Gorrad wrote:Mod:If Pikachu is mafia and targets a mafia, does he still die?
Right, I believe first order of business for today is a mass night action claim in a random order, so:Xdaamo wrote:If Pikachu targets town he is protected, if he targets mafia/sk he dies, regardless of Pikachu's own alignment.
Not really, no. Clearly, if you're town, you're a dangerous role for anti-town players to leave alive. I can't see that them knowing the exact nature of that danger will have a significant effect on whether or not you're targeted for the NK.Anatole Kuragin wrote:I might be killed if I claim my role? Is nobody else afraid for my life?
This doesn't really apply to a game where all roles are claimed before the game even starts though. I don't think your AK vote has a lot of substance to it, because I agree that I wouldn't have expected anderson to be NKed.Gorrad wrote:Sorry, let me rephrase. If someone claims one-shot vig, it's usually a safe bet they die the next day over almost any other claimed roles.
Yeah, it's worth giving a thorough readthrough or two to the setup explanations at the beginning of the thread, there's a lot of subtleties you'd miss if you just skimmed. I guess it's possible that the SK missed it himself and didn't realise the tracker was worthless against him, though.Lawrencelot wrote:Good catch. I didn't know the SK's kill was untraceable. Still possible that it's the other way around, but let's just assume you're right about this.If neither of our vigs used their kills, it's probably safe to assume ckd was the mafia's kill and Flameaxe the SK's, because the SK's kill is untraceable, so he'd have no reason to off the tracker. Not sure how much it helps us to know this, though.
I'd agree with this conclusion based on their D1 posts, but Gorrad seemed to be indicating that his vote had nothing to do with those.Lawrencelot wrote:I don't agree with Gorrad, but I don't find him scummy for attacking AK either. I don't like AK's behaviour, but sometimes he makes sense. Between Gorrad and AK, I think AK is more likely to be scum, but I don't know yet who I find the scummiest of the others.
I'm pretty sure it's perfectly possible for us to 'get down to business' regardless of the fact that Gorrad is voting for you.Anatole Kuragin wrote:Perhaps you should go ahead and remove your OMGUS vote so we can get down to business.
OK.andersonw wrote:I didn't vote for MafiaSSK because 1. I don't usually like hammering unless if I'm over 95% sure, 2. This quote by The Fonz:He told dahill that he wanted to wait a little bit before hammering to say everything he wanted to say, so I didn't want to hammer MafiaSSK.The Fonz wrote:Gimme a day or two.
With my being very likely to die overnight, I want to make sure i've said everything i can think of.
Not OK. Why do you think you didn't you have anything new to discuss? Why haven't you discussed anything besides my vote on you in this post?andersonw wrote:and 3. I had to post something since I was prodded. I didn't really have anything new to discuss, so I just wanted to say that I thought MSSK was an OK lynch with me.
This isn't true at all. If scumGob hid behind The Fonz, as directed, his partner could have performed the kill, so the only people that are ruled out as Gob's partner are The Fonz (because Gob would have died) and dahill (because we know he sent a mushroom to The Fonz), assuming that scumGob wouldn't ignore what the town told him to do in the faint hope that someone else would target The Fonz.The Fonz wrote:So Gob's potential partners would be limited to Lawrencelot, Gorrad, and AK. (We'd see the effect of a vigging).
This is a very good point.The Fonz wrote:Also note that Gob's actions are likely to kill him at some point.
Gorrad, everybody disagrees with you, because you're wrong.Gorrad wrote:Sure I do. In my experience, one-shot vigs die really early, and you disagree. Fonz disagrees too, and that's not precisely making me feel good about him either, but you stand out.
I've sort of avoided discussing my predecessor's actions so far, because they were pretty dumb in places, especially this post. Apart from that, he didn't really contribute much of note. So basically, if I'd replaced someone else, I could make the same case against JTP as I originally made against anderson. But I like to think that my actions D2 have made up for JTP's D1 more than anderson's actions D2 have made up for his D1.dahill1 wrote:ok trying to get some discussion going. username i'm not sure if you already answered this but what do you think of your predecessor's behavior (JamesthePhox) at the end of day 1?
I agree with The Fonz on why the first point is not a good reason for finding him scummy, because Gorrad's claimed night action only makes sense if he honestly believes it was a good choice as town, which makes it a null tell. His latest "I definitely would have done this as scum" WIFOM does give me pause, though.andersonw wrote:But still, the main reason for me thinking Gorrad is scum because of his night choice, and now he's bringing in more WIFOM about his choice.
He lurked through the whole of D1, and made a post towards the end of the day expressing support for the SSK wagon, when it was pretty clear that that lynch was going to go through which looks a lot like distancing to me. He hasn't done any scumhunting without being specifically prompted to do so, and he's going after Gorrad today in a way that feels like he's just picking the easy target.Lawrencelot wrote:I think I'm losing track of this game. Can gob or iamausername tell me what the case on andersonw is?
OK, for the first point, I'd just be echoing exactly what The Fonz said on the subject.andersonw wrote:What about these two parts? I know that The Fonz has already responded to the first part and has shown that it is not that strong, but could you respond to them anyways?
This is not true, the SK can kill and perform his other night action in the same night. We've iscussed this quite a lot, I'd think you should have realised by now.dahill1 wrote:now all we need is the SK, which clears me and Fonz since both of us have been proved not to be the killer
This is the logical conclusion, but it seems odd that Gorrad would claim something that quite clearly wasn't true, and demonstrate awareness of this fact.Lawrencelot wrote:I think Gorrad is the last mafia then, he just messed up by saying he blocked iama which isn't possible if iama is the SK.
Damn, you're right. That totally slipped my mind.Lawrencelot wrote:Wait, iama isn't dead yet! Gorrad, you forgot about his role (and so did others?)
The Fonz wrote:That contradicts their win condition.Yes.Mod: If ice climbers are death stumped, anti-town and alive with one other person (pro-town), do they win?
Xdaamno wrote:If a Mafioso or Serial Killer and a town-aligned player are the last two players alive, the Mafioso/Serial Killer wins.
You're assuming AK told the truth about what power he absorbed N1.The Fonz wrote:No, that's not possible. AK can't have shot PEG.
AK cannot use a power and absorb on the same night. He absorbed the doc power night one, so he would have had the choice of using the doc power night two, or absorbing (but not using) another power. His role specifically states that absorbed powers can be used the FOLLOWING night.Xdaamno wrote: [row color=black][row]You’reKirbyrole absorberKirby! You made your debut inKirby’s Dream Land, and in this game, you’re aRole Absorber. At night, you can choose to absorb the role of another player, and then you’ll be able to use it yourself the following night! Once you’ve used this role, it has taken effect, or one night has passed, you can’t use it again. Also, you can only have one role absorbed at a time, and you can’t use a power and absorb a role on the same night.