Mini 2131: Furret's Bizzare Adventure Part 2 (over)

[Datisi]

let's all VOTE: Melanque for a

melancholic

D1 lynch!

[Datisi]

Bajungle, what's our strategy for the game?

[Datisi]

ok

ELECT: Datisi

[Datisi]

oh fuck mena rolled scum *again*

[Datisi]

i will not be a deputy to scum

[Datisi]

then vote me you coward

[Datisi]

i am unironically worried but ok

[Datisi]

...yes?

[Datisi]

btw Melan, how come you didn't respond to my RVS?

[Datisi]

Also,

pls spell my name right

that was actually the whole point

hmm

Hmm

[Datisi]

may i recommend a slightly different approach:

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[vote]melanque[/vote]

[Datisi]

......yes?

[Datisi]

vote me you coward

[Datisi]

......yes?

That was a horrible pagetop and you should be ashamed.

admit it, you are just jealous.

[Datisi]

i'm thinking PP is town purely on the fact that he feels different than the only game i played w him where he was scum. yay.

[Datisi]

my page 4 pagetop will be the key to town's victory this game.

[Datisi]

Y'all are electing scum but ok

[Datisi]

My Page 4 pagetop is just fine, thank you.

[Datisi]

Gut/awkwardness/somewhat-aimless-memery/i am not feeling ~town mena~

[Datisi]

bad reads

Pedit: ehhhh
I am kinda more worried about the psychological effect putting him in the ~high position~ will have if he's scum than the actual mechanical outcomes of it frankly

Ppedit: cool, and same

[Datisi]

Noted. I don't care much for MS authority, particularly males who act holier than though. Menalque gets no special favors.

Now, why did you tunnel on him so early? Why not sit back, scum hunt, and let him show you who his partners are?

I genuinely have no clue what that means but alrighty

The longer i wait, potentially more ~thread control~ he gets. And I am not very good at convincing people. I'd rather start early.

Plus, I was curious on his reactions to all this.

[Datisi]

Plus, I was curious on his reactions to all this.

To add to this, because I see he's still ignoring me... Yeah.

[Datisi]

I see he's still ignoring me...

[Datisi]

I’ll talk to you when you stop tunnelling me?

Why? Do you think my reasoning is ill-willed?

[Datisi]

I think your reasoning is boring but not particularly AI yet

Is literally all you got out of that whole thing is it being "NAI"?

[Datisi]

Ok.

[Datisi]

You actually seeming to be arguing I’m scum is slightly +scum

Explain.

[Datisi]

You actually seeming to be arguing I’m scum is slightly +scum

Explain.

Gut/awkwardness/somewhat-aimless-memery/i am not feeling ~town mena~

This is a bad post if serious

I don't see it cheif

[Datisi]

I haven’t been awkward and somewhat-aimless-memery is very NAI for me

Also if serious your read is too strong for like 6 pages in

You felt awkward to me

And last game i thought you were feeling awkward by page 3 but i decided to ignore it because "it's only page three and my reads are shit anyway"

We saw how that turned out

[Datisi]

imagine going to sleep at 1:30am

[Datisi]

why is turkey scum?

[Datisi]

so.... what's your actual read on me then?

[Datisi]

EVERYBODY IS TOWN

pack it up bois we solved the game

vote: no conspiracy

[Datisi]

so.... what's your actual read on me then?

I just reread you in ISO along with reading everyone else in ISO

You’re town I think

Still don’t really love the whole “mena is scum” angle actually being pushed

but idk you just seem tonally right this game

again
that makes me scum why?
you know how scum!me deals with town!you
a bullet to the brain

unless your argument is that i'm specifically going for wifom this game but then you say i'm feeling ~tonally right~ and i know you prance around saying i'm an ez ez read

so like

what is it?

[Datisi]

also if you Didn't Really Love me pushing scum!mena angle, and *two* people expressed a TR on me for that (despite not agreeing), would you not like... say anything to that?

[Datisi]

again
that makes me scum why?

I mean, I just called you town...

But it makes you scummy it’s a bad argument that you’ve been making for scum!me?

you "called" me town but you obviously didn't like That Part

I'm asking what That Part is scum indicative?

