MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[CaptainS]

Hello. New to to this site but not to mafia games.

[CaptainS]

If I had to guess right now.

mahimahi+ - WW
Flea - town
Raya36 - scum
TemporalLich - town
Guillotina - cultist
Korina - town
Almost50 - town
KidAmn - town
Nono - SK
samantha97 - town
CaptainS - scum
Vaxkiller - scum

Well your guess would be wrong on me for a start

[CaptainS]

VOTE: CaptainS

I'm shocked!

[CaptainS]

I'm away for less than a day and 10 pages jees Louise.

First impressios is that you all talk ALOT.

Personally I don't believe a lot of the claims and it's Day 1 and soft claims/ roleclaiming Day 1 is honestly not be believed especially in a bastard set up.

I do have a few people that I'm leaning town with the way that they act and the way they are coming across to me but after all it is my first game with all of you and likewise with me. Becausr i could claim Jesus for all you know but I ain't got anything to back it up.

But for now VOTE: Korina Choo Choo

[CaptainS]

CaptainS with a huge bombshell of a post on the game state.

I like making grand entrances but prefer to read through properly before giving a proper read of the game from my perspective. ( although i'm not a big thinker and have a small brain )

[CaptainS]

@Capn

Id say we are at a medium level of activity for this type of game on this site. Some of us def talk more than others.

As for claims, eh, not totally unusual for this type of game. Id say the act of claiming isnt really AI, but more in how its presented.

Vaxkiller is currently searching for Jesus in thread.

Thanks for giving us a little more insight and thoughts. Welcome to the site, BTW!

Glad to be here!

[CaptainS]

I need to what to now?

I'm just easing my way into a brand new site and a bastard game. Ya'll talk alot you see.

[CaptainS]

Sigh, give me a sec and i'll go though and point out posts and do a proper run through.

[CaptainS]

@KidAmn: You can claim the miller part without claiming the NK-immune or vig part. Think about it:

1) If you're NK-immune, why tell all scum that you can only die if they strongman you? It means no one will waste shots on them and they'll know to use a strongman on them

2) If they're a vig, they're asking to be roleblocked

They're probably some kind of OP bulletproof cult leader

-mahi

1) A full roleclaim can earn points for honesty, assuming Korina is being truthful, and prevents us wasting vig shot/s on them

2) Following on from this, if they are as you posit "some kind of op bulletproof cult leader", what incentive do they have to claim a role that invites the attention of roleblocks, preventing them from recruiting? Unless you're suggesting they have some way of getting around that, I really don't understand where your logic is coming from here.

I think everyone trying to push for my d1 elim is scum, and I’m going to shoot you.

Fear mongering

Korina is literally flipped scum

-mahi

It's day one. Granted nobody has anything just by what they have posted and their posting style but the aren't flipped scum confirmed. Just a chance of scum.

We arent waiting for night. Korina fades today.

Agree with the point but why the certainty and can you do it earlier?

on one hand korina had a higher chance than some people to be non-town, due to picking non-town as their 3rd, so as an indifferent baseline it's better than random

on the other hand, non-town have a vested interest in getting rid of someone who can't be nightkilled, and posts exist so it's never random anyway

This is a decent post to me. Speaks the truth and the fact is we don't know for sure. Very towny post

Raya is town and in my cult, leave them alone. I recruited them n0. Also, VFP, if I recruit you tonight, will I die? Yes or no?

No, I would never hurt my cult leader!

I want whatever they are on because it must be a very nice thing lol

Korina is literally flipped scum lol

-mahi

Have we had an end of day I wasn't aware off? Hmm.
Their is a chance they are scum, a chance you are and I am. I am leaning that way also but they haven't flipped it yet.

Bah

You wanna keep obvscum around, go ahead. Since you are this insane im gonna do something equally insane. I will sheep the first person that asks me to sheep him/her. Every vote from this point forward til the end of the day that he/she casts, I will cast.

Go!

Umm.

Please dont sheep me?

Samanthas post stood out for me from what i quoted but what i don't understand and put this down to whether it's a bastard game or not.

Is this normal for day 1 around here? Asking for a friend.

[CaptainS]

[/quote][/spoiler]
That said, I'm struggling to see that you're doing much of anything in terms of scumhunting here. I appreciate "feeling your way into a game" but we're 20+ pages in now.
PEdit - I don't exactly disagree with VFP, but I don't feel it anywhere near as strong as "probably town" ngl.[/quote]

You're right I'm not doing alot of scumhunting.

I'm brand new new to the site. Getting used to the layout. Getting use to the bastardasized game mode. Getting used to the the players i know diddly squat about and i don't know how they play on this site and in general. I have absolutely zero to go on except what the people post.

I was asked my thoughts so far and have given some of them. Will i give them all before we can even elim on day 1. Heck no. So I'm keeping track and ya'll learn more about my playstyle as the game grows. But i'll give you my alignment for free.
It's town

Now all don't feint at once.

[CaptainS]

Messed up the bloody quote fml

[CaptainS]

What an absolutely fantastic idea.

