You were wrong.In post 2138, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Am I wrong or was it your job to track Lexa to see if she actually went to fucking block Prana...
My job was to eliminate a Devil/you scumteam if ThinkBig died.
I did that.
You were wrong.In post 2138, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Am I wrong or was it your job to track Lexa to see if she actually went to fucking block Prana...
My concerns yesterday were that you were hard defending Devil, after his shit claim.In post 2140, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm lost.In post 2139, Titus wrote:My job was to eliminate a Devil/you scumteam if ThinkBig died.
Dude, if you're frustrated with town me, it really doesn't matter.In post 2141, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If you read the god damn thread you'd realize how fucking stupid it sounds to even include me in a fucking scum team possibility.
Why are you automatically supposing I'm honest here?In post 2143, Lexa wrote:I blocked prana so idk what gin is an ascetic? (Ty for defining that Titus hadn't come across it before)
Yes. That's the simplest conclusion, which is why I opened with cross em.In post 2152, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So, Lexa says she blocks Prana, when we don't know if she blocks Titus.
Who we don't know actually has her abilities and claims to track me with a "No result" making me ascetic if both parties are telling the truth 100%.
All the while, me having no actions and not being ascetic.
Among the 3 of us, there is in fact at least 1 lying sack of shit.
Doctors and roleblockers don't get PMs with any sort of result. So that's technically a rush to clear yourself.In post 2157, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:bloopIn post 1236, shannon wrote:I am (was!) a town JOAT.
N1 I jailkept Think Big
N2 I doctored Gin and Tonic
N3 I bodyguarded Gin and Tonic
N2 and N3, she would have gotten No results :p
One piece of the puzzle down
Now, it's either Lexa is lying about roleblocking Titus or Titus lying about the no result.
You claimed that Shannon targeting you would have known you were ascetic. That's not the case. Doctors do not receive feedback. If you died, she'd know her protection failed. But since you're living, Shannon knows nothing.In post 2160, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I DONT UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS TITUS.In post 2158, Titus wrote:Doctors and roleblockers don't get PMs with any sort of result. So that's technically a rush to clear yourself.
So, why not just outright claim to track Lexa and propose to track Lexa if I'm setting up Lexa to be lynched? Also, why object to my plan when I proposed tracking/following Gin? Why not chime in yourself?In post 2162, PranaDevil wrote:So... you track/watch/whatever the guy with nothing left to do... when you could have checked what Lexa was doing knowing (if shes honest at least) that she should have an action in blocking me, to at least confirm she did do so? At least that's the claim...
I have some theories as to why Titus didn't use the action on Lexa, but they all end up meaning Titus is scum in some form. My main theory being that pretending to get a "no result" is a great way to do one of two things:
1 - "I was blocked, therefore Lexa is scum who blocked me", and we're back onto Lexa being scum for the 5 billionth time, and we have a mislynch of Lexa
2 - "I was blocked, therefore Lexa is scum who blocked me", and we lynch scum-Lexa and Titus buys town points for the next day.
Either situation means Titus scum wins.
All I know is, thanks to yesterday's insinuation that everyone who is currently alive has to be the scum team because the VCA tells us so, Titus has to be scum as she clearly was more interested in getting "a" lynch, rather than the "correct" lynch.
Gin, is it not possible both are lying to some extent? Lexa might not be a roleblocker, and Titus may not be a Watcher. Or Lexa may be a roleblocker, while Titus is something else. I'm not ruling out either one or both being scum, but my money is solidly on Titus-scum.
THere's a method to my madness.In post 2165, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:In post 2164, Titus wrote:Devil, I presume you're hard townreading Gin and scumreading Lexa correct?
Have some vodka. It helps. :-pIn post 2167, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Making everyone go crazy, yesIn post 2166, Titus wrote:THere's a method to my madness.
You reacted with hostility to the mere possibility of being included as scum and was defending obvious scum Devil.In post 2168, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Titus, what was the reason you scum read me anyways?
I didn't say remove the Gin.In post 2171, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Look at my name and you dare suggest thatIn post 2170, Titus wrote:Have some vodka. It helps. :-p
I know it's hard being obvious scum, but you must tone down the waahh Titus is solving the game crying. Really, it's not a good look on you.In post 2174, PranaDevil wrote:Oh do tell... which pairing is it this time? Oh I know!
