Mini 2131: Furret's Bizzare Adventure Part 2 (over)

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Why are you asking him

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elect: Menalque

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I will be a just and glorious leader of this market folks

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Btw...you may all refer to me as Captain or The Captain for this game. Pls and thx.

Aye aye, Captain.

Is abbreviating to Cap’n acceptable?

Also, elect me?

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No one should bid for anything unless it’s like a 1 dollar bid so scum don’t know what they have to bid for final bid

I already bid all my money

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No one should bid for anything unless it’s like a 1 dollar bid so scum don’t know what they have to bid for final bid

I already bid all my money

Nice

That’s right, allllll 800 dollars

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Absolutely not. It is Captain or The Captain. I am not a cereal.

Understood, The Captain.

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Turkey, elect me leader of this fine market!

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oh fuck mena rolled scum *again*

<.<

>.>

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Datisi give up your doomed electoral campaign and elect me and you can be my deputy

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Turkey town

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Glorious! Glorious glorious glorious

Here are my reads

Locktown:

Turkey
The Captain

Null pending on ~*something*~:

Ginngie

Lockscum:

Datisi

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In a deeply confusing command structure, The Captain is the official deputy leader of the market despite being Captain of the game overall

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then vote me you coward

I’ll bankrupt your campaign first

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U should be, bankruptcy is a serious economic condition in these trying economic times

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That’s one fast furret

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It’s a relief to hear you’ll be staying on as my deputy, Captain

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Btw gobbles, why did you rvs ginngie?

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Wish I was stoned

@dats idk I appreciated it but didn’t think it necessarily needed comment

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Also,

pls spell my name right

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Acceptable

Maria, we’ve decided on the first 65 posts that I will make an excellent glorious leader for the market

Please confirm that you are town by copy and pasting this code:

Code: Select all

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Btw gobbles, why did you rvs ginngie?

I thought it was interesting Ginngie voted someone not in the game.

Interesting how?

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Locktown:

Turkey
The Captain
MariaR

Null pending ~*stuff*~:
Ginngie

Lockscum:
Datisi

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As long as we put the daykill in the market so I can spend all my money without a second thought that's all I care about.

I will be a market leader receptive to the suggestions of the fine folk in this town as to what goods and wares are needed

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Now

that’s

what I call a pagetop

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VOTE: MariaR
Worst attempt for the daykill imo

Elect: Titus

I think for now I can trust this one? FYI Menalque if you played into the same behavior from Mainstream Mafia II I would have been swayed to elect you.

Allow me to run through some of the elements of my platform before I’m forced to lockscum you for trying to crash the market, gamma

(1) I will be a democratic market leader, and one of the things I increase the odds of appearing will be democratically chosen by the PL
(2) maximum memery — I will select among the others for maximum levels of memeing during the game for the fun of all involved
(3) sound financial advice to all voters (freebie: get your money into PenguinPower Inc. they’re hot right now)
(4) benevolence and wisdom will be dispensed throughout the thread

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Nah, although that is very much in line with how I crumb so kudos for picking up on it, Captain

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How town is gobble

VOTE: Gingie

Hmm?

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VOTE: MariaR
Worst attempt for the daykill imo

Elect: Titus

I think for now I can trust this one? FYI Menalque if you played into the same behavior from Mainstream Mafia II I would have been swayed to elect you.

Allow me to run through some of the elements of my platform before I’m forced to lockscum you for trying to crash the market, gamma

(1) I will be a democratic market leader, and one of the things I increase the odds of appearing will be democratically chosen by the PL
(2) maximum memery — I will select among the others for maximum levels of memeing during the game for the fun of all involved
(3) sound financial advice to all voters (freebie: get your money into PenguinPower Inc. they’re hot right now)
(4) benevolence and wisdom will be dispensed throughout the thread

Do you swear to use your own judgement exclusively when deliberating on market options? I don’t want a leader who can be coerced into dangerous trade deals.

Listen sir, I mean what I say when I tell you that I’ll say whatever I have to to secure your vote, because that’s the kind of politician I am! So if that’s what you need to hear me say, then say it

I will

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particularly males who act holier than though

I would never

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Menalque what is going to be your strategy as Auction Owner

Please refer to point (2) in my manifesto

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Put another way: maximum fun within the realms of not scumsiding the game

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I’ll talk to you when you stop tunnelling me?