[Datisi]

also if you Didn't Really Love me pushing scum!mena angle, and *two* people expressed a TR on me for that (despite not agreeing), would you not like... say anything to that?

Who expressed the town reads on you for that?

I don't know if I really agree with Datisi's take on Mena (Mostly because I don't get it yet) but I like the stance regardless.

I don't know if I really agree with Datisi's take on Mena (Mostly because I don't get it yet) but I like the stance regardless.

I hate the stance, but like Datisi.

if these are not Actually TRs and i'm dum, correct me, it has been a while since i've slept properly

[Datisi]

again
that makes me scum why?

I mean, I just called you town...

But it makes you scummy it’s a bad argument that you’ve been making for scum!me?

you "called" me town but you obviously didn't like That Part

I'm asking what That Part is scum indicative?

Did you like

Read the entirety of the post you quoted here?

ok imma spell it out for u bb

i like disagree that they're bad arguments i guess?
- like i'm p sure you often said that i'm easy to read on tone and i do feel my tone has been Very Town this game yet you seemed to ignore it earlier?
- when people awarded me a TR for something you didn't like you didn't bother saying anything about it?
- you were saying my push is scum!indicative when (1) that's very off my scummeta and you would probably be able to detect if that were the case? (2) i just lost against scum!you so if i thought you were scum why would i not latch onto it early? also (3) you were like ignoring my posts and "i'll talk to you when you stop tunneling" and i think town!you would be more likely to like *talk* to me and either a) try to see that i'm town or b) try to get scum!me to spew associates and instead you go the ignore route spampost in thread instead route which kinda feels like you were trying to just shut me down?

[Datisi]

I think at the very least it is a town read from PP, which is interesting because Menalque also townreads PP so you’d think Menalque would want to engage PP on this point about you

It’s also interesting that Menalque townreads Gamma despite Gamma supporting my question to him

i don't like these weird jabs

what's your read on mena rn?

[Datisi]

i like disagree that they're bad arguments i guess?
- like i'm p sure you often said that i'm easy to read on tone and i do feel my tone has been Very Town this game yet you seemed to ignore it earlier?
- when people awarded me a TR for something you didn't like you didn't bother saying anything about it?
- you were saying my push is scum!indicative when (1) that's very off my scummeta and you would probably be able to detect if that were the case? (2) i just lost against scum!you so if i thought you were scum why would i not latch onto it early? also (3) you were like ignoring my posts and "i'll talk to you when you stop tunneling" and i think town!you would be more likely to like *talk* to me and either a) try to see that i'm town or b) try to get scum!me to spew associates and instead you go the ignore route spampost in thread instead route which kinda feels like you were trying to just shut me down?

(1) idk, I guess I was waiting

(2) I mean I’m p sure only Maria was TRing you for something I didn’t like and I’m historically terrible at reading Maria. The Captain was saying he TR you in spite of a bad stance afaict

(3) i don’t think I’d done anything that could be reasonably seen as scummy given my general scumplay and so I put it down to you being meme-y or tunnelling me out of paranoia, which in the first case I was going along with by just continuing my push for market leader and in the second it’s boring so was waiting for the right time

(1) waiting for...? ?? ???

(2) ok. but you still don't even ~mention~ it?

(3) i don't think i have a respone other than "that does not feel like town!mena" and i know that sentence by itself is worthless and that is annoying me

[Datisi]

So like I think Menalque is town but this push on me gives me very little faith in his potential market place strategies so I shall continue my grass roots movement against the TNC’s swampy de facto choice

what

what??

mena is town but his push on you being scum is giving you little faith on him being able to run the market place? the hell's the connection there?

[Datisi]

Gamma is the only one in my town group who has done stuff I don’t think scum would do so far tho.

also help me out what are those?

[Datisi]

(3) i don't think i have a respone other than "that does not feel like town!mena" and i know that sentence by itself is worthless and that is annoying me

okay maybe
you think me tunnelling you "out of paranoia" is boring so you kinda just leave it there and ignore it and potentially let it escalate? even tho knowing a potentially TvT fight would be Very Bad? while thinking i was scummy for actually pushing/tunneling you?

