Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

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and how fun is an 18 hour vanity flashwagon

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of those 3 I'd be by far the most ok with maid if im only considering likelihood of flipping red

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and i skipped all the leashing talk, ill let yall lead that one if thats how we're dealing with that slot

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Something something data for the data gods.

Vanity and flash wagon don’t go together. I don’t think he is a good option for today.

it's not like we only have wagonomics on our side? we have 150+ pages peppered with peoples opinions of s_s

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huh?

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i feel so ignored :^(

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for my money I'd say pr hunting on the ss kill

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happy birthday notty !!!!!!!!!!!!

NS’s TR is mostly meta based there so I didn’t really try to read Rem

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(meta and figuring the odds of bork snowing me+morph were v low)

this still worries me a bunch

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personally

VOTE: Something smart

I actually missed this because ffery read it and so I didn't get my p-edit warning, i'll be back once I'm done wrapping her half of the claws in plastic wrap.


You DID speak a name into the ether... but are they actually that much higher on the tree of scum-fruit we all seem to be eating from?

can you elaborate a little bit on what you're getting at here?

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Why the fuck did we eliminate Alisae, did anyone seriously think they were that scummy??

I guess I didn’t really try today so I can’t talk, maybe I’ll put more effort into this D2.

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I just fired off half of my anti-torpedo underwater flares at this post. That's how big of a radar signature it set off.

...I scum read alisae. >.>

I did at first, but not at second.

It doesn't matter though. Gamestate is what gamestate was.

Data for the data gods.

@anyone what do you make of these two posts a minute and a half apart?

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figure it's never too early in the day to pull something out of the scum handbook by distancing myself from the night kill, but really... not a kill i was expecting

you've been doing that a lot

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So, midways-to-sliding-out-of-townblock-bear.... let's talk about your meta tell I claimed I had on you, and how it was inaccurate and you knew that but didn't bother to correct me!

ego

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oh yea that haha my st read is for sure lazy

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there is a small chance that it was some PR's effect that silenced or that this is part of the kamikaze vig effect but I think that is very unlikely

did you think of this before or after you posted?

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With that said, as of yesterday, I was seeing them in the same "Low Hanging Fruit" basket that we had the other global-scum-reads in, if not barely above it.

if only to avoid posing another open question.. how much consensus would you say this take had? would others have considered ss to be lhf-adjacent?

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sad about my flashwagon dreams then sigh

rip alisae

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there is an extemely high chance of a scum being within maid, ST, or remi

This is probably true, but I don't really want to take a risk and go remi/ST today

how much probably, and how much risky?

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hm. that was a direct response to 4174, I could have quoted it. I'm not familiar with the assassin meme but I was imagining something that looked like one of those by-deduction word problems in paperback puzzlebooks, only with colours.

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i mean i feel like I inferred enough from the "more red than green" part alone

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@joyed i forgot you were the one to link the wiki

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petapan absolutely snowed me as my neighbour and humiliated my extremely stoned ass in limlo in a recent marathon lmao

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bork what's your take on the whole mafia silencer theory

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Is no one else going to ask why instead of chains swing the fuck out of plus April is now scumreading him with bulge in their highest townreads

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I’m skimming at work

i figure the best way to stop april from scumreading me is to wait 5 minutes

maaan i feel you

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fun fact: my original joindate is the second oldest at the table, less than 2 weeks after zee muffin man

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huh bell what's up

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hi

this week has been shit

i lazily read along a bit. can confirm the sanctuary neighbourhood. can confirm i am town. pce for now

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what was your claim again plusjoyed

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specifically?

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sorry all, my mental health has been wack. havent had a day where i feel composed enough to put any serious work in here but i think today is the day.

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actually i guess alisae's flavour runs counter to that theory so maybe not

"crossing the line"

I was thinking along these lines. maybe crossing the line as in breaking the ice? being the first to step in and take a friend's problem seriously?

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did dracula say that or is it from the book dracula

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probably won't do a big post or anything but I still need to get my head back in it

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depends how much longer I'm up tonight i guess

thank you <3

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tbh the softconf status sorta messes with my standing in the game a lot personally. gonna have to approach this game differently than I was

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honestly I've been liking iv's recent posting more but I think I have to go back and pay more attention to his earlier stuff. as wary notty is of this whole plist essentially, I've won against him in all 3 games we have played together since I came back, so I knew he would be approaching me with caution as either alignment this game. I'm not a meta guy but it's throwing me off a lot, our dynamic is very different this game than it has been in any of our previous.

