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No, I wanted special effects as well as every head contributing on one post and reveal as a team or something. Make me your manager and I’ll get you a better director next time, we’ll be rich and make tons of moneyIn post 28, Smile wrote:@insomnia w0w that wasn't enough for you? I've shown you my transformation sequence... and everything. Rude
@Persival I feel like I would answer that differently if I wasn't in the hydra lmao
I dunno, I don't care about it
@Irrelephant We DID forget to mention that its a hydra... yeah man thats on us
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That’s one scum pinned, who’s next?
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Percy is just unreadable, I don’t want to get my brain toasted trying to read him. As for elephant, if he’s scum and he’s pushing one of the most powerful townies, it takes some balls I must say. It could be a high risk high reward push but I’m not too eager to call anyone scum yet, you know me, you’ll have to wait for my tunnel. I haven’t seen anything that I can pounce on yet.In post 38, Shiidaji wrote:
I'm looking for a biiig beefy hunk to vote with me wydIn post 32, insomnia wrote:That’s one scum pinned, who’s next?
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What posts of elephant’s ping you? He seems to be interested in pushing skitter at the moment, I’m taking it you are basing it off Percy and Elephant “poking” each other in their posts that makes you think “this is S/S”?
As for Percy, it seems like you are casing him based on what you think is his playstyle and he should strictly follow your line of action that you made for him. I don’t know how accurate your reads are based on that, it would certainly take me a lot of games with someone in order to determine how they would usually act.
I don’t usually remember people’s meta or don’t go into how they would think, too lazy for that-
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I never said he was serious about the push, why are you putting words into my mouth? My point was exactly like yours, he wanted to see where the wagon would lead, it can’t be a serious push that involved elephant scum reading skitter because she didn’t even post yet lmaoIn post 49, Persivul wrote:
Why do you read a RVS wagon as a serious push? Lots of people do that just to see what happens. It rarely goes to lynch.In post 45, insomnia wrote:What posts of elephant’s ping you? He seems to be interested in pushing skitter at the moment,-
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Are you jealous that I’ve not expressed my interest in becoming your manager? We could arrange something, I’m sure cowbird hero animations would have a big audienceIn post 58, Shiidaji wrote:
I don't really feel Percyscum anymore Chara. It is nice to see you again my friend. Do you feel like insomnia's entrance was natural? I liked post 45 trying to follow up on my thought process.In post 53, Chara wrote:VOTE: Shiidaji
i feel the exact opposite about his elephant/Percy proposal!
regarding jailkeepers: mod posts do seem to imply they're town. not locked, but good enough, especially with the mechanics surrounding mutual protection.-
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You and tris better start proving it, even if you are town, claiming it doesn’t excuse you from game solving.In post 61, Fuscezu wrote:Hi Im town-
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Yeah, that’s the main idea I was getting as well, but I just wanted to keep quite in case someone wanted to make us believe otherwise if you know ehat i meanIn post 138, Irrelephant11 wrote:The way the jail keepers can protect each other is also town-indicative for the roles imo
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In post 101, Fuscezu wrote:#realtalk
insomnia seems too eager
irrel is playing a game I dont really like but cant call scum
percy is looking nulltown
Im tired of the sailor moon bit already
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So you scum read "not interesting" posts? I don't see anything interesting in your posts.In post 181, ceejayvinoya wrote:Their early posts were not interesting.
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I feel like this is a safe spot where scum would park their vote for a while, I'm getting weird vibes off of this.In post 176, Miss Kobayashi Maru wrote:
even if you took that seriously I'm really confused what thought process led to this postIn post 168, ClearlyClarity wrote:tris — thoughts on this after skitter posted and MKM still has not?
VOTE: Clarity
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i'm tons of fun, i'm definitely not socially awkward or anything, I go to...parties, I have fun (?)In post 191, Fuscezu wrote:In post 185, insomnia wrote:In post 101, Fuscezu wrote:#realtalk
insomnia seems too eager
irrel is playing a game I dont really like but cant call scum
percy is looking nulltown
Im tired of the sailor moon bit already
I wish clarity would have not mentioned how new they were. I get paranoid about small things.huh?
Eager, as in I was clearly faphing around, and you immediately called it out. It isnt bad you did, but I feel like I walked right into the no-fun zone-
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well, when you say something, you gotta back it up so I wanted a reply because I was confused by your statementIn post 191, Fuscezu wrote:In post 185, insomnia wrote:In post 101, Fuscezu wrote:#realtalk
insomnia seems too eager
irrel is playing a game I dont really like but cant call scum
percy is looking nulltown
Im tired of the sailor moon bit already
I wish clarity would have not mentioned how new they were. I get paranoid about small things.huh?
