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Lies!In post 20, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:This is a post.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I remember you, do you remember me?In post 22, karnos wrote:VOTE: shannon
This vote doesn't count yet, consider this a note to self on who is obviously scum.
<<< I remember you,
You remember me,
We're one big fucked up family~ >>>Last edited by mastina on Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:20 am, edited 1 time in total.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Points for sig.In post 25, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Ego post so I can watch Mastinas gameI was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 45, mastina wrote:<<< While I'll count a vote if I know who it's for, I don't recognize who you're referring to here, so I can't count this vote. >>>
I thought Espionage was in this game for some reason.
VOTE: AlisaeI was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Dang straight, now get in line.In post 47, Alisae wrote:LQ IS A BULLY ;~;I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I'm here to winIn post 49, Alisae wrote:I rather cry instead.
And at least I'm happy that I'm enjoyable to play with.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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LQ was NKed night one... DAMMIT!!!In post 52, PranaDevil wrote:LQ definite town due to not paying enough attention to who's in the game to even direct a vote correctly? Sounds like a plan to me.
vote: Alisaefor reasons. (Hint, they aren't good reasons)I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 55, Alisae wrote:
I'm being bullied and I would like to know the reasons ;~;In post 52, PranaDevil wrote:LQ definite town due to not paying enough attention to who's in the game to even direct a vote correctly? Sounds like a plan to me.
vote: Alisaefor reasons. (Hint, they aren't good reasons)
This would be the reason.
bring it and play or die!I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Well, if that is what you want, fine.In post 57, Alisae wrote:Why can't I bring it, play it, AND die at the same time?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Just play the game. Nothing else matters.In post 59, Alisae wrote:Well I want to play video games, watch animu, be a Loki, and eat ice cream at the same time as well.
Can I do that?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Don't be horrible at the game though, thanks.In post 63, Alisae wrote:Also I'm even more convinced that Nydrusher is actually scum btw.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 70, shannon wrote:In post 55, Alisae wrote:
I'm being bullied and I would like to know the reasons ;~;In post 52, PranaDevil wrote:LQ definite town due to not paying enough attention to who's in the game to even direct a vote correctly? Sounds like a plan to me.
vote: Alisaefor reasons. (Hint, they aren't good reasons)
@Alisae what are the reasons?This is actually Scummy I think. There use to be a tell out there that Scum misspell stuff or don't say stuff correctly. I also find it Scummy that they are asking for reasons. Should be clear it is RVS and I don't buy that its an attempt to push the game forward so either they are not very good Town or obvious Scum.
VOTE: shannonI was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Obvious Scum as in doing obviously Scummy things as Scum, not that they are obviously Scum. Err... yeah.In post 80, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 70, shannon wrote:In post 55, Alisae wrote:
I'm being bullied and I would like to know the reasons ;~;In post 52, PranaDevil wrote:LQ definite town due to not paying enough attention to who's in the game to even direct a vote correctly? Sounds like a plan to me.
vote: Alisaefor reasons. (Hint, they aren't good reasons)
@Alisae what are the reasons?This is actually Scummy I think. There use to be a tell out there that Scum misspell stuff or don't say stuff correctly. I also find it Scummy that they are asking for reasons. Should be clear it is RVS and I don't buy that its an attempt to push the game forward so either they are not very good Town or obvious Scum.
VOTE: shannonI was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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1) Its not a solid tellIn post 82, Alisae wrote:
So you're town because I don't think scum would put themselves in a situation where their own scumtells are used against them?In post 81, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Obvious Scum as in doing obviously Scummy things as Scum, not that they are obviously Scum. Err... yeah.In post 80, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 70, shannon wrote:In post 55, Alisae wrote:
I'm being bullied and I would like to know the reasons ;~;In post 52, PranaDevil wrote:LQ definite town due to not paying enough attention to who's in the game to even direct a vote correctly? Sounds like a plan to me.
vote: Alisaefor reasons. (Hint, they aren't good reasons)
@Alisae what are the reasons?This is actually Scummy I think. There use to be a tell out there that Scum misspell stuff or don't say stuff correctly. I also find it Scummy that they are asking for reasons. Should be clear it is RVS and I don't buy that its an attempt to push the game forward so either they are not very good Town or obvious Scum.
