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im pretty confident the hood is a masonry
never voting wake/alimSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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with the usual caveats - deathtunnel/all of us in 3p lylo but yeahSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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can someone give me a rundown of what mechanical info is public
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thank you!In post 821, Zenith wrote:There's other more role specific info out there, but here's my roleclaim along with a compilation of everyone's flavor claims:
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i was hoping the game might move a bit faster to get some 'in-action' reads, but looks like i'll have to go the game to get anywhere.
i'll start working on that tonight.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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had less time than i thought today but lets see what i can do.In post 825, Blatant Scum wrote:Xtoxm, how goes your catch up?
blatant scum - the stagnant gamestate has me leaning town here, altho this is a weak read, since town has a large majority currently
eve - why are you voting me, ostensibly for aero flaking, whilst hardcore lurking yourself? aero is the guy known for flaking every game hes ever played. it is the literal definition of NAI, and why i chose his slot to replace into. please justify yourself.
gif/mastina - neither of these slots have been townie. mastina seems to be neglecting this game specifically. i consider this wolfiest slot in the game, atm.
zenith - could see the role being scum, but claiming it the way he has kinda leashes him to using it for towns desires. +town eq. like his general legwork also. could be that scum is interested and putting effort in while town is doing nothing, but i wanna believe its the other way around. townbinning for now.
dongfish - mega deadpan face on the claim. lvl 5 stone sounds like something thats never going to fucking happen. "dont worry guys, i'll be conftown on D9! any minute now!!" not interested. would wagon.
alim/wake - town by hood. wakes bg claim is also really townie, cus he basically cant endgame with a claim like that.
suji - not getting much here. null, i guess.
gobble - i see in #720 you have me and wake as 2/3 of your poe, which im not really down with. if you were to assume the hood is all town, how would that affect your reads?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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i will also note tho, that trying to form reads from historical content is not my forte and i'm much more comfortable getting reads whilst im actually in the game, with people playing.
so if you guys could try to play little bit more than you are rn that would be cool.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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i scanned your iso.In post 832, Sujimichi wrote:
You read my posts and you truly believe there is not much that I have said? Not even enough for you to determine my alignment with some degree of accuracy?In post 831, Xtoxm wrote:suji - not getting much here. null, i guess.
tbh, you having 115 posts on the board and not giving me town feels is a little concerning.
i think its fine to not have a solid read everywhere off the bat, tho.
could you give me a shotgun readlist?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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this would be a fair evaluation, yes.In post 834, Sujimichi wrote:I do not believe you have actually read the previous content with any sense of thoroughness at current.
i'm trying to get something out with the time i have available, since atm there is just nothing going on here.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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alim thinks theres scum in the hood because she thinks that something eve said was a slip that she was scum, with someone in the hood. i find it fairly ridiculous, and dont think its likely eve was aware of the hood before it was outed.In post 838, Sujimichi wrote:I believe you have said you consider your Neighborhood a Masonry; however, alimidia did not get that sense (and in fact stated the opposite). I would like to understand why there is a discrepancy there.
why i think the hood is all town:
the thief stone closes PTs.
obviously this means scum cant talk, which is very damaging to scum.
so there has to be a trade off for this.
if there is scum in the hood, there you are fucking scum twice. that makes very little setup design sense.
if the hood is all town, the the counter balance to depriving scum of chat is also depriving town of their soft masonry.
ideal counter balance, setup wise.
i'm quite confident in this setup read.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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because we have no evidence of this?In post 840, Sujimichi wrote:Why could the Thief Stone not power up scum roles independently of the Private Thread?
as far as i can tell, powering up only happens at level 5, which seems really unlikely to ever happen.
im going to work with the info available to me, not hypotheticals that i have no evidence of.
there are many examples of games with all town hoods. i could link some if you need that to believe its possible, i guess.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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ok, having now looked at those flips i have to cede that point.
however, i feel closing scum pt vs closing all town hood is a more like-for-like setup balance
hurting scum twice and trying to balance that by giving scum a thief stone power seems clunky
pines flip also shows that his role had no benefit from thief stone, so thats 1/3 (presumably) of the team that gain nothing from that activation.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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also, just noticing that pops flip sounds a lot like what BS is claiming.
what do ppl think of that?
BS - what do you think of your role, and its relation to pops role?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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rolestopper blocks everyone else who tries to target the person that is rolestopped. the rolestopped person is still able to act themselves.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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umm...i dont see what one thing has to to with the other here, and why you think it makes my point moot?In post 845, Sujimichi wrote:Perhaps all Mafia Power Roles are all independent of the Stones (as Pine's power was independent of a Stone) which would then hinder Town (see: TiphaineDeath requirements and two claimed Town requirements from Wake88 and DongFish) with Stone-required activation whilst allowing Mafia to freely utilize their roles. This would render your private communication point moot.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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ok, well, i do think its neat setup design all the same.
independently, i tr wake for claim
and alim looks...fine? you can try to sell me on alim scum if you want.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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i look forward to it!In post 863, Eve wrote:i'll get to this soon!
thank you kindly :3Xtoxm is an improvement on aero from what i read so far - xtoxm i didn't know aero flaked every gameSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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having had some time to think about the BS claim, it does kinda feel like pops is cc him from the grave so im warming up to his lynch.
also with a vig in play you expect scum to have something to block that which rolestopper also can be used for.
he's not exactly a bastion of towniness from what i see either.
so yeah
after i get better caught up etc think im cool with thisSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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i mean yeah all of that list is things that are beneficial to scum
this reads like hes just full claiming his scum role bc he cant think of anything better to do?
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@fishy boy
if you want me to accept your claim i need a clear timeline of when its going to happen
expecting us to wait until d3 in a mini for an ic is already taking the biscuit, and from what ive it doesnt sound certain to even happen tomorrow
so..how many phases of a free pass am i expected to give you?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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a claimed unjester is equivalently an additional member of the scum team.
they have no incentive to kill you because they know you are an unjester, and that all of your abilities help scum.
you have no incentive to lynch scum because you LITERALLY NEED THEM ALIVE to satisfy your wincon.
the way townside as unjester is to make scum worried that you're a powerful town role.
you have done the opposite.
i have no sympathy for you
someone hammer this foolSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I wish I could c:
It's not that interesting tbh, mostly just wake telling us to vote for youSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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tracking your hoodmate who already told you in the hood what they're doing isnt a good trackIn post 1419, alimdia wrote:lmao all my tracks were okay but also useless at the same timeSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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i think scum could have used the strongman, and on top of that 2-3 town roles needed vanillising or heavy gating by stonesIn post 1436, gobbledygook wrote:I do think scum probably had too little power. A strongman I think balances it. It also hurts that their best role died the first night.
Good game everyone!
i thought you personally played well on later days gobble and logicking out the eve's deathproof connection to thief stone was good workSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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