Do we claim all picks?
Or just the ones we were given?
Are we linking to the post?
Or should we just tell scum where to shoot? Because in that case they should just shoot me and have done.


no more crumbs, so how about just go whole loaf?

I think we do it on a system.
If you have left your country in the last 5 years, you reveal your role
If you have eaten an apple in the last week you reveal 1 role you didn't get
If you have been a mis lim ever you reveal another role you didn't get.

Also deciding where scum shoot might not be a bad idea.
Do we send all to 1 though or multiple targets?

Again, i want what this guys having because my brain would have a nice life

[CaptainS]

@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.

Guillotina, Samantha, Nono.

Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?

So you're Mafia and forget that there's probably 3rd party's.
Thanks for confirming this.

Also, Mahi town.

I caught that from Guillo earlier in another post too. Wouldn't scum be more aware of potential third parties or another team though?

Yes and no - the last UPick I was in, I was a Werewolf Mason who knew my masonry partners weren't part of a Mafia faction, but there were Mafia, Werewolves, a cult, Slivers, a Serial Killer and a Jester, all in a 15 player game. These games are very much "throw everything in a blender, make token effort to ensure it's a completable game if you want, press play". By and large, I advise to assume the worst, do the best you can D1, and hope whatever happens Night 1 makes sense.

This seems like a good way to view things imo.

[CaptainS]

well you're (guillotina) trying to get yourself mechtown in a convoluted attempt to win the game for scum.

I'm saying I'm not deterred by your pathetic attempts to use Grand Idea shenanigans to deflect your incoming hammer.

I will accept a claim from you, and you specifically.

@pedit: let the dark forces imbue you

@ppedit: you're still voting no lime

Now you are getting offensive. Im here to play to have fun, specially in the amidst of my mom getting surgery. If you cannot not be toxic while playing, I WILL BLACKLIST YOU.

Call me pathetic one more time.

VOTE: Guillotina

We are here to have fun and relax. If you need to step away because irl is happening then step away.

But for now your actions are giving me red flags in terms of your display.

Post edited so that the automated vote counters properly pick up on the vote.
~Ircher

[CaptainS]

Scum team if VFP is actually town.

RAYA
mahimahi
temporal
KidAmn

How are you actually getting these. Reads? Feelings? Magic 8 ball?

There's no way you can know this lol

[CaptainS]

Wait i've been hammered?

Spoiler:

And the best acting in 2021 goes to...
Guillotina

I actually spit my drink out lol

[CaptainS]

I believe Korina.
Scum going to try and discredit here.

I don't want to go into detail but I chose a really powerful role that is confirmable to the entire town by tomorrow at the latest.

Why does he believe Korina?
Notice how VFP is predisposing the thread in a way that if anyone disagrees with them on their "read" on Korina, they'll be considered scum. So any attempt at casing Korina will be taken as anti-town and of course any voice against Korina's case would be pushed as such, regardless of intent or alignment.

This feels like VFP could possibly be scum with TMI on Korina.

If I had to guess right now.

mahimahi+ - WW
Flea - town
Raya36 - scum
TemporalLich - town
Guillotina - cultist
Korina - town
Almost50 - town
KidAmn - town
Nono - SK
samantha97 - town
CaptainS - scum
Vaxkiller - scum

How does he come up with a read on me as a Cultist if there is no guarantee or signs that there is such a role?
How possible is it that there is a cult leader role in a 13 players set up? Why would town worried about a slim chance that there is a cult leader when there is scum to catch?

VFP is also yet to explore all of those town reads. There is no way an uninformed town has so many town reads so early in the game.

my gut says that flea is hard null as 136 feels NAI

I'm not sure what would prompt Flea to lie there. But I think it was a

good town response

so far.

Possible TMI on Flea. Does he know Flea is town?

You sound more worried to if Korina is telling the truth there.

What Vaxkiller would be worried about exactly?

Well your guess would be wrong on me for a start

Okay I believe you.
Locktown

What? Locktown, just like that. Why? Why do you believe CaptainS? Someone whose first game here in THIS ONE!

[Unv]Korina[/unv]

100% town.

Why?

Tracker / watcher, those kind of investigations.
Make your picks purely around me.

Even if we have 5 doctors, all on me.

I offered this to town as well. Temporal sus me for it, yet you were not.

Fuck cultists, I hate playing as converter and much more being converted. If you plan to convert me, don't, I will out you with extremely bad cultist play.

This just scream cultis to me.

Why? At this point is when i noticed a prejudice attitude towards me. He had decided I was cultist on a read list before and here is how he starts pushing that narrative.

Guillotina actually roled anti town.
I'm impressed.

You shouldn't feel impressed about yourself because you are wrong.

Yeah, I'm basically confirmed tonight or I'm gone tomorrow.

Are you trying to bait visits upon you?

Do you townread Korina?

Yes, and so should you.
In Korina we believe! My vote sticks with Korina, not against.

Nice manipulation of my point

. And yes,

generally speaking

if you think someone is scum you try to elim them.

Thank you!
So we are agreed that there is

much of a reason to lim Korina as there is to lim you

.
That makes you look suspicious even more so.