VOTE: shannon
2) I was clarifying something because I realize it could've been taken the wrong way. Had nothing to do with me saying the wrong thing.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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1) That isn't all you did though.In post 84, Alisae wrote:I asked for reasons knowing not to take them seriously as well. Does that make me scum?
How do you know they were going to take the reasons seriously?
And why can't they ask for reasons if they are town?
What makes you think they are attempting to push the game forward.
How do you know you aren't taking their post the wrong way?
2) Can you tell me they were not going to? Why would you think that? I see more reason to believe they would than they wouldn't; its the simplest explanation, Occam's Razor.
3) They can, but tbh it looks like a really weird place to ask that. Again, that is all shannon has done. Its a really simple question to ask. The trick is finding out if it is out of place or not and I think it is.
4) I think its a fake way tolooklike you are trying to push the game forward.
5) I could be. Its not a solid read at all. It is, however, an actual starting point out of RVS.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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1) Which is why I said it was an old tell.In post 86, XnadrojX wrote:
1. That's a bullshit scumtell.In post 80, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 70, shannon wrote:In post 55, Alisae wrote:
I'm being bullied and I would like to know the reasons ;~;In post 52, PranaDevil wrote:LQ definite town due to not paying enough attention to who's in the game to even direct a vote correctly? Sounds like a plan to me.
vote: Alisaefor reasons. (Hint, they aren't good reasons)
@Alisae what are the reasons?This is actually Scummy I think. There use to be a tell out there that Scum misspell stuff or don't say stuff correctly. I also find it Scummy that they are asking for reasons. Should be clear it is RVS and I don't buy that its an attempt to push the game forward so either they are not very good Town or obvious Scum.
VOTE: shannon
2. Its protown to ask for reasons, would you like it if I voted you right now and called you scummy for asking me why?
3. If it's clear it's RVS to you then you should know that everything is said in a jovial manner until something happens.
4. I don't think you know what obvious scum means.
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2) Again, you don't find that question out of place at all? Its not that its Pro-Town or Anti-Town here. Its whether the post looks like it fits with what else is going on itt.
3) Do you really think that asking for reasons without any indication that you are not serious or are jovial that it is correct to assume such?
4) LOL. OK.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Well, I'm not Scum, so there is that..In post 104, karnos wrote:If LQ is scum, you are the partner jumping to derail the lynch.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I agree. Alisae is just being aggressive there is really no substance there. Unfortunately people follow people like them.In post 134, Lexa wrote:
I see you're taking lessons in the 'annoy people until they give you what they want' school of scumhunting ehIn post 133, Alisae wrote:Yep. Piccolo taught you how to dodge pretty well Gohan.
There's a condition to my responding in full that has yet to be fulfilled that I expect to be soon. Simple as that.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Blah, blah, I'm a horrible player who plays bad.In post 172, XnadrojX wrote:Spoiler: everything I mentioned LQ in
As you can see, my posts mostly indicated how he played badly, over he played scummily.
Karnos in the other hand, I expressed a clear scumread on him, "Most Bullshit defence", "warrants a lynch", "rather push a karnos wagon" was what I said. Here, his play looked opportunistic, hence scummy, while LQ play is simply bad.
At the current moment, karnos not possibly being scumpartners with LQ leads to more reason not to scumread him, as I scumread karnos at the current moment. I'm remaining null instead of a townread, as this still has the small chance of being staged, e.g. LQ puts out the BS case for Karnos to vote and try to start a wagon for town red(I've seen it happen).
I would advise lynching karnos over LQ for above reasons.
Now with all the possible questions I can think of fended off, I am going to move on to other topics.
