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Hand Banana
This post strikes me as much too eager.that will get us nowhere.. time to build a pressure wagon..
how about this harry potter girl? i guess she will break faster than my grandma's back.
unvote;
vote: lunalovegood72107
Yagami
This is even worse, being that it’s only the 19th post in the game.I would rather pressureunvote vote: 007Flashfor not being here yet.
Samruc
In that case, why wouldn’t you unvote?Yeah, that might be a more proper way of handling it
Yagami
Blech. I dislike this post intensely.Since you were the last person, what took so long, and why Luna? I mean there are several people with no votes, and not really much reason to pressure her.
The answer to the first question is obvious. He wasn’t there on time. Even if he was lurking, you almost have to give him the benefit of the doubt simply because the game was still on the first page.
The answer to the second question: there was a random wagon. They don’t actually pressure people if they isn’t any pressure to start with.
Yagami
A player not having a vote is a good reason to vote said player?He was the last person to post, he jumps on the Luna bandwagon, says I'm here. Like you said though, Daxam, there's not much to go on yet, but I felt this could be a start, because he didn't have to jump on Luna's bandwagon, there are people with just one vote, and several people with no votes. As for my vote, it was as good as anything, and it was only the second vote, if his had been the second vote, I wouldn't have asked.
Samruc:
This post is terrible, for obvious reasons.The spelling mistake was mine, sorry FaerieLord
And I think Daxam is getting overprotective of himself... Hope he will be there to defend me too when I need it
FaerieLord
Why would you be suspicious of the player you think is most protown?Daxam, one tip, don't trust anyone. For example, in a game on another website, the player that seemed most Pro-town was mafia. So don't fool yourself by outside appearances. I might be mafia, Samruc (yes it was his spelling mistake :p) might be mafia, Yagami might be mafia...well you get my point?
Besides, both you and ZDS were on bateleur, mr tricksy. You can't hide from me!
Yagami
This from the person who voted 007 for wagonning.If we don't try pressuring someone, we'll never get anything. We need a little pressure to keep the conversation going, and to find the scum.
FaerieLord
No, no it doesn’t.Also, most people have only posted once in the game. If we just splurt all over the people in here, the pressure will be too scattered to do anything. So for now, I shall
Unvote, FOS: Everyone Lurking
Works so much better eh? :p
007
Wow, flash! Is that a great way of voting yagami for no particular reason when he is wagonning you!Is that so, Yagami?
unvote:vote:YagamiLight
luna
Please be useful.Well, I was just making a statement. I guess it makes more sense now. Flash is looking a little suspicious right now in, well, everything he does. He joins in and jumps on a bandwagon right away, then votes for Yagami for what seems like saying that he thought there were a lot of posts.
random-I like your signature, Daxam.
Side comment- Daxam seems like one of those newbies who post some of nothing to make it look like their useful, but do it as town rather than scum.
HC
Please be useful.Unvote: lunalovegood
Vote: hand banana.
Let's put someone else at L-4.
Otherwise, I don’t like this post.
HandBanana
1. He appears when someone else has just voted him.who? me?
i completely missed page 2.
unvote that random vote.
and vote: 007flash
this time around, it's not random, but it's not based on anything else than a hunch.
2. He uses an excuse another player has used.
3. He votes the most convenient vote on a hunch, adding nothing to the game.
Vote HandBanana.
FaerieLord
Why would you have fossed, then?I was talking about two bandwagons. FoSes don't actually do anything :/
As for hunches, none at the moment
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2. Yagami
3. FaerieLord
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ZDS fossed bateleur a number of times (not sure if he voted him, though, but I'm not going to check something so silly.)Saying ZDS was on Bate is kind of stupid...they were like a marreid couple in the game...heading in and out of bandwagons together.
Also, please answer this:
HAI <3Why would you be suspicious of the player you think is most protown?SEND THE VECTOIDS-
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heatherloo
Backing down too easily to still be keeping her vote.You're right hand banana- i haven't talked much myself. I'll try to be more active. I spend more time on a computer than anyone really should, I need to be more concientious about the fact that people have lives....
Wasn't trying to boss you around, just wanting to get a feel for how people type in here.
Samruc
Everybody clap for Samruc for such a great post.And what is the aim of the night?
I really have no comments other than this for page four. Nano’s vote looks maybe a slight bit opportunistic, but eh, it’s not worth it right now.
Haschel
His contributions are only slightly less useful than yours.Vote Samruc.I get the impression that he is deliberately posting without saying too much.
Banana
Why is that a weak scumtell?blah..vote: Haschel Cedricson
seems like he's trying to blame someone by exaggerating a very , very weak scumtell.
still kinda random, tho
How is that at all random?