If there is much of a reason to lim Korina as there is to lim Vaxkiller, why is Vaxkiller suspicious but Korina is not under that logic?
Because VFP is pocketing Korina!

Stop white knighting her and stop misrepresenting my reasons to scum read people, that's svummy. I scum read Korina because she is playing the exact same way i watched her play in our last game where she was scum.

So with meta only.
Your argument here is meta only.

Why are you voting who pushed the scum narrative anyway?
Did you forget who you were voting?

Unless i misunderstood, here he implies that we are not entitled to scum read a player who scum reads another player that we also scum read. As if wolves don't distance or buss others.

VFP, are you for real right now or just trolling me. Like im not sure if I should even respond to you, because it looks like you just fuckin with me trying to rile me up.

I'm 100% serious.

Your scum equity is going up with every post.

Are you telling me that scum would not push each other to distance themselves on Day 1?
Are you telling me that you didnt consider that Mahi and Korina could be scum read for independent reasons?
Ate you not aware thst there may or may not be different types of scum in this game?

Mahi is town and not scum.

I think you actually forgot who you were voting for though as you're scum.

You are dead set on Korina as scum and its suggested highly likely as cult leader if they are.

Why would you not be voting here if you didn't believe it?

Your push is fake. Your reasons are bad.

YOU ARE DEAD SET ON KORINA THAT SHE IS TOWN. HOW?!

I explained my reasons of why I think Korina could be wolf but you town read her and never gave any solid reasons. Also a reply to the sized up comment in VFP's quote:

I only have one vote and I scum read more than one person.

Oh look upon removing your wool i have discovered you bot pelt underneath.

How do you know Mahi is town?

How can you prove that i forgot i was voting for Mahi? If you cant prove it, it's a shade.

You accuse me of wolf reading Korina on just based meta, yet again you are town reading him based on meta, if my read on korina is invalid because of meta, how is yours not equally invalid then?

I dont know if my reasons are bad, im uninformed, but i do believe in them so dont dare to say that they are fake.

Because Mahi isn't in the Mafia team.

There's no other role they could have taken other than town.

I cant meta read Korina because I have never played with them.

My reason is for scum pushing for an easy lim using Meta

. I don't need to explain the difference, because you don't believe the scum push anyway.

But your argument here is if it can't be proven that you're lying even though it's obvious, it's not true?
Well my counter to that is I proved that you forgot who you were voting for, prove that I didn't or you claim scum.

Your reasons are uniformed that meta beats game? Well I'm telling you now, it's fake. And I'll uniform that all game.

1) How do you know Mahi isn't in a mafia team?

2) If you don't have meta on Korina, why do you assume he is an easy lim?

3) My argument is that you can't possibly know that i forgot unless you are a GODDAMN psychic!

1) How do you know Mahi isn't in a mafia team?
Not in the PT with me

2) If you don't have meta on Korina, why do you assume he is an easy lim?
Because the reasons giving is an easy lim with no throw back? Are you trying to say I have meta on Korina?

3) My argument is that you can't possibly know that i forgot unless you are a GODDAMN psychic!
Prove that I can't possible know that.

This guy is obvious scum, i actually feel bad for your team because you surely cannot blend in. Honestly all i have to do know is how people interact with you to find the other scum. I think Korina might not be scum for the way you white knighted her.

Why did upsized the sentences of the quote. I will tell you now.

I'm so glad that my team are killing you tonight, because you will know in 143

I mark out who is on my team pretty well.

Also, I believe that post as much as you believe your fake push on Mahi, Korina, and me today.

You saying you scum read Raya, CaptainS and Vaxkiller? is this what you meant?

Right now samantha commands me.

Scum leading the scum I guess.

If so, then what's the angle? That they plus Me, Flea and Samantha are scum to? For a total of 6 scum players in a 13 player set up?
How is this possible?

I had an 80% chance of getting town sry

I guess you got the 20% then?
Side note, Captain is probably town, just wrong town.

this is the first game where I have actually wanted to vote no lynch

This is actually one of the first posts I like from you.
But no,

we need a lim

here.

We need a lim? No, we need to lim scum, the way you are saying it here is that any lim is good and that mentality comes from anti-town parties.

Dude you need to learn to relax and not to shout lol

[CaptainS]

Also I feel Captain may be factional scum actually.

Wrong

[CaptainS]

VOTE: Korina

My second favourite for the chop is
Guillotina just purely down to Day 1 actions.

Still an uneventful night in the Captain household.

[CaptainS]

VOTE: end day

please maestro

[CaptainS]

If Vax flips Town then VFP is lying (about having tracked Vax to CaptainS) and we would have caught another anti-Town in VFP.

Wouldn't it make more sense to flip VFP. Less risk in losing a town tracker vs losing a town rolecop. Plus there's a good chance VFP is who Korina curled and that's why he defended Korina. I mean, why does a tracker even target Vax who was supposedly getting vigged by Korina. Doesn't make any sense.

One thing I've begin to learn that peoples actions and words rarely make sense.

But also could have done it simply because they didn't believe Korina would target Vax.

[CaptainS]

I got a result on someone. It's like a completely useless role. Like why would you choose that?

