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Post Post #17 (isolation #0) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:25 am

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I am in favor of posting flavor if for no other reason than to get clued into the story the mod has written!

Image

(also I’m a bit overwhelmed so don’t expect me to take this game too seriously)
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Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:58 am

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Oh I’m sorry would you like me to link the 9 other games I’m playing right now?
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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:42 am

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I know, that was sarcasm

thanks mod
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Post Post #27 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:58 am

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I think there's no way I don't end up townreading Hectic at some point

HEAL: Hectic

half joke half real
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Post Post #29 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:05 am

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I've been getting that a lot lately I must be doing something right

Can you cite some examples?
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Post Post #33 (isolation #5) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:42 am

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Hey that’s a temporal inconsistency

Come on we’re running a professional operation here
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Post Post #38 (isolation #6) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:07 pm

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@mod

Can you confirm there are no time travel mechanics in this game
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Post Post #48 (isolation #7) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:34 pm

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if y'all try to incite one more time paradox I swear
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Post Post #52 (isolation #8) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:38 pm

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is concern for temporal
integrity
really that scummy of a behavior
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Post Post #54 (isolation #9) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:39 pm

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In post 53, Asriel Dreemurr wrote:Also, townpoints to the first person who guesses my flavor!
I think the site itself did since it's right above this post
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Post Post #56 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:41 pm

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YEAH EXACTLY
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Post Post #57 (isolation #11) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:42 pm

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I think Asriel and Chara should post their images

this definitely has more substantial reasoning than me wanting to see them
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Post Post #58 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:45 pm

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HEAL: Asriel

I think him being openly nervous about the intro is towny

lightly, but still something I wanna go off of
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Post Post #62 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:18 pm

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In post 61, Chara wrote:
In post 58, Chemist1422 wrote:HEAL: Asriel

I think him being openly nervous about the intro is towny

lightly, but still something I wanna go off of
Asriel's nervous about everything.
you're probably right, but I think if he were scum he'd be more nervous about being nervous
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Post Post #67 (isolation #14) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:43 am

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In post 66, alimdia wrote:
In post 18, SherlockHolmes wrote:I had hoped that I might be able to discuss at length the latest chemical discoveries, being something of an amateur myself, with the more serious scientist in our little party. Instead, I found myself disconcerted by his need to excuse himself from the beginning of the adventure.

HURT: Chemist1422
Was this serious or still RVS
In post 19, Chemist1422 wrote:Oh I’m sorry would you like me to link the 9 other games I’m playing right now?
Was this a serious answer? Did a quick search but not comprehensive enough to check if you were alive in all of them.
In post 52, Chemist1422 wrote:is concern for temporal
integrity
really that scummy of a behavior
What is temporal integrity?
1. Yes but some are on other sites
2. Nothing game-related
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Post Post #98 (isolation #15) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:23 pm

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hai ali
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Post Post #134 (isolation #16) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:47 pm

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yeah game's been a bit dead this weekend so I haven't been super engaged but I'll try to post more
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Post Post #137 (isolation #17) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:21 pm

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HURT: JTB

Just to have a vote down+see how this develops
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Post Post #195 (isolation #18) » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:03 pm

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what if we go for 2-2 and try to get the FN to be the "set-aside" player?

actually I'm not really sure how that works to be honest
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Post Post #228 (isolation #19) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:08 am

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hectic, is that why you initially voted to fight Sherlock?
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Post Post #229 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:10 am

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Also to anyone who wants to spare D1 and is voting to fight, or vice versa, why?