[Datisi]

also for the record this convo between mena and turkey feels Unnatural and I Don't Like It

[Datisi]

I'm good with my current vote

[Datisi]

(2) yeah, why is this a big thing?

Because "i think datisi doing X is scum!indicative" and "these people think datisi doing X is town!indicative" kinda leads to the conclusion of "let's talk about it" and that didn't happen and I'm worried???

[Datisi]

I don't know
I want you to like respond to me and make me think you're town but your replies are not exactly doing that

So i guess i want other people to chime in? Tell me if I'm crazy?

[Datisi]

think Mena’s push is something he earnestly believes even though it is wrong. His is push also surface level.

This is a hatchet btw

What does a hatchet mean in this context?

[Datisi]

Basing things off one game from before isn’t really a good idea imo. If this is the main point of your scumread I’d take a step back and reconsider. Honestly I know me and Mena butt heads a lot. So I wanna hear a little more and flesh this out a bit. (At least as much as you can in 2 days woo bliz games)

It's based off multiple games, but ok. I can chill on it for a bit if it would help you.

[Datisi]

Okay let me spell this out for everyone. Any point that goes like
‘You should tr me because I fit my meta/tone etc.’ Is awful and should never be a factor in any kind of read. A) This is a stupidly easy thing for scum to use as an excuse B) People always view themselves as more ‘obvious’ than others. You can think you’re playing the greatest obvious town game of your life and people can still scumread you. That doesn’t make someone scum, you’re just not self aware.

For some rando who is playing with me the first or second time? Yes i wholeheartedly agree.

For someone who I have a long history with, who keeps claiming they're great at reading me and my tone, who explicitly said that as scum they'd be "unsure" and "waffling" around reading me while as town would approach me in a more direct and "i don't care how i look" manner and whose described behavior has matched their town and scum games? Sorry, I'm going to use the argument.

[Datisi]

Datisi, what is your read on Gamma Emerald?

nothing

i looked at the post mena quoted as towny and i Don't See It but at the current time i'm unsure if it's becasue i actually don't find it convincing or because i'm so sleep deprived i'm unable to process it

nothing that he's posted jumps at me one way or the other

[Datisi]

A read on Mena so far, Gamma?

[Datisi]

So his entire read on me is based off one post. And that’s somehow okay with people.

And why is that okay with

you

?

[Datisi]

A funny voice in my mind is telling me that mena/gobble is pure theatre and i don't know how to feel about it.

[Datisi]

I like Maria for unexplainable reasons

No opinion on Ginnie rn

[Datisi]

A funny voice in my mind is telling me that mena/gobble is pure theatre and i don't know how to feel about it.

I hope it’s not
Who would you propose as market owner, then?

My vote is already there

[Datisi]

oh no my reads got called trash oh nooooo

[Datisi]

Elect: Datisi

Gamma, when I flip town, what is your opinion of Menalque?

I would probably scumread him because his read progression on Datisi is kinda squirmy.

But not because his read on me is so clearly trash
What a slap in the face towards me

Oh, 373 was a response to 372? I thought it was an addition to 371 mb

[Datisi]

I am interested in hearing about those SRs PB

[Datisi]

Datisi's tunnel looks fake, trying to look town because only town tunnels right boys?

Damn, I was hoping it was a bit more interesting.

[Datisi]

And what has Pine done that he's probably town?

[Datisi]

Lmao this is getting spicy

Mena, thoughts on PB?

[Datisi]

So his entire read on me is based off one post. And that’s somehow okay with people.

Like a jury still convicts a murder off one piece of evidence when the evidence is video footage of him doing the murder he’s accused of

As I said earlier, the post you are using is nowhere near the equivalent of direct evidence of someone commiting a crime. Your continued attempts to push this narrative are either scum indicative or my appreciation for your skill as a player has found a new floor.

this entire conversation reads so fake

PB if you could tell me how you're townreading *both* of these i'd love to hear it because atp i am actually gonna get tunnelled

[Datisi]

I like Maria for unexplainable reasons

No opinion on Ginnie rn

I’m a stoner now so peace bro

But if I’m mad and can’t understand something it ugly

sorry what

[Datisi]

So his entire read on me is based off one post. And that’s somehow okay with people.