Garmr/Devil right? I knew it must be him
or maybe Devil/Gin?
or how about shannon/Lexa? Did that one come up before, I can't remember... i know we went through everybody at some stage.
Oh nope, Lexa's back to being scum again...
I'll keep a tally on how often we jump around with your read on Lexa today. That's 1.
If I tracked Lexa,In post 2176, shannon wrote:This is correct, I haven't received any result from the mod after using my actions, other than 'action received' type things.In post 2161, Titus wrote:You claimed that Shannon targeting you would have known you were ascetic. That's not the case. Doctors do not receive feedback. If you died, she'd know her protection failed. But since you're living, Shannon knows nothing.In post 2160, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I DONT UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS TITUS.In post 2158, Titus wrote:Doctors and roleblockers don't get PMs with any sort of result. So that's technically a rush to clear yourself.
Titus' play last night doesn't make sense to me.
Kinda figured it was going on, but I had to eliminate you/Devil. You probably would have demanded a Lexa check rather than a you check if you were scum with Devil though. Your rage just seemed like at the thought of being scumread.In post 2184, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:In post 2178, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIn post 2173, Titus wrote:You reacted with hostility to the mere possibility of being included as scumhttp://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=GoIn post 2179, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Boy oh boy, second
Just read my iso.
Near the end anyone dare say I'm scum i get livid. Literally drealz infuriated me to no end that game.
I have an unhealthy habit of yelling at people for thinking I'm scum when shit is quite fucking clearly not the case, as in you daring to fucking think that with doing fuck all besides an empty VCA? and saying I'm with Prana before a flip. It's a fucking joke and instead of making me laugh, it angers me.
You've got to be kidding me.In post 2187, shannon wrote:Agh I keep having my points invalidated by posts that come up when I hit submit.
TL;DR: I think we should vote Titus today.
Yes.In post 2193, shannon wrote:^^ So you've cleared me then Titus? I'm not mentioned in that last sentence (of previous post)
Hey, broken records called. They want your posts back.In post 2197, PranaDevil wrote:Seems silly to have VCs if nothing has happened.In post 2190, mastina wrote:Question: do you guys want VCs every page when less than a day has gone by and they're saying the same thing or not?
'Cause I can do that, but if not, I'm only going to give a VC once a day OR once a page if there's votes laid down/changes in a VC. (Which there currently aren't, so.)
I get two things from this:In post 2195, Titus wrote:Yes.In post 2193, shannon wrote:^^ So you've cleared me then Titus? I'm not mentioned in that last sentence (of previous post)
1 v 1 of Gin/Lexa, strongly leaning Lexa.
1 v 1 of Devil/you, and Devil's pretty just fucking scum in my VCA.
So yeah, you're pretty clear.
1 - TB is gone, Titus needs to buy a new buddy
2 - Apparently the VCA has decided I'm scum for this portion of today... who knows how long that will remain? Buggered if I know but it changed almost hourly yesterday, so tune in later and see what lies we've come up with next.
Devil, you have an account for 2010. My VCA is kinda famous for catching scum. I find it funny that you keep trying to discredit it.In post 2201, PranaDevil wrote:Actually, in fairness, Titus only failed to include me in the Lexa/shannon scum team.
I however was paired with Gin, Lexa and Garmr.
Apparently Titus really, desperately, wants me lynched, but she can't work out whether she wants to bus a buddy or drag town down as well. All we do know is the VCA was terrible.
If the shoe fits...Titus wrote:
Hey, broken records called. They want your posts back.
Also wouldn't be so easy to mock if you had actually done some modicum of scum hunting, instead of hiding behind "VCA tells all", only to have it fail to say anything beyond "I'm not the scumz". In fact... it's worth everyone noting that it's very easy to try and use VCA to point at people and call them scum when your slot is never going to be involved in that VCA. If you know you can clear yourself with VCA and nothing else... well, why would you try anything else?
Though it would have made much more sense, and worked better, had you focused on a set pairing, and not tried to cause confusion among literally everyone, to try and make out everyone else could be scum, including the guy we had already, as a group, removed from the pool of potential scum. I literally see no reason why town would want to take someone who was basically confirmed town, and try and make out that they're part of the scum team. I can, however, see plenty of reasons scum would want to.. blocks of confirmed town are dangerous.