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Also I don’t really wanna start giving reads yet because I think something that has semi-consistently fucked me is trying to get my reads while multiple slots are inactive and then scumreading town bc they were there and I was looking for X scum

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I think there are very real strategies auction owner could have. Memetic fun is one such strategy!

I mean those strategies become significantly less useful if outed and scum can plan around them

If people don’t think I’m town or think I’ll scumside the pool, don’t elect me

If you think I’ll pick fun options that will be reasonably townsided, do

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I think your reasoning is boring but not particularly AI yet

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I have exactly (1) moderate read so far but don’t want to out it yet

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I think your reasoning is boring but not particularly AI yet

Is literally all you got out of that whole thing is it being "NAI"?

Yeh

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Ehh it’s less that you’ve done nothing AI at all and more you’ve done things that are AI but for both alignments and they’re all weak enough that I don’t have any confidence sorting you off those yet

You being paranoid of me is slightly +town

You actually seeming to be arguing I’m scum is slightly +scum

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Alacrity is outed but presumably wants to play as anon or they’d be on their main

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You actually seeming to be arguing I’m scum is slightly +scum

Explain.

Gut/awkwardness/somewhat-aimless-memery/i am not feeling ~town mena~

This is a bad post if serious

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I haven’t been awkward and somewhat-aimless-memery is very NAI for me

Also if serious your read is too strong for like 6 pages in

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VOTE: turkey

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No, you’re the scumread I mentioned earlier and you shifting to trying to get yourself elected means I’m now willing to lynch you

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I think his argument for voting ginngie is a scum argument and I think he was fishing re: “market leader strategies”

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Incidentally

Gamma
PP
Titus
Datisi
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Chem
Ginngie
Pure boi
MariaR
Bingle
Alacrity
Pine

Turkey

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Oh for fucksake

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Incidentally

Gamma
PP
Titus
Datisi

Chem
Ginngie
Pure boi
MariaR
Bingle
Alacrity
Pine

Turkey

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fishing for what

Like just for what they’re going to do/optimise for which is what scum would like to know if the market leader is town so they can plan around it

Like if I said “I’m likely to go for soft invests” scum can start thinking about having a deepwolf who’s less likely to be tracked do the kill

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so.... what's your actual read on me then?

I just reread you in ISO along with reading everyone else in ISO

You’re town I think

Still don’t really love the whole “mena is scum” angle actually being pushed but idk you just seem tonally right this game

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Gamma is the only one in my town group who has done stuff I don’t think scum would do so far tho. Titus just seems town, and I’m tone reading you and the Captain

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Because “X is RVSing someone out of the game to avoid associatives

in RVS

” is really unlikely and an argument I’ve literally seen scum make before. It’s like looking for a need to justify your vote when there wasn’t one, and painting a very NAI action as scummy

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that makes me scum why?

I mean, I just called you town...

But it makes you scummy it’s a bad argument that you’ve been making for scum!me?

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Because “X is RVSing someone out of the game to avoid associatives

in RVS

” is really unlikely and an argument I’ve literally seen scum make before. It’s like looking for a need to justify your vote when there wasn’t one, and painting a very NAI action as scummy

Ok. Why would I as scum want to substantiate an RVS vote? Why wouldn’t I just say RVS?

This is just WIFOM thinking

Why would town!you want to substantiate an RVS vote

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also if you Didn't Really Love me pushing scum!mena angle, and *two* people expressed a TR on me for that (despite not agreeing), would you not like... say anything to that?

Apparently not

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that makes me scum why?

I mean, I just called you town...

But it makes you scummy it’s a bad argument that you’ve been making for scum!me?

you "called" me town but you obviously didn't like That Part

I'm asking what That Part is scum indicative?

Did you like

Read the entirety of the post you quoted here?