Like a jury still convicts a murder off one piece of evidence when the evidence is video footage of him doing the murder he’s accused of

As I said earlier, the post you are using is nowhere near the equivalent of direct evidence of someone commiting a crime. Your continued attempts to push this narrative are either scum indicative or my appreciation for your skill as a player has found a new floor.

this entire conversation reads so fake

PB if you could tell me how you're townreading *both* of these i'd love to hear it because atp i am actually gonna get tunnelled

If you think the conversation is fake you think they're both scum, right?

So no chance only one of them is scum and the other town? If not, then if I read the conversation as genuine, the best conclusion would be that they're both town, right?

i'm not saying there's not chance they're TvS? i am fully aware that i should probably never declare something as no chance on day 1 because my reads usually aren't The Greatest

but ye for now that's the vibe i'm getting on their posts

and i guess it depends on what you define as fake vs genuine? bc i kinda see fake = theatre and genuine = anything other than SvS

if you think they're *both* being genuine then i guess it makes sense but i don't see it so if you could give me a tldr or really anything to help me see it i'd appreciate it?

[Datisi]

Gobble vote on datsi good vote for leader

Is datsi a good leader i need to talk to you what’s going on cuz i haven’t studied the mechanics

So far
Town:Datsi, MEL
Not Town: everyone else

i find it entertaining how you managed to misspell both my and mena's names

do you need to talk to me?

[Datisi]

i'm not saying there's not chance they're TvS? i am fully aware that i should probably never declare something as no chance on day 1 because my reads usually aren't The Greatest

but ye for now that's the vibe i'm getting on their posts

and i guess it depends on what you define as fake vs genuine? bc i kinda see fake = theatre and genuine = anything other than SvS

if you think they're *both* being genuine then i guess it makes sense but i don't see it so if you could give me a tldr or really anything to help me see it i'd appreciate it?

Mena exposed himself big time since the begining of the game and I don't expect him to do that RIGHT in the begining as scum because of the playerlist and I think that scum would try to *react* to what's going on with the market owner instead of pushing an agenda with no content at all.

gobble is because of how his wagon formed, because his dispute with Mena seems genuine because he didn't want Mena as market owner but didn't call Mena scum, just thought he would be a better market owner than Mena, there's no agenda in there either other than ego maybe.

ok. i really don't see either read right now, might look over it tomorrow. thank you.

[Datisi]

PB, why is Bengule town? Also what was townreading Pine about?

[Datisi]

Bingle is town 'cause the first thing he did when he came here was setup spec and went for the correct town play which is proposing Titus as market owner. No matter if Titus is town or scum, it's the correct play from a hard setup spec player.

Even though pretty much the first thing i did when entering the game was ask him to setup specc?

[Datisi]

fwiw, i'm at least somewhat aware of titus's play despite us never having played together. also would support titus campaign if need be.

[Datisi]

Why people wanna hang PB?

[Datisi]

elect: Titus

[Datisi]

is there anything special that you will do that cannot be done by someone else who you believe to be town?

[Datisi]

we've already lost, haven't we

[Datisi]

yes, but she's town, so.

[Datisi]

yes, but she's town, so.

I am also town, so

[Datisi]

why would you bid as much on neighborizer of all things

[Datisi]

Alacrity, mind telling me why the PB SR?

[Datisi]

> Lynches are based on plurality.

doesn't this mean there are no L-1 and hammers?

[Datisi]

-Gobble vs Mena starting to really look like a mutual bus ploy.

holy shit
someone else sees it

[Datisi]

PP, what is your opinion on the possible mutual bus ploy here then?

[Datisi]

where did pine go i liked pine

[Datisi]

i feel like i'm losing steam and i wanna be productive

ama

[Datisi]

lynches are based on pluralty, it's fine.

[Datisi]

well, i mean, yeah, she's not the one that would get lynched. i'm just saying there won't be a no lynch.