I have an idea but I want to see what the rest of y’all are thinking
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Post Post #263 (isolation #21) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:25 pm

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In post 259, SherlockHolmes wrote:
Mssrs. Nachomamma8, JTheophrastus, Chemist, and Hectic: could I entice you gentlemen with the prospect of lynching our companion Alimdia?
why these names out of the entire game?
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Post Post #266 (isolation #22) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:51 pm

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that sounds nasty and I don't think I want to know what it is

good luck with your rl stuff
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Post Post #268 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:54 pm

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"I don't think I want to know what that is" is not an invitation for you to tell me what it is :v
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Post Post #312 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:37 am

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I’m not 100% on my Asriel spare, never was, but he hasn’t done anything to make him strongly trend down

I haven’t been that around tbh but you’re probably the only person I would consider moving my spare to
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Post Post #329 (isolation #25) » Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:36 pm

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@Rep
I switched to Asriel from Hectic because I wanted do be doing something new with my vote

Really I don’t remember having a reason but it was probably something like that
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Post Post #333 (isolation #26) » Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:08 pm

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I will look into that when it’s not 10 PM!

So nothing rn
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Post Post #341 (isolation #27) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:33 am

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If you think scum are trying to lurk it’s probably better to go pacifist to force them to do stuff

Why is Hectic town to you, alim?
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Post Post #343 (isolation #28) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:11 am

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In post 342, Chara wrote:where do you see scum, Chemist?
not hectic
probably not you, rep, or asriel
I feel like pine is a cop-out push at this point so slightly lean town there

so that leaves sherlock/nacho/alim/amrun/suji

will probably work through this soon
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Post Post #348 (isolation #29) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:26 am

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Asriel's ISO to me is like

town null null null null etc.

really the only thing is towny tone and him having nothing against him
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Post Post #357 (isolation #30) » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:17 pm

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I am extraordinarily strange as both alignments so
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Post Post #388 (isolation #31) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:21 am

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In post 383, Chara wrote:
In post 343, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 342, Chara wrote:where do you see scum, Chemist?
not hectic
probably not you, rep, or asriel
I feel like pine is a cop-out push at this point so slightly lean town there

so that leaves sherlock/nacho/alim/amrun/suji

will probably work through this soon
when you say cop-out push, do you mean you think scum are pushing it, or just LHF?
Just LHF but I do think scum are probably pushing it if I’m right
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Post Post #399 (isolation #32) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:37 am

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In post 393, Hectic wrote:Image
The IDIOT skeleton liked him early because he seemed natural/genuine, and liked how he pointed out Asriel's
awkwardness
. But recently, he's felt a lot less engaged, and I don't understand keeping a SPARE vote on Asriel.
In post 312, Chemist1422 wrote:I’m not 100% on my Asriel spare, never was, but he hasn’t done anything to make him strongly trend down

I haven’t been that around tbh but you’re probably the only person I would consider moving my spare to
In post 329, Chemist1422 wrote:@Rep
I switched to Asriel from Hectic because I wanted do be doing something new with my vote

Really I don’t remember having a reason but it was probably something like that
In post 348, Chemist1422 wrote:Asriel's ISO to me is like

town null null null null etc.

really the only thing is towny tone and him having nothing against him
@Chemist: Howdy! If you're not 100% on your Asriel SPARE, does lurking and prodging not trend him down? If you wanted something new to do with your vote, why is locking it on Asriel useful, especially since Asriel disappeared?
Not particularly, honestly, especially since he was being open about not being interested in the game it feels more like an NAI thing

I didn’t ever intend to lock it on Asriel just didn’t think to move it at any point
In post 396, Chara wrote:hello Psyche, Farkran, thanks for stepping up.

Chemist: what's the difference between LHF and no-content/null? i understand where the Asriel TR came from, though i don't agree.
it will be nice to see more from both slots, however.

Hectic: about 275, i also found them to be minor things to focus on. but the elaboration on finding the tone duplicitous is i think understandable, especially given the persona i was roleplaying, so i don't find it strange to pick up on necessarily, in hindsight.
LHF is people who are getting pushed on specifically for that reason, or any other that makes them easy to lynch (abrasive personality, inability to produce content, bad reads)
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Post Post #483 (isolation #33) » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:34 pm

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HEAL: pops

I think I'm liking the Sherlock slot a bit more now with his recent posting, specifically the progression on Nacho

Still feel fine about town!Fark as well
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Post Post #539 (isolation #34) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:44 am

