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EchoVision · Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:55 am

In post 10, Noraa wrote:I predict this game will be like this:

Spoiler:
Noraa and shelly spamming the fuck out of the thread

wtf i'm not allowed to spam?
jerk
i got you in this game okay give me some spam credit
VOTE: noraa for being insensitive to my feelings

EchoVision · Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:58 am

In post 13, NoPowerOverMe wrote:#57 on the great idea role list.

fuck this is some early wifom
i just finished my calc midterm i can't be thinking this much ffs

EchoVision · Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:59 am

like why would you claim now that's such an easy outlet to hit if a tracker or someone gets a result on you and be like "oh yeah that's just my role"
and there's also no way to prove it

but if you wait till you HAVE to claim it due to a result then that's scummy as fuck
but fuck
fuck
fuck
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EchoVision · Post Post #19 (isolation #3) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:05 am

In post 18, Titus wrote:First post even.

VOTE: EchoVision

You aren't a noob.

listennnnn i don't get out of newbie queue much okay
we don't claim anything that fucks with results cause we don't have anything that fucks with results zzzzzz

EchoVision · Post Post #23 (isolation #4) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:27 am

why is fakeclaiming harder?

EchoVision · Post Post #24 (isolation #5) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:28 am

shelly i really hope you're not in this thread right now bc i swear to fuck if this shit gets taken from me

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EchoVision · Post Post #25 (isolation #6) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:28 am

hippity hoppity
i want page toppity

EchoVision · Post Post #30 (isolation #7) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:14 am

In post 26, shellyc wrote:
In post 23, EchoVision wrote:why is fakeclaiming harder?
because there is only 1 gravedigger here, if gravedigger gets rolled NPOM is outed. so it's risky

ohhhh you meant fakeclaiming solely for gravedigger
i thought you meant fakeclaims in general were going to be harder

also why not primate spamming is fun

EchoVision · Post Post #32 (isolation #8) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:37 am

In post 31, Primate wrote:I'm too old, I can't keep up with that business anymore.

I actually had one of my suggestions added to this deck at 2014 AVmeet. If anyone's rolled the compulsive child killer, you're welcome.

too old smh
that's a pussy response
i wanna see you on the top of the post count

EchoVision · Post Post #34 (isolation #9) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:09 am

yeah there's like 6 different factions that

could

exist
and i kinda do just not in newbie queue
that's why i don't leave newbie queue

also apparently claiming is meta if it effects night actions

EchoVision · Post Post #46 (isolation #10) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:11 am

In post 44, Titus wrote:I'm not in a fast rush to lynch NPOM. I want to see how things play out here. Hardly anyone has shown at the moment and I find the push to lynch NPOM as gravedigger a bit scummy. I reserve the right to change my mind based on Mantee's normal though.

+1
(apparently) it's site meta to claim something that fucks with night actions so why would claiming here be seen as scummy

scum!npom

shouldn't

gambit here imo; like shelly said it's risky this early and with no real benefit and a biiiiiiig downside

EchoVision · Post Post #47 (isolation #11) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:12 am

In post 45, Assemblerotws wrote:VOTE: Noraa
Why would you join a game with an established rolelist and not look up what that rolelist is?

bc i pressured her into joining and she zoomed into queue
but yeah you prob should go read the rolelist

also idk if i said it or not but yeah child killer is my favorite role ever seen in mafia ever so

EchoVision · Post Post #58 (isolation #12) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:04 am

In post 54, Herta wrote:If there's more than one NK does it show him guilty on all?

can you reword this for me? i’m confused

EchoVision · Post Post #62 (isolation #13) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:06 am

In post 60, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Mafia kills player A. Serial Killer kills player B. I show up on guilty to watchers and trackers on both.

ohhh okay i misunderstood the role that makes sense then
but wouldn’t you need two trackers to watch both of them?

EchoVision · Post Post #102 (isolation #14) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:31 pm

npom who’s scum

EchoVision · Post Post #121 (isolation #15) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:18 pm

In post 104, shellyc wrote:echo whos scum

listen im gunna drop a solve next page, this game is very close to solved tbh

titus is town as well. engagement with noraa seemed like solving when scum!titus could just wagon on renny

ico and arachnids are a team; they're posting in their private topic right now instead of in the actual thread
they wanna make that fashionably late entrance but they can't decide who shows up first
whoever shows up first has to bring the alcohol

VOTE: ico

EchoVision · Post Post #122 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:20 pm

In post 107, Noraa wrote:Shelly the way u started off this game reminds me a shit ton of ur scum games. Ur scum games always start off looking very very protown. However when ur town, u always start off meh or really scummy :/

let's rock her shit then

EchoVision · Post Post #123 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:20 pm

In post 109, shellyc wrote:
In post 107, Noraa wrote:Shelly the way u started off this game reminds me a shit ton of ur scum games. Ur scum games always start off looking very very protown. However when ur town, u always start off meh or really scummy :/
this is very wifomy and I can improve at being town

meh response
noraa you tryna rock this shit or do you wanna rock ico's shit with me since he's not even here yet
or the other person who's name i can't even remember
it starts with an a

EchoVision · Post Post #124 (isolation #18) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:22 pm

In post 111, shellyc wrote:
In post 110, Rannygazoo wrote:So how does scum claiming miller on d1 factor into the site meta?
scum can do it but 1) it's subject to counterclaims and 2) this is great idea and there are like 2 gravedigger cards

there could be two gravediggers tho, granted ones town aligned ones ww aligned but still
cc-ing would be hard here

wym by number 2

EchoVision · Post Post #125 (isolation #19) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:23 pm

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EchoVision · Post Post #126 (isolation #20) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:25 pm

In post 120, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 102, EchoVision wrote:npom who’s scum
It's the beginning of day one how would I know?

bc you're town
so who's not

EchoVision · Post Post #133 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:04 pm

In post 128, shellyc wrote:
In post 124, EchoVision wrote:wym by number 2
the name of the setup is great idea
theres a town grave card and a wolf gravedigger card

understood have a good day

EchoVision · Post Post #134 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:04 pm

In post 128, shellyc wrote:
In post 124, EchoVision wrote:wym by number 2
the name of the setup is great idea
theres a town grave card and a wolf gravedigger card

In post 127, shellyc wrote:echo who is scum im gunna solve this on this page

lebron james and shaquille o’neal

EchoVision · Post Post #135 (isolation #23) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:05 pm

In post 128, shellyc wrote:
In post 124, EchoVision wrote:wym by number 2
the name of the setup is great idea
theres a town grave card and a wolf gravedigger card