Eager, as in I was clearly faphing around, and you immediately called it out. It isnt bad you did, but I feel like I walked right into the no-fun zone-
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I see what you mean, it could be an interesting thing to push for, I'm waiting for ceejay to post his readsIn post 190, Fuscezu wrote:I dont wanna go too far without my P's input, but I feel like it was a 'catch and release' kind of play. He's looking for a good wagon in a scummy way, and made a big deal about unvoting. without immediately revoting, which is always scummy.
A good towny isnt going to unvote even a light scumread for a good post or even a few good ones. He did.-
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votes, suspicions, I'm playing 3 games atm and 2 on another siteIn post 212, Persivul wrote:In post 180, funkybike1 wrote:Debating theory/outguessing the mod always tends to be a thing in these games. It very rarely works.
The text of the OP regarding the Jailkeepers was intentional; this isnota confirmation that both are Town.
All the votes? There's one. Someone's not reading the thread, but trying to act all townie by challenging a (nonexistent) wagon.In post 189, insomnia wrote:Can someone make a scum case on ceejay? I thought his unvote looked townie, I don't get all the votes on him
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It feels rather shallow to vote based on such a weak push. Did you even read my other posts or you saw something that you could've easily jumped on?
You put words in my mouth in the beginning and now are pushing me based on not paying attention.
VOTE: Persivul
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I'm voting for pressure, you're voting a scum read based on not paying attention. There's a huge difference in between the two, and you distorting it is lame af.
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Since my vote on Persivul isn't going anywhere and people don't hop on him for some reason, I'll do this
VOTE: Smile
5 headed hydra and you can't come up with a read and you are so neutral when it comes to giving reads. it feels off. you're like "insomnia is scum because of this, but i can see him being town" , "not feeling cj's posts", plenty of Iioa-
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so you got no reads off your plan with the fast wagon? thought you were pretty good and you thought you were confident in reading town skitter?In post 285, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Oh apparently I've just been glossing over the orange posts because they're orangeIn post 180, funkybike1 wrote:Debating theory/outguessing the mod always tends to be a thing in these games. It very rarely works.
The text of the OP regarding the Jailkeepers was intentional; this isnota confirmation that both are Town.
I redacted a thought here - not because it relates to ongoing games but because I think it'd be more helpful to say after a flip than before any flips
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pedit: I have no read on skitter yet-
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you and urap2 only reading me based on meta, smhIn post 292, Persivul wrote:In post 286, insomnia wrote:So Persivul are you going to hop off already or what?
Why are you so different here from last time I played with town!you and it was a total shitshow?In post 287, insomnia wrote:I thought you were going on with a push.-
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Skitter is an auto town read for me until I get fucked by the flip. To respond to the bolded, when skitter confronted you, you said you're pretty good at town reading her, and having her at a null is weird to me, with the plan and everything.In post 296, Irrelephant11 wrote:
I don't see how those sorts of comments are iioa. Can you explain that to me?In post 289, insomnia wrote:Since my vote on Persivul isn't going anywhere and people don't hop on him for some reason, I'll do this
VOTE: Smile
5 headed hydra and you can't come up with a read and you are so neutral when it comes to giving reads. it feels off. you're like "insomnia is scum because of this, but i can see him being town" , "not feeling cj's posts", plenty of Iioa
They're not very strong comments, I agree, but what about a five-headed hydra being a bit neutral feels off to you? I have a hard time seeing how the slot would be moving strongly in any direction as either alignment
That said my townread there was always weak, I don't really mind the vote
The vote thing was originally meant to be a post-scumflip way of reading skitter (how many scum were on her wagon, did any scum choose me to vote instead of her, etc)In post 291, insomnia wrote:
so you got no reads off your plan with the fast wagon? thought you were pretty good and you thought you were confident in reading town skitter?In post 285, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Oh apparently I've just been glossing over the orange posts because they're orangeIn post 180, funkybike1 wrote:Debating theory/outguessing the mod always tends to be a thing in these games. It very rarely works.
The text of the OP regarding the Jailkeepers was intentional; this isnota confirmation that both are Town.
I redacted a thought here - not because it relates to ongoing games but because I think it'd be more helpful to say after a flip than before any flips
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pedit: I have no read on skitter yet
And she hasn't done much I consider strongly indicative of her being town, nor really of being obvscum. So I don't have a read yet
I'm not sure why I should have a strong read this early -do you feel like skitter's alignment is obvious here?You've got posts on this same page saying you don't know how to read her so far
As for the hydra, I'll point the posts that I don't like and maybe they can defended themselves / explain their reads because they're scattered as hell-
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didn't quote anything, gave a blunt comment without anything in particular as to what pings them the wrong wayIn post 234, Smile wrote:Yeah man I'm not feeling CJ's posts
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In post 236, Smile wrote:wow I don't find anything else except for this 1v1 between insomnia and percy recently
in which case,
(btw the way insomnia didn't immediately retaliate and instead voted in a second post loses magical girl points for him. I refer to 213 and 214)
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It feels like an afterthoughtIn post 248, skitter30 wrote:
i kinda think insomnia is town actuallyIn post 236, Smile wrote:wow I don't find anything else except for this 1v1 between insomnia and percy recently
in which case,
(btw the way insomnia didn't immediately retaliate and instead voted in a second post loses magical girl points for him. I refer to 213 and 214)
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why is he less townie for voting in the second post?