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In post 538, Farkran wrote:
In post 137, Chemist1422 wrote:HURT: JTB

Just to have a vote down+see how this develops
Chemist do you have a followup on this? JTB is the Replica slot, for the record. I believe there has been plenty of content to analyze by now
Is my vote still there

I’m pretty sure I said I townread the Replica slot
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Post Post #542 (isolation #35) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:56 am

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In post 540, Farkran wrote:Do you want to update it?
HURT: pops

:v
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Post Post #544 (isolation #36) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:10 am

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In post 543, Amrun wrote:
In post 542, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 540, Farkran wrote:Do you want to update it?
HURT: pops

:v
Why not join me on Suji?
Because I don’t have a why yet

I’ll read the slot soon
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Post Post #546 (isolation #37) » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:21 am

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We have like 3-4 days right?

I still think we should spare Hectic today
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Post Post #708 (isolation #38) » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:29 pm

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henlo

I'll try to get to reading stuff soon, any suggestions?
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Post Post #744 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:57 am

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In post 6, popsofctown wrote:
Replacement history:
Hectic
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Farkran
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Chara
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Post Post #745 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:57 am

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also I agree with the sherlock heal

what’s the votecount
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Post Post #917 (isolation #41) » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:13 am

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HEAL: Suji

That’s hammer

I’ll try to be around more tomorrow
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Post Post #940 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:23 am

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morning

I’ll read your wallpost in a bit Fark
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Post Post #961 (isolation #43) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:03 am

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the real skeletons were inside us all along?
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Post Post #963 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:05 am

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Ah alright

Hectic, I initially townread you because I liked your progression into solving.
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Post Post #966 (isolation #45) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:21 am

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In post 964, Chara wrote:
In post 957, Hectic wrote:
In post 949, Chara wrote:i TR Amrun, it's not lock but i've come around on her, particularly in her interactions with Sujimichi. why do you scumread her?
hmm.
i didn't like her giving in to SPARING Sujimichi after she was so vehemently against the concept of SPARING.
but y'know, looking back, that actually came after Sujimichi claimed FN and her defence of Nacho did look very towny.
nevermind pal.
do you agree with my take on Chemist?
i've been reading Sherlock's but i don't get why those questions make him town when he rarely ever follows up on them and i can't see reads that have been formed off of them.
hell if i know.
maybe he's just a close to the chest type of player.
what Sherlock said about Chemist's style lines up, and from what i know of Chemist it makes sense as well.

it's enough i don't really want to lynch Chemist, but i wouldn't spare him either. if he was more into the game i think i could be more confident, at least in terms of securing a townread. he could be trying to skirt along and avoid a lynch, but that would indicate to me (from scum Chemist) that he thinks his partner is in a good position now.
i think that scum would be putting more into this, especially given how the game looks right now. but i know that's not the most reliable measure. i do think a large part of it is playstyle, he's reticent as town by Sherlock's knowledge.
i'm interested in what he thinks of Farkran's case.

pedit: hello Chemist! why do you TR Hectic now?
It was mostly just consistent solving but I think I’m gonna put it on hold until I read Farkran’s wall
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:43 pm

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okay back at computer and snack attained time to read the wall let's do this
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:58 pm

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Okay I read it

The first issue I had with it is that you saying their posting was weird at EoD implies that you were scumreading them before you ISO'd them, which seems like confbias, intentional or not.

Second issue: a couple things feel like misreps, particularly you implying 392 was unexplained when there were multiple lines of reasoning in the post. 300 also didn't feel like a chainsaw because to me it pings more as trying to determine my alignment as opposed to arguing about Hectic's. If I'm reading into the context correctly, no matter who I had been sparing they would have made approximately the same post, just with the bolded switched to correctly name whoever I'd been voting

Also there's the fundamental flaw that if you think all three interactions could be SvS, you're guaranteed to be wrong on at least two of them, so that sort of calls into question the validity of the read

Fark, why did you choose to ISO those players first, in more detail?
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:37 pm