In post 127, shellyc wrote:echo who is scum im gunna solve this on this page

In post 129, Noraa wrote:
In post 123, EchoVision wrote:
In post 109, shellyc wrote:
In post 107, Noraa wrote:Shelly the way u started off this game reminds me a shit ton of ur scum games. Ur scum games always start off looking very very protown. However when ur town, u always start off meh or really scummy :/
this is very wifomy and I can improve at being town
bc i’m a fucking expert and my best friend shelly knows i’m a fucking expert
meh response
noraa you tryna rock this shit or do you wanna rock ico's shit with me since he's not even here yet
or the other person who's name i can't even remember
it starts with an a
the arachnid one. I plan on focusing on shelly bc her entrance pings me of all her scum games so far where she started off being TRed a shit ton for "protown behavior"

In post 127, shellyc wrote:echo who is scum im gunna solve this on this page
why are we asking for solves day 1? none of them r gonna be right. Just ask for reads. Plus its still half rvs and I doubt anyone has a read that's half decent. Chill ur butt, wait for info to collect itself and magically everyone will have reads

EchoVision · Post Post #136 (isolation #24) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:07 pm

wtf why is mobile stupid hold on

EchoVision · Post Post #137 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:09 pm

In post 129, Noraa wrote:
In post 123, EchoVision wrote:
In post 109, shellyc wrote:
In post 107, Noraa wrote:Shelly the way u started off this game reminds me a shit ton of ur scum games. Ur scum games always start off looking very very protown. However when ur town, u always start off meh or really scummy :/
this is very wifomy and I can improve at being town
meh response
noraa you tryna rock this shit or do you wanna rock ico's shit with me since he's not even here yet
or the other person who's name i can't even remember
it starts with an a
the arachnid one. I plan on focusing on shelly bc her entrance pings me of all her scum games so far where she started off being TRed a shit ton for "protown behavior"

In post 127, shellyc wrote:echo who is scum im gunna solve this on this page
why are we asking for solves day 1? none of them r gonna be right. Just ask for reads. Plus its still half rvs and I doubt anyone has a read that's half decent. Chill ur butt, wait for info to collect itself and magically everyone will have reads

bc i’m a fucking expert and my best friend shelly knows i’m an expert
but shellys bein a lil bit of a weirdo so i am accepting new best friend applications
i don’t really like how towny shellys being

but it’s never the person you most suspect nor least suspect it’s whoever you middle most suspect
shelly+ noraa scum team again throwback to doggos

EchoVision · Post Post #182 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:37 am

In post 140, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If shelly says you are scum 53 times than you are town.

what if she says it 52 times

EchoVision · Post Post #183 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:43 am

In post 145, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 121, EchoVision wrote:
In post 104, shellyc wrote:echo whos scum

listen im gunna drop a solve next page, this game is very close to solved tbh

titus is town as well. engagement with noraa seemed like solving when scum!titus could just wagon on renny
ico and arachnids are a team; they're posting in their private topic right now instead of in the actual thread
they wanna make that fashionably late entrance but they can't decide who shows up first
whoever shows up first has to bring the alcohol

VOTE: ico
Don’t like this. I also check AG’s latest activity and it was today, BUT her name isn’t bolded in the mod’s first post, meaning she hasn’t confirmed her role via pm. Personally I doubt she’s still playing.

What do you think voting on inactives will accomplish?

Your next line will be: “My vote was just a joke.”

nah it wasn't a joke; ico has checked in so i'm assuming he knows the games going on
maybe he's reading and chillin like a villain and my vote will bring his attention to post

i doubt he's just lurking but maybe when he comes in and sees he has a vote on him he'll "oh shit" then obvtown or something

EchoVision · Post Post #185 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:46 am

In post 149, Herta wrote:People going around asking "who's scum?" less than 24 hours into this game is weird. If it was just one person along, I might tr it as some scum hunting style.

Is that the point you're making, Primate?

herta who's scum

EchoVision · Post Post #186 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:49 am

In post 157, Herta wrote:Yeah, sounds like newbscum to me.

In post 158, shellyc wrote:did you just scumclaim

In post 160, redcardinal wrote:herta's scum, serious vote

what the fuck did i just watch happen

EchoVision · Post Post #189 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:53 am

In post 175, Primate wrote:@RedCardinal: I don't see how you could possibly reach that conclusion in a game that's quite likely to not have group scum.

can you explain "likely to not have group scum" for me
like you think there's no factions, and each non-town aligned player is like 1sk, 1ww, etc?
or am i reading it wrong

EchoVision · Post Post #211 (isolation #31) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:23 am

how much longer till ico (confirmed but hasn't posted)
and arachnids (hasn't even confirmed)
get prodded/replacements looked for zzzzz

EchoVision · Post Post #212 (isolation #32) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:24 am

In post 210, Noraa wrote:I never understood the case on Herta. Anyone want to walk me thru that?

herta scum claimed
but it's at l-2 and i want all the slots to post at least once before i put a wagon at l-1 so i'm just chillin with a vote in my pocket waiting

EchoVision · Post Post #213 (isolation #33) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:25 am

In post 154, Herta wrote:
Not much at this point. Jumped out of rvs quick. npom is probably town. You and noraa I can't tell bc I'm having a hard time distinguishing you. Echo seems overly serious, but I'm having some difficulty there with Primate bc of the similar avatars also. I don't understand why everyone blew off the one person's question about other great idea games when there are three linked at the end of the wiki page. I mean several people have said that they read the wiki page, but none bothered to mention that? I linked to one of the games thinking that someone would accept that as an invitation to town bloc, but nothing.

What do you think?

In post 155, shellyc wrote:I think 154 comes from newbscum more than town thought (assuming herta isnt an alt or something)

In post 157, Herta wrote:Yeah, sounds like newbscum to me.

scumclaim for u

EchoVision · Post Post #224 (isolation #34) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:27 pm

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EchoVision · Post Post #225 (isolation #35) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:27 pm

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EchoVision · Post Post #227 (isolation #36) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:29 pm

In post 222, redcardinal wrote:I forsee a herta lynch today, but if not I will also happily go for shelly and then noraa on a red flip. Obvious distancing.

is your lynchpool only those two today? ik there's quite a bit of time left, and we have two slots that haven't checked in, but aorn

EchoVision · Post Post #228 (isolation #37) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:30 pm

In post 226, Noraa wrote:
In post 223, redcardinal wrote:having read through the rest of the thread after my post 220 I scumread noraa
buhahahahaha u go into such detail as for why. You have some time to explain before I start SRing u for this quick and unexplained shift of opinions that threw shade at me for no apparent reason with nothing to back it up.

yeah i'm confused too but i really don't like your response noraa
-1 to both of you

EchoVision · Post Post #232 (isolation #38) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:44 pm