I TR Alisae for similar reasons to why he is universally TRed, however i would however prefer his vote to be in karnos.
Garmr and Shannon are Town for now, creating active discussion. If Shannon or Garmr was scum, I don't think scum wants to put in the extra effort of creating discussion points and noticing things that probably won't get lynched. However, this is one of the less solid tells, hence the For Now.
Again, everyone voting LQ I suggest swapping to karnos, thanks.
Bro, why don't you check out my wiki. I prolly have more wins than you have games played.In post 88, LicketyQuickety wrote:5) I could be. Its not a solid read at all. It is, however, an actual starting point out of RVS.
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I agree. They are playing like newb Town. On that much I agree.In post 177, XnadrojX wrote:
He isn't "just" being g aggresive. He's picking up on and pushing things that scum normally dont bother with.In post 176, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I agree. Alisae is just being aggressive there is really no substance there. Unfortunately people follow people like them.In post 134, Lexa wrote:
I see you're taking lessons in the 'annoy people until they give you what they want' school of scumhunting ehIn post 133, Alisae wrote:Yep. Piccolo taught you how to dodge pretty well Gohan.
There's a condition to my responding in full that has yet to be fulfilled that I expect to be soon. Simple as that.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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My point what that if people follow them all game Town is prolly not going to do so well.In post 179, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I agree. They are playing like newb Town. On that much I agree.In post 177, XnadrojX wrote:
He isn't "just" being g aggresive. He's picking up on and pushing things that scum normally dont bother with.In post 176, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I agree. Alisae is just being aggressive there is really no substance there. Unfortunately people follow people like them.In post 134, Lexa wrote:
I see you're taking lessons in the 'annoy people until they give you what they want' school of scumhunting ehIn post 133, Alisae wrote:Yep. Piccolo taught you how to dodge pretty well Gohan.
There's a condition to my responding in full that has yet to be fulfilled that I expect to be soon. Simple as that.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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LOL. Am I the only one who finds it funny that I've been here way longer than them and they have a higher post rank than me?In post 164, Pepchoninga wrote:Btw congrats on being a JOAT.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I haven't done a damn thing that is AI at this point.In post 174, shannon wrote:
No argument here, I think LQ is townish.In post 173, XnadrojX wrote:If anyone can produce a good counter argument to why karnos is town and LQ scum please present it.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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@Mod, LOL I was just about to say that Karnos is a null read because the game I played with them in I Scum read them hard core and they were Town and I was too.In post 23, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I remember you, do you remember me?In post 22, karnos wrote:VOTE: shannon
This vote doesn't count yet, consider this a note to self on who is obviously scum.
<<< I remember you,
You remember me,
We're one big fucked up family~ >>>I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Just pointing out the obvious here.
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This guy has played on a different site as well.
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In post 140, Alisae wrote:Holy shit Garmr is town. I don't see any scum motivation on the post above me. And I just don't think scum would go out of their way to do that.
Good to know you are town Garmr.
Also shannon might be town for picking that up.
Alisae, can you see the angle where GarmrIn post 139, Garmr wrote:
Probably a little bit of natural style and something else(not scum or early game awkwardness.).In post 138, shannon wrote:
The phrasing here seems quite stilted and unnatural. Not sure whether it's natural style, early game awkwardness, or scumminess.In post 117, Garmr wrote:
Lol oh k Still kinda don't get it through.In post 114, Alisae wrote:You said you were his partner trying to derail the wagon hehe
don't mind me just a joke.
I would like to hear more of your opinions through because you sheep a lot of noticed. Sheeping isn't bad as town since there are times town need to sheep. But it's always good to have some independent thought. It helps me in a variety of ways if all the players are actively posting with their own thoughts. Since I thrive in those scenarios.What do you think about XnadrojX/karnos/liquity/ through?