Due to the VFP flip, there is likely no bus driver so i feel confident in my info.

Their is so many people with unconfirmed roles so this role is a load of bull.

Ok while Vax tell us his result I'd like to push this. I was looking at his ISO last night and it looks bad, no effort to solve at all.

VOTE: CaptainS

I have two questions to ask.
Why?
Your fellow cultists tell you to or just scum?

Asking for a friend

[CaptainS]

I got a result on someone. It's like a completely useless role. Like why would you choose that?

Due to the VFP flip, there is likely no bus driver so i feel confident in my info.

Their is so many people with unconfirmed roles so this role is a load of bull.

Ok while Vax tell us his result I'd like to push this. I was looking at his ISO last night and it looks bad, no effort to solve at all.

VOTE: CaptainS

I have two questions to ask.
Why?

Your fellow cultists tell you to or just scum?

Asking for a friend

First bolded section makes no sense. How is Vax's role "a load of bull"?

Second bolded section, likewise, also indicates lack of reading game thread - unless I've misinterp'd, there can't be any cult left, so this is just flailing and a massive over-reaction to one vote from someone I wouldn't exactly say is super-town looking themselves.

Captain S should claim.

Presumably this is your result: strange that of all the people in the game you picked someone with near-zero interactions instead of building a confirmable bloc of players who've actually done some good scum/culthunting.

My terminology was not the best i agree with the first section.

Basically i was meaning they have no idea if their/ s not a bus driver. Still too early to tell and the 2 nights they could investigate ( if they have that ability ) could not 100% determine the possibility of a bus driver especially in this game mode.

Yeh i react emotionally when somebody with the day 1 behaviour like they had says they looked at my posts in iso and think i'm the best vote of the town. He couldn't make his mind up and massively overacted to any questioning of him and basically acted like a paranoid scum so on that premise.

VOTE: Vote Guillotine.

I should claim, perhaps but im not a particulary useful role and i asked as such as this was my first game on this site.

I'm town. Have no night abilities and if you want to waste a day feel free to vote me up. It's upto you guys/gals/whatever/scum/loonies/fellow mafiasite players.

[CaptainS]

The CaptainS Case

Spoiler:

I got a result on someone. It's like a completely useless role. Like why would you choose that?

Due to the VFP flip, there is likely no bus driver so i feel confident in my info.

Their is so many people with unconfirmed roles so this role is a load of bull.

Ok while Vax tell us his result I'd like to push this. I was looking at his ISO last night and it looks bad, no effort to solve at all.

VOTE: CaptainS

I have two questions to ask.
Why?
Your fellow cultists tell you to or just scum?

Asking for a friend

I'm so glad you asked!

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Spoiler:

I got a result on someone. It's like a completely useless role. Like why would you choose that?

Due to the VFP flip, there is likely no bus driver so i feel confident in my info.

Their is so many people with unconfirmed roles so this role is a load of bull.

Ok while Vax tell us his result I'd like to push this. I was looking at his ISO last night and it looks bad, no effort to solve at all.

VOTE: CaptainS

I have two questions to ask.
Why?

Your fellow cultists tell you to or just scum?

Asking for a friend

First bolded section makes no sense. How is Vax's role "a load of bull"?

Second bolded section, likewise, also indicates lack of reading game thread - unless I've misinterp'd, there can't be any cult left, so this is just flailing and a massive over-reaction to one vote from someone I wouldn't exactly say is super-town looking themselves.

Captain S should claim.

Presumably this is your result: strange that of all the people in the game you picked someone with near-zero interactions instead of building a confirmable bloc of players who've actually done some good scum/culthunting.

My terminology was not the best i agree with the first section.

Basically i was meaning they have no idea if their/ s not a bus driver. Still too early to tell and the 2 nights they could investigate ( if they have that ability ) could not 100% determine the possibility of a bus driver especially in this game mode.

Yeh i react emotionally when somebody with the day 1 behaviour like they had says they looked at my posts in iso and think i'm the best vote of the town. He couldn't make his mind up and massively overacted to any questioning of him and basically acted like a paranoid scum so on that premise.

VOTE: Vote Guillotine.

I should claim, perhaps but im not a particulary useful role and i asked as such as this was my first game on this site.

I'm town. Have no night abilities and if you want to waste a day feel free to vote me up. It's upto you guys/gals/whatever/scum/loonies/fellow mafiasite players.

As KidAmn stated, Korina only had time to convert one person and that person flipped cultist last night. You are not reading the thread like you keep saying in half of the posts in your ISO. Your overreaction to a simple push vote and your reason for voting me back discrediting my day 1 play when I actually was the first to have scum read both Mahi and Korina and put up a case of why Raya and Temporal could both be town, qualifies you as outed scum.

This is how I proof I am town, by casing my suspects. Let's begin!

Hello. New to to this site but not to mafia games.

Let it be known that he stated he is not new to mafia, so he has no excuse for noob mafia play, so all noob mafia play should be considered intentional evasion/flailing.

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Read Inside The Spoiler Please

Spoiler:

I'm away for less than a day and 10 pages jees Louise.

First impressios is that you all talk ALOT.