HC
lololHowever, there's it's not necessarily about volume of posts. I value content and intent.
FaerieLord
Wut? Explain plz.Thanks nem
@Haschel. You can pretty much learn nothing from that. At this point I'm saying that I'd rather not pressure-vote anyone, but later on I may do it because it may seem more useful
FlashI quit, I'm to busy.
PS: I was a manson.Unvote vote Flash
handbanana
I’m almost entirely sure he claimed sk. I’m not going to say why I’m sure, but I have a good enough reason.that guy claimed mason.. it's both bad and good.
it's bad cause he outed a power role.
but it's good because i think we can trust this claim 100%. there was no reason for him to lie in that situation.
Regardless, let’s have him claim his mason buddy. I’m interested.
Bananaso.. to conclude.. : that guy only saved us some time and possibly prevented a power role mislynch. we're more than fine.
now we need to hunt some scum!
Can you do something to further that goal?
Yagami
No. No, no no. Scum do not lie andHand Banana, I think that claim is on the fringes of WIFOM, he had no reason to lie to us if he was town, but if he was scum, then he could have claimed anything so as not to make the game harder for his partners.
In other news, Heather, your last two posts were a vote on Hand Banana for not talking much, then saying that you admit that you need to be more active. Any reason keeping your vote on Hand Banana, I mean Haut Boy, Inarticulation, Lunalovegood, and you have posted less, plus, at the time there were better reasons to vote, such as Daxam putting someone at -2.
So, for now,vote Heatherlouclaim masonand then not get lynched. No.
And perhaps heather, say, found the daxam wagon disagreeable, as you had when you unvoted him? Would that make her scummy?
Yagami
Why does a person ever choose to vote one lurker over another? Because, despite both lurkers committing the same crime, one is also scummier than the other. But that doesn’t change the fact you voted one for lurking!Wait, you said you voted for Hand Banana for not posting enough, was there something you never mentioned?
HEHEHE. I just figured out that I replaced flash. Yes, I am a mason. My mason can name himself, but if he doesn’t, I’ll out him anyway. I knew flash wasn’t a mason because I was a “manson”, but I replaced flash anyway.
I demand HautBoy posts.
Unvote, Vote handbanana
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2. Yagami
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Please read the game.dude, you suck..
that was the guy you replaced.
so in effect, you claimed mason.
Umm, what?1. yeah, so what. there was nothing to say, so i did't say anything.. i thisnk that's better than this thing that you are doing.. generating content is one thing, but you are just making stuff up to accuse people.. that will not help the town at all. scum will just pick up on that and use to spread even more confusion.
This bit makes absolutely no sense. Somewhat accuses you of lurking. Right after, you make a post. That is scummy or a big coincidence. It has nothing to do with you not saying anything.
Saying you missed a page is an excuse. Do you know what "excuse" means?2. lol. i never used any excuse. i just said i missed a page. i never said why, nor did i try to excuse myself.
Here's what I see:3. if you say "most convenient" that means the guy somehow provoked a vote. he was weird all the time, but there was nothing i could pinpoint exactly. now i know what was it. he sucked.
Someone votes you an accuses you of lurking.
You post very soon after and vote the most voted player.
Convenient.
I missed the joke.are you kidding me???
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>.>I think we already discussed this. *cough*whosaiduseful*cough
I read posts in isolation. Kill me already.
I have heard this comment before, about my replacement analysis. I don't like focussing until after I can hear comments about my analysis from others.Everybody clap for Simenon for accusing/disregarding/prodding/voting the whole town at once. If you hadn't made that FoS-list I would have voted you for deliberately spreading chaos all over the place.
What does this comment have to do with the material you quoted?
I thought I already said this...Since this is essentially your own claim, that reason would be quite interesting...
When I read the claim, I knew I was a mason, so I knew that his claim was false. Yet, as I read, I realized that I was flash, and therefore, I was the mason that he claimed.SEND THE VECTOIDS-
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Right now you are trusting the assumption that I am a mason. I'm really just a vanilla townie claiming to have a mason partner right now. Why should you trust me?Samruc wrote:If we decide we trust you for now, that won't be needed, and we wouldn't need to split up the focus of a possible doc, right?
I have seen a scum that claimed mason, and then fumbled through the game not being able to claim a mason partner until he was eventually lynched.SEND THE VECTOIDS-
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Why flash, then? Why not Haschel, who just wagons without saying anything at all?YagamiLight wrote: Yeah, but he put her at -3 without saying anything, you aren't going to figure anything out if no one says anything.
Part of pressuring is that you don't influence what the players says under pressure.