I was a little conscious of that post through I'm kinda amazed you picked up on that. I rewrote that one like 3-4 times before I was satisfied with it. Originally it was going to be "what did you think of my case on karnos?" Instead of the highlighted section. But then it occurred to me that alisae is a player that will sheep their town reads. I didn't want to contaminate alisae's answer with my own thoughts. I wanted to see what type of answer alisae would produce and if I could get anything information on his alignment out of it.knowsyou are Town?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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You saw me as Scum in one game. How does this game compare to you?In post 192, Alisae wrote:hmm...maaaaaaybe but if you are saying he slipped I doubt that's the case. It would be kinda a shitty slip to push anyways.
They could just know my behavoirs. No?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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How did you know I was Scum than?
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So what is your read on me currently?In post 197, Alisae wrote:I skimmed the last 10 pages, saw some good shit, and voted you.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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K, why?In post 199, Alisae wrote:Your scum.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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How can you make a post on a forum if you are playing video games?
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That's 2 posts you have made without answering my question.In post 205, Alisae wrote:I played in window borderless LQ....I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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No shit. I did it to get out of RVS, did you catch that part?In post 207, Alisae wrote:Well I'm done now so I can respond.
Your case on Shannon was reachy as fuck.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I don't think Jordan has really done anything AI so I don't get why he is getting all these votes tbh.In post 210, Alisae wrote:okay I ISO dived and by dived I mean skimmed.
I'm probably conf biasing you cuz now you're asking good questions that are meant to progress the game or atleast advance it so you're probs town.
Jordan seems strange in that he was attacking LQ's shitty logic but he thinks he's town?
That seems strange to me.
So I'm voting there now
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I like my vote currently. I wanted to see if more people would vote Alisae if I pressure them. As I was pressuring them I was getting some clear Town tells that I use that make sense reasonable. Nothing solid on its own, but it all adds up.In post 216, shannon wrote:
So hang on: You were the one who originally brought up Lickety's reachy case on me. Jordan continued on with that case. Now you're town reading Lickety, but you're voting Jordan for doing the same thing you did? Not coolIn post 210, Alisae wrote:okay I ISO dived and by dived I mean skimmed.
I'm probably conf biasing you cuz now you're asking good questions that are meant to progress the game or atleast advance it so you're probs town.
Jordan seems strange in that he was attacking LQ's shitty logic but he thinks he's town?
That seems strange to me.
So I'm voting there now
VOTE: Jordan
VOTE: Alisae
So naturally I find shannon really opportunistic here.
TL;DR: I didn't say I had a Town read on Alisae after getting done tunneling on her because I wanted to see if anyone would use that to Scum read her.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Then you are really going to hate the way I get reads.In post 221, XnadrojX wrote:In post 218, Alisae wrote:I'm TRing Lickety cuz he's asking good questions that progress the game and I've been always SRing Jordan so I hopped there.
You sure scum would accuse someone of doing the exact same thing that they just did? That doesn't make sense to me.
pedit: Good shit LQ.I don't like cases of "scum would/wouldn't do this"
Anything can be shaken off like that.
I do this by constantly matching up whether its more likely to come from Scum or Town. I do this by getting a picture of who that person is and use that to read if they would likely say that as Town or Scum.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 225, shannon wrote:
Seriously though, it is kinda annoying.In post 213, Alisae wrote:OH NO! I MADE 2 POSTS THAT PAD OUT THE THREAD! WHAT WILL I EVER DO?!?!?!?
You're making a big deal out of nothing.
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I don't like cases of "scum would/wouldn't do this"In post 218, Alisae wrote:I'm TRing Lickety cuz he's asking good questions that progress the game and I've been always SRing Jordan so I hopped there.
You sure scum would accuse someone of doing the exact same thing that they just did? That doesn't make sense to me.
pedit: Good shit LQ.
Anything can be shaken off like that.