In post 229, Noraa wrote:
In post 227, EchoVision wrote:
In post 222, redcardinal wrote:I forsee a herta lynch today, but if not I will also happily go for shelly and then noraa on a red flip. Obvious distancing.
is your lynchpool only those two today? ik there's quite a bit of time left, and we have two slots that haven't checked in, but aorn
its bad that red is SRing the two people who have talked the most so far and thinks that's the lim pool and its funny that I'm in the limpool even when red "TRs me"

that's just weird :/

your lynch is based on if shelly flips red though
i think

i think your lynch is conditional, correct me if i'm wrong red

but who's to say that most posts = town you goober

EchoVision · Post Post #233 (isolation #39) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:45 pm

In post 230, Noraa wrote:And also its pages 10. Wtf do u mean "I forsee this lim but if not these two, we can kill off one person that I SR or one that I currently TR both who are currently talking the most"

yeah i really don't like that you have the idea "we talk a lot so you shouldn't be scum reading us"

EchoVision · Post Post #278 (isolation #40) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:06 pm

In post 248, Noraa wrote:VOTE: redcardinal

:thumbs_down:

EchoVision · Post Post #280 (isolation #41) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:53 pm

In post 259, Noraa wrote:I didn't realize it said to kill me if shelly flips red

noraa darling i told you this
then red even confirmed it

EchoVision · Post Post #300 (isolation #42) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:40 am

In post 294, Herta wrote:
In post 293, Rannygazoo wrote:Herta, maybe try explaining the scum claim that led to your wagon instead of just complaining about it
Alright, how about this:

Yeah, sounds like newbscum to me.

:thumbs_down:

EchoVision · Post Post #301 (isolation #43) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:41 am

In post 296, Herta wrote:
In post 293, Rannygazoo wrote:Herta, maybe try explaining the scum claim that led to your wagon instead of just complaining about it
Have you ever seen a sincere scum claim this early outside of RVs on this site? Has anyone?

:thumbs_down: still complaining not explaining

EchoVision · Post Post #302 (isolation #44) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:42 am

In post 297, Titus wrote:VOTE: Ico

I want a counter to this wagon.

+1
i think i'm still there and i'ma chill until someone posts for that slot

EchoVision · Post Post #309 (isolation #45) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:21 pm

assembler has two posts, the last of which was friday night around this time
come back

EchoVision · Post Post #310 (isolation #46) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:12 pm

VOTE: assemblerotws
baby come back

EchoVision · Post Post #322 (isolation #47) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:06 pm

In post 315, Rannygazoo wrote:VOTE: EchoVision
That’s the second time you voted a slot for being inactive. Is 13 pages not enough for you to find anything scummy?

i think herta's scummy, i've said herta's scummy
i don't want to put herta at l-1 right now
there's two slots in this game that haven't even posted yet

EchoVision · Post Post #324 (isolation #48) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:07 pm

In post 320, Titus wrote:
In post 315, Rannygazoo wrote:VOTE: EchoVision
That’s the second time you voted a slot for being inactive. Is 13 pages not enough for you to find anything scummy?
VOTE: Echo

Why not stay on Iconeum? Why the swap?

because assembler has posted; i don't want assembler to be coasting and lurking
i know assembler's been there in the past, might be here now
a vote on them has a higher chance of getting attention than a vote on ico right now

EchoVision · Post Post #325 (isolation #49) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:07 pm

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EchoVision · Post Post #326 (isolation #50) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:08 pm

In post 323, shellyc wrote:what will your vote do being on the inactive slots

ico was just for fun
my last post covered why i voted this one

EchoVision · Post Post #329 (isolation #51) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:12 pm

In post 328, shellyc wrote:
In post 324, EchoVision wrote:because assembler has posted; i don't want assembler to be coasting and lurking
i know assembler's been there in the past, might be here now
a vote on them has a higher chance of getting attention than a vote on ico right now
lurkers get replaced, pressure votes are pointless when you say they're pressure votes

yeah but i don't know if he's actually lurking or just gone
if he's gone you're right
if he's lurking now he's like "oh damn i'm lurking i should go post cause there's a vote on me aw shucks!"

EchoVision · Post Post #330 (isolation #52) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:12 pm

and i have to say they're pressure votes cause yall like to whine and not let me have fun with my vote on someone with 0 or 1 votes on them zzzzzzzzzzzzz

EchoVision · Post Post #338 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:00 am

In post 335, Iconeum wrote:Rawr!

Catching up later today but consider me vla for thé next week

Irl stuff

VOTE: ico

EchoVision · Post Post #340 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:09 am

arachnids, ico, assembler all disappeared
i'd like to rock herta's shit
i don't want to rock herta's shit yet because there's three people that just don't exist anymore

nobody else is doing anything that crazy to me
i have nowhere i really

want

to vote aorn aside from herta

maybe i'll do a re-read later, but i'm in class right now so give me a bit so i can not pay attention

EchoVision · Post Post #350 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:45 pm

In post 349, Herta wrote:
In post 343, shellyc wrote:Herta's reaction is basically "you got me for the wrong reasons" which isn't a town mindset, it's a survivalist one. Instead of providing content when the spotlight was on them they flailed. And that is why we should all get herta NOW.
You're essentially co-opting username's reasoning as your own after admitting that you overreacted in the first place. That's not a villagery mindset. That's a wolf who got caught without cover.

VOTE: Shelly

wolf oo faction slip?
jk
or am i

EchoVision · Post Post #351 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:56 pm

has wiyvern come in yet
i think ico posted once but nothing actually of content
come here you fucks

EchoVision · Post Post #373 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:22 am

In post 369, Iconeum wrote:who thinks i'm scum for this?

me

EchoVision · Post Post #381 (isolation #58) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:14 am

there's so many people i'd love to hear from
randy
titus
username
assembler
ico
wiyvern but he said he's gettin there
zzzzzzzzzzzz

EchoVision · Post Post #383 (isolation #59) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:13 am

hi titus how is your day going today

EchoVision · Post Post #401 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:35 pm

In post 390, Herta wrote:
In post 377, wiyvern wrote:I'll prolly be giving a full reads list later today when I find some time after my classes
Just a few would do. I'll start one for you:

Town

Primate: has a developed analysis in his posts -- 170, 175, 215, 334 -- he's the only one thinking about multi-scum factions
Titus: wagonomics approach, villagery mindset -- she is a never yeet -- 318, 319, 322, 387 all come from town
NPOM: Claim and only because of his claim

null: everyone else

null Scum: Ranny -- his push on echovision is bad

scum: ShellyC -- see post 349 -- she's out for blood and it's gone beyond tunneling -- she's fond of saying the things that she does is "strictly NAI", see 150, 287, 355

why does scum!ranny push me tho

EchoVision · Post Post #409 (isolation #61) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:02 am