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Farkran wrote:I admit i tend to enter deathtunnels, and that's why i'm asking for different point of views. I am having an hard time with it because all the answers i'm getting are pretty much "you're wrong because you're scum, and you're scum because you're wrong" - not really helpful. Confbias though just means that part/all of my reasoning is wrong though, not the conclusions - i'm pointing this out because if you (all) can lead me to understand where my reasoning has been wrong, i could reach different conclusions or the same, depending on whether i accept the new premises that you show me.
For what it's worth, I don't think the wallpost is that scummy actually, but I've been burned on these sorts of reads before, which is why I'm trying to follow up on it
Farkran wrote: WRT post 392, i think i expanded on it later when i was questioned about it. Post .
Alright, will check it out once I'm done responding
Farkran wrote:WRT post 300, you could be correct without context, but within the given context i think it is peculiar that Replica scumleans Chara at this point in time, when reading it with added future knowledge. Like, Replica seems to use Chara's unvote of Hectic to further his scumleans on it mostly because of confbias (Replica was townleaning Hectic and scumleaning Chara at the moment of post 300), but later on this feeling disappears completely for reasons that seemed unnaturally tied to how the three slots read each other. Compare this post to 607 -you can find it lower in my wall- to see an example of what i mean. This is probably more about Chara and Hectic themselves rather than Replica though.
I thought it was about my unvote of Hectic though? And I don't see how 607 is unnatural, given that Replica was already SPAREing Hectic?
Farkran wrote:Why i am guaranteed to be wrong on at least TWO of them, though? I would think i am wrong on at least one, potentially two or all three of them. Why exactly two? I did say that i think one of them is being deeply pocketed, but i didn't seem to gain any ground on that - i am now more inclined to believe the pocketed slot is Replica, if i am correct in saying there are 2 scum in that pool. It's just very, very hard to accept Replica's approach to this game as town, although it's... probably true. I town/scumhunt with emotional tells, as you may or may not recall from our previous game together (see my read of V&M in the magireco game hosted by tatsuya), and Replica is somewhat falling in that category. Not as much as i would like, but... arguably enough.
I meant two worlds, not two slots, sorry if that was unclear. What tells from Replica do you think are town?
Farkran wrote:Lastly, i chose those 3 because they are the ones who pinged me the most. Psyche would have been included, i still scumlean him, but the readshifts of that trio are the most peculiar to me. Amrun pinged me too, but in a more towny sense, so i am willing to leave her alone until i get more content to work with. I was suspecting you for your early defense of the lurker slots - that would place you in team with Psyche though, and i don't fancy that solve anymore. Nacho and Almidia(bingle) have been mostly lurking, i am waiting for them to come back with new content, but i am townleaning Nacho due to how the reads of other players evolved around him, and i liked Almidia multipost readlist back around post 290 or something.
Okay, that's fair. Can you go into more detail about the Psyche read, and are you just dropping the me/Psyche world because you're confident on the Hectic/Chara/Replica pool having scum?
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Post Post #1022 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:41 pm

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alright, night

if anyone else wants to discuss what I think about the wallpost I'll try not to lose 100% of my focus
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:01 pm

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reads are a lie perpetuated by the government


townread: farkran, hectic
townlean: psyche, amrun?
null: replica, chara, alim (note: I haven't read the ISOs of these three yet, but I did want to talk about my Nacho read before doing that)
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scumread: nacho

My Nacho read is based on one central thing: I think they are having trouble making genuine reads. I don't like them repeatedly going "I disagree with this but Chemist is still town", it feels like them trying to justify a TMI townread, I don't like the abundance of mechanics talk, and I don't like their scum pool being mostly lurkers then them proceeding to lurk.
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:21 pm

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In post 1028, Amrun wrote:I think chemist’s scumread of nacho is fair. Why townread Farkran though?
I liked his wall and tone in his responses
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #52) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:46 pm