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maybe that just means we're finally same alignment lol

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I'm Being Present, vt.

...I'll be here in an hour-ish

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I'm Being Present

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actually present now

i'll read eventually but what's happening

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Is that exclusive to vt or is it the town-aligned flavour?

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sorry where does cabd factor in here

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I have about 40 pages of reading to do if I want to understand what happened today. probably close to 80 to fully catch up. I feel so wildly lost in any game where i'm not 100% read and caught up. and I'm sorry for what an inactive slot in my position does to the state of the game. i wanna say more in post-game but i guess that's it for now. i won't make any more promises for now. I am sorry, this is not even a little bit how i wanted to play this game or any game

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yea i was gonna wait but uh

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yea i was gonna wait but uh

No no, please go on, hopefully you've got time and motive now?

I got ninja'd. this was about us not having any new neighbours.

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I have been more level-headed as of late and should have more time I can allot to this tho

can't say i've done as much reading as I would like but that'll come. for now I am here

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my two immediate thoughts about maid were that 1) they were targeted consecutive nights by scum who thinks they've been primed, although this seems overpowered, or 2) they changed prime targets and had to give up another day phase in order to do so

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here hi

i dont think i am paranoid of you notty but atm it is hinging somewhat on what happens with maid cafe

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i can confirm that april intended to target morph, and that the high risk play was specifically acknowledged

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i was stressed about dying but didn't feel confident enough in my level of caughtupedness to discuss anything really in the pt. thought about crumbing the morph target without asking april first but i never got around to that.

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i can confirm that april intended to target morph, and that the high risk play was specifically acknowledged

So you got blocked April?

Yeah, I did. I specifically got a message from mod saying my action was unsuccessful (If someone thinks it’s weird I got a message, I agree, but it happened. It’s actually not that bad because I didn’t get anyone in my neighborhood, and i didn’t die, so I would assume as much happened.

There’s also the possibility of me targeting Ascetic, and then me getting Night Killed.

And then you said you targeted Zmuffin.

it has to be april / bulge to you then, right?

april could be lying to me if ive worked this out correctly

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What do you think of April’s antics

What do you think of the bears read flip re me and the “maid is cleared by plus interactions” thing

need to parse them. it stressed me out a lil but mostly because i felt i was very very much in the dust and in no position to either protest or actively participate

it's a weird clear to assume but it's so overt ijdk

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lemme get off my phone and at least get through the pt for now until im more main-thread savvy

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I'm also feeling confident enough in my mental state and my sleep schedule to say that i'll have at least most of the thread read by tomorrow morning

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I’m thinking fade Midway, target Remelia.

I kinda dig this


not fully caught up but after I'm gonna do some isos. the more i read the better i feel and i wanna actually be here discussing this game is fun

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are you asking me?

I have been the most suspicious of rem out of the unconfirmed living players but I don't have a solid sr. I also think (and I'm sure you will agree, albeit for different reasons) that april's role has more utility to us once he turns up as the second body any given morning.

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nobody has checked into the PT yet except for me just now. the PT was created the night before d2 started, I was added at the same time the thread opened.

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I don't know if rem or april have access, to be clear

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sorry, why isn't it just remi here?

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I know I'm in no place to be calling shots at all but I mean uh

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if someone could walk me throught that i would much appreciate. If i'm not completely wrong it could technically be ST just as well but don't we also have a butt load of miselims we can burn?

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can someone link bork's claim? I remember thinking it looked pretty janky

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hi

nada

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But borks claim is the only claim that adds merit to the day power the alien has so meh

do you mean this like it would make sense for both roles to be in the setup, or like that bork would know to claim something that sounds complimentary to the scum alienthing?

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I've had my doubts about morph all game but it would be a big stretch to suspect them with what i know at this point. I dont suspect bell or muffin, not sure where I'd place morph in relation to those two. something like

{april, maid}
{bell, muffin}/{morph}
{tunnel}
{remi}

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I’m also surprised how low I am on your list bulge but I’m assuming it’s a byproduct of the situation re claims than anything else

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Mhm

exactly. if I were ignoring claims you would be in a tier between zSnoopyDog and morph.