In post 401, EchoVision wrote:
In post 390, Herta wrote:
In post 377, wiyvern wrote:I'll prolly be giving a full reads list later today when I find some time after my classes
Just a few would do. I'll start one for you:

Town

Primate: has a developed analysis in his posts -- 170, 175, 215, 334 -- he's the only one thinking about multi-scum factions
Titus: wagonomics approach, villagery mindset -- she is a never yeet -- 318, 319, 322, 387 all come from town
NPOM: Claim and only because of his claim

null: everyone else

null Scum: Ranny -- his push on echovision is bad

scum: ShellyC -- see post 349 -- she's out for blood and it's gone beyond tunneling -- she's fond of saying the things that she does is "strictly NAI", see 150, 287, 355
why does scum!ranny push me tho

@herta
what reason does scum!ranny have to push me as opposed to pushing someone like you who's on the chopping block

EchoVision · Post Post #416 (isolation #62) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:38 am

titus talk me through why ranny votes me and not hecta here when he's said that he sr's hecta and just wants to hammer
scum from a diff faction (if multi which i feel like it has to be) looking for hammer, and thus likely not association with the red flip?

EchoVision · Post Post #422 (isolation #63) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:00 am

In post 416, EchoVision wrote:titus talk me through why ranny votes me and not hecta here when he's said that he sr's hecta and just wants to hammer
scum from a diff faction (if multi which i feel like it has to be) looking for hammer, and thus likely not association with the red flip?

what do you think motivation behind ranny pushing hecta without voting is? hecta seems fine with hammering ranny though

in my eyes i see scum!ranny pushing scum!hecta, but scum!hecta is a different faction than scum!ranny

if it's multiball which i'm assuming it is from the wiki on great idea, i could very well be wrong though

scum!ranny gets townpoints for hammering scum and then we don't look at ranny anymore in his eyes
ranny, due to hammer, is thus not associated with hecta if hecta flips red

EchoVision · Post Post #423 (isolation #64) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:00 am

does that make sense or do i need to resort to an analogy bc i love analogies

EchoVision · Post Post #425 (isolation #65) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:12 am

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i want a vc so i can vote ranny and not feel bad

EchoVision · Post Post #448 (isolation #66) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:58 am

In post 427, Noraa wrote:
In post 425, EchoVision wrote:page top
i want a vc so i can vote ranny and not feel bad
you just defended ranny and called them town and now u flip just like that?

???
i said this is probably why he did it
and the this included him being scum
???????

EchoVision · Post Post #449 (isolation #67) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:01 pm

In post 428, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Why would you feel bad about voting a scumread?

same reason i didn’t vote herta before— there’s two slots who just don’t exist STILL so i didn’t want to push the wagon super duper far without them existing
VOTE: ranny but i’m sick of their shit i’m going through switch vote withdrawal

EchoVision · Post Post #450 (isolation #68) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:03 pm

their = inactives

EchoVision · Post Post #453 (isolation #69) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:12 pm

3 of those are in the first 100 posts... do you expect game solves in their place?

EchoVision · Post Post #494 (isolation #70) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:42 am

In post 475, shellyc wrote:
In post 449, EchoVision wrote:same reason i didn’t vote herta before— there’s two slots who just don’t exist STILL so i didn’t want to push the wagon super duper far without them existing
VOTE: ranny but i’m sick of their shit i’m going through switch vote withdrawal
echo why are you wagon hopping like crazy

you know i wagon hop like crazy especially d1
it's fun to wagon hop

EchoVision · Post Post #496 (isolation #71) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:45 am

fuck we still have a week before deadline
zzzzzzzz
who we killin today boys and girls
VOTE: ranny

EchoVision · Post Post #503 (isolation #72) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:23 am

In post 501, Rannygazoo wrote:Here it is again. How are these two posts functionally different:

In post 496, EchoVision wrote:fuck we still have a week before deadline
zzzzzzzz
who we killin today boys and girls

In post 398, Rannygazoo wrote:So uh

It kind of feels like the day is winding down. I was hoping Herta would convince us to move the wagon but it looks like he won’t.

I don’t know what to do except wait for the prods/replacements to catch up. I’m still willing to hammer herta if it comes to it but I’d like to hear from ico and assemble before that happens.
I feel like I want RC to answer this

how are these similar?
i'm complaining about the game being slow and saying it's going to go on for longer, you're being cautious and saying that the day is functionally almost over

i ask who we're killing, you say you're killing herta (but only hammer cause you want town points!)

i don't see how you can make the argument that these are similar in the slightest

EchoVision · Post Post #504 (isolation #73) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:24 am

ev is me
echo
vision

rc is redcardinal
red
cardinal

EchoVision · Post Post #508 (isolation #74) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:45 am

In post 505, Rannygazoo wrote:Two can play this game: I state that I’d be willing to hammer a wagon that I’m not in to end the day. You say that you’re willing to sheep whichever way town goes today (but only because you want town points!)

i'm not trying to play a game i think your comparison was stupid and not thought out
you explicitly stated that you would hammer one person
i asked an open ended question, "who are we killing today" which i ask consistently and i def think i've asked in this game
why are you being so sassy

EchoVision · Post Post #509 (isolation #75) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:45 am

In post 507, Noraa wrote:
In post 504, EchoVision wrote:ev is me
echo
vision

rc is redcardinal
red
cardinal
ewwwwwww call echovision echo or jellyfishie cuz those r definitely superior.
redcardinal meh u can go with rc

no rc is bad RC = RadiantCowbells who i haven't seen in years so idk if they even still exist

EchoVision · Post Post #555 (isolation #76) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:22 pm

In post 553, Noraa wrote:But also generally town players like Ranny get better as the days go on. They generally create better content in like limlo and stuff.

in my experience players like ranny don't make it to lylo

EchoVision · Post Post #689 (isolation #77) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:36 am

In post 579, Noraa wrote:I do have a history of pushing and tunneling town hard

you don't say smh

EchoVision · Post Post #690 (isolation #78) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:43 am

In post 607, Noraa wrote:ok so shelly is still on herta but constantly throwing shade at ranny. interesting.

i don't think it's that interesting
two scum reads
one is more confident than the other i'd imagine

EchoVision · Post Post #691 (isolation #79) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:44 am

In post 608, Titus wrote:
In post 598, Primate wrote:Titus who should I be voting for.
Not sure. Either Ranny or shelly but they are not teamed. Gtmh shelly but i am not certain or else I would be voting there.

yeah titus is lock town thank u and good night

EchoVision · Post Post #693 (isolation #80) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:46 am

also shelly's null for me right now
which means shelly's prob town

whenever shelly's scum she pockets me and makes me town read her but i don't really read her this game but i haven't paid much attention to her because she hasn't pocketed me yet

part gut, also i like the uncertainty for town!titus
i'm thinkin scum is more certain on someone
the fact that her vote isn't down doesn't strike me as being careful, it reads with different intention