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In post 1034, Amrun wrote:
In post 1032, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 1028, Amrun wrote:I think chemist’s scumread of nacho is fair. Why townread Farkran though?
I liked his wall and tone in his responses
What did you like about his wall? You don’t seem to agree with much of it.
I’m inclined to read it as genuine because he put thought and effort into it and I think his responses made that clear
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Post Post #1037 (isolation #53) » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:10 pm

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In post 1036, Amrun wrote:
In post 1035, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 1034, Amrun wrote:
In post 1032, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 1028, Amrun wrote:I think chemist’s scumread of nacho is fair. Why townread Farkran though?
I liked his wall and tone in his responses
What did you like about his wall? You don’t seem to agree with much of it.
I’m inclined to read it as genuine because he put thought and effort into it and I think his responses made that clear
No arguments that he put thought and effort, I just think he would do that as either alignment.
I mean you’re not wrong

I dunno it’s sort of a gut read at this point for me

I just really think he believes in the read
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #54) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:50 pm

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In post 1110, Nachomamma8 wrote:Siblings,

My next day off of work is tomorrow and I will give you all of me then. I apologize for repeated delays and broken promises but the real thing is coming in HOT.
Can't wait to see it

anyway hi I had a math team meet after school so haven't been able to be here that much ama
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #55) » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:47 pm

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In post 1112, Hectic wrote:i like your hat...
is that a pichu or pikachu on your shoulder...?
it looks very small for a pikachu...
it's a pikachu! I'm not sure why it's small but it is pretty strong
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Post Post #1182 (isolation #56) » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:01 am

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HEAL: Farkran
HURT: Nacho

Going with Farkran over hectic because I feel like my townread is more substantial
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #57) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:53 am

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In post 1251, Bingle wrote:What’s with the nachovote?
In post 1026, Chemist1422 wrote:
reads are a lie perpetuated by the government


townread: farkran, hectic
townlean: psyche, amrun?
null: replica, chara, alim (note: I haven't read the ISOs of these three yet, but I did want to talk about my Nacho read before doing that)
scumlean:
scumread: nacho

My Nacho read is based on one central thing: I think they are having trouble making genuine reads. I don't like them repeatedly going "I disagree with this but Chemist is still town", it feels like them trying to justify a TMI townread, I don't like the abundance of mechanics talk, and I don't like their scum pool being mostly lurkers then them proceeding to lurk.
In post 1182, Chemist1422 wrote:HEAL: Farkran
HURT: Nacho

Going with Farkran over hectic because I feel like my townread is more substantial
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #58) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:10 am

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In post 309, Hectic wrote:HURT: Pine
In post 336, Chara wrote:Pine might be someone i'd wrestle with as well, i don't know if there is much difference between them besides Asriel being the one to have ignored me a few times now. i know he's busy with his chores, but really.
In post 340, alimdia wrote:Thinking Nacho. He posted but didn't respond to my posts.

Otherwise Pine or Asriel.

Sparing Hectic probably works because if he's scum then we kinda deserve the loss
@Nacho
These were all on the two pages before I made my Pine read

Out of these three I find Alim's vote to be the worst, especially considering their ISO of Pine was "this slot has done nothing and hasn't gotten pushed"
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Post Post #1337 (isolation #59) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:12 am

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In post 1268, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 382, Chara wrote:i do wonder about his list of reads, because from calling Replica "disingenous" (with negative connotations?) i didn't expect a strong townread.
i thought that replica's portrayal of your posting was a bit slimy and overly critical in that he seemed to be fitting a square peg into a round hole. i don't think that's necessarily a scum trait; again, don't think that scum replaces in and starts pushing a you+me team unless they feel they have a case that can get them some support or clout and the push as a whole didn't read that way.
In post 388, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 383, Chara wrote:
In post 343, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 342, Chara wrote:where do you see scum, Chemist?
not hectic
probably not you, rep, or asriel
I feel like pine is a cop-out push at this point so slightly lean town there

so that leaves sherlock/nacho/alim/amrun/suji

will probably work through this soon
when you say cop-out push, do you mean you think scum are pushing it, or just LHF?
Just LHF but I do think scum are probably pushing it if I’m right
this is a weird position to push when there was exactly 0 people voting for pine at that point in time.
what did pine do that read town to you? why is it scummy to think that someone who has done absolutely nothing has a chance of being scum?
Okay the first line isn't even true, Hectic was voting Pine

