townish.
Don't fall for it, I know Vifam and I have played with him for a while, here are some tips to read him
1) When he's contributing and scumhunting very actively although lazily, he's Town
2) When he's acting non-chalantly and not contributing or scumhunting, he's Mafia
I know he tends to say Town shit and act like Town from time to time, but just follow these guidelines and you too can read Vifam like a pro
lolololololok-
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SGRaaize wrote:Hey, Riddick, considering your lack of pointless agression and considering your straight-forwardness, I'm guessing I'm talking with Faraday.
Please, trust me on this, Vifam is Mafia, I am so sure, but so sure of this, I will literally eat a hat and eat it if he isn't.
Yes, I will pick a hat, and use my mouth to ingest it if Vifam isn't Mafia.
That's how sure I am
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Hinduragi wrote:Vifam wrote:Hinduragi wrote:That was obviously towards Diamond's claim, not the game overall.
It doesn't matter if it's short term or long term because it showed the mindset I quoted.
I don't see it, explain a little more.
You said "it's only for the claim" which doesn't matter because you're flexible to go either way depending on what everyone else wants to do. You want to APPEASE everyone else, NOT determine if it was an ACTUAL fakeclaim or not even though you said you DIDNT think it was real.
Except I'm not trying to "appease" anyone, I'm going with what is seen as the optimal play.ok-
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AlmasterGM wrote:Read up, but not much time to type. Super abbreviated notes -
Cop+Doc was cool like 10 years ago. That said, there is something about Cop+Doc that is appealing to people running their first game. I did it in mine. So that's fairly null, but the doctor will have to be taken care eventually so we might as well let it go. There is also the possibility Mastin2 is lying about being a miller, but I think this unlikely (even though his reads are mostly crappy).
Otherwise,vote: unvote, vote Vifam
Jesus.
Slaxx wrote:In fact, Diamond Scum=AGM scum. Easy peasy.
Slaxx wrote:In fact, Diamond Scum=AGM scum. Easy peasy.
Slaxx wrote:In fact, Diamond Scum=AGM scum. Easy peasy.
Slaxx wrote:In fact, Diamond Scum=AGM scum. Easy peasy.ok-
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SGRaaize wrote:Vifam wrote:SGRaaize wrote:Second option, guaranteed
You really need to work on that meta on me.
Heh, I am just playing a character now, I'm not so sure about you anymore. But I still rather lynch you instead of AllmasterGM, Diamond or Gorilla.
I'm still fine with a Science Lynch, btw
Fuck no man.
Lynchpool is Diamond and AG.ok-
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I'm bored. Case on AGMscum incoming:
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AlmasterGM wrote:Anybody not voting SAM needs to read the first two pages and then read this quote:
Science and Magic wrote:He's the central figure of the starting wagonand I'm trying to end the RVS?
which will make it extremely clear SAM is making stuff up and is scum.
p.s. this means you hindu because your sam town read is wtf
As I said before, this wasn't a direct scumtell at all, at the time AGM should have realized the SaM was a new player and what he said doesn't indicate a scumtell. This was a noobtown tell at the time if anything.
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AlmasterGM wrote:Science and Magic wrote:What am I at, L2?
@Alm - how am I making stuff up? How is anything I said complicated? Why you tunneling bro? Give me a legit case.
No. I have already stated why your posts are scummy. Other people are voting for you, so they clearly agree. We don't need to waste time explaining ourselves to you. If you want to live, you can go back and spend your own time figuring out what you did wrong and what you want to say in response.
Using the majority as a way to cop out of confrontation. This was actually some pretty serious deflection.
"Everyone else is voting you, look at what they post and find out why", basically.
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AlmasterGM wrote:Read up, but not much time to type. Super abbreviated notes -
Cop+Doc was cool like 10 years ago. That said, there is something about Cop+Doc that is appealing to people running their first game. I did it in mine. So that's fairly null, but the doctor will have to be taken care eventually so we might as well let it go. There is also the possibility Mastin2 is lying about being a miller, but I think this unlikely (even though his reads are mostly crappy).
Otherwise,vote: unvote, vote Vifam
-Makes a passive defense on Diamond being town
-Drops SaM as scum when he was willing to quicklynch him earlier:
AlmasterGM wrote:quick lets lynch him before hindu gets back teeehehehehee
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None of his votes have a whiff of town motivation, fuck that shit.ok-
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Your reads are twisted, every person you push for scum is the wrong person.
Diamondilium wrote:I haven't posted my case on either you or Gorilla. What I did post was a response to posts 380-383.
Mastin is one of my top townreads, so I doubt Diamond really has anything substantial to bring to the table in the first place. Waiting for his "case" is not something I feel like doing.ok-
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AlmasterGM wrote:Vifam wrote:But what is this, honestly?
Could be anything.
Maybe I'm secretly telling LLD all my reads so I keep looking bad and don't get NK'd and catch all the scum in the meantime.
Or maybe I'm privately expressing my love for LLD and asking her out on a date.
Or maybe it's gibberish and I'm just trolling FOR THE LULZ.
BUT IF YOU VIG ME TONIGHT...
...YOU'LL NEVER KNOW.
CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT?
I don't know, I hate being out of the loop.ok-
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charter wrote:Science and Magic wrote:I'd gladly wagon any of these people: Wicked/Almaster/LLD
I can see my current Wicked line isn't going anywhere so I'llunvote
Vote: LLD
Also: nbt, pine, gorilla - sup?
Here's what really happened.
Science voted Wicked at the top of the page.
Wicked shot down his case.
Science ignored it.
A LLD wagon sprung up.
Sciencescum flails.
Science abandoned ship and voted LLD.
He says Wickid makes a compelling case proving Science as scum, what would motivate him to investigate Wicked?ok-
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AGM wrote:You know, you're actually a GREAT CANDIDATE for the [INSERT NAME OF LAZY OR STUPID SCUM HERE] slot, seeing as you've gone ahead and claimed total ignorance of the code I posted.
Yeah, I should have paid attention to that. But I have no idea what website SaM got that from.
I'm feeling lucky.
VOTE: Charterok-
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