[Datisi]

not particularly, no.

i'm around until deadline. whoever convinces me why another vote is better than my current one will probably be rewarded with that vote. let's roll.

[Datisi]

gobble or PB, not quite sure.

[Datisi]

To top it off I’m pretty sure no one is townreading MariaR which is exactly where a buddy would put her in if on her team

what does this mean?

also ye her ISO is pretty coasting. call me if yall need a tiebreaker.

[Datisi]

We'll Mena looked town and its easier to find town than it is to find scum.

So mena looking town and a rising star badge, now I believe thats a pretty good person to bounce off of.

ok hear me out

no

[Datisi]

Why?

[Datisi]

Sigh.

[Datisi]

What, because he SRs you?

[Datisi]

What do you think of Alacrity?

[Datisi]

Datisi are you still vote parking me lmao

Yes.

[Datisi]

I'm already voting scum.

I guess I can vote for someone who might get lynched though. VOTE: Maria

[Datisi]

Do you wanna try PB again then?

[Datisi]

Yknow what I dig that

VOTE: Alyssa

[Datisi]

maria's not even the top wagon anymore lmao

[Datisi]

VOTE: Menalque

[Datisi]

half of you got recruited to this game by me because I want to play with you.

cries in was not recruited by pine

[Datisi]

I've been suspicious of Mena since my interactions with him so if you guys want to lynch him now I'll totally join

He wants to get rid of Pine and didn't stand for me when he could. He doesn't want us in mid game 'cause he know we are a threat. Mena is scum yeah yeah yeah

is this serious?

[Datisi]

Good job Datisi you may be town after all

thanks, glad you noticed.

[Datisi]

Gamma you're not voting at all though?

[Datisi]

whyyy

[Datisi]

If someone is pushing you it does not make them invalid

It does not make them 'bad'

It does not mean you should ignore them. Like, none of you are rookies here and the fact I need to explain this is truly blowing my mind

DO YOU SEE A QUOTE TO GODDLE HERE? NO?

MAYBE BECAUSE THIS WASN'T DIRECTED AT HIM. HMMMMMM

*Facedesk*

Who was it directed at then?
And why didn’t you respond to this the first time, instead of trying to shade them as trap questions?

It literality is a trap question that's not shading, it's a fact. This was implied mostly at Mena but more as a general statement because I saw people going: 'X is pushing me so they're bad or we shouldn't listen to them' that is shitty logic.

I already told you why I didn't answer the first time: I don't answer trap questions and I was catching up in real time

I did a crtl f search of Menalque's iso and the words "invalid" and "bad" do not show up once before you made these statements.

Just because I used the words bad and invalid doesn't take away from my point

I mean it does.
I’m accusing you of making up crap. I think those questions were directed at me. But now you say they aren’t I can see anything in Menalque’s iso that would make you think he framed Datisi’s push on him bad or invalid.

Datisi, did Menalque ever make references to you being bad or invalid?

i don't know? don't think so? he called me scummy and boring i guess?

i've been skimming yall's posts, are you two arguing over semantics?

[Datisi]

holy shit the whole time i've been thinking ties are resolved based on seniority and they're randomized?

[Datisi]

Mafia is hell

[Datisi]

ftr i hate literally everything about the last hour

[Datisi]

Titus?

[Datisi]

wasn't PB pushing for Maria quite a bit yesterday?

[Datisi]

you're correct, I'm not scum.

[Datisi]

Spoiler:

VOTE: MariaR

Decide between this and Alyssa or die

Pb is suspect of Mena for awhile but was on the person who is actively trying for his lynch? (Pine)

This is what we call opportunistic wagon hops and he's just trying to get a lynch going. Or fake reads either work

And this is how scum reacts

Good job Datisi you may be town after all

Maria and Gamma are both scum, Datisi I'm giving him a pass, but I'm 100% sure they're both scum

VOTE: MariaR

OMGUS

And that goes perfect with my three scumreads: Datisi, Gamma and Maria!

Solved game guys.