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Turkey I don’t think town!you sits there and goes “yeah, ginngie is trying to avoid associatives with that meme vote for current cultural icon Carole Baskins, he’s more likely scum for that, I’m gonna vote him for it”

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I also lowkey don’t think that if you genuinely thought it was scummy you’d then completely ignore it going on and not try to do any actual sorting of ginngie

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Okay

VOTE: turkey

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I also lowkey don’t think that if you genuinely thought it was scummy you’d then completely ignore it going on and not try to do any actual sorting of ginngie

This site has been lagging and Gingie hasn’t been here to do any sorting soo

You haven’t tried tho

Like I prefer sorting in real time too but you didn’t even leave a message for him or try to get him to engage with the gamestate more deeply

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How town is gobble

So town

Is this a prelude to an omgus vote

Like this was your only ginngie engagement after your vote, if you thought they were actually scummy why were you just memeing with them?

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again
that makes me scum why?

I mean, I just called you town...

But it makes you scummy it’s a bad argument that you’ve been making for scum!me?

you "called" me town but you obviously didn't like That Part

I'm asking what That Part is scum indicative?

Did you like

Read the entirety of the post you quoted here?

ok imma spell it out for u bb

i like disagree that they're bad arguments i guess?
- like i'm p sure you often said that i'm easy to read on tone and i do feel my tone has been Very Town this game yet you seemed to ignore it earlier?
- when people awarded me a TR for something you didn't like you didn't bother saying anything about it?
- you were saying my push is scum!indicative when (1) that's very off my scummeta and you would probably be able to detect if that were the case? (2) i just lost against scum!you so if i thought you were scum why would i not latch onto it early? also (3) you were like ignoring my posts and "i'll talk to you when you stop tunneling" and i think town!you would be more likely to like *talk* to me and either a) try to see that i'm town or b) try to get scum!me to spew associates and instead you go the ignore route spampost in thread instead route which kinda feels like you were trying to just shut me down?

(1) idk, I guess I was waiting

(2) I mean I’m p sure only Maria was TRing you for something I didn’t like and I’m historically terrible at reading Maria. The Captain was saying he TR you in spite of a bad stance afaict

(3) i don’t think I’d done anything that could be reasonably seen as scummy given my general scumplay and so I put it down to you being meme-y or tunnelling me out of paranoia, which in the first case I was going along with by just continuing my push for market leader and in the second it’s boring so was waiting for the right time

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Menalque what is going to be your strategy as Auction Owner

Townpoints for the turkey.

It’s also interesting that Menalque townreads Gamma despite Gamma supporting my question to him

I don’t townread gamma for this, this is inconsequential to my TR on gamma

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How town is gobble

So town

Is this a prelude to an omgus vote

Like this was your only ginngie engagement after your vote, if you thought they were actually scummy why were you just memeing with them?

What makes you think this is a meme

By meme I mean “obviously not serious posting” because you hadn’t done anything that would put you even vaguely near the

border

of “so town” by this point

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You’re on level 1 thinking about the game right now
I’m on level 2 thinking about the game right now

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Captain, what do you think of voting the turkey?

Datisi, same question?

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i like disagree that they're bad arguments i guess?
- like i'm p sure you often said that i'm easy to read on tone and i do feel my tone has been Very Town this game yet you seemed to ignore it earlier?
- when people awarded me a TR for something you didn't like you didn't bother saying anything about it?
- you were saying my push is scum!indicative when (1) that's very off my scummeta and you would probably be able to detect if that were the case? (2) i just lost against scum!you so if i thought you were scum why would i not latch onto it early? also (3) you were like ignoring my posts and "i'll talk to you when you stop tunneling" and i think town!you would be more likely to like *talk* to me and either a) try to see that i'm town or b) try to get scum!me to spew associates and instead you go the ignore route spampost in thread instead route which kinda feels like you were trying to just shut me down?

(1) idk, I guess I was waiting

(2) I mean I’m p sure only Maria was TRing you for something I didn’t like and I’m historically terrible at reading Maria. The Captain was saying he TR you in spite of a bad stance afaict

(3) i don’t think I’d done anything that could be reasonably seen as scummy given my general scumplay and so I put it down to you being meme-y or tunnelling me out of paranoia, which in the first case I was going along with by just continuing my push for market leader and in the second it’s boring so was waiting for the right time

(1) waiting for...? ?? ???

(2) ok. but you still don't even ~mention~ it?

(3) i don't think i have a respone other than "that does not feel like town!mena" and i know that sentence by itself is worthless and that is annoying me

(1) I mean if I knew I wouldn’t have said “idk”

(2) yeah, why is this a big thing?