And it isn't, but it's scummy to push them as a D1 lynch when the game doesn't even benefit lynching D1 that strongly, if at all
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #60) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:14 am

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In post 1279, Nachomamma8 wrote:currently at the point where the scumteam is exactly {Chemist, Amrun} and now that the rest of my reread will either be finding ammo for those two reads or finding places to make snarky comments while waiting for something else to jump out at me, but.......
I don't see where the read on me came from other than you not liking me defending the Pine/Asriel slots

And even if that's your issue, you still aren't putting me in a team with them
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Post Post #1339 (isolation #61) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:16 am

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In post 1309, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 963, Chemist1422 wrote:Ah alright

Hectic, I initially townread you because I liked your progression into solving.
fun fact - this isn't actually true.
chemist started reading Hectic as town roundabouts #24, at a time when Hectic hadn't done anything resembling solving.
that was explicitly me getting pocketed by him gimmick posting
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Post Post #1340 (isolation #62) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:18 am

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In post 1311, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1026, Chemist1422 wrote:My Nacho read is based on one central thing: I think they are having trouble making genuine reads. I don't like them repeatedly going "I disagree with this but Chemist is still town", it feels like them trying to justify a TMI townread, I don't like the abundance of mechanics talk, and I don't like their scum pool being mostly lurkers then them proceeding to lurk.
i disagreed with your townreads but thought you were town anyways.
you disagree with farkran's scumreads but think he's town anyways.

man that's crazy how life works right???
Difference is that I actually gave reasoning on my Farkran townread and engaged with him, neither of which you did with me

the mechanics talk attack is bullllllcrap. mechanics talk has been rampant throughout the game and a big proponent of it has been your second strongest townread Farkran. what makes mine scummy and his OK?
He was actually solving alongside it

You weren't

i don't understand why me having lurkers in my leftover pool is scummy or why my lurking after that point was scummy?
c o n t r a d i c t i o n



i don't think that this case is a case being presented by someone who is actually trying to figure out my alignment (or anyone else's, for that matter). i think that chemist needs to die by a shiny holy fire.
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #63) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:43 am

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In post 1359, Replica wrote:This........is enlightening. This has not been even remotely helpful in figuring out Chemist's alignment, but this is a man dedicated to signing up for games and posting <100 words for their entirety, a patron saint of the Laconic tradition, absolutely dedicated to winning games with the least amount of effort and words possible.

This is by far the most effort he has put into any mafia game ever, I apologize for any previous complaints, godspeed.
I’m not even gonna correct this post because it’s so well-articulated
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Post Post #1363 (isolation #64) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:56 am

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In post 1362, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1359, Replica wrote:This........is enlightening. This has not been even remotely helpful in figuring out Chemist's alignment, but this is a man dedicated to signing up for games and posting <100 words for their entirety, a patron saint of the Laconic tradition, absolutely dedicated to winning games with the least amount of effort and words possible.

This is by far the most effort he has put into any mafia game ever, I apologize for any previous complaints, godspeed.
Weird.

Chemist was the last game we played together an outlier???
What game was that
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Post Post #1375 (isolation #65) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:55 pm

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In post 1368, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1363, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 1362, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1359, Replica wrote:This........is enlightening. This has not been even remotely helpful in figuring out Chemist's alignment, but this is a man dedicated to signing up for games and posting <100 words for their entirety, a patron saint of the Laconic tradition, absolutely dedicated to winning games with the least amount of effort and words possible.

This is by far the most effort he has put into any mafia game ever, I apologize for any previous complaints, godspeed.
Weird.