I consider this a conflict of character. You read me based off vibe AFAIK and not based on deduction so either you don't understand what Jordan is saying or you are making quite the contradiction.In post 174, shannon wrote:
No argument here, I think LQ is townish.In post 173, XnadrojX wrote:If anyone can produce a good counter argument to why karnos is town and LQ scum please present it.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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You don't have to Vote Alisae for the same reasons as I introduced, you just have to see and opening to vote and take advantage of that for my reaction test to be valid.In post 228, shannon wrote:PEdit: I misread Jordan, specifically the bit 'a counter argument to why'. I don't have any particular read on Karnos but I town read you Lickety.
In post 217, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I like my vote currently. I wanted to see if more people would vote Alisae if I pressure them. As I was pressuring them I was getting some clear Town tells that I use that make sense reasonable. Nothing solid on its own, but it all adds up.In post 216, shannon wrote:
So hang on: You were the one who originally brought up Lickety's reachy case on me. Jordan continued on with that case. Now you're town reading Lickety, but you're voting Jordan for doing the same thing you did? Not coolIn post 210, Alisae wrote:okay I ISO dived and by dived I mean skimmed.
I'm probably conf biasing you cuz now you're asking good questions that are meant to progress the game or atleast advance it so you're probs town.
Jordan seems strange in that he was attacking LQ's shitty logic but he thinks he's town?
That seems strange to me.
So I'm voting there now
VOTE: Jordan
VOTE: Alisae
So naturally I find shannon really opportunistic here.
TL;DR: I didn't say I had a Town read on Alisae after getting done tunneling on her because I wanted to see if anyone would use that to Scum read her.
I am trying to make sense of the part I bolded. Can you tell me whether this is correct:
1) You tunnelled Alisae as a kind of reaction test
2) You actually town read her
3) You wanted to see whether your pretend scum read on her would cause anyone else to scum read her
If that *is* what you're saying, then I don't get how you connected my vote on her back to your read of her. I am not making any reference to your read on Alisae, I'm calling her a hypocrite for her behaviour.
Lickety, you made a reachy case on me which you later referred to as 'getting out of RVS'. Alisae called you out and cased you for it. Jordan went further with calling you out and casing you.
Alisae has now changed her mind and town reads you, which is fine. But she votes Jordan for the case he made on you, which is hypocrisy, because she was making a similar case. And that's why I'm voting Alisae.
I could just say Alisae has a Scummy meta and so that is why I felt leaving room for someone to take advantage of the fact I was pressuring her was a valid test.
Also, Expect Scum to reply in the same way you did. I was thinking about the counter argument you could have made that would have been better, but I find it Scummy that you didn't use that one and decided to base your argument based on facts instead of sentiment. It is my opinion that Town generally bases more of their arguments on sentiment than facts, at least in my experience. True people can use either or as both alignments but when one is neglected over the other is when it becomes clearer what that persons motivation is.
My process of reading you is getting more developed as time goes by.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Sometimes. I don't have a lot of time before I go to bed. That is the reason.In post 230, Alisae wrote:LQ I know what you were trying to do.
Wouldn't it be more effective to try to see who has responded to it and who hasn't before you try to draw analysis off of it?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 229, LicketyQuickety wrote:My process of reading you is getting more developed as time goes by.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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1) I'm not talking about you giving your reasons for voting Alisae, I am talking about you giving your counter argument to what I said.In post 232, shannon wrote:@Lickety -
What opening though? My vote on her has nothing to do with you pressuring her.
I have to point out how terrible your logic is in this part:
Also, Expect Scum to reply in the same way you did. I was thinking about the counter argument you could have made that would have been better, but I find it Scummy that you didn't use that one and decided to base your argument based on facts instead of sentiment.It is my opinion that Town generally bases more of their arguments on sentiment than facts, at least in my experience. True people can use either or as both alignments butwhen one is neglected over the other is when it becomes clearer what that persons motivation is.
This is just plain bad, for so many reasons:
1) I had no need to think of the Best Possible Counterargument because I'm only giving my *actual* counterargument, which is to state my actual reasons for voting Alisae.