(3) can’t really help with that

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And I say “could” because I’m not sure whether I would have had that thought, because that wasn’t the timeline that happened.

This was a very nuanced post I think, and I don’t really see scum!gamma making it

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(2) yeah, why is this a big thing?

Because "i think datisi doing X is scum!indicative" and "these people think datisi doing X is town!indicative" kinda leads to the conclusion of "let's talk about it" and that didn't happen and I'm worried???

I mean, this one person who was MariaR and bc I was more interested in my electoral campaign

Like idk what you want from me here exactly datisi, I’m addressing you now and you’re making it into a big thing of BuT wHy DiDn’T yUo dO iT eArLiEr!?

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Menalque what is going to be your strategy as Auction Owner

Townpoints for the turkey.

It’s also interesting that Menalque townreads Gamma despite Gamma supporting my question to him

I don’t townread gamma for this, this is inconsequential to my TR on gamma

That’s not the point I was making but that was my fault for how I made the comment.
You think I’m scum for this question
Gamma one of your if not your strongest town reads thinks I’m townie for this
Why no engagement or discourse on this?

No, i think you’re scum for having a scum thought process around your ginngie vote, i think this is also scummy in light of that

I guess gamma can weigh in when he gets here

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Do you and Datisi have a lot of history together? I don’t really like how you’re just attacking his read on you for being ‘wrong.’ There is a difference between being wrong town and scum trying to get a ml. What route do you think they’re taking rn.

Finish catching up, I think datisi is town but we have a bunch more posts for you to go through

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And a lot of history together

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That post adds to my scumread on you it is not the reason for my scumread on you

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think Mena’s push is something he earnestly believes even though it is wrong. His is push also surface level.

This is a hatchet btw

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Talk to me on these 2

For gamma, see 288

I think he’s generally also displaying town interests

For PP — it’s pretty much pure tone. I think I’m *reasonably* good at tonereading him, and if I think he strays off it I think I’ll be able to reevaluate later

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Gobble might be scum but Ginngie has higher odds of flipping scum.

Why?

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If X has a bunch of videos of them shooting people and chopping their heads off and a collection of a big bunch of knives in their house labelled “KNIVES I DO MURDERS WITH” then I would be pretty locked on the idea that they’re a murdered because of the videos of them shooting people and chopping their heads off and the knives would be superfluous. If I just went to their house and found the set of “KNIVES I DO MURDERS WITH” I might think it’s a joke or not take it too seriously, and probably wouldn’t instantly conclude that theyre definitely a real murderer, even though it’s not good on its own

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What does a hatchet mean in this context?

He’s trying to undermine my credibility by arguing that I’m not thinking at a high enough level

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Because I’d sorted you already so I approached you in a putting rope around your neck way

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Look Mena I'm pocketing you wink wink

<.< >.>

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I am lowkey paranoid of Maria but would love for us to actually finally manage to have a productive game together without fighting so giving her benefit of the doubt for now

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Lmao this is getting spicy

Mena, thoughts on PB?

Town I think but I don’t really like him pushing 2 of my townreads

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You guys can’t lynch me I have more page tops than the mod

And you think this makes us... less likely to lynch you? :p

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Thoughts on 288 pure boi?

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So his entire read on me is based off one post. And that’s somehow okay with people.

Like a jury still convicts a murder off one piece of evidence when the evidence is video footage of him doing the murder he’s accused of

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How town is gobble

So town

Is this a prelude to an omgus vote

Like this was your only ginngie engagement after your vote, if you thought they were actually scummy why were you just memeing with them?

What makes you think this is a meme

By meme I mean “obviously not serious posting” because you hadn’t done anything that would put you even vaguely near the

border

of “so town” by this point

So that one comment invalidates the other comment in that very same post?

I would like this answered Menalque.

Whats ur point?

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And I say “could” because I’m not sure whether I would have had that thought, because that wasn’t the timeline that happened.

This was a very nuanced post I think, and I don’t really see scum!gamma making it

I don't understand Gamma's post without context and I don't know what nuanced is so

Nuanced is like more complex than the surface level

He was talking about my possible approaches to the election and something I don’t totally get re: mainstream mafia, but he get the need to clarify that the fact I could have done something was a “could” because we ended up not in the first world he was thinking of

That’s badly explained probably

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Why do you townread gobble @alacrity?

