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Voidedmafia wrote:Neruz wrote:implosion wrote:If Thomith is scummy, why make a second RVS vote?
weirdvoigts wrote:OK, if Tomith is scummy, then why did you place another random vote?
Why not!
Um, wouldn't you usually vote your suspects? Even if this is RVS somewhat.
I didn't say i suspected him, i said he scored some scum points. I'd need a hell of a lot more than just one rather mildly scummy reaction before i start 'suspecting' someone, especially given there are plenty of players who havn't even posted yet.-
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Evil Bullet wrote:Neruz wrote:Wow, i go to sleep and wake up tothis?
Not sure what he's referring to...
I went to sleep after Thomith and Voidedmafia had each overreacted to the other a bit and generally been either slightly scummy or mildly stupid. I come back to discover they set off a resonance cascade of ever escalating absurdity over the next three pages.
And there's also fucking ponies.
VOTE: Thomith for scummy reaction to early pressure.
FOS: Voidedmafiafor taking Thomith's overreaction and running with it like an opportunistic scum.
One of these two is probably scum, possibly both if one is third party. I can't see two townies having that interaction with each other.-
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Rainbowdash wrote:@Neruz - Explain how the exchange between Thomith and VM cannot come from town v town
I cannot, such absolutes do not exist in Mafia.
Rainbowdash wrote:Third party talk from Neruz bugs me a bit since I could nearly guarentee you that there is no third party in this game and its a great scum scare tactic to throw that in.
GreyICE advertised this game specifically as being the first normal game to be approved with three cult leaders. I have no idea if he was serious or just dicking around though.-
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Rainbowdash wrote:Neruz wrote:Rainbowdash wrote:@Neruz - Explain how the exchange between Thomith and VM cannot come from town v town
I cannot, such absolutes do not exist in Mafia.
Fine. Explain why the exchange between Thomith and VM "probably" cannot come from town v town.
Being snide will get you nowhere.
Because i cannot imagine a town mindset that would result in an escalating shouting match to that degree. The kind of fear that leads one to attempt to back-justify like that does not come from town, in my experience.
Rainbowdash wrote:Rainbowdash wrote:Third party talk from Neruz bugs me a bit since I could nearly guarentee you that there is no third party in this game and its a great scum scare tactic to throw that in.
GreyICE advertised this game specifically as being the first normal game to be approved with three cult leaders. I have no idea if he was serious or just dicking around though.
Unless I fail to understand the definiton of normal, cults are not normal, and cannot exist in a normal game. I still can basically give you that "absolute" that there is no cult. Stop trying to spread paranoia.
Take it up with GreyICE, not me. I'd quote the PM he sent me (and presumably others), but i think that technically violates Rule 1. Regardless, GreyICE explicitly stated there were three cult recruiters in this game, that it had been rejected over 11 times by Vi and Hoopla, called a travesty to the concept of balance and fair play and winner of the most explicitly non-normal role submissions that will be explicitly blacklisted on the wiki as soon as the reviewers find their jaws.
How much of that is true i have no idea, but given this is GreyICE we're dealing with i'm going to assume it's all true unless i get some compelling evidence to the contrary.-
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Rainbowdash wrote:@Neruz - Games need to be approved. Three cult recruiters would not be approved, especially since I don't think that can even balance with just 13 ponies playing.
Plenty of shit has gotten through the approval process before; it's highly subjective. You can say all you like about balance and approval processes, but until i see definitive proof that GreyICE's PM is outright lies, i am going to operate under the assumption that it is not, purely because it's far too dangerous to assume it is lies if it turns out to be truths.-
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deselby wrote:I still don't think neruz or thomith has explained why he voted for someone else when he had a scummier option.
I have. It appears that not everyone was willing to accept my explanation, but its there. The simple reality is it was two dozen posts into the game in RVS before everyone had checked in yet and one player reacted in a mildly scummy way to some pressure imposed by another player. I wasn't gunning for a lynch and there was no need to apply more pressure on Thomith because ample pressure was already being applied.