2) Why is it scummy to avoid Appeal to Emotion? Especially when there's no emotion involved? I've played multiple games where people have made exactly the opposite claim to you; that acting emotionally is scummy because there are no good reasons to fall back on
3) It seems you know I'm telling the truth, and yet you think I should have told an emotional lie because it would have been more convincing. That is very weird to me.
Also, is there a plan for you to do anything other than 'reaction test' and then claim that whoever reacts is doing what you'd expect scum to do? That schtick is getting old, and it's less convincing each time you claim it.
2) I am not talking about giving an argument based on AtE. I am talking about arguing a point that is emotionally invested in the argument.
3) This is empty shade. You are saying I am doing something that I am not. I don't read people based on "facts" and "most compelling argument" I read people based on character. My read had nothing to do with the fact that you gave a truthful argument, after all that can be faked.
4) You say I am Scummy and say I am doing things that are "very weird to you" why no voted?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Why should you like me? IDK.In post 267, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:LQ, why should I like you?
I understand full well I don't play like most people (its even in my sig).
I just ask you reserve judgement until you see what my weird way of playing leads to. I am actually not bad at this game. I just play differently and because of this it gets me Scum read sometimes.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I have you as Null. I was just seeing if Alisae could see that angle. If you have never seen that argument before, you are living under a rock.In post 268, Garmr wrote:In post 266, LicketyQuickety wrote:
1) I'm not talking about you giving your reasons for voting Alisae, I am talking about you giving your counter argument to what I said.In post 232, shannon wrote:@Lickety -
What opening though? My vote on her has nothing to do with you pressuring her.
I have to point out how terrible your logic is in this part:
Also, Expect Scum to reply in the same way you did. I was thinking about the counter argument you could have made that would have been better, but I find it Scummy that you didn't use that one and decided to base your argument based on facts instead of sentiment.It is my opinion that Town generally bases more of their arguments on sentiment than facts, at least in my experience. True people can use either or as both alignments butwhen one is neglected over the other is when it becomes clearer what that persons motivation is.
This is just plain bad, for so many reasons:
1) I had no need to think of the Best Possible Counterargument because I'm only giving my *actual* counterargument, which is to state my actual reasons for voting Alisae.
2) Why is it scummy to avoid Appeal to Emotion? Especially when there's no emotion involved? I've played multiple games where people have made exactly the opposite claim to you; that acting emotionally is scummy because there are no good reasons to fall back on
3) It seems you know I'm telling the truth, and yet you think I should have told an emotional lie because it would have been more convincing. That is very weird to me.
Also, is there a plan for you to do anything other than 'reaction test' and then claim that whoever reacts is doing what you'd expect scum to do? That schtick is getting old, and it's less convincing each time you claim it.
2) I am not talking about giving an argument based on AtE. I am talking about arguing a point that is emotionally invested in the argument.
3) This is empty shade. You are saying I am doing something that I am not. I don't read people based on "facts" and "most compelling argument" I read people based on character. My read had nothing to do with the fact that you gave a truthful argument, after all that can be faked.
4) You say I am Scummy and say I am doing things that are "very weird to you" why no voted?Talking about throwing empty shade and not following up on it.
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What is actually wrong with what I said? You haven't actually addressed the fact that your post CAN be taken as you knowing Alisae is Town. Why no argument there and just saying it is throwing shade?In post 307, Garmr wrote:Throwing shade Lq
It means to make someone look bad with out committing to it.
Like you literally just did the mafia scum dictionary definition of throwing shade. You say you have me as a null read but you went out your way to say "have you thought of him knowing your town" Which in my mind doesn't even make sense. Because if I was a null read why are you worried about alisae view on me. Even then my answer was about trying to get a better read on alisae by not contaminating his thoughts. Also the same argument you made can be applied with
I could easily make bull shit up saying you only said this because your scum and you know alisae is town and you want to stop the garmr town read because you're afraid of me. But I won't because using he knows cases are bad.