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just kinda wish more people would actually play the game here i feel like this is basically a bunch of



with confirmed town sitting on the periphery

and if that was to gather data that's one thing

but i kinda feel like it's apathy that could potentially lead to a loss

april isnt here
maid missed 2 days in a row
I have posted as much in the last hour as I have the last week

so whose apathy is confounding you?

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eh, it's a lot of irl stuff plus being conftown just fucked with how i was wanting to approach the game and april's posts made it hard to keep up with the thread. bummed ill never get my morphpost as well lol. I appreciate the concern. I am good tho my head's been on straighter the last couple days. ive been as useless as conftown gets so im hoping now to chime in where i feel opinionated enough. normally i cannot get footing in a game without having at least 2 good solid reads of the thread under my belt, which is uh not something im planning on doing anymore this game unfortunately. but im here when im here and hoping next time i play such an active game ill be in a better mindset to stay caught up all along.

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I mean candidly Bork if you flip green I auto die tomorrow then flip green and we can sit in the dead PT thanking our lucky stars we aren’t in cylo lol

this post gives me a n x i e t y

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You can vote me first idc

not about your slot lol about myself being in that situation

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i am entirely aware

HYDRA PT SPY???

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I said no more reading but I've been looking at scum isos and noticed how little plusjoyed interacted with midwaybear early on, only addressing him to answer specifically directed questions or to establish that he had an opposite read here and there. there are a handful of pj/midway/remi moments in thread that don't really make sense as a team. plusj interacted with muffin even less than with midway, and his brief stint SRing muffin looks forced. I'm leaning more in that direction rn

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I've been putting off sorting muffin pretty much all game I realize. I read the posts I just don't think I've had a decent opinion on the slot at any point.

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plusj interacted with muffin even less than with midway, and his brief stint SRing muffin looks forced

there are several instances of plusjoyed fervently agreeing with zmuffin's suicide bomber theories, disproportionate to their level of interaction beforehand. like they're pushing the same agenda

sorry for no links im on mobile and mostly remembering shit i read this afternoon

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I think the best course of action if we are wrong is let Bork get to cylo and he calls who hammers him? Like basically he votes himself and whoever he picks has to vote him or dies?

the scum has to hammer bit is part of what makes me wary of shenanigans but i cant pin down what role he could actually have to want to bait us that specifically, especially knowing theres most likely some sort of mafia silencer still out there

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ugh if I'm up late tonight ill read zmuffin's iso but im feeling like digging deeper into the double 2020scum iso is gonna be more fruitful

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I think I like notty's version of the muffin plan

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are we doing muffin today?

also another obligatory sorry for not participating but atm I feel like my voice will only distract

I'm cool with a short night, and I do still plan on reading more of our redflips' isos

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late EBWOP I don't like how "obligatory sorry" makes it sound like I'm not genuinely mortified at my own lack of engagement but yea.

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how do we know the ability to disappear someone will still be available to scum in limlo?

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am I wrong to say this plan assumes a 3p Day 6

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I'm ok with this

waiting or nah?

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I'll hammer in 30 yea?

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does it make more sense to TR the higher effort last-ditch mortality gambit or the lower effort one hmmmm

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VOTE: Muffin

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Time to fire up the northsidegal script I guess.

oh good you think itll be me tonight too

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I assumed you were preparing for april to return to the thread lol unless you're talking about the red/green script

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i was thinking of the ignore user script carry on

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I don't really have any comments on other people's play here. Bulge had an extremely strong start, and was for me the one bright point of the game even though I didn't show that. It was unfortunate to see that the pacing kind of left him behind.

thanks for this. I was extremely excited for this game and even moreso when I felt like I was hitting a good groove for the first little while. high volume games are not super familiar to me (I've barely played any Larges) which didnt have to be an issue, I was reading a tonne and staying caught up, but mental health and irl problems/business ultimately made it impossible for me to keep it up any longer, and then I found myself past the point of no return. I mentioned to April right before I died that I would never have replaced out here because of what that might do to the gamestate.

anyway gg all! it was a pleasure playing with everyone. this was one for the books. thank you nacho and tammy!!!!