Open 9 - Basic Twelve Player (Game Over!) - before 400

[IH]

If everyone would look at the titles, some of this would be explained....

Obligatory Vote:Twito

The same could be said about you. Something about a newbie game that Thok only didn't count to ruin the game....

<.<

[IH]

I can just about see Battle Mage if he was scum saying to the others "hey, wouldn't it be funny if the doctor was Sage" and them agreeing, what the hell, may as well go for it, and then BM being unable to resist this post, a kind of coded "omg guys it worked how cool is that???"

.......?

unvote, Vote:Ripley

[IH]

And me stupid replied to the same comment with a smiley face.. I guess you can also vote based on it..

Well, I replied with a vote, because, I mean, did anyone really apply any reasoning to voting for BM before this, and Ripley just kind of made something to fit into it..... I need to look over the thread again to see why TCS and Fircoal hopped on the wagon...

[IH]

Twito... if you think Fircoal is scummy for Ripley's reasoning.... why aren't you voting Ripley? If that's why you're voting Fircoal, shouldn't Ripley be your manin vote, and watch Fircoal?

IGMEOY:Twito

[IH]

I've go my eye on you. Or were you asking why I had my eye on him?

[IH]

Oh, I thought it was a vote cause you were a Jerk. <3

Yeah, Battle Mage is innocent. I remember being a newbie too.

I'll throw in an unvote, vote Fircoal while I'm here. Nothing you've said makes me believe you're not scum.

I believe that Battle Mage is not the only newbie... have you bothered to look at the townsperson titles? So if you're willing to cut Battle Mage some slack, why not spread the newbie slack all around? I mean I'm just saying.....

Also Battle Mage, Claiming is not good. Not only is there NO call for it, but you have just eliminated the scum's shot at a potential power role. Don't take things so personally, as this is a game, and someone is going to have to get attacked.

[IH]

The fact that he's trying hard to RETRACT his remarks, however, suggests that he (a) realizes/realized why claiming vanilla is dangerous for the town, and (b) is willing to INTENTIONALLY cast doubt on himself in order to overcome that mistake. This very much spells town to me.

Are you even reading the same game? BM still doesn't consider it wrong, and is saying SV has the bad logic and is not seeing it? I see no retraction from him at all.

unvote, Vote:lowell

There was something else that I saw in that post also that I may hit upon later.

[IH]

Seriously guys, am I the only one who thinks the things I pointed out in post 79 scummy?

[IH]

OK, I'll cave, but that should be a EBWOP of 70 and 79.

Either you think he's foolish for claiming vanilla or you think he's scum. If it's the first, you should complain at him but not vote. If it's the second, you should vote but not complain. You can't reasonably be both upset that he claimed vanilla AND suspect him of being scum.

SV had already explained her actions, not to mention lack of response about your vote on fircoal.

I still don't like your defense of BM. especially by giving him an essential out about the retracting and and such. = /

[IH]

What is your opinion on this meta statement: "One Day 1 lynch is as good as any other."

....Why did you ask that question? I'm curious.

I also Echo Spectrumvoids questions.

[IH]

May I ask why you quoted yourself for that AndrewS vote?

[IH]

Nevermind, I thought I had the last post of page four.

unvote, Vote:AndrewS

Agreeance with SV on this one.

Also, Spectrumvoid is a laydee(Lady). Gender Icons help. <3 SV

[IH]

Shadowlurker I hate your picture posts, they make me scroll sideways.

shinkick:Shadowlurker

[IH]

AndrewS is now at lynch minus 2.

I need to go over the thread instead of being retarded.

[IH]

Could we have a prod on fircoal?

Also if Warming up to SV is a scumtell, then I must look scummy in every game I'm in with her. = )

Still rereading.

[IH]

Ha! Lying scum! It's 8 pages doesn't take THAT long to re-read.

It does when I'm illiterate ;_;

Actually it does when I have other games to check on and keep getting distractions, like my 7 year old sister pulling on me, repeating my name every other second. = )

[IH]

= | I'm seriously not seeing too much, though I am having problems to actually get time to do a reread pbpa.

I've been sick alot also, so lately I've mostly only been able to respond to current things in my game.

[IH]

Is there an actual case against me besides (lurk lurk lurk)?

Also, yes I am here now. = )

[IH]

1.Hypocrisy would=scumminess Shadowlurker in the case of spectrumvoid (who I am most suspiciosu of at the moment)

1.Votes someone
2.Others agree with her, and also vote them
3.Becomes suspicous, and accuses the person who would be on the bandwagon for the same reason.

= | I seriously haven't seen any coherent case against me other than ShadowLurker saying "IH is scum. SV is scum. TCS is scum. Who's ready to lynch?"
he also compares that game to Switch mafia, which I would say a no to, since we had a little bit more information too.

I don't like how TCS suddenly jumped onto me, first with the intention to wagon me, and then acting as if he actually saw something scummy.

So, is there a case on me besides lurking the hell out of this game?

unvote, vote:SpectrumVoid

[IH]

In order.

Maybe

not at the moment

It was in the case specified, as she was comitting what she was suspicious of until the post in which stated.

unvote

Erm... AndrewS the point isn't about you missing the post. I think the wagon is on you not because you're inattentive, but because of possible misrepresentation.