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Mena is a shit marketplace owner, btw. He's consistently tr-d D1 as scum

This seems unfair and also I kinda don’t like it

Like yeeeeeeees I am and it seems kind of valid on the surface but also I’m the leading market owner campaign and scum would be invested in not having town as the market owner so you undermining this is ehhh

OTOH I do agree on titus town so you redirecting it to there of all places would be ?? As scum

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Bingle what did you think of titus’ gamma vote?

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Why the Chemist scum read?

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elect: menalque

Don’t let this campaign fall apart folks

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My point is that the second sentence is engaging with Ginngie. You didn’t find it odd that Ginngie’s first comment back is asking how town I am? The only person voting him? Especially when you had given another hard town read? That doesn’t look self centered to you?

Not really? Asking for perceptions on how town the person pushing you is seems quite reasonable if you’re not sure if it’s a badpush or a scumpush

What do you mean “when you had given another hard town read?” — you mean ginngie or me

Also gobble trying to get me to shake off a scumread by insulting me is like probably the least effective way you could possibly approach that. Makes me feel like I’m being manipulated and commit to getting people lynched even harder

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is there anything special that you will do that cannot be done by someone else who you believe to be town?

Yes, I will have more fun than them

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So his entire read on me is based off one post. And that’s somehow okay with people.

Like a jury still convicts a murder off one piece of evidence when the evidence is video footage of him doing the murder he’s accused of

As I said earlier, the post you are using is nowhere near the equivalent of direct evidence of someone commiting a crime. Your continued attempts to push this narrative are either scum indicative or my appreciation for your skill as a player has found a new floor.

I mean nah, my point is more that one post is fine if that post is very scum!indicative

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She did, which is why we should be electing me!

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yes, but she's town, so.

I am also town, so

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Elect: Titus

Eckshplain

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Hey gamma, why’d you change your elect vote to datisi?

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I'm not electing Titus but I do think she's town

so like

Elect me, chem!

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Elect: Titus

Eckshplain

You have ignored me since I'm here

I don’t think that’s exactly true, you just turned up at a time when I was going into my more RL focused part of the day

I spoke to you

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Also I’m lowkey paranoid you’re scum PB bc of how hard you’re disagreeing with me on reads

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My point is that the second sentence is engaging with Ginngie. You didn’t find it odd that Ginngie’s first comment back is asking how town I am? The only person voting him? Especially when you had given another hard town read? That doesn’t look self centered to you?

Not really? Asking for perceptions on how town the person pushing you is seems quite reasonable if you’re not sure if it’s a badpush or a scumpush

What do you mean “when you had given another hard town read?” — you mean ginngie or me

Also gobble trying to get me to shake off a scumread by insulting me is like probably the least effective way you could possibly approach that. Makes me feel like I’m being manipulated and commit to getting people lynched even harder

I’ll respond when you stop your tunnel.

You’ve done like nothing to make me TR you and have posts that are making me SR you

What should I be seeing that I’m not

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I mean you’ve basically

(1) made a post I think is indicative of a scum!mindset
(2) call me bad for thinking you’re scum
(3) complain about being scumread for it
(4) ask a bunch of questions to people without any real follow up on them
(5) make inconsequential posts regarding nothing

So again, as I’m looking in your ISO what do you think I should be seeing that shows that this is town!you, if that’s the case?

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If people really want me to be leader

Elect: Titus

I mean for the record: I dont

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Elect: Titus

Eckshplain

You have ignored me since I'm here

I don’t think that’s exactly true, you just turned up at a time when I was going into my more RL focused part of the day

I spoke to you

But now you're here and you have seen my posts and my stances and people is starting to vote me and you're not taking a stance

Yeah, idk dude

I think your approach to me is less likely to be one you’d take as scum but idk if you’d change the approach after krazy’s post-apocalyptic game

Mostly I don’t see turkey!town and so you hard pushing gamma!scum when I’ve said that’s like my top TR, and trying to shift things away from my top SR to my top TR has me ?? on you

Also I guess I’m not sure how much you’d play around me, and given that gobble is as of yet unflipped it’s also harder to judge your motivations on this

So I won’t join the wagon on you (do wanna hear from alacrity) but not really confident enough in town!you now to defend you

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Also I’m lowkey paranoid you’re scum PB bc of how hard you’re disagreeing with me on reads

PB and I largely have the same reads. Do you lowkey think I am scum?