Talking about shade throwing. This makes alisae look bad and seems like your throwing it for the heck of it.In post 176, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 134, Lexa wrote:
I see you're taking lessons in the 'annoy people until they give you what they want' school of scumhunting ehIn post 133, Alisae wrote:Yep. Piccolo taught you how to dodge pretty well Gohan.
There's a condition to my responding in full that has yet to be fulfilled that I expect to be soon. Simple as that.I agree. Alisae is just being aggressive there is really no substance there. Unfortunately people follow people like them.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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And when you say I'm not committing? Please, the game days are 3 weeks long and you are giving me shit about not committing to a read balls deep after like 72 hours.In post 318, LicketyQuickety wrote:
What is actually wrong with what I said? You haven't actually addressed the fact that your post CAN be taken as you knowing Alisae is Town. Why no argument there and just saying it is throwing shade?In post 307, Garmr wrote:Throwing shade Lq
It means to make someone look bad with out committing to it.
Like you literally just did the mafia scum dictionary definition of throwing shade. You say you have me as a null read but you went out your way to say "have you thought of him knowing your town" Which in my mind doesn't even make sense. Because if I was a null read why are you worried about alisae view on me. Even then my answer was about trying to get a better read on alisae by not contaminating his thoughts. Also the same argument you made can be applied with
I could easily make bull shit up saying you only said this because your scum and you know alisae is town and you want to stop the garmr town read because you're afraid of me. But I won't because using he knows cases are bad.
Talking about shade throwing. This makes alisae look bad and seems like your throwing it for the heck of it.In post 176, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 134, Lexa wrote:
I see you're taking lessons in the 'annoy people until they give you what they want' school of scumhunting ehIn post 133, Alisae wrote:Yep. Piccolo taught you how to dodge pretty well Gohan.
There's a condition to my responding in full that has yet to be fulfilled that I expect to be soon. Simple as that.I agree. Alisae is just being aggressive there is really no substance there. Unfortunately people follow people like them.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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And I have no problems with Prana's case on me except one thing. I said now twice now my read on Shannon is ongoing. Its still fucking early and some people are going to take more time to read than others. Lexa not providing shit and then going on V/LA until Tuesday is an example of that. But besides that, because people have different styles that means that some people are going to be easier to read than others.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 322, Garmr wrote:
How can it be taken that way? You haven't actually provided a case on how it could becuase I honestly don't see how it could be.In post 318, LicketyQuickety wrote:
What is actually wrong with what I said? You haven't actually addressed the fact that your post CAN be taken as you knowing Alisae is Town. Why no argument there and just saying it is throwing shade?In post 307, Garmr wrote:Throwing shade Lq
It means to make someone look bad with out committing to it.
Like you literally just did the mafia scum dictionary definition of throwing shade. You say you have me as a null read but you went out your way to say "have you thought of him knowing your town" Which in my mind doesn't even make sense. Because if I was a null read why are you worried about alisae view on me. Even then my answer was about trying to get a better read on alisae by not contaminating his thoughts. Also the same argument you made can be applied with
I could easily make bull shit up saying you only said this because your scum and you know alisae is town and you want to stop the garmr town read because you're afraid of me. But I won't because using he knows cases are bad.
Talking about shade throwing. This makes alisae look bad and seems like your throwing it for the heck of it.In post 176, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 134, Lexa wrote:
I see you're taking lessons in the 'annoy people until they give you what they want' school of scumhunting ehIn post 133, Alisae wrote:Yep. Piccolo taught you how to dodge pretty well Gohan.
There's a condition to my responding in full that has yet to be fulfilled that I expect to be soon. Simple as that.I agree. Alisae is just being aggressive there is really no substance there. Unfortunately people follow people like them.