Personally I don't believe a lot of the claims and it's Day 1 and soft claims/ roleclaiming Day 1 is honestly not be believed especially in a bastard set up.

I do have a few people that I'm leaning town

with the way that they act

and the way they are coming across to me but after all it is my first game with all of you and likewise with me. Becausr i could claim Jesus for all you know but I ain't got anything to back it up.

But for now VOTE: Korina Choo Choo

Says he is leaning a few people town by the way they act and come across to them but does not say who. Scum do this to not have to explain more in detail those thoughts, which makes me think those leans are fabricated to post something to appear solving without actuallu helping to solve anything.

I need to what to now?

I'm just easing my way into a brand new site and a bastard game. Ya'll talk alot you see.

We townies love people that talk because the more people talk the more information we get, the more behavior we can analyze, the more slip ups we can catch. This guy complaining that we talk a lot is not happy we are getting all this info out.

Sigh, give me a sec and i'll go though and point out posts and do a proper run through.

@KidAmn: You can claim the miller part without claiming the NK-immune or vig part. Think about it:

1) If you're NK-immune, why tell all scum that you can only die if they strongman you? It means no one will waste shots on them and they'll know to use a strongman on them

2) If they're a vig, they're asking to be roleblocked

They're probably some kind of OP bulletproof cult leader

-mahi

1) A full roleclaim can earn points for honesty, assuming Korina is being truthful, and prevents us wasting vig shot/s on them

2) Following on from this, if they are as you posit "some kind of op bulletproof cult leader", what incentive do they have to claim a role that invites the attention of roleblocks, preventing them from recruiting? Unless you're suggesting they have some way of getting around that, I really don't understand where your logic is coming from here.

I think everyone trying to push for my d1 elim is scum, and I’m going to shoot you.

Fear mongering

Korina is literally flipped scum

-mahi

It's day one. Granted nobody has anything just by what they have posted and their posting style but the aren't flipped scum confirmed. Just a chance of scum.

We arent waiting for night. Korina fades today.

Agree with the point but why the certainty and can you do it earlier?

on one hand korina had a higher chance than some people to be non-town, due to picking non-town as their 3rd, so as an indifferent baseline it's better than random

on the other hand, non-town have a vested interest in getting rid of someone who can't be nightkilled, and posts exist so it's never random anyway

This is a decent post to me. Speaks the truth and the fact is we don't know for sure. Very towny post

Raya is town and in my cult, leave them alone. I recruited them n0. Also, VFP, if I recruit you tonight, will I die? Yes or no?

No, I would never hurt my cult leader!

I want whatever they are on because it must be a very nice thing lol

Korina is literally flipped scum lol

-mahi

Have we had an end of day I wasn't aware off? Hmm.
Their is a chance they are scum, a chance you are and I am. I am leaning that way also but they haven't flipped it yet.

Bah

You wanna keep obvscum around, go ahead. Since you are this insane im gonna do something equally insane. I will sheep the first person that asks me to sheep him/her. Every vote from this point forward til the end of the day that he/she casts, I will cast. Go!

Umm.

Please dont sheep me?

Samanthas post stood out for me from what i quoted but what i don't understand and put this down to whether it's a bastard game or not.

Is this normal for day 1 around here? Asking for a friend.

He reads all of that and that was what he had to offer to contribute for solving. CaptainS already stated that he is a noob in MafiaScum not to the mafia game, so this kind of info that he is asking in game he could be asking it in the mafia discussion forum, or he could actually ask it in the games on top of contributing to the game. These kind of posts are scum indicative because they wanna look like they are reading, that they are here but without helping us catch scum.

You're right I'm not doing alot of scumhunting.

I'm brand new new to the site. Getting used to the layout. Getting use to the bastardasized game mode. Getting used to the the players i know diddly squat about and i don't know how they play on this site and in general. I have absolutely zero to go on except what the people post.

I was asked my thoughts so far and have given some of them. Will i give them all before we can even elim on day 1. Heck no. So I'm keeping track and ya'll learn more about my playstyle as the game grows. But i'll give you my alignment for free.
It's town

Now all don't feint at once.

You are not new to mafia! Being new to the forums does not prevent you from simply reading the thread and post your thoughts. This feels like an excuse to not contribute, you probably randed scum in your first game and you are overwhelmed by the pressure.

What an absolutely fantastic idea.

Do we claim all picks?
Or just the ones we were given?
Are we linking to the post?
Or should we just tell scum where to shoot? Because in that case they should just shoot me and have done.


no more crumbs, so how about just go whole loaf?

I think we do it on a system.
If you have left your country in the last 5 years, you reveal your role
If you have eaten an apple in the last week you reveal 1 role you didn't get
If you have been a mis lim ever you reveal another role you didn't get.

Also deciding where scum shoot might not be a bad idea.
Do we send all to 1 though or multiple targets?

Again, i want what this guys having because my brain would have a nice life

So CaptainS is clearly lurking in the game, reading what is posted by us but instead of helping us solve the game, he makes comments like this. Again, to look like he is the game but without contributing.

Why is not anyone else pushing this behavior!?