EchoVision · Post Post #694 (isolation #81) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:47 am

In post 619, SirCakez wrote:
MURDERCAT replaces Assemble!

hi murder i missed u
let's keep you alive into d2 okay? thank u

EchoVision · Post Post #695 (isolation #82) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:50 am

In post 631, shellyc wrote:
In post 629, Noraa wrote:huh no I'm not
this is the noraa case against me:
"player X is scum because they're playing in a protown way"
"player X is scum because they're sussing me"
"Noraa votes redcardinal"
"ah but I'm sussing player Y because they sus player X"

scum shelly doesn't defend herself this hard and shelly's been sus to noraa all game
scum shelly goes noraa shhhh then pockets noraa

long story short i think shelly's town because i don't know if shelly's town

EchoVision · Post Post #696 (isolation #83) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:52 am

In post 643, shellyc wrote:
In post 640, Noraa wrote:
In post 637, shellyc wrote:
In post 634, shellyc wrote:the next step is to sort noraa which i cant because noraa's actually a pretty good scumplayer
also their trajectories as town are super weird and (no offense) incapable of obvtowning a lot of the time
you found the need to add on that its actually *GASP* possible that I am town?
I just think ur scum that realized u threw too much shade and backtracked like this
unlike you I do not have tmi

also you love meta, my scum play consists of hard tunnelling and taking strong action a lot of the time (and you know it). i almost never backtrack as scum

u fuck i hate this post

EchoVision · Post Post #697 (isolation #84) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:53 am

In post 647, shellyc wrote:yes

Noraa constantly says herta/ranny are "not preferred" and "meh"
lightbulb moment that the solve is Noraa/herta/ranny (?)

is the 3 the game?
or is that one fac
or what
how many players are here, 13?
i guess 3 makes sense but i'm thinkin 4 at the least so who's your fourth
or do you think mb

EchoVision · Post Post #698 (isolation #85) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:54 am

In post 650, MURDERCAT wrote:I mean you should know from Roses that town Noraa can produce bad tunneled reads, what makes you think this is different?

sayyyy lesssssssssss

EchoVision · Post Post #699 (isolation #86) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:55 am

In post 655, Noraa wrote:Im not engaging you any more. I've made it clear that I think you are scum but rn you are a vanity wagon so stop asking me.

noraa is your pfp a selfie

EchoVision · Post Post #700 (isolation #87) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:56 am

In post 663, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 132, shellyc wrote:Town
username - efforts to solve renny and move the game out of RVS is protown
titus - engaging noraa instead of chilling off and further the game is protown
npom - because of claim
noraa - gut town + critical thinking and paranoia in 129

TBD
everyone else

i prefer to find town early on and PoE this through tbh
Based on roses this feels different than scum shelly but I need to meta because I know she has a strong scum game

like i said scum shelly pockets me, but shelly hasn't pocketed anyone because she's been busy defending from noraa as far as i know
then again that's what the past like four fuckin pages have been so it's fresh in my mind zzzzzzzzzzzz

EchoVision · Post Post #701 (isolation #88) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:58 am

In post 671, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 275, Titus wrote:If Herta is scum, then I expect one of Echo and/or Ico to be scum too.
I will random gen some setups later but I still feel like we shouldn't be looking for associations like this yet

someone did random gens, but i'm sure you read that in your catch ups

EchoVision · Post Post #702 (isolation #89) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:00 am

In post 687, Noraa wrote:Oh wait why am I still on red cardinal?

booooooo
-1
why wouldn't you vote shelly here then

EchoVision · Post Post #703 (isolation #90) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:01 am

murder i'm upset that you haven't even said hi to me yet fine fuck you smh

EchoVision · Post Post #708 (isolation #91) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:25 am

In post 704, Noraa wrote:I think its time to start this wagon. I'm not a fan of the other two tho I'm willing to be a space filler on those wagons if need be.

VOTE: Shelly

this one is 100% not town imo. Not sure if she's scum but I'm certain she is not town. she could be like a werewolf or some other weird shit but I'm really sure she isnt town.

smh only voting after i gave you shit for not voting her

EchoVision · Post Post #857 (isolation #92) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:22 am

In post 763, MURDERCAT wrote:I ran some back of the envelope numbers to see what we are dealing with. They aren't perfect because of stuff like alien sympathizer but I did take into account that there must be town majority.

Num of scum factions: % likelihood

1: 4%
2: 26%
3: 44%
4: 22%
5: 3%
6: <1% (though amazingly possible with town majority)

Dear scum, please cross kill thanks

huh so it's

veryyyy

likely multiball

EchoVision · Post Post #858 (isolation #93) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:23 am

In post 769, Titus wrote:Someone asked for my reads list. Here goes

Rannygazoo - Weak lean town. I can see both sides getting frustrated by the smartass comments I did but my gut says town.
Herta - Easily picked on town.
redcardinal - At least scumhunting. No interest in executing here today.
shellyc - Scummy. Her explanation for voting Herta while pushing Rangy seems scummy and an attempt to dodge VCA or take responsibility for her push later. She wants town to mislynch for her. VOTE: shellyc
iamausername - Same as redcardinal.
Titus - A perfect angel
Primate - I like what he's posted but I'd like to see him more.
Wiyvern* arachnidsGrip - Lurking. Would compromise hrre.
Iconeum* - Same as Wiyvern.
Assemblerotws* - Same as Wivern.
NoPowerOverMe - Same as Primate.
EchoVision - Same as redcardinal.
Noraa - Pretty obvtown.

meh these seem lazy
just to double check your lynchpool is {shelly, ico, wiyvern}?
meh

EchoVision · Post Post #860 (isolation #94) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:40 am

In post 839, Noraa wrote:
In post 836, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 831, NoPowerOverMe wrote:There's a reason for that. Is it better to focus on setup WIFOM or actual scumhunting?
This is why I don't like your posts. What scum hunting are you doing? You saw the misconceptions that Noraa had that
I
had to clear up even though the claim happened page 1. Honestly it makes me concerns that Titus is scum because I know she is a strong player and I feel like she should be leading more
Titus is a strong player? O_o

yeah titus is jacked
benches 330

EchoVision · Post Post #891 (isolation #95) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:45 am

In post 890, Rannygazoo wrote:Personally I’m expecting far more scum in this game than others have accounted for

why bc you know how many are in your faction so you're expecting more in other facs?