In post 139, Garmr wrote:
Probably a little bit of natural style and something else(not scum or early game awkwardness.).In post 138, shannon wrote:
The phrasing here seems quite stilted and unnatural. Not sure whether it's natural style, early game awkwardness, or scumminess.In post 117, Garmr wrote:
Lol oh k Still kinda don't get it through.In post 114, Alisae wrote:You said you were his partner trying to derail the wagon hehe
don't mind me just a joke.
I would like to hear more of your opinions through because you sheep a lot of noticed. Sheeping isn't bad as town since there are times town need to sheep. But it's always good to have some independent thought. It helps me in a variety of ways if all the players are actively posting with their own thoughts. Since I thrive in those scenarios.What do you think about XnadrojX/karnos/liquity/ through?
I was a little conscious of that post through I'm kinda amazed you picked up on that. I rewrote that one like 3-4 times before I was satisfied with it. Originally it was going to be "what did you think of my case on karnos?" Instead of the highlighted section.But then it occurred to me that alisae is a player that will sheep their town reads.I didn't want to contaminate alisae's answer with my own thoughts. I wanted to see what type of answer alisae would produce and if I could get anything information on his alignment out of it.In post 117, Garmr wrote:
Lol oh k Still kinda don't get it through.In post 114, Alisae wrote:You said you were his partner trying to derail the wagon hehe
don't mind me just a joke.
What do you think about XnadrojX/karnos/liquity/ through? I would like to hear more of your opinions through because you sheep a lot of noticed. Sheeping isn't bad as town since there are times town need to sheep. But it's always good to have some independent thought. It helps me in a variety of ways if all the players are actively posting with their own thoughts. Since I thrive in those scenarios.
In these three posts we see you mentioning Alisae and how they are sheeping. You mention how as Town sheeping isn't necessarily a bad thing. You then go on to say that you think it would be better if Alisae improves as a player instead of PLing them every game based on their sheeping as Town. I really find it unlikely that you are somehow saying that Alisae sheeps as a playstyle and not just as Town.In post 119, Garmr wrote:I'd rather have Alisae improve as a player than policy lynch him every game.
What can be deduced is that A) You don't say a single thing about how she could do that as Scum. And B) Based on her Town play sheeping you infer she is Town.
She has not had a single completed game as Scum.
Sure it could be amature Scum play. It could also be good Town play in a style you are not used to. Look through this game to get a picture of how I play as Town sometimes: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69627In post 322, Garmr wrote:
Please spare me the bull shit. You literally tried to make me and alisae look bad and didn't follow up with a scum read or an investigation into it. That's amateur scum play.In post 320, LicketyQuickety wrote: And when you say I'm not committing? Please, the game days are 3 weeks long and you are giving me shit about not committing to a read balls deep after like 72 hours.
Also what's your motivation as town to muddy up other players who are being town read??????I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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What's your read on me currently? I haven't see you mention a thing about me yet. Why?In post 334, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I know who xnadrojx jordan is lmao I'm asking for the context in who Jordan was talking to or about in the quotes Karnos posted.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Fair enough. I sometimes get reads on people based on the way they read me, but I did say to reserve judgement so I can't just back away from that. I knew/know some of the things I have done/said have been a bit questionable which is why I said to reserve judgement. It looks like I am going to have to get into my groove to get Town read this game.In post 336, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I believe, if my memory is good, post 281 or 271 I said I liked your diction.
For now I am reserving judgement as per your request.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Where do you play?In post 343, Lexa wrote:
Wall posts can be concise. There's just so much content and I intend to get as clear a picture on things as possible that even concise posts on the game (considering I haven't been actively posting to compensate) will require a considerable amount of writing in all likelihood.In post 339, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Noooo.In post 337, Lexa wrote:I'll likely wall post later in the week
Be concise or your points are drowned in your own wordsI was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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#FirstWorldProblemsIn post 349, mastina wrote:Good news: computer back.
Bad news: have a kitten on me.
Makes work hard.
<<< Have YOU tried to type out a votecount with a purring, kneading, suckling kitten rubbing against your skin?!? It's not as easy as you'd think! >>>I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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