Scum don't claim masons because if they claim their mason partner, and one of them dies, the other is certain to die with him. Therefore, it's the possibility of two scum deaths that keep scum from claiming mason.Okay, if there were no masons, then it could happen, because no one to counter claim, and the Town wont want to out the other masons so the scum know who they are.
ONLY WITHOUT CLAIMING A PARTNER. That's the important thing.Also, post 156, you admit you shouldn't be necessarily cleared, that you've seen scum try this.
I questioned it because she backed down to quickly on her own attack, not because of the argument itself.Thats true, I did originally vote for him for lurking, but then I kept it on based on his responses. If she has another reason for voting him, why doesn't she share it? You even question it, first thing in post 144.
I checked the role, but not the name. Bad habit.Haschel wrote:A quick question: did the mod not tell you who you were replacing, or did you intentionally not check before analyzing the game? If it's the latter, then that's an interesting tactic.
I still think handbanana is a good vote.FaerieLord wrote: LFR, this does not look good for you. I trust the fact that you can find out why yourself?
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Please, please read that in context.Becuase you shouldn't trust anyone, for obvious reasons.Maybe, oh, I don't know, he ACTUALLY missed a page. I don't see why that's so far-fetched.
But you see, luna, I'm not allowed to trust anyone, remember?
Or perhaps, he immediately missed a page, just as another player had, right after someone accused him of lurking. Of course it could be a coincidence. I'm saying it isn't.
What game was this?I've seen a game were an innocent and scum claimed mason together, because the innocent thought he wasn't scum and was trying to protect him.SEND THE VECTOIDS-
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I still hold that announcing possible claims in thread is almost always harmful to the town. My fish post was a first reaction.
Second, always ask for a partner claim when the first mason claims. So again, I don't regret it.
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Why isn't hand banana dead yet?nice going simenon.. thanks to you, not only do i have no trace of scum on page 8 (cause this thread is made of one tirade long (by you) after the other), but we now possibly have 2 masons exposed, and no one even questioned your claim.
don't get me wrong, but i really don't want to read your posts.. 2 simple reasons.
1-i know you're town, i instantly believed your predecessors' claim. i really want to get a read on other people that have unknown alignment to me, which i cannot do due to your playstyle..
2-and your scum hunting ability is really not very good (at least in my case).
so please, ask more questions than giving answers, and limit your conclusions a little (in space, not in essence).
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My rereads have started to become consistently IH-esque.IH wrote:I dislike the formatting though, it confuses me
I agree that this issue is overblown. It was just a first reaction to having a mason buddy fosed.LFR, I'll be ignorant while i replace and fos whoever I want. Whateva, whateva, I do what I want! [/cartman]
I like your suspicion-indicators on FaerieLord and I can't say I'm thrilled with his reply.
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IH wasn't particularly town-like. He hammered Daxam the post after he claimed, which could be interpreted as extremely opportunistic. He also didn't make particularly definitive statments. There were two confirmed townies the mafia could have taken aim at, one of whom was the second most experienced player in the game.
IH mostly went after Faeren, FaerieLord, and Yagami. Looking back, especially at all the crappy FaerieLord posts towards the end of the day, I think:
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Yagami, please don't answer for other people.
I think it's pretty much obvious I'm confirmed town right now. Casting doubt on that when you could be bussing your scumbuddy is a waste of time.
To your point about the doctor protection, it's silly. There are two masons, not one, so therefore the risk of killing a protected mason is fairly small.SEND THE VECTOIDS-
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With a doctor and two masons, making a wifom kill simply isn't practical. Besides, if they wanted to kill someone to implicate another, they could have killed me, who attacked the doctor and yagami yesterday.FaerieLord wrote: You know that is wifom all over. Did it ever occur to you that scum might do that so people think that way?
Oh well, too bad. I guess I should just continue voting you until you do :[And as I said about the "crappy posts", I only answered which I could read in that post. Its not as if I'm going to go scouring threads just to protect myself from a point he brought up.
It's not only the refusal to answer in those posts that irk me, it's the lack of content otherwise. I get the impression you've been lounging around this game, safe as nobody can take issue with some of noncommittal positions you have taken.SEND THE VECTOIDS-
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Sure- so do I.FaerieLord wrote:@Colin. As a mafia I'd pretty much Wifom the game. The town had nothing except confirmed townies, so confusing them using wifom is a pretty good move.
Also, as a doctor I'd either protect a mason or a high profile player. FLoC decided to protect a mason instead :/
That being said, I will kill a threat whenever I'm able to hide it. IH hammered Daxam and attacked a few people. There's no real reason to risk another attack.
Right now, I'm going through what made sense to me then and pursuing it.
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A heatherlou wagon wouldn't produce much- I'm using my gut on that. Haschel and Nano have both expressed strong opinions.FaerieLord wrote:Also, there are at least 3 people that are posting less content than I am, so why aren't you voting them?