Maria I have nothing it's just a cool thing to call her scum at the begining of the game (also because she was being nice and I think she's nicer as scum hehehehe don't hate me Maria I know you actually love Silver Bullet)

My issue with PB is that he’s on Gamma and Datisi (mostly Gamma) all day then once Maria/Pine become wagons they’re right in his lynch order

Feels opportunistic

I was the first one to say Maria was scum, Chemist. Your read is awful, at least make it fun

Good to know Alacrity was you Alyssa, I thought it could be RC and I thought it was scum!RC and I have no energy for that. Know I get your vote too and that's nice, one less player for my PoE

Gamma, Maria, Pine, Datisi, that's my lynch order.

VOTE: MariaR

Before you guys try to do a last minute lynch on Pine

(the quotes are in reverse order because i fked up multiquoting)

does this look like a bus?

[Datisi]

and he ended up on Gamma too, which is just??? as scum???

[Datisi]

Elaborate?

[Datisi]

Datisi what is your read on me?

I'm still not getting any good vibes from the "early" part of Day 1. Yours on me?

[Datisi]

i'm listening

[Datisi]

VOTE: mena

yawn

[Datisi]

gobbles, you told us why those posts are scum!indicative for PB yet?

[Datisi]

it's not. i was hoping it would poke you into answering me.

[Datisi]

gobbles, you told us why those posts are scum!indicative for PB yet?

They are pretty self explanatory, so uh... want to tell me why those are town indicative?

idk, he was voting a person that flipped scum? eli5 please

[Datisi]

it's not. i was hoping it would poke you into answering me.

Answer you on what? I already did answer you

considering it. what are you considering? what are you considering about? like? idk talk to me?

[Datisi]

(3) i don't think i have a respone other than "that does not feel like town!mena" and i know that sentence by itself is worthless and that is annoying me

okay maybe
you think me tunnelling you "out of paranoia" is boring so you kinda just leave it there and ignore it and potentially let it escalate? even tho knowing a potentially TvT fight would be Very Bad? while thinking i was scummy for actually pushing/tunneling you?

do these seem like ??? reasons to you? like, you ignoring me earlier and trying to shut me out is ??? ?

[Datisi]

PB, can you try to look at it from my perspective? I'm trying to work with Mena. Instead I'm getting told that I'm SRing him for "???" reasons, which once I lay them out again I get ignored. I press forward again, I get called lazy and get threatened with a policy. How am I supposed to see that as Town "struggling to trust me" as opposed to scum trying to start a fight he knows he's going to win?

wrt your point on Maria, I didn't think Maria was scum, I didn't think she was Town. The wagon composition was ~fine enough~. I always preferred Mena.

[Datisi]

i'm not trying to save my own ass, i'm trying to solve the game.

[Datisi]

what exactly are you reffering to?

[Datisi]

i'm not trying to save my own ass, i'm trying to solve the game.

But you were talking about my arguments on the possibility of you being scum.

If you wanna solve the game talk about the rest of the playerlist.

You're townreading me right? What do you think about my read on Gamma?

Only partially correct. The point wasn't "please don't kill me, PB", the point was "can you consider why i think that the person you keep calling obvtown might not be town?"

I think the read is fine? As if i don't think you're scum for it? But frankly with what, 20 pages happening in a few hours a lot has gone over my head. I'm not especially SRing Gamma, but I guess his D2 hasn't been great. I'll look at his ISO again once I'm at my laptop.

[Datisi]

Gobble and Mena has at most one scum. Likely 0.

I think i agree with this right now. Gobble is most likely town.

[Datisi]

Datisi do you think scum menalque ends the day the way he did? Very different to how MariaR ended the day wouldn't you say?

The fact that Menalque gave his final impression and talked about the possibility that both he and MariaR were town

As far as i remember, Maria kept outright calling Mena Town?

[Datisi]

Ye, Mena did more than her, I'll give you that. I still think that it's a NAI thing though. Idk. I'm struggling to look past his play around me.

[Datisi]

Ye, Mena did more than her, I'll give you that. I still think that it's a NAI thing though. Idk. I'm struggling to look past his play around me.

What did you think of his play around MariaR?
I would be willing to work with you on this read, but I feel like you're stuck in a rut when it comes to Mena. You're solely focusing on his early Day 1 stuff.