@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.

Guillotina, Samantha, Nono.

Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?

So you're Mafia and forget that there's probably 3rd party's.
Thanks for confirming this.

Also, Mahi town.

I caught that from Guillo earlier in another post too. Wouldn't scum be more aware of potential third parties or another team though?

Yes and no - the last UPick I was in, I was a Werewolf Mason who knew my masonry partners weren't part of a Mafia faction, but there were Mafia, Werewolves, a cult, Slivers, a Serial Killer and a Jester, all in a 15 player game. These games are very much "throw everything in a blender, make token effort to ensure it's a completable game if you want, press play". By and large, I advise to assume the worst, do the best you can D1, and hope whatever happens Night 1 makes sense.

This seems like a good way to view things imo.

Yaaah? How about you tell us why in your own words?

How about you gives us reads? How about you make questions about what catches your suspicion?

Must be because you can't! You are scum randing your first game here and you feel intimidated! and you should be! I'm sorry you randed scum here as your first game! That is tough.

well you're (guillotina) trying to get yourself mechtown in a convoluted attempt to win the game for scum.

I'm saying I'm not deterred by your pathetic attempts to use Grand Idea shenanigans to deflect your incoming hammer.

I will accept a claim from you, and you specifically.

@pedit: let the dark forces imbue you

@ppedit: you're still voting no lime

Now you are getting offensive. Im here to play to have fun, specially in the amidst of my mom getting surgery. If you cannot not be toxic while playing, I WILL BLACKLIST YOU.

Call me pathetic one more time.

VOTE: Guillotina

We are here to have fun and relax. If you need to step away because irl is happening then step away.

But for now your actions are giving me red flags in terms of your display.

Post edited so that the automated vote counters properly pick up on the vote.
~Ircher

Out of all the votes against me on day 1, this one looked to me the scummiest!

CaptainS mentioned that my actions were giving him read flags which was something that everyone else was feeling and they elaborated on that, but not Captain! Ne never said what those red flags were, never explained those thoughts. He just jumped on my wagon like the sneaky, pelty wolf he is.

Scum team if VFP is actually town.

RAYA
mahimahi
temporal
KidAmn

How are you actually getting these. Reads? Feelings? Magic 8 ball?

There's no way you can know this lol

Fair! I didn't explain my thoughts. But this is a TMI post from you. Here you said that there is no way I could know this because you know I am town.
Here you implied knowing that there was no way I could know if they were scum which is TMI for knowing that I'm town, but also you slipped up cause you also implied that you knew who of them were or weren't.

Wait i've been hammered?

And the best acting in 2021 goes to...
Guillotina

I actually spit my drink out lol

Fluff commentary! Thank you so much for your contributions! You ISO is looking great so far! (Sarcasm intensifies).

I'm gonna try to Spoiler the next long ass quote.

Spoiler:

I believe Korina.
Scum going to try and discredit here.

I don't want to go into detail but I chose a really powerful role that is confirmable to the entire town by tomorrow at the latest.

Why does he believe Korina?
Notice how VFP is predisposing the thread in a way that if anyone disagrees with them on their "read" on Korina, they'll be considered scum. So any attempt at casing Korina will be taken as anti-town and of course any voice against Korina's case would be pushed as such, regardless of intent or alignment.

This feels like VFP could possibly be scum with TMI on Korina.

If I had to guess right now.

mahimahi+ - WW
Flea - town
Raya36 - scum
TemporalLich - town
Guillotina - cultist
Korina - town
Almost50 - town
KidAmn - town
Nono - SK
samantha97 - town
CaptainS - scum
Vaxkiller - scum

How does he come up with a read on me as a Cultist if there is no guarantee or signs that there is such a role?
How possible is it that there is a cult leader role in a 13 players set up? Why would town worried about a slim chance that there is a cult leader when there is scum to catch?

VFP is also yet to explore all of those town reads. There is no way an uninformed town has so many town reads so early in the game.

my gut says that flea is hard null as 136 feels NAI

I'm not sure what would prompt Flea to lie there. But I think it was a

good town response

so far.

Possible TMI on Flea. Does he know Flea is town?

You sound more worried to if Korina is telling the truth there.

What Vaxkiller would be worried about exactly?

Well your guess would be wrong on me for a start

Okay I believe you.
Locktown

What? Locktown, just like that. Why? Why do you believe CaptainS? Someone whose first game here in THIS ONE!

[Unv]Korina[/unv]

100% town.

Why?

Tracker / watcher, those kind of investigations.
Make your picks purely around me.

Even if we have 5 doctors, all on me.

I offered this to town as well. Temporal sus me for it, yet you were not.

Fuck cultists, I hate playing as converter and much more being converted. If you plan to convert me, don't, I will out you with extremely bad cultist play.

This just scream cultis to me.

Why? At this point is when i noticed a prejudice attitude towards me. He had decided I was cultist on a read list before and here is how he starts pushing that narrative.

Guillotina actually roled anti town.
I'm impressed.

You shouldn't feel impressed about yourself because you are wrong.

Yeah, I'm basically confirmed tonight or I'm gone tomorrow.