Idk if I would expect us to have the same reads as town, Titus

Also even if you overlap reads with him you didn’t hardpush away from my top SR wagon towards my top TR

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I mean I’m not saying you’re trying to move the wagon from my top SR to my top TR bc it’s mine

But that is what you’re doing and that’s enough to give me pause about it

How are my conclusions like saying you only read my ISO?

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I mean if you wanna get me onboard with ur thing then tell me what it is you’re seeing that is town!turkey bc I’m not

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^that was at pure boi

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I am lowkey paranoid of Maria but would love for us to actually finally manage to have a productive game together without fighting so giving her benefit of the doubt for now

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@gobble

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She’s being nice here which is the thing making me lowkey paranoid, but equally I don’t wanna SR her for it bc I want to think she’s not only going to try to be nice in games where she’s scum

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Are you scum Menalque?

Are you reading my posts turkey?

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Because I’ve taken a stance on datisi, Titus, PP and more recently on pure boi too

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If you’re actually town why are you busy trying to shade me for having nuance in my reads instead of trying to show me that you’re town?

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Like my posts in the last page and a half have been an absolute olive branch for town!you and instead you’re going “are you scum mena? All your reads are shit”

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Elect: Titus

Eckshplain

You have ignored me since I'm here

I don’t think that’s exactly true, you just turned up at a time when I was going into my more RL focused part of the day

I spoke to you

But now you're here and you have seen my posts and my stances and people is starting to vote me and you're not taking a stance

Yeah, idk dude

I think your approach to me is less likely to be one you’d take as scum but idk if you’d change the approach after krazy’s post-apocalyptic game

Mostly I don’t see turkey!town and so you hard pushing gamma!scum when I’ve said that’s like my top TR, and trying to shift things away from my top SR to my top TR has me ?? on you

Also I guess I’m not sure how much you’d play around me, and given that gobble is as of yet unflipped it’s also harder to judge your motivations on this

So I won’t join the wagon on you (do wanna hear from alacrity) but not really confident enough in town!you now to defend you

This is a stance on pure boi. It may not be the stance you want me to have, but it’s a stance. On the preponderance of the evidence I think he’s very weakly town but yeah, he’s mostly in null. He’s done nothing to make me feel strongly like I should take him out of there

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Like my posts in the last page and a half have been an absolute olive branch for town!you and instead you’re going “are you scum mena? All your reads are shit”

I literally responded with the "I will respond to you if you stop tunneling me" as an almost verbatim quote of what you said to Datisi.

I’ll talk to you when you stop tunnelling me?

So why is it bad that I said that but it is ok for you to say?

Me saying “show me how you’re town” is LITERALLY me not tunnelling you and saying I’m listening

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Like if you can’t tell the difference between “I still think you’re scum but I’m taking a pause on trying to get more people to vote for you and to hear what you have to say” and “MORE VOTES ON GOBBLES HE’S SCUM” idk what to tell you

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Like my posts in the last page and a half have been an absolute olive branch for town!you and instead you’re going “are you scum mena? All your reads are shit”

I am responding to your enumerated list post, but I have class so it will have to wait

Ehh I can wait

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Why do you want mariaR?

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Why do you townread gobble @alacrity?

The way his reads progress is transparently an attempt to solve the game! =)

How so?

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UNVOTE:

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I will say that giving the market leader to someone who seems less than enthused by it vs someone who is actively super excited about it is pretty meh fmpov when looking at the game from a “have fun and let people have fun” angle as well as a play to win angle

Agree giving to titus is probably mildly optimising beyond giving it to me but I don’t have to like it

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Can we lynch pine?