I'm not sure why these basic concepts seem so hard for some people to grasp, but apparently they are.-
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deselby wrote:Fair enough, but you didn't actually explain it that way in the post you quote here.
If you'd stopped to think about the post for half a second instead of just mindlessly sheeping someone else's argument, you'd have realised all of what i just said because it's the most blatantly obvious play in the history of mafia.
Mafia is a game of wits deselby, how about you start using yours?-
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Thomith wrote:Hiphop is using meta against me and using it badly. At this time i find it more of a null tell than a scum tell and find the people who seem to be following him with no reasons of their own the scummy ones, Voided is a prime example of this.
However Hiphop saying "There is no town motivaton behind your posts" seems like he is reaching here, however i don't find it majorly scummy that he is doing this, at this point in time anyway.
This doesn't make sense.
If you are town, then there obviouslyistown motivation behind your posts, ergo from your POV Hiphop is blatantly wrong when he states there is no town motivation behind your posts. You should be all over him for that; you have something which you know, for ais incorrect.fact
Unless, of course, you're not town and you know that Hiphop is right, in which case that post makes perfect sense. Hello scum.-
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Thomith wrote:Obviously i know there is town motivation behind my posts, however i don't think he is scum at the moment. At this point i am thinking he is probably town trying to find scum but his reasons for voting me seem flawed, also i am trying to convince him he is wrong, however you don't have to be "in your face" to defend yourself.
My point was that you should be trying to both explain said town motivation and actively defending that part of Hiphop's accusations, rather than just doing the mafia equivilant of shrugging your shoulders and going 'meh', because it makes you look like you have no defense.-
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Beck wrote:p.1 - voided clearly missed where hip said Thom was always scum and thom replied back showing he hasn't always been scum, clearly it wasn't a claim and anyone who actually thinks it was isn't looking at the big picture, so that would be specifically voided andneuru.
Where the fuck did i say i thought Thomith was claiming scum.What?!
My god, how do people who cannot read english manage to sign up for Mafia games on an english forum.-
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Beck wrote:Neruz wrote:Beck wrote:p.1 - voided clearly missed where hip said Thom was always scum and thom replied back showing he hasn't always been scum, clearly it wasn't a claim and anyone who actually thinks it was isn't looking at the big picture, so that would be specifically voided andneuru.
Where the fuck did i say i thought Thomith was claiming scum.What?!
My god, how do people who cannot read english manage to sign up for Mafia games on an english forum.
ok please don't insult my intelligence again, it's obvious you think he is scummy for what he was saying because of this
Neruz wrote:I'll be honest Thomith, you've scored a few scum points in that little alitercation.
VOTE: hiphop for having a name that is similar to hiplop.
sure you didn't SAY it, but you sort of IMPLIED it because you thought he was scummy.
I can readed da engrish gooder
Clearly not. Thomith scored scum points because he overreacted to Voidedmafia's pressure.
When you say someone has done something, do check to make sure theyactually did it.Otherwise you just look like lying scum and any attempts to correct yourself just look like covering your ass.-
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EBWOP: And for those of you who are apparently incapable of understanding basic mafia concepts, Thomith scored a few scum points because he took Voided's joke about him 'claiming scum' seriously. Towniestypicallydon't react defensively to jokes like that, it was a small thing and in RVS so i didn't see any reason to take it particulary seriously yet, townies are capable of being jumpy too and it wasn't like he'd overreacted crazily and turned the entire thing into a four page discussion.
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Beck wrote:Neruz wrote:Beck wrote:if you think somebody is scummy, you potentially think theycanbe scum.
Incorrect. Townies are capable of doing things that look scummy.
now who can't read English?
I assumed that was an error, sinceanyonecanbe scum. Only mod-confirmation a player as town makes it impossible for them to be scum.