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Haschel
#1 (post 8)- Random votes daxam
#2 (post 17)- Unvotes and votes lunalovegod
#3 (post 39)- Says random voting is useless. Think that flash's bandwagon vote on luna is scummy. And yet
#4 (post 64)- He puts a third vote on handbanana, with only the comment of "let's put someone else at -4".
#5 (post 75)- I'm having trouble taking HC's views on wagoning and switching votes, as well as his three previous posts, along with Post 39. This is, by the way, his first post without a bolded suspicion indicator.
#6 and #7 (posts 103-104)- Unvotes handbanana and votes Samruc. He gets the impression that he's deliberately posting without saying too much.
#8 (post 107)- Defends his playstyle and his lurking. Says that he is poking and prodding around for reactions. Continues that Samruc is posting without saying too much.
#9 (post 111)- Responds to Samruc's self pbp with "fair enough". Doesn't unvote (strangely). Comments on how he's learning about the value of pressure wagons. I think that makes post 39 even more interesting.
#10 (post 120)- Thinks flash's manson claim means he's clearly a serial killer.
#11 (post 122)- Joke.
-------Post 141--------- Simenon arrives. I dislike Haschel's apparent uselessness.
#12 (post 160)- Asks if the mod did not tell me if I was replacing. Believes mason claim, says I'm not the play today.
#13 (post 162)- Asks Faerielord what “LFR” means (it means me).
#14 (post 184)- Defends Samruc. Doesn’t think it’s scummy when a player asks for clarification. Unvotes and votes Adam, says he still believes the mason claim, but if Adam isn’t my mason partner, he’ll have to vote him.
#15 (post 187)- Unvotes due to mason claim.
#16 (post 190)- Explains my argument to FaerieLord
#17 (post 195)- Continues to explain my argument to FaerieLord. Makes his inactivity known.
#18 (post 210) Votes lunalovegod. Says that she has been very noncommittal this game.
#19 (post 267)- Apologizes for his lack of activity, and is rereading.
#20 (post 269)- Says he doesn’t like the replacements, criticizes IH’s fos and floc’s apparent distancing. Also says that he thinks players who vote Adam or Simenon are scummy. Promises another post.
#21 (post 296)- Is not on the FLOC wagon as he likes his luna vote and doesn’t want to vote a replacement, yet is watching FLOC closely.
#22 (post 319)- Votes FLOC.
#23 (329)- Tells FLOC that if he wants to wagon him, then do it.
#24 (post 347)- Unvotes due to cop claim.
#25 (post post 349)- Is wary of the Daxam wagon. Questions whether he’s a good alternative or we’re just doing it to get a lynch before deadline. Doesn’t like how Nano hasn’t posted any opinions, and votes him.
Day Two
#25 (post 420)- He’s on dial up, for which he apologizes for, and promises to vote soon.
Summary: Town. A bit of a lurker, and a bit inconsistent, but I find posts 8 and 9 genuine. Post 14 is a very ballsy move from a scum. Post 25 is scummy, as it switches his vote quickly around the deadline. I would love more content from HC, especially since this is the second day, but I’m putting him on my town list.
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#1 (Post 4)- Random vote
#2 (Post 9)- Helps a player out with his bold tags
#3 (Post 48)- Unvotes and votes Haut Boy for only posting once in the entire thread (lol).
#4 (Post 54)- Says there is a contradiction in FaerieLord’s posting.
#5 (Post 80)- Posts only these words: “Except, of course, if you’re not scum).
#6 (post 88)- Explains, using numbers (perhaps sarcastically), that lynching townies is a bad idea. No more content in this post.
#7 (post 99)- Unvotes and votes Daxam “for the sake of discussion”, to which he does not contribute.
#8 (post 118)- Says these words about flash’s claim: “Alrighty then…”. Nothing else is in the post.
#9 (post 211)- Is really confused. Asks to where the mason claim took place, despite quoting it in post 118.
#10 (post 216)- Posts a picture of Captain Obvious to FaerieLord’s post.
#11 (post 271)- Another “Alrighty then…” post, this time to scum101’s turban thingie.
#12 (post 306)- Just the word “Here”, nothing else.
#13 (post 383)- Says he’s here and “doesn’t know who to pressure.
Conclusion: Likely scum. One of our worst lurkers. It’s not so much the lurking of his posts, but the fact that so many aren’t serious, and so many have no content whatsoever. None have more than three or so lines of content, despite repeated requests. So basically, Nano ignores all requests for content despite still being able to say that he’s here every 50 posts or so.
Nano is probably #3 on the list right now.SEND THE VECTOIDS-
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