EchoVision · Post Post #909 (isolation #96) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:54 am

hi plus
hi italiano
but hi plus more bc i know plus

EchoVision · Post Post #976 (isolation #97) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:19 pm

In post 913, PlusJOYED wrote:yo

sup boo

EchoVision · Post Post #979 (isolation #98) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:24 pm

In post 925, ItalianoVD wrote:The ones who I’m townleaning at the moment are: Titus, Noraa, Echo, Herta

Null: PlusJOYED, ico, MURDERCAT,

Scum or Anti-town: Ranny, red, username, NPOM

why are you townleaning titus and myself
noraa i understand, you went over it a little bit
herta you went over a lil bit but eh
herta's been townier the past bit since the avi change so i'm just looking in a diff direction

EchoVision · Post Post #980 (isolation #99) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:28 pm

In post 940, Rannygazoo wrote:I am Town Fruit Vendor. I'll visit <a townread that I hope won't be killed at night> to prove myself.

@Italiano: look at me I'm so town

you're at L-2 why claim what

also ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh there's a mafia fruit vendor too idk if i like that
i'ma finish my catchup and see if i still wanna vote you

EchoVision · Post Post #981 (isolation #100) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:30 pm

In post 951, Noraa wrote:someone should unvote cuz town fruit vendor is indeed possible. No way to prove it but it'd be dumb to lim someone who claims a provable power role today.

why would they unvote if he's only at l-2

and yeah it's a provable "power role" but it's alignment is not provable

EchoVision · Post Post #982 (isolation #101) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:31 pm

In post 952, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 948, Noraa wrote:can't fruit vendors be scum?
If mafia fruit vendor is vending, then they’re not killing, right? That’s how games work outside of newbie, right?

multitasking is enabled, it's in like post 3

EchoVision · Post Post #983 (isolation #102) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:34 pm

In post 964, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 958, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 917, PlusJOYED wrote:yall are gonna get a low effort joyed this game, sorry
I looked through the list and I saw that there wasn't a mafia/antitown king, all i saw was a 1shot kingmaker. So I'm gonna be upfront so if we have a king they don't kill themselves: this game I rolled hero.
Probably gonna be more like a vt but whatever.
This seems like a town claim to me considering there is no pressure on plus
I’m thinking so. I wonder what Noraa and Echo think? They said they know him.

yeah there's no reason for scum plus to claim something weird like this

that being said i do expect plus to make it late game now because his role doesn't do anything without a kingmaker and he's said himself that he's going to be "low-effort"

EchoVision · Post Post #984 (isolation #103) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:35 pm

In post 977, MURDERCAT wrote:Echo you seem quiet this game, what's on your mind

yeah i've been slowly seeing my way off of this site
plus i was depressed because my bills lost today so i took a long nap

EchoVision · Post Post #985 (isolation #104) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:39 pm

In post 973, Titus wrote:
In post 972, MURDERCAT wrote:Is it useful to confirm the role when it could be scum aligned?
There's all this talk about could be scum.

We have him confirm. It's one day. Then we know that he's screwed if he's ever the last scum on his team.

even if multitasking wasn't a thing wouldn't he have to be the very last scum standing in the entirety of the game if multiball too
cause we don't know what fac killed who as far as i know

idk if ranny does flip red i don't like titus and noraa defending him on a useless claim

EchoVision · Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:13 am

In post 1059, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1034, Rannygazoo wrote:
I am an Innocent Child

Rannygazoo is confirmed to be aligned with the Town!

UNVOTE:

EchoVision · Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:13 am

in class rn, i'll catch up in a bit
just was really curious to see if IC claim was real or not

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:48 am

In post 1275, MURDERCAT wrote:
Requesting a prod for echo

Just because we are so close to deadline

no

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:53 am

In post 1192, NoPowerOverMe wrote:A day one no elimination isn't the worst thing in the world.

+1

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:58 am

In post 1205, Noraa wrote:User is townblocked

that's...
that's not quite what a townblock is

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:00 am

In post 1231, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 1227, MURDERCAT wrote:I don't hate moving onto red, but FMPOV both wagons are town led and the one I'm on is town led by someone who didn't almost get hammered as IC..

What are you seeing from red that makes you think scum more so than username?
After doing their ISO’s, ehh, they’re actually pretty equal. Red’s highlight is the weirdness of the Noraa/shelly (my slot) interaction. Username’s highlight is his goofy 76 where apparently Ranny passes a test only to get voted on again for lol purposes in 530 and got to L1. I’d be very okay voting for others, but unfortunately they aren’t wagons right now.

VOTE: Username
That’s L-1

wtf
why are you all over the place on username

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:01 am

In post 1231, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 1227, MURDERCAT wrote:I don't hate moving onto red, but FMPOV both wagons are town led and the one I'm on is town led by someone who didn't almost get hammered as IC..

What are you seeing from red that makes you think scum more so than username?
After doing their ISO’s, ehh, they’re actually pretty equal. Red’s highlight is the weirdness of the Noraa/shelly (my slot) interaction. Username’s highlight is his goofy 76 where apparently Ranny passes a test only to get voted on again for lol purposes in 530 and got to L1. I’d be very okay voting for others, but unfortunately they aren’t wagons right now.

VOTE: Username
That’s L-1

this is so scummy
is this real
what

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:01 am

In post 1239, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 763, MURDERCAT wrote:Dear scum, please cross kill thanks
I think I might be eating lead tonight if this doesn't happen. Or claws?

white claws?
usually you drink those, not eat

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:02 am

In post 1241, MURDERCAT wrote:It's true, echo absent pings me the most of the others, but he did say he was in the process of siteflaking

that's me!

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:04 am

In post 1265, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 1261, MURDERCAT wrote:BS, I started the whole wagon even before ranny was outed
And yet you didn’t want to be on the wagon this late. Gotta see it through. You were so convinced. It strange how a Plus iso, which gives you nothing is enough to jump off.

he didn't jump onto plus though
he jumped onto red
not because he scumread red
because he wanted red in the thread
look at these rhymes wtf i'm killin it

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:05 am

In post 1275, MURDERCAT wrote:
Requesting a prod for echo

Just because we are so close to deadline

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:09 am

yeah this slot's interesting
VOTE: italiano

idk how this is still alive tbh
like it's on the verge of too scummy to be scummy the past like three pages
it wasn't bad at the beginning of the replacement but yikes

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:10 am

if we don't go italiano i'm fine with a no lynch tho and we can re-examine tomorrow because today's kinda been boring as fuck and i don't really have anything else to contribute
there's not really anybody that i'm lock scum on nor lock town and i feel like a bunch of people are in the same boat

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:17 pm

In post 1309, Primate wrote:btw

fos anyone that has scumread on echo

that slots town as balls.

why

EchoVision · Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:19 pm

why is no elim bad

EchoVision · Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:51 am

VOTE: italiano
die scummy scum die

EchoVision · Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:47 pm

In post 1386, MURDERCAT wrote:ok so I'm bad. Noraa that was the sickest soul read I've ever seen.