like "oh yeah I'd normally scumread the guy in a similar situation"
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Seems to start off strong and then kind of falls off, as though to make sure she's being heard and seen but not making any push of her own.In post 253, Smile wrote:Maybe I can word it better
214 feels like an afterthought like "I should be scumread Percy right now" instead of "I am scumreading Percy right now" because the sudden shift in tone from 213 to 214. 214 and after are much more aggressive. not just becuase 214 is a different post from 213.
41 is okay. I don't feel as strongly as you about it but its slightly positive. meh
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I think when skitter confronted her, she kind of saw there was no interest in lynching me and just abandoned her read.
Also, I forgot that this is a god damn hydra because I've never played with one and then I figured why people want them vetoed from their games. It's so hard to keep track of everyone's read and it's weird to see one account having different scum reads and town reads, so that's totally on me
seems like I'll have to talk with Miss March over here.
so ignore my argument regarding the scattered reads, that's fucking dumb on me
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I want to change my meta because I get scum read on this solely based on me being such an obvious town when I'm town. If I'm really town as town, when I roll town I won't be like that.In post 315, tris wrote:
skitter was "covering" you in our last game as well, but you do seem a bit different from that game to me. How many games were you in at the start of that game? You seem more subdued here.In post 293, insomnia wrote:I told you I have 5 games going on my dude, that plus when skitter covers me like that I don't feel like doing much. I have to get out of that habit lmao
So I'm sorry this had to be the game where I reverse my meta, but I keep looking back on my first scum game and nobody knowing my meta there and I sweeped easily because people didn't know me and what I'd normally do.
Although it's hurting me and it's really counter intuitive for me, it's a sacrifice I have to make in order to enjoy playing scum more as well. As it stands, I'm probably the shittiest scum player on the website. I lose all of my try hard motivation when I roll scum because I know i'm getting caught like day 2.-
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That plus my town meta is basically really accurate through this flow chart
Nail scum team in RVS based on their shit posts -> start overthinking -> tunnel every single town -> clutter the thread -> be a toxic piece of shit so you lynch your target and force the game hostage -> they flip town
and repeat without the first step until game's over-
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It was an omgus because Percy always pushes me for the dumbest reasons. RCE never pushed me based on dumb reasons.In post 338, Smile wrote:Hey insomnia lemme try to understand your thoughts a little bit
What was your plan when you voted Percy? If I understand right you don't necessarily scumread Percy but you want to vote him for pressure? If so why Percy out of all the people here? Why not RCE for example? Cause I don't remember a single post from RCE and its probably not a good sign
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Explain the leap from Percy to RCE? I couldn’t find the correlation.In post 338, Smile wrote:Hey insomnia lemme try to understand your thoughts a little bit
What was your plan when you voted Percy? If I understand right you don't necessarily scumread Percy but you want to vote him for pressure? If so why Percy out of all the people here? Why not RCE for example? Cause I don't remember a single post from RCE and its probably not a good sign
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Who dare summon the embodiment of justice?
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What info?In post 547, Persivul wrote:
Could have gotten something going? It was going nowhere. It was a waste to have it there. shiidaji otoh is a viable wagon and whatever happens with it, we'll get some info out of it.In post 505, Smile wrote:Percy why did you drop your push on insomnia, when we could have gotten something going
especially when the new vote is shiidaji which fundamentally does nothing
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I don’t see why we’re not policying you for playing like this on purposeIn post 530, tris wrote:I don't see why I would be townread right now.-
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Sooo...What’s your point?In post 568, tris wrote:
Fuscezu had just asked me if I felt the townread was undeserved.In post 565, insomnia wrote:
I don’t see why we’re not policying you for playing like this on purposeIn post 530, tris wrote:I don't see why I would be townread right now.-
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It’s useless to get into wagonomics this early though, that clear sure is interesting. Also, Percy not posting much relevant information / anything that stands out to me like it did in other games is making me putting him back on my scumdar. I usually have a bad habit of rulig out the people that back out from pushing me, I have to look at his progression on me-
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I just went back to catch up and saw you asking me if Smile is my strongest scum read, yes.
As for reading RCE I’ve already addressed it, I’ll never be able to read him, I only read him when he gets to like at L-1 and starts raging because of it, his tone can give him away while on the chopping block.
Having stronger players like Skitter and whoever’s left to determine his alignment if they have Meta with him is better as it generates info, if they misrep his meta then they have high scum equity, so I’ll just do that.-
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