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Mostyl I don't want to go the weakest route on the chance we have Undyne. We can make her useful by her claiming which either will (1) get us a conftown or (2) worst case lynch us a scumIn post 37, Something_Smart wrote:
Do you think genocide is bad or just a boring option in a setup like this?In post 29, chennisden wrote:We're never using her ability
Undyne's power is amazing if it triggers.-
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Read the game we have lynchesIn post 41, Oversoul wrote:
But we don’t know who is the scum duh. And we won’t because no flips duhIn post 36, chennisden wrote:IF THERE'S A COUNTERCLAIM WE LYNCH THE SCUM DUH-
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Pacifist is flipless I think so idkIn post 44, Something_Smart wrote:
You think the scumteam would open the game by stacking heal votes on one of their members? O.oIn post 34, chennisden wrote:oversoul you're throwing out names and healing who looks like your scum partner
can you not
(To be clear I would be totally down for this and was planning to self-heal before I got my role but I doubt my partner would want to tie themself to me like that.)
Oversoul looks terrible rn and you don't fwiw-
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Nah we spare them.In post 48, Elements wrote:
Don't scum just kill the pr claim night 1?In post 45, chennisden wrote:Worst case we lynch wrong and lynch scum tomorrow.
WORST CASE. That's terrible for scum btw.
PRs should claim D1 and w/o counterclaim we spare.-
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Worst case yeah then I think we just play mafia at that point.In post 54, DrDolittle wrote:and if there is a cc, then we go into day 3 in a 5-1?-
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Asgore should probably claim today, idk how strongly I feel about undyne claiming today but i feel like they should, and toriel maybe claims d2? idkIn post 57, Something_Smart wrote:Well, here's my idea. If you're PR and you think you have a reasonable (~33% or greater) chance of dying at night, you should claim and be spared. Otherwise, we can probably put that off until D2/D3 because Toriel equity.
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no, we should spare. scum has to play significantly better to be spared than for them to just get mislynches.In post 64, Oversoul wrote:How about this
Do we want to go for Spare with safety valve of Neutral, or we want to go for Genocide with safety valve of Neutral? Thinking about it, I think we should do the later.-
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no.In post 69, Oversoul wrote:I don’t think that’s true. Sparing is like doing the scums job for them. We are removing the townies player then they have a chance to remove the second towniest player. It accelerates the race to the bottom which is typically why most scum teams win.
just no.-
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rather than driving town to their deaths they have to drive themselves for the spare.
it's much harder to pretend you're arguing in good faith when you have to push yourself as the towniest player in the game.
in a LOT of setups scum can stop going for the agenda that they're the towniest player at some point. even fakegod's dance setup which is prolly the most townsided game i've seen in a while gives some room for that. this setup is townsided if we play this way because we don't give scum the room to do that, EVER.-
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this is wrongIn post 93, Oversoul wrote:I just realized how many lurkers/inscrutable players we have in this game. I will not be sparing anyone and do not think we should spare. We need alignments.
we're getting alignments a la the "party mechanic" in neutral
sparing is an easy way to protect the PR from scum (scum ALSO CAN'T COUNTERCLAIM W/O HUGE OPPORTUNITY LOSS)
we have enough people who can towntell quite well, etc.-
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GE is usually transparently town oversoul so idk what you're talking about?In post 106, Oversoul wrote:You said that once and I do not believe you especially when you mentioned Gamma Emerald as one of those players.-
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scumreading me for bad reasons was how i won my last scumgame so even if i'm scum the way you're playing around me is significantly -EV
it's best for you not to call me scum because if i'm scum you're giving me a way to easily fake the mental gymnastics required to deviate from the plan that wins the game for town with little accountability.-
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the difference is that as scum i'd say "i am obviously town"In post 115, Something_Smart wrote:
I was in agreement with this until you said it ngl.In post 113, chennisden wrote:i also am obviously not scum so idk what else to say.-
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because sparing mafia as 5th player loses the game...?In post 120, Oversoul wrote:
How are they conftown?In post 114, Something_Smart wrote:Actually no. The fifth player to be spared will also be confirmed town, so scum can already kill a conftown in pacifist.-
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