What play? He pretty much kept calling for Pine's head and outiright said he didn't think Maria was scum and voted when it was obvious it was one of them. That supposed to townspew him?

And no. I'm not. Him calling me lazy and threatening a policy happened on Day 2.

[Datisi]

Why are you still refusing to acknowledge why I'm suspicious of you? Why are you refusing to try to talk to me?

[Datisi]

(3) i don't think i have a respone other than "that does not feel like town!mena" and i know that sentence by itself is worthless and that is annoying me

okay maybe
you think me tunnelling you "out of paranoia" is boring so you kinda just leave it there and ignore it and potentially let it escalate? even tho knowing a potentially TvT fight would be Very Bad? while thinking i was scummy for actually pushing/tunneling you?

do these seem like ??? reasons to you? like, you ignoring me earlier and trying to shut me out is ??? ?

Please acknowledge this post and tell me if you GENUINELY believe i should not feel like this.

[Datisi]

Whenever I try to talk, I get called lazy and get threatened with a policy. Like genuinely what am I supposed to think.

Pedit: do you really believe those are??? Reasons?

[Datisi]

Like, literally the only conclusion i can get out of you doing that shit is: You're not trying to sort me. You're avoiding calling me scum because it's gonna look bad once you force my flip and it's green, but you're avoiding calling me town because otherwise you can't policy me through.

Pedit: i can feel when we actually vibe. I didn't feel it at all this game. And why would town you like, not even try to convince me otherwise? Or try to sort me at least? Instead just keep memeing and ignoring me?

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Ye, it was my fault for not making sure my read was known tk be serious, I'll give you that.

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I know, that's what scares me.

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So seriously what exactly was there in my early posts that has given you such a strong scumread on me that it was worth tunnelling for an entire day phase for

I just didn't feel a good vibe. Literally every time we've been town together i felt a Good Vibe. And it wasn't there.

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Is this seriously pissing you off?

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You then leveraging that into a stronger scumread was just more disincentive to engage with you

Why?

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I genuinely want to believe you'd give me the benefit of the doubt and try to sort me / make me change my mind / make me spew shit if I'm scum but whatever. I don't have the energy for this right now. UNVOTE:

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If he's annoyed at being "shitpushed", maybe he'll actually talk to me if I unvote.

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Maybe I go back in the tunnel, maybe I find someone else to be scummier, maybe I start asking to be hanged if I'm really done with it. The future is full of possibilities.

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4

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I am only moderately scared

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But like the Mena wagon at EoD yesterday was trash, why are you overlooking that?

i mean. PP was voting there until the last second, and I was TRing him. Maria was forced to vote there bc CW. and I kinda don't SR either Pine or Ginnie ig?

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@ali i unvoted earlier

fixed -ali

If I was scum I’d just insist her tunnel was bc she’s scum and doesn’t know how to pretend to sort me, force her lynch through and then argue that it makes me town bc I took a hard stance on her and me being wrong was just indicative of me being uninformed

also i like
am sorta believing this

can someone give me tldr for chem (other than elitell) i don't feel too much like scrolling isos rn

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gobble it was two pages ago you fucking lied to me

also uhhh

VOTE: chemist

pedit: gobble there are no hammers in this game

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mena i remember hearing you say chemist is an easy read for you, you think he's scum?

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mena i remember hearing you say chemist is an easy read for you, you think he's scum?

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mena i remember hearing you say chemist is an easy read for you, you think he's scum?

I don’t think he’s town less than I think he’s scum

Idk I think I’m partly having a universal crisis of read confidence atm

this changed at all?

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brb chekcing 9:12

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ok so i didn't find anything ~incriminating~ but anyway i not have a very bad gut feeling about the chemist vote and i get it because i kinda also felt demotivated after the flip but i also on't have enough confidence to even try to push anything else through so ahahahaahh

UNVOTE:

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i have no fucking clue what's going on in this game anymore and i like pretending my problems don't exist whats up

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i saw it that's why i unvoted you

it'd be a lie saying i don't see it but also my reads feel nonexistant this game

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hello i hate both of these wagons someone end me please

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right here