So, uh, good job stating the bleeding obvious there. My error for overestimating you.-
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Beck wrote:But it doesn't explain how you think somebody is scummy, yet refuse to pursue it with pressure from a vote
*COUGH COUGH*
Neruz wrote:deselby wrote:I still don't think neruz or thomith has explained why he voted for someone else when he had a scummier option.
I have. It appears that not everyone was willing to accept my explanation, but its there. The simple reality is it was two dozen posts into the game in RVS before everyone had checked in yet and one player reacted in a mildly scummy way to some pressure imposed by another player. I wasn't gunning for a lynch and there was no need to apply more pressure on Thomith because ample pressure was already being applied.
I'm not sure why these basic concepts seem so hard for some people to grasp, but apparently they are.
*COUGH* TRYREADINGNEXT TIME *COUGH*
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Beck wrote:You unvote void because you like him as a town read so you don't want your vote on him
I have no fucking clue where you got that from. I unvoted void because i felt like it and it was still RVS.-
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Beck wrote:I read your explanation, doesn't mean I beleive it
You didn't say anything about believing it. You said i didn't explain it. Not explaining something != not believing the explanation.
Beck wrote:The 2nd part, dude for saying I can't read you clearly fail at it cause I explained how I (bolded it even) perceived your actions.
This means, this was MY INTERPRETATION OF THE SERIES OF EVENTS.
Which is wrong, and i'm making sure you are aware of that because you are apparently intellectually challenged.-
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Beck wrote:but fine, you think I am intellectually challenged explain this to me please.
From your earlier explanation -I didn't say i suspected him, i said he scored some scum points. I'd need a hell of a lot more than just one rathermildlyscummy reaction before i start 'suspecting' someone,
from post 179 -Thomith scored scum points because heoverreactedto Voidedmafia's pressure
definition of mildly(well mild acttually) - mild (mld)
adj. mild•er, mild•est
1. Gentle or kind in disposition, manners, or behavior.
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a. Moderate in type, degree, effect, or force: a mild pipe tobacco; a mild sedative.
definition of overreact -overreact [ˌəʊvərɪˈækt]
vb
(intr) to react excessively to something
so was his reaction a mild scummy reaction like you said at first or was it an overreaction like you said more recently?
It would be helpful if you kept your story straight so that is why i am asking for clarification, you know being that I am so "intellectually challenged" and all.
and lastly, please don't insult my intelligence again.
See, it's posts like these which is why i keep calling you an idiot. You clearly don't understand English at all despite your protests to the contrary.
Thomith overreacted to Voidedmafia's pressure, that overreaction was mildly scummy and scored him a few scum points. And if it wasn't for the fact that you have shown a distinct lack of comprehension when it comes to basic English, i'd think you were trying to create scumtells on me.-
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hiphop wrote:Neruz- What do you mean you don't understand? As active as he was in the last game, if he doesn't have time to post a vote count, then he must be extremely busy right now.
Ohh, that's what you were getting at. Yeah i'm sure GreyICE has a perfectly good excuse (ehh, maybe not that sure >.>) the calling GreyICE a lazy bum was meant as a joke, since he promised one awhile back but failed to deliver-
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hiphop wrote:[
I agree, but I still believe she is town. Literally, every single post(except for the last one) screams town. And one cannot and should not ignore that.Neruz wrote:EBWOP: Rainbowdash's last post is quite scummy actually, retract my statement about her being town.
Oh i'm not ignoring it, but that last post is a bad post and that's enough for me to consider Rainbow a null pony for now.-
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Beck wrote:When I posted the "coaching" comment I wasn't thinking about scum talk.
Hiphop just made an assumption based on nothing
I was referring to it looked like coaching(in-game) to me because void just seems to accept what rainbow says with no other response back, just "ok" and moved on
That's stood out as odd to me
I do not think that coaching means what you think it means. I think the word you are looking for is 'sheeping' not 'coaching'.-
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Beck wrote:Ellibereth wrote:who coached who in game?