Are you trying to bait visits upon you?

Do you townread Korina?

Yes, and so should you.
In Korina we believe! My vote sticks with Korina, not against.

Nice manipulation of my point

. And yes,

generally speaking

if you think someone is scum you try to elim them.

Thank you!
So we are agreed that there is

much of a reason to lim Korina as there is to lim you

.
That makes you look suspicious even more so.

If there is much of a reason to lim Korina as there is to lim Vaxkiller, why is Vaxkiller suspicious but Korina is not under that logic?
Because VFP is pocketing Korina!

Stop white knighting her and stop misrepresenting my reasons to scum read people, that's svummy. I scum read Korina because she is playing the exact same way i watched her play in our last game where she was scum.

So with meta only.
Your argument here is meta only.

Why are you voting who pushed the scum narrative anyway?
Did you forget who you were voting?

Unless i misunderstood, here he implies that we are not entitled to scum read a player who scum reads another player that we also scum read. As if wolves don't distance or buss others.

VFP, are you for real right now or just trolling me. Like im not sure if I should even respond to you, because it looks like you just fuckin with me trying to rile me up.

I'm 100% serious.

Your scum equity is going up with every post.

Are you telling me that scum would not push each other to distance themselves on Day 1?
Are you telling me that you didnt consider that Mahi and Korina could be scum read for independent reasons?
Ate you not aware thst there may or may not be different types of scum in this game?

Mahi is town and not scum.

I think you actually forgot who you were voting for though as you're scum.

You are dead set on Korina as scum and its suggested highly likely as cult leader if they are.

Why would you not be voting here if you didn't believe it?

Your push is fake. Your reasons are bad.

YOU ARE DEAD SET ON KORINA THAT SHE IS TOWN. HOW?!

I explained my reasons of why I think Korina could be wolf but you town read her and never gave any solid reasons. Also a reply to the sized up comment in VFP's quote:

I only have one vote and I scum read more than one person.

Oh look upon removing your wool i have discovered you bot pelt underneath.

How do you know Mahi is town?

How can you prove that i forgot i was voting for Mahi? If you cant prove it, it's a shade.

You accuse me of wolf reading Korina on just based meta, yet again you are town reading him based on meta, if my read on korina is invalid because of meta, how is yours not equally invalid then?

I dont know if my reasons are bad, im uninformed, but i do believe in them so dont dare to say that they are fake.

Because Mahi isn't in the Mafia team.

There's no other role they could have taken other than town.

I cant meta read Korina because I have never played with them.

My reason is for scum pushing for an easy lim using Meta

. I don't need to explain the difference, because you don't believe the scum push anyway.

But your argument here is if it can't be proven that you're lying even though it's obvious, it's not true?
Well my counter to that is I proved that you forgot who you were voting for, prove that I didn't or you claim scum.

Your reasons are uniformed that meta beats game? Well I'm telling you now, it's fake. And I'll uniform that all game.

1) How do you know Mahi isn't in a mafia team?

2) If you don't have meta on Korina, why do you assume he is an easy lim?

3) My argument is that you can't possibly know that i forgot unless you are a GODDAMN psychic!

1) How do you know Mahi isn't in a mafia team?
Not in the PT with me

2) If you don't have meta on Korina, why do you assume he is an easy lim?
Because the reasons giving is an easy lim with no throw back? Are you trying to say I have meta on Korina?

3) My argument is that you can't possibly know that i forgot unless you are a GODDAMN psychic!
Prove that I can't possible know that.

This guy is obvious scum, i actually feel bad for your team because you surely cannot blend in. Honestly all i have to do know is how people interact with you to find the other scum. I think Korina might not be scum for the way you white knighted her.

Why did upsized the sentences of the quote. I will tell you now.

I'm so glad that my team are killing you tonight, because you will know in 143

I mark out who is on my team pretty well.

Also, I believe that post as much as you believe your fake push on Mahi, Korina, and me today.

You saying you scum read Raya, CaptainS and Vaxkiller? is this what you meant?

Right now samantha commands me.

Scum leading the scum I guess.

If so, then what's the angle? That they plus Me, Flea and Samantha are scum to? For a total of 6 scum players in a 13 player set up?
How is this possible?

I had an 80% chance of getting town sry

I guess you got the 20% then?
Side note, Captain is probably town, just wrong town.

this is the first game where I have actually wanted to vote no lynch

This is actually one of the first posts I like from you.
But no,

we need a lim

here.

We need a lim? No, we need to lim scum, the way you are saying it here is that any lim is good and that mentality comes from anti-town parties.

Dude you need to learn to relax and not to shout lol

Out of all of that that you read and quoted, the only thing that you had to comment on is that I should chill? No insights? No comments? No nothing? REALLY?

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I gotta say that the spoilering system in this place leaves too much to be desired. There is no way you don't fuck up a spoiler within a spoiler here.

Let's continue

VOTE: Korina

My second favourite for the chop is
Guillotina just purely down to Day 1 actions.

Still an uneventful night in the Captain household.