I don't think I've done VCA in awhile with you.In post 2205, shannon wrote:^^ You say that but I've never actually seen your VCA work! (Maybe playing with me is the limiting factor)
Really, that's Devil's myth. I scumread Devil since my VCA. I've been looking for his partner.In post 2214, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:You don't actively scum read someone for more than 50 posts. I can't take that seriously.
I have Lexa's blatant scumclaim here where she supposed my result is honest.In post 2217, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I know you're good at VCA, but given I don't know your alignment, I can't trust it.
The only "action" Devil has done since I got here is whine about my VCA being wrong because it fingers him. If you see an action, I'm going to have to actually show you that it's not. Otherwise, this is circular.In post 2245, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm also sorry, but I can't side with you until you go through Prana and her actions and tell me why it's scum
Let's stop the bullshit.In post 2249, PranaDevil wrote:You mean like when you came up with your SECOND scum team of Lexa/shannon... which was AFTER your VCA?In post 2241, Titus wrote:No. It is 100% your pride.
You have fucked up many different dayphases until I got here and pointed out Devil scum. Devil is portraying my doubt as to his partner as to doubt on the gamestate. His posts are more about discrediting me and buddying town. How much effort has he put into hunting? Zero. He's just shading my VCA.
You know why he comes off cleaerer? He's had two days to plan and buddy you, not to mention all the game days.
You also need to resolve why you failed before I got here. My slot was inactive but you failed every day after d1. He never pushed my slot until I caught him.
No Titus, that's not throwing doubt as to my partner. In fact, the only reason you began tunneling me is because I didn't want to play your little game regarding claiming, you latched onto that because it gave you something you believed was tangible. That's the only reason you pushed me since then, not your VCA as your Lexa/shannon pairing proves quite comfortably.
You discredited your VCA by not sticking with any one player from it, you never showed any conclusions from it, you've not used it in any form beyond making claims it works, and you're pissed that everyone bought into it early on, but have since realized it was simply a way to hide from actually trying to scum hunt.
Want to know why I "come off clearer"? I'm not scum.
He already is, but you're paying about zero attention to anything that doesn't fit your narrative which is frustrating as fuck.In post 2251, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Prana vote Titus
No. I had Garmr as an idiot town. You're inferring I had Garmr as scum. When he was modkilled, I townread him.In post 2255, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Counterwagons lynched D2 because of Garmr and I, D3 Alisae claimed a fake guilty
D1 happened because I replaced in, so did TB, andI believed what karnos claimed.
Town imploded when I listened to anyone that wasn't me.
Was right about Karnos, LQ, Alisae.
You came along and made me think Garmr Prana and town imploded after that with a mod kill and we are here. Your VCA has already failed to catch scum as you thought Garmr. You've only made shit go downhill.
You believed Karnos because of Charisma of scum.In post 2260, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Everyone understands because they have context
If a game ever reaches lylo with you, I'm likely subbing out. Your abject refusal to even consider where you went wrong (and no town not listening to me doesn't cut it), is just a nightmare in lylo. I am considering just not playing with you anymore but that's probably just me being overly emotional at you sucking.In post 2264, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Bye have a good timeIn post 2263, Titus wrote:If you won't, then I won't waste my time.
Incorrect.In post 2266, PranaDevil wrote:I voted Devil because it practically solves the game for you if you actually get over yourself.
False, you are making out that because scum didn't double hammer me super quick, I must therefore be scum. However the same is true in the reverse, scum cannot double hammer me if scum is, already, on the wagon. So no, you don't get to use terrible logic to pretend you aren't scum.
Again, telling Gin is shitting the bed isn't AtE.In post 2269, PranaDevil wrote:shannon, Lexa, whichever of you isn't scum with Titus, mind hammering so we can move on? Plus it'll make tomorrow even easier if someone's not bussing.
Also, I like the last minute AtE going on from Titus... really a stellar performance, but I'm afraid it fails as Garmr clearly has the victory for that one all sewn up with his double header and self implosion.
Play the fucking game doesn't mean play it like you will.
That's not what I'm saying.In post 2273, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:HOW IN THE FUCK DO I ENGAGE WITH YOU IN PLAYING THE GAME WHEN YOU. HEY SHEEP ME BITCH IM A QUEEN; I DONT NEED REASONING TO SAY WHY SOMEONE IS SCUM
Zero.In post 2275, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:My god, I tried how many fucking times