It looked like rainbow spoke, and void listened and accepted her posts with no real feedback. Maybe coaching was the wrong phrase but void's responses just didn't feel natural to me.
Yeah, that's not coaching, that's sheeping. Coaching would be if rainbow told void what to do.-
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Beck wrote:I don't think anyone is calling hip an easy target, I feel thom is an easy target cause of his obvious similarities to a VI/SI
Beck wrote:The thing with hiplop is he is an experienced player and thom is scummy, clearly if I can make a wall on him, he is obviously scummy doif he is town. If he is scum, he won't last til end game.he is an easy target
Let's just agree that thom is scummy, but let him not be lynched d1
So question to hip, has anyone else garnished your attention as being scummy and you would be intersted in voting?
If yes, who and explain why they are scummy.
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Beck wrote:Neruz wrote:Beck wrote:I don't think anyone is calling hip an easy target, I feel thom is an easy target cause of his obvious similarities to a VI/SI
Beck wrote:The thing with hiplop is he is an experienced player and thom is scummy, clearly if I can make a wall on him, he is obviously scummy doif he is town. If he is scum, he won't last til end game.he is an easy target
Let's just agree that thom is scummy, but let him not be lynched d1
So question to hip, has anyone else garnished your attention as being scummy and you would be intersted in voting?
If yes, who and explain why they are scummy.
Again with the reading, hip is attacking thom, cause THOM IS AN EASY TARGET
The HIM/HE is Thom, not hip
*Cough*
Neruz wrote:Wait, ignore previous rage, i misread Beck's post.-
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Ellibereth wrote:aka that felt fucking disingenious
discredatious
whatever the hell the word is
discreditationgenious
one example
one "Viey" example from Beck
Though you seem to see more than one, or feel more than one somewhere.
Just quote them over.
I'm not sure what you're after, but i'm guessing you want some examples of Beck's posts that i'm getting hueg scum vibes from:
Beck wrote:Oh your other points
1. I dont beleive your explanations cause I read your posts and I feel my interpretation is right
2. I'm not trying to coach you so I don't know why you think I am
Beck wrote:@ void, obviously you are going to disagree with if, regardless of your alignment.
Unfortunately I go off my own interpretations and I feel your explanations aren't truthful
Not even sure why you said im coaching you, that's a big stretch.
Lastly, That's great you agree with everyone. I wish I could do that.
Are the two that immediately come to mind. I have no idea why, logically i can't see anything in there except blind stubbornness, but something i can't put my finger on just seemsoff.-
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Ellibereth wrote:I don't care about scumvibes
well I do, that's natural, and it's nice that you quoted. Gut is just gut.
What I don't get is the 'Viey' part of things you brought up.
What's 'Viey' there. At all. And don't say stubborness.
Um, that would be the blind stubbornness? Voided gave reasoning for most of the things Beck brought up, Beck responded with what basically amounted to 'no ur wrong'. That's pretty standard VI territory there.
I do find it interesting how fast you chainsawed me though.-
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Voidedmafia wrote:Neruz wrote:Neruz does not sheep, Neruz always carefully considers every action he takes. Sometimes he then says fuck it and does something else anyway, but never sheep.
I do not see any compelling evidence as why i should unvote Thomith. Vote stays where it is.
Would you vote Deselby if a thomith wagon isn't going to happen today and desel's at L-1 (or L-2) with 3< days before deadline?
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Ellibereth wrote:Okay
Take away flips
Player A attacks Player B for his bad attack on Player C.
Then what.
I'd also you didn't anwser and just voted Voided.
Thomith isn't happening, he's bullet bait.
If C doesn't defend himself and lets A do all the work then that is a pretty strong scumtell for C.
I will vote voided if and only if we are in the last 24 hours and there are no other possible lynch candidates and not one moment sooner.-
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