I do not think AndrewS is scummy because of that, it's probably an innocent mistake. Reason being I'm a pretty active poster, he couldn't have tried to malign me since it was so easy for me to point it out.

It's the people on the AndrewS wagon who worry me.

vote: IH

(I'm giving BM some leeway here and I know it, but IH's an experienced player.)

= | Seriously, this goes right along with "I was doing it just to get reactions" which is scummy in my book, because anyone can go back and "justify" anything with these arguments.

[IH]

unvote,vote:Fircoal

For mischaracterizing Ripley. He never said he wanted a fast lynch, he said it would be the best lynch at this point.

[IH]

After thinking about it, I really feel that our best bet is IH. He is jumping opportunistically on a very small scum-tell and his actions previously have been rather scummy anyway. I sense that his vote on Ripley is an attempt to deflect attention away from his wagon. Therefore:

My vote was on fircoal.

= | Also, I misread number three, I didn't see that he thought that the day going on longer is bad.

unvote

Andrew, I've seriously not seen a case against me at all, except for lurking, and Jathan saying that he thinks I'm scum. Not a decent one anyways.

vote:TCS, FoS:Lowell

Show me lowell and TCS. Why do you think I'm scum.

I don't find Ripley to scummy at the moment. My main concern at the moment is the people pushing blindly at the moment.

[IH]

What was the point of the bolding again?

[IH]

I can get behind Lowell myself.

unvote, vote:lowell, IGMEOY:TCS

[IH]

Patrickmod

, could we have a quick votecount?

[IH]

Err, why am I scummy in

your

eyes TCS? I mean, yes you have found some flaws with Shadow Lurker's posts, which have been noted, but my question has yet to be answered.

[IH]

SL, I think you should revise your list to

Akbar/Lowell/TCS

[IH]

Damn speedlynchers = |

[IH]

Yeah Akbar, it's called a 1-2 mislynch. Duh. Town's in lylo after that I think, don't hold me to it.

[IH]

Lowell. Have you considered posting a thought out case other than "IH is scum lawl, listen to me, lawl, no one listens to me, lawl."

[IH]

To recap, I believe we are looking at 2 mafia members. 1 between IH and TCS. 1 between SV and SL. I believe SV and/or SL are attempting to derail the IH bandwagon to protect 1 of their own.

This is full of so many dilemmas it's not even funny.

[IH]

Lawl. I like how theres still a lack of a coherent case.

[IH]

Ok, so my top three most scummy are IH, SL, and Akbar, in that order.

IH because he lurks and has yet to post any content helpful to the game.

SL for pretty much the same reason, except throw in a couple of blatant evasions and unexplained FOS-ing, voting, and the like. Akbar for his borderline-WIFOM. I still have my suspicions about spectrumvoid, but that's more of a gut feeling than anything I can explain.

LAWL, have you even read the last few pages?

Not only that, but you have now entered the realm of lurker hunting. = )

[IH]

Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?

May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?

[IH]

Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?

May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?

Are we playing the question game?

Why aren't you, or your scumbuddy, lynched yet?

[IH]

unvote, vote:Akbar

I still see a lack of case against me, and it's clear that we're not going to reach TCS before deadline. Akbar is the only way to get him.

I'll claim in the next 24 hours.

[IH]

But, your vote wasn't even on TCS. It was on Lowell. My hunch is right isn't it?

If the mafia spin doctors succeed in making my suspicions of them into something suspicious, please look in to what I've posted. I'll continue following the thread to see if I helped any.

Because in light of the deadline there was others on Lowell, but they moved off.

I would like everyone on the IH wagon to explain WHY they are on it. If you do not, you should be under extreme scrutiny tomorrow.

[IH]

I'm Twito's scumbuddy of course.

Townie.

[IH]

If there wasn't a deadline, I would refuse to claim since there is no case for me at all. Just one big logical fallacy.

1.http://www.mafiascum.net/cgi-bin/wiki.p ... Repetition
2.http://www.mafiascum.net/cgi-bin/wiki.p ... om_Fallacy
I'm being lynched for a crapcase.

That is all.

[IH]

I blame Fircoal and TCS. I was lynched for crap reasons, and pretty much had a mindless wagon pushed on me and was lynched for deadline reasons.

[IH]

We were pretty close to killing SV too on n0

[IH]

Seriously, there was NO case for me on day 1, it was just townies wagoning with scum and not listening at all. I knew TCS was trying to get a counter wagon to happen and get him lynched, which was why I was pushing just as hard, but trying not to be as obvious.

I mean, even if he was bussing a scumbuddy, you NEVER get on a wagon as town unless you KNOW why you're on there, or you can at least come up with SOME kind of argument. My lynch resulted in mindless bandwagoning who had an untangible scum tell, even though TCS was way scummier.

if town would have actually been thinking we would have had more of a chance. A rare chance where town can coast along to a win without any logic at all....


If someone can find a case that was actually good and against me, I'd still love to see it = (

[IH]

Nice posts Ripley. They are informative and easy to follow. Your probably very manipulative when playing scum.

He's not = )

See open 6, you have to actually read them and not skim them, but they are full of them if you are hunting for scum.