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I think I wanna lynch pine kinda

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VOTE: pine

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VOTE: pine

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Err I’ll be back to explain in like 30 mins

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Ehh didn’t take that long in the end

I didn’t like his catch up

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Like he’s basically softing a mena!scum, dats!scum, gobble!scum, pb!scum all in one post without committing to any of them, and TRing gamma and Titus one of which is a universal TR p much and the other isn’t exactly controversial

Particularly there’s also some unnecessary aggression near the beginning that feels faked, and reminds me of pine in Added to the Group Chat where he was scum

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Don't let Menalque fool you with this "I'm a naive new player" crap. Blowing his whole wad in the first page and campaigning hard for leader...yeah, no. Do not like.

This is a very weird take for pine to have seriously, I think, and feels very bad faith as that’s p clearly not what I was doing

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Also like, most people in this PL already know that about me so idk who he’s trying to warn? Feels LAMIST

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Also just basically none of his other posts containing any solving effort at all

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Why do you townread gobble @alacrity?

The way his reads progress is transparently an attempt to solve the game! =)

Can u break down some concrete examples of this?

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I have some concerns but I’m willing to wait while she gets into the game

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Which is partly why I’m trying to poke her to actually post

I don’t really vibe with her reads so I want her to explain more why she has them

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Lowkey concerned about accidentally pocketing myself there too tbh

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See that's why you're town Mena

You get it, you get why Pine could be scum

STOP

THE

PARANOIA

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Hi Alyssa

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Anyway what were the questions addressed to me again

I think they were just explain 2/3 my reads but I might as well ask to be sure

Mostly what you think gobble has done that shows obvious town trajectory

Also vote for me for market leader?

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Datisi are you still vote parking me lmao

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I guess I could do Pine too

Sounds good, Captain

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And I feel more like PB has done town things plus Alyssa is pushing there and I don’t feel like she’s town yet

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Datisi are you still vote parking me lmao

Yes.

Do you wanna vote for scum?

Failing that, someone useful/who’s getting lynched today?

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@mariaR vote pine bc he’s your main competing wagon

Unless you wanna kill Alyssa in which case why?

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VOTE: PB

watch your profanity

@mariaR vote pine bc he’s your main competing wagon

ew fuck off

lol

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@alyssa vote pine unless you wanna die

Unless you want mariaR in which case why?

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I'm a bad wagon.

Actually you’re a good wagon

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Captain, can you revote pine pls?

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I’m doing other stuff rn so I will be very mildly here

Vote pine peeps

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Alyssa opinion on Pine?

I think he's okay enough to survive d1

Vote pine?

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Maria unless you think Alyssa is scum then vote pine?

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Sorry mate, I like you, but you're flagrantly scum here.

The irony is that the last time you did this it was because I’d called you scum, and then you flipped scum

Funny that

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VOTE: alyssa

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VOTE: maria

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Don’t really think you’re scum Maria but if it’s being forced between the two of us

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Pine is scum, Alyssa may very well be scum, Maria prob town maybe?, double check if the datisi tunnel is fake

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I got neighbouriser probably with 300 bid

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Also lowkey think the penguin may be scum

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Ginngie prob scum with Alyssa scum

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Gamma town

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Dats still prob town but check her

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Actually maybe dats scum? Idk rn

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Okay bye

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Datisi what is your read on me?

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Alyssa, same question

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VOTE: pine this is still scum

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idk

Okay why did you vote me at eod when Maria was the main wagon?

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lol my scumgame is legendary?

I mean, it’s known at least

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Datisi what is your read on me?

I'm still not getting any good vibes from the "early" part of Day 1. Yours on me?

Considering it

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Datisi if your game plan is just to lazily tunnel me regardless then I’ll policy you

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Titus why are you voting ginngie?

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Alyssa who are your top suspects right now?

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Alyssa who are your top suspects right now?

Hell if I know

I'm resetting and ignoring d1

Okay, why did you vote me at end of day 1?

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In fact why did you repeatedly vote and unvote me if memory serves

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it's not. i was hoping it would poke you into answering me.