Chemist was the last game we played together an outlier???
What game was that
The game where you hammered the scum that most people thought was town??
I don’t remember being that active in that game actually
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Post Post #1401 (isolation #66) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:55 pm

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In post 1396, Amrun wrote:
In post 1373, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1366, Amrun wrote:Why do you think there is scum motivation in defending the lurkers, honestly?
My initial thought was that Chemist as scum wouldn't defend the lurkers because there's no reason for him to stick his neck out for them.

My second thought is that Chemist defended the lurkers so he could sit back and take potshots at the townies pushing the lurkers and then have a place to sit after the lurkers are lynched. I think his tone is as flat and uninspiring as Ben Stein giving the State of the Union Address and I really can't find someone who I'd rather kick out of the playhouse than him.
I’m going to be honest and I hope chemist doesn’t take offense, but this seems like planning more into the future than anything I have seen chemist do up until this point in any game I have ever played with him. He is not a dumb guy but he seems to play super in-the-moment to me.
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Post Post #1471 (isolation #67) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:17 pm

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what is happening
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #68) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:39 pm

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got it
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Post Post #1478 (isolation #69) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:52 pm

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Spoiler: random stuff that stuck out
In post 292, alimdia wrote:Regarding
Asriel
, they are as afk as Pine, yet they are getting more attention that Pine. This makes me think that maybe Pine is scum here.


Regarding
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In post 340, alimdia wrote:Thinking Nacho. He posted but didn't respond to my posts.

Otherwise Pine or Asriel.

Sparing Hectic probably works because if he's scum then we kinda deserve the loss
wish I could ask alim about the lack of difference between Pine and Asriel in the second, coming after the first
In post 894, alimdia wrote:Skimmed through a lot, in the absence of a CC, would spare Suji
I'm not gonna lie this felt like a really mechanical response to the Suji situation
In post 1116, Bingle wrote:
In post 1046, Farkran wrote:snip
HURT: Hectic

I’m not going to read ISO’s and I’m sheeping you because Amrun says you logic is shit without disagreeing with any results. When the consensus seems to be “the new guy can solve the game for us!” actually pushing something is probably a town move and I don’t see signs that anyone else has done so.
Why is your default response to hurt hectic instead of Amrun or sparing Farkran?
In post 1290, Bingle wrote:
In post 1286, Nachomamma8 wrote:hey can you sheep me on either chemist or hectic?
Maybe. I feel like I can come around to Hectic town and chemist has done fuckall. I’m pretty confident that fark is town and fark is pretty confident that hec is scum though, so I’m gonna wait for a rebuttal.
that's kinda weird because you asked me one question then ignored my response


admittedly I feel like I was kinda looking for stuff to scumread because the slot had like one thing I disliked and nothing else from memory

but I wouldn't spare bingle today
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #70) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:03 pm

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I haven't seen the new movie actually
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #71) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:10 pm

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didn't it come out in 2020 or am I wrong
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Post Post #1483 (isolation #72) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:13 pm

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Actually I looked it up and Shrek came out in 2001 so
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Post Post #1485 (isolation #73) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:15 pm

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Ah
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #74) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:44 am

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In post 1489, Amrun wrote:HURT: Bingle

I think I’m already there BUT LET’s JUST BE SURE


Chemist plz
what
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Post Post #1504 (isolation #75) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:57 am

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I’d say somewhere around traitor

so basically it’s a scumread but I don’t trust myself to not be confbiasing it, and no one else have real thoughts on it
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #76) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:27 am

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In post 1503, Hectic wrote:Anything changed with regards to your Nacho/Farkran reads since then, Chemist?
Honestly not really

Nacho’s push on me didn’t give me any warm feelings and Farkran is still posting well
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #77) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:33 am

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In post 1595, Amrun wrote:
In post 1504, Chemist1422 wrote:I’d say somewhere around traitor

so basically it’s a scumread but I don’t trust myself to not be confbiasing it, and no one else have real thoughts on it

I don’t understand why this post doesn’t have a vote in it.
I don’t understand why you don’t get the implications of “I don’t feel good enough about it to commit”
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Post Post #1617 (isolation #78) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:13 pm