Lol at the IC living. 2 scum teams? Or maybe 1 SK? Or maybe a vig?

could be 3 still

EchoVision · Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:49 pm

In post 1398, redcardinal wrote:sheeping murdercat VOTE: Plusjoyed

what a mood

EchoVision · Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:20 am

In post 1423, MURDERCAT wrote:I will put effort into this game sometime.

I hope Noraa is reading this because I'm still floored by that soul read.

Echo, you like playing scum or town more?

that's irrelevant i haven't rolled scum in like three years
i think i only have like one scum game ever but iirc it was p fun so i'ma go with scum

EchoVision · Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:26 am

plus seems easy here
i don't like easy and i believe the hero claim

that being said i got nothin with this game

nah not really sorry i was taking forever to write that message cause we're smelling different colognes

EchoVision · Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:27 am

i'm playing safe this game what the fuck is wrong with me
i haven't random voted enough people
VOTE: npom

EchoVision · Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:12 am

it's been a few hours time to switch
VOTE: iconeum

EchoVision · Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:14 am

In post 1163, Iconeum wrote:hi noraa

are you scumreading me yet?

hey titus

we meet again

lol scum teams said fuck your greetings i guess
interesting

EchoVision · Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:15 am

meh yeah i'm actually fine with ico vote rn

EchoVision · Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:15 am

just been solely pushing + and + seems very lhf and a very low effort elim
not a fan

EchoVision · Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:44 pm

In post 1469, Rannygazoo wrote:So what do you want to do with plus, then? Are you going to kill them at night?

if he does get NK'd i think that's actually pretty great for town
not a huge loss for us and we don't have to bother sorting him

EchoVision · Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:44 pm

In post 1484, Herta wrote:
In post 1462, EchoVision wrote:i'm playing safe this game what the fuck is wrong with me
i haven't random voted enough people
VOTE: npom

In post 1463, EchoVision wrote:it's been a few hours time to switch
VOTE: iconeum
dude makes my head spin but probably nai

EchoVision · Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:45 pm

In post 1488, Herta wrote:
In post 1461, EchoVision wrote:plus seems easy here
i don't like easy and i believe the hero claim

that being said i got nothin with this game

nah not really sorry i was taking forever to write that message cause we're smelling different colognes
What does it being easy tell you?

the wagon is bad news bears
that's why i want nothing to do with it

but this game is a very low effort game for me so i'ma just vibe and go with the flow

EchoVision · Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:42 am

i’m not really town reading him i’m just not scum reading him

EchoVision · Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:38 am

this games going nowhere idek if a new day will help it but damn
VOTE: plusjoyed i suppose

a null read lynch is better than a town read lynch i guess
plus i don’t see anything happening in the next week so

EchoVision · Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:12 pm

hi i'm here
just gonna say dw about staying alive murder
i'll claim when popcorned but i only really log onto the site once a day now so it might take me a bit

are we thinkin 2nd night in a row with 2 NKs solidifies 2 teams/bad guys/bad guy groups bc that's what i'm thinkin

lets hope cross kills pop up n3 then

EchoVision · Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:14 pm

page top

EchoVision · Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:24 pm

In post 1658, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Fuck it.

VOTE: Primate

I hate wasting an elim here but we can't really get around it looking long term.

nope

EchoVision · Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:25 pm

ico you're up dog

EchoVision · Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:29 pm

page top 2

EchoVision · Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:14 am

i don't like that you were on red both nights especially when there was two kills n1, why wouldn't you try and block an NK

EchoVision · Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:14 am

murder aka dad
do you want me claiming yet or nah

EchoVision · Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:21 am

i wanna wait till i get a reason for both nights on red because there is a valid answer but idk if he's got the valid answer
i'd like to not claim but i think me saying that myself is bad news bears in and of itself

EchoVision · Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:06 pm

yuh yuh yuh i’m a town doc
i hit up murder both nights because i wanted to keep murder alive past d1 and murders a strong town player

EchoVision · Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:18 pm

In post 1738, MURDERCAT wrote:I'm inclined to believe this because otherwise echo is just dead if I die tonight?

What's our worst case right now? Probably 1 mafia and 2 werewolf? Let's say we hit the mafia today and 2 werewolves are left, we go to 5:2 (primate) and town is still alive? Is there a worse case than that where we are dead even if we hit today?

tonight it’s either you or me dead and it’s up to me to decide
yikes
i think i’m dead by the end of tomorrow regardless to be honest

EchoVision · Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:42 am

fuck i wanna flip npom

EchoVision · Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:50 pm

because that’s not scum murdercat
town murdercat is good
i wanted town murdercat alive
i didn’t really care about the confirmed townie
town murdercat is better at the game and i trust more to play the game well and hunt well

EchoVision · Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:51 pm

and i will not commit because id rather keep scum bois guessing on who i’m doccing out of me and you
if i go “yeah ima doc murder tonight”
then i get my shit rocked
or i can doc myself instead and not get my shit rocked
but you get your shit rocked
so who’s gonna get their shit rocked?
prob both of us

EchoVision · Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:52 pm

In post 1800, Herta wrote:
In post 1777, EchoVision wrote:fuck i wanna flip npom
Why is this scho?

bc i hate the free pass that he’s getting for doing nothing helpful and i’m jealous cause i want that pass smh

EchoVision · Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:28 pm

i have confirmation that i’m allowed to self protect

EchoVision · Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:28 am

In post 1829, Iconeum wrote:i can buy the doc claim

i can buy you targeting Murdercat

i can even buy you can self-target

but all of this un-gated? As 'proven' by your claim of having targeted MC twice in a row?

hmmmmm

idk what ungated means

EchoVision · Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:31 am

im strictly a town doctor
no ifs ands or buts about it
i am allowed to target one person every night
that person will be protected if a kill were to be aimed at them

pedit yeah that's not me

EchoVision · Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:33 am

In post 1845, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1843, iamausername wrote:anyway, i have PMd the mod to ask if a hypothetical doctor would be able to self-protect, and since this is an open setup, i see no reason why this wouldn't be answered.

i expect that if Echo was scum he would have done the same before claiming to be a doc that could self protect, but i guess maybe he thought that was standard until people started questioning it
i expect that a doc that can self-heal would be informed in their role pm (because it not being normal), and apparently they had to check with the mod to know this so??

when did i say i had to check with the mod?
i said "i have confirmation of this"

EchoVision · Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:28 am

In post 1881, iamausername wrote:if we're all willing to agree that NPOM is town, then the plan should probably look something like this

we execute Primate today.