Answer you on what? I already did answer you

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I mean I’m struggling to talk to you bc I’m struggling to trust you bc in spite of your tone you voted me for ???? reasons all day and then jumped on the CW to scum at day close again, then voted me again today despite me being a CW to scum which I expected to significantly townify me in your eyes

I’m trying to decide if you’re being lazy or if you’re just scum

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I think the Captain kill is kind of indicative of pine!scum too

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I’m really bummed that Maria was scum bc I legit thought we were turning over a new leaf in our history of animosity and now idk if it was just for show

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Ur both pretty

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I think I wanna lynch in (pine, datisi, Alyssa) today

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Currently still a preference towards pine but datisi is doing her level best to take his place

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The town in this game are mostly doing a very bad job of looking like town tbh

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Because you have literally 0 good reasons to be suspicious of me other than “hurr durr mena good at scum”

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Other than some nebulous “mena feels awkward” thing that you commented on early D1 and have not let go of ever since

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Again, I’m not talking to you that much because I DO NOT TRUST YOU

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Like normally when I jam with you you’ve made your alignment very clear and here you’re either tunnelling me for ??? bad reasons or you’re intentionally obscuring you’re alignment neither of which are exactly conducive to me wanting to work with you in this game

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(3) i don't think i have a respone other than "that does not feel like town!mena" and i know that sentence by itself is worthless and that is annoying me

okay maybe
you think me tunnelling you "out of paranoia" is boring so you kinda just leave it there and ignore it and potentially let it escalate? even tho knowing a potentially TvT fight would be Very Bad? while thinking i was scummy for actually pushing/tunneling you?

do these seem like ??? reasons to you? like, you ignoring me earlier and trying to shut me out is ??? ?

Please acknowledge this post and tell me if you GENUINELY believe i should not feel like this.

I mean it escalating is totally down to you not me dude

I haven’t been looking for a fight with you, you’ve been pushing on the edges of wanting one with me since game start practically

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Like exactly how many posts had I made when you started tunnelling me precisely

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oh fuck mena rolled scum *again*

i will not be a deputy to scum

i am unironically worried but ok

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Why are you asking him

elect: Menalque

I will be a just and glorious leader of this market folks

Btw...you may all refer to me as Captain or The Captain for this game. Pls and thx.

Aye aye, Captain.

Is abbreviating to Cap’n acceptable?

Also, elect me?

No one should bid for anything unless it’s like a 1 dollar bid so scum don’t know what they have to bid for final bid

I already bid all my money

No one should bid for anything unless it’s like a 1 dollar bid so scum don’t know what they have to bid for final bid

I already bid all my money

Nice

That’s right, allllll 800 dollars

Absolutely not. It is Captain or The Captain. I am not a cereal.

Understood, The Captain.

Turkey, elect me leader of this fine market!

oh fuck mena rolled scum *again*

<.<

>.>

Datisi give up your doomed electoral campaign and elect me and you can be my deputy

Turkey town

Glorious! Glorious glorious glorious

Here are my reads

Locktown:

Turkey
The Captain

Null pending on ~*something*~:

Ginngie

Lockscum:

Datisi

In a deeply confusing command structure, The Captain is the official deputy leader of the market despite being Captain of the game overall

then vote me you coward

I’ll bankrupt your campaign first

That’s the entirety of my iso in full up to where you were “un ironically worried” about me

What pray tell was leading to that

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And if I did let it fester then maybe it’s because I was thinking it was a meme read on me? Because of all of those posts being the entirety of my ISO at the time??? So why would I assume it was going to turn into anything more than a meme????

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Especially given that you’ve literally played games with me where I fake scumclaimed as town

So seriously what exactly was there in my early posts that has given you such a strong scumread on me that it was worth tunnelling for an entire day phase for

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The truth is that if I end up hard pushing you and you flip town then it’s not going to look bad for me at all

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Because everyone who gets on board is going to have done so because they can see that you’ve shit tunnelled me all game and are going to vote you for that reason

And you flipping town wouldn’t mean it wasn’t a shit tunnel

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Like just about the only reason I think you’re town aside from your tone being kind of town is that I’m not sure scum!you is willing to make a play of pissing me off to the extent that I decide you should die and thinks you’re going to win that fight, especially when I was the counterwagon to scum that you were on when people were pushing actual scum?

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Because that’s a highkey insane strategy

The concern is that scum!you thinks that by forcing engagement with me you can get me to TR you therefore you’ve been trying to force the engagement instead of letting me read you by actions

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All I cared about on D1 at the beginning was my electoral campaign

If I’m still fairly low energy then it’s because I’m still kind of lowkey pissed that Titus was elected and not me