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In post 1615, Replica wrote:Alright, it is time to PUT THE COMPUTER AWAY and GO OUTSIDE. If I post again before Chemist/Psyche/Nacho do something noteworthy someone slap me
nothing I do is noteworthy so you might be waiting a while
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Post Post #1620 (isolation #79) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:47 pm

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In post 1618, Amrun wrote:
In post 1606, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 1595, Amrun wrote:
In post 1504, Chemist1422 wrote:I’d say somewhere around traitor

so basically it’s a scumread but I don’t trust myself to not be confbiasing it, and no one else have real thoughts on it

I don’t understand why this post doesn’t have a vote in it.
I don’t understand why you don’t get the implications of “I don’t feel good enough about it to commit”
I do get it. But realistically, where do you want the day to go? Is that end realistic? Could you compromise on a Bingle lynch to achieve something worthwhile in the game?

Can I trade you votes, or make a deal, or something? I’m trying to converse.
For me it's something like

Farkran spare > Nacho fight > Hectic spare > Bingle fight

I'm fine with probably all of these today but since last I checked we weren't under insane time pressure I'm sticking with the first two as my votes for rn
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Post Post #1655 (isolation #80) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:45 am

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I think we fight today

If we hit scum, spare tomorrow
If we hit town, fight tomorrow
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Post Post #1659 (isolation #81) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:49 am

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In post 1658, Replica wrote:
In post 1655, Chemist1422 wrote:I think we fight today

If we hit scum, spare tomorrow
If we hit town, fight tomorrow
I get the first one I'm not really sure I follow you on the second, I can see it going either way.

Also, who do you actually want to fight/where are you at atm?
Chemist
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Post Post #1759 (isolation #82) » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:03 am

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hello

I’m down to fight Bingle today I think
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Post Post #1850 (isolation #83) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:49 pm

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that’s a lotta wallposts

I’m gonna take a shower then try to reread from SoD
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #84) » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:59 pm

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why do I hear boss music

also hi I tried to catch up but it's 11 pm and I haven't finished my homework

tomorrow:tm:
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Post Post #1931 (isolation #85) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:22 pm

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I'm on many different levels of done with mafia rn and don't feel like catching up

I would honestly rather go pacifist than fight farkran rn
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #86) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:05 pm

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hello

still not feeling up for reading

I guess I can try to run some VCA?
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Post Post #1972 (isolation #87) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:12 pm

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ohhhhhkay then

okay first why is that post not TMI that I'm town
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Post Post #1974 (isolation #88) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:45 pm

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Okay

What do you need to see from me that you think I can reasonably provide
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Post Post #1977 (isolation #89) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:54 pm

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Okay

I don't really know where to start so I guess I'll just read random stuff again
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #90) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:40 am

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sorry wasn’t feeling up for it last night but I’ll start on it now
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #91) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:35 am

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In post 1988, Farkran wrote:Actually you know what

HURT: Nacho let's see what happens next.

Question to chemist: what made you change your mind from d2 hurt Nacho to d3 hurt Bingle?
No one was going for Nacho and Bingle had a better chance of going through
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Post Post #1994 (isolation #92) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:18 am

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Technically I wasn’t doing homework, I was in school

But yeah I can read through stuff now
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Post Post #1996 (isolation #93) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:12 am

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I got around to skimming Chara's ISO and like how it builds its ideas around townhunting and how it uses those to approach the game

I also think its Hectic read is genuine, especially if Hectic is town

I'm gonna reread around the D1 Sherlock/Suji situation and reactions to it now
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Post Post #1997 (isolation #94) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:19 am

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I think Farkran, Hectic, and Chara all had towny reactions to the original Sherlock post, Amrun sticking out as the one that didn't

I'll reread from the FN claim now
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #95) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:21 am

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I liked Amrun's reaction to the FN claim a lot actually

Chara's was okay, I didn't like Farkran's

I think I'm talking myself back into it being Bingle/Nacho
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Post Post #2525 (isolation #96) » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:29 am

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gg

very well played to both scum
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