Murdercat blocks me, Echo protects him. the only people who can die in that scenario are NPOM or Echo. if Echo dies, Murdercat must be scum. if NPOM dies, i am cleared, and make the deciding vote for town. no pressure.

if nobody dies, execute me. Murdercat blocks Echo. Echo protects one or the other of NPOM or himself. this could be game over if and only if Murdercat is scum and guesses correctly on who Echo is protecting.

otherwise, we go to 3p with NPOM, Murdercat, Echo, and NPOM makes the deciding vote for town. no pressure.

i mean, i think this plan just wins the game by executing the last remaining scum, Primate, but it still gives us decent odds if Murdercat or Echo are the sneaky scumbag.

a rb that results in no kill isn’t necessarily a successful rb, since we have a doc in this case

EchoVision · Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:32 am

In post 1881, iamausername wrote:if we're all willing to agree that NPOM is town, then the plan should probably look something like this

we execute Primate today.

Murdercat blocks me, Echo protects him. the only people who can die in that scenario are NPOM or Echo. if Echo dies, Murdercat must be scum. if NPOM dies, i am cleared, and make the deciding vote for town. no pressure.

if nobody dies, execute me. Murdercat blocks Echo. Echo protects one or the other of NPOM or himself. this could be game over if and only if Murdercat is scum and guesses correctly on who Echo is protecting.

otherwise, we go to 3p with NPOM, Murdercat, Echo, and NPOM makes the deciding vote for town. no pressure.

i mean, i think this plan just wins the game by executing the last remaining scum, Primate, but it still gives us decent odds if Murdercat or Echo are the sneaky scumbag.

In post 1886, iamausername wrote:
In post 1884, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1881, iamausername wrote:if we're all willing to agree that NPOM is town
This isn't the read I am willing to bet the game on, at least not yet
ok, well, i am. NPOM makes the kill N1, always.

weren’t we talking about ways NPOM could be cleared?
if someone watches the N1 kill and sees that two people visited whoever was killed that clears NPOM as town
or in this case since he knew his claim was iffy he was aware that someone could do something to him that might clear him

i actually don’t see a reason that NPOM makes the N1 kill ever

EchoVision · Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:34 am

In post 1881, iamausername wrote:if we're all willing to agree that NPOM is town, then the plan should probably look something like this

we execute Primate today.

Murdercat blocks me, Echo protects him. the only people who can die in that scenario are NPOM or Echo. if Echo dies, Murdercat must be scum. if NPOM dies, i am cleared, and make the deciding vote for town. no pressure.

if nobody dies, execute me. Murdercat blocks Echo. Echo protects one or the other of NPOM or himself. this could be game over if and only if Murdercat is scum and guesses correctly on who Echo is protecting.

otherwise, we go to 3p with NPOM, Murdercat, Echo, and NPOM makes the deciding vote for town. no pressure.

i mean, i think this plan just wins the game by executing the last remaining scum, Primate, but it still gives us decent odds if Murdercat or Echo are the sneaky scumbag.

In post 1886, iamausername wrote:
In post 1884, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1881, iamausername wrote:if we're all willing to agree that NPOM is town
This isn't the read I am willing to bet the game on, at least not yet
ok, well, i am. NPOM makes the kill N1, always.

In post 1893, Primate wrote:
In post 1891, MURDERCAT wrote:This is something I've had deep deep in the back of my mind. It's that primate suggested a mass claim on day 2. Why would a survivor want an early mass claim?
I was talking from a general persepective. I would have falseclaimed.

I think username's plan is broadly correct. My only concern with it is that it asks us to clear NPOM, which I don't know if I'm prepared to do knowing the last scum is werewolf. I think it's likely that they'd be the murderer, but I don't think it's as nailed on as people are talking about.

I think people aren't talking about the Iconeum kill enough. I think from my perspective that was a really odd kill.

did i miss something?
how do you know last scum is a werewolf?

EchoVision · Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:34 am

wtf i hate this site

EchoVision · Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:30 am

you’re tunneling too much on the idea of only one scum team left
don’t we have “two role blockers” and a doctor?
there’s actually so many ways that only 1 NK goes through last night

EchoVision · Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:30 am

murder why are you not suspecting whoever you RBd last night?
same with user?
or why do we think they didn’t target my doc target?

EchoVision · Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:33 am

you’re not actually taking into account any of the claims for their use from yesterday
we literally have a protectorate AND TWO blockers and you’re amazed that there was only 1 kill and you’re certain that there’s only one faction left
i’m thinking one of you two isn’t actually a roleblocker

EchoVision · Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:34 am

oh wait it wasn’t user that claimed roleblocker
regardless we have a role blocker and a protectorate

EchoVision · Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:19 am

it’s not hypothetically possible, it’s actually very likely
murder why’s user cleared? because you blocked him N2? why does that clear him?

EchoVision · Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:26 am

your reason for thinking there’s only 1 scum left is so flawed

EchoVision · Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:28 am

like it’s leading me to believe that your rb claim was fake
why do you have zero confidence that you roleblocked and blocked a kill
why do you have zero confidence that my doc didn’t protect somebody
why do you have zero confidence that both groups didn’t target the same person

EchoVision · Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:55 pm

In post 2036, MURDERCAT wrote:Also, this is me not hammering echo by the way, which I think greatly limits the possibility that username and I are scum together

:thumbs_down:

EchoVision · Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:56 pm

In post 2041, MURDERCAT wrote:Where you at echo I see you've been online

i don't actually come online i open chrome on my phone and mafia is an open tab so it's like yeah hi you're online

EchoVision · Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:58 pm

In post 2039, Primate wrote:I mean it makes sense now you're not hammering, ha. These are my general thoughts.

The Claim: I think it implies that echo is actually a doctor. I think the possibilty that Echo is a mafia doc is probably correct but I don't necessarily think they're mafia.
The Nightactions: v weird, scummy.
The nightkills: I don't think these go either way. Redcardinal was suspicious of herta, so that probably happened, leaving echo with Nora/titus and ranny, which isn't interesting. Iconeum was super anti-echo and the end of yesterday, so it makes sense as a kill from that perspective.
The Connections: The stuff below is the kind of thing that makes me reckon there could be something there. Lots of shelley having Echo as their second elim target and then not doing anything with it. From echo it's less cut and dry, I think the IVD push was honestly fine.

claim ye
night actions ur mom
nightkills are wifom, it's so easy for scum to be like "yo red is super sus on herta, so let's kill red so that herta get's shit for it" so no
connections i didn't read

EchoVision · Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:02 pm

In post 2067, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Has echo claimed his visit last night

i did murder again i'm a math major i like patterns

EchoVision · Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:34 am

gg
peace out ms