What was so bad about my day 1 actions that you still can't let go. Please tell me. Cause everyone else that was pushing for my yeet except the outed cult leader and Mahi have town read me, because I've made efforts to solve. Everyone has a bad day right? Unlike you, that you are having a BAD GAME and no one is pushing you for it.
Looks like your wolf teammates are shielding you because you are not getting the heat that I got on Day 1, you are going through the days untouched. This is telling me that maybe your teammates are the ones "town leading", maybe.

If Vax flips Town then VFP is lying (about having tracked Vax to CaptainS) and we would have caught another anti-Town in VFP.

Wouldn't it make more sense to flip VFP. Less risk in losing a town tracker vs losing a town rolecop. Plus there's a good chance VFP is who Korina curled and that's why he defended Korina. I mean, why does a tracker even target Vax who was supposedly getting vigged by Korina. Doesn't make any sense.

One thing I've begin to learn that peoples actions and words rarely make sense.

But also could have done it simply because they didn't believe Korina would target Vax.

You know what is not making sense?

1) You not getting more heat for your scummy ways all game, but specially on Day 1.
2) You not contributing to game solving by day 3
3) You placing your vote on two different days on obvious town (me)



I'm just going to say this.
Vote me then, waste a day. You obviously have a read on me for something but how about i give you a little background on me.

I had a stroke 3 years ago. I type with 1 hand.
I dont have use with one hand. I get tired easy. So yes i dont post often and i just go with my reads and thoughts as that is my style of play.
I don't have the energy to be on the site all day and will visit it 3 or 4 times a day. And i am still getting used to the rules on posting and the quoting way it works.

I am town. I am quiet. If you want the newspaper article with me thanking the Air Ambulance saving my life i will dm to if you so do wish. So that you can see I'm not full of shit.

You're loud, rude and were way too defensive for Day 1. That is my take on you and I am sticking with it.

So if i post something and it's not got alot of info its to let people know i'm not lurking.

Yes. I'm not new to mafia but i'm new here. I know nobodys style of play and am going on my reads. So yes my vote is staying with you and my sole interest in getting voted.
You have other people saying i am town so why not listen to them.

Because if you don't you're going to waste a day that we can not afford to waste at this present time.

VOTE: CaptainS

Ye fuck I can't make it more obvious without claiming.

CaptainS is good.

Oh look a person saying I am town. Funny that.

Killer mode activated.....how old are you 12? Jog on fella

[CaptainS]

Well feck i messed up that quote. But the thoughts are their.

[CaptainS]

Hate to tell you Captain, I retracted that post because I fucked something up.

Oh look a person saying I am town. Funny that.

Killer mode activated.....how old are you 12? Jog on fella

So that is your best defense? A remark about my maturity because i use kickass TOAD mario gifs? Which is actually an attack on the player and not the play per se.

Yes and in those terms I apologise if it came off heavy handed. Funny thing is that my stroke effected my emotions and well I'm Scouse as well to boot and 2 bouts of therapy and I stepped over the line it seems.

So apologies Guillo that I overstepped.

Oh actually... fuck. never mind.

They also said this.

You remain on my PoE.

[CaptainS]

Look. I'm tired and if ya'll really want to vote me up then do so. But it's a mistake. I ain't going to beg and say that it will ruin the game if i'm gone but I am going to say this.

I'm town. You don't know my playstyle. I've given you my backstory and I know Zero people on this site.

Guillo was happy voting people up with the way they acted in previous games and they voted them up in earlier days. I don't have that luxury. I just have my reads.

Guillo has gone a fatal attraction for me it seems. For what it's worth I'll give my opinion on what I think people are at the moment.

1. mahimahi : Scum
2. Flea the Magician : Town
3. Raya36 : Town
4. TemporalLich : Town
5. Guillotina : Scum or Neutral
6. Korina : Scum
7. Almost50 : Town
9. KidAmn : Town
11. samantha97 : Strong Town
12. CaptainS : Defo Town
13. Vaxkiller : ?

Obviously people will have different opinions on what they think etc but that's my thoughts. I'd be happy to go into why/who whatever but you'll have to be more specific with who/what and I'll answer whatever questions I can etc.

But for now I'm logging off and I'll be back on GMT a.m time. So I'm not lurking. Called sleeping and resting.

[CaptainS]

oooooo you communicate with quotes? I don't see why quoting that at me helps anything?

Guillo this ones for you You talk in "quote" pretty well, I talk better in WALL

I just messed it up. I'm still struggling with the format lol

[CaptainS]

I'm tired and i'll re-read in the morning.

[CaptainS]

CaptainS you still fail to explain those reads and in the other post you replied inside my quote which is why i failed to see it but that is just AtE man. Like I'm sorry that you got a stroke, im sorry that you can only type with one hand man, i truly am, that gotta suck man. But you signed up to this game where it's important to tell us where your reads come from.

You wasted time and energy telling us about your health condition, time that you could have used to give us reads, so see? You had time to post, but you refuse to contribute.

As for your list, your read on me is wrong and you keep pushing me because you think im an easy yeet but im not, scum knows they cant kill me without getting killed in the process too, so they are trying to find a way to get town to chop me but it ain't gonna happen because im obvious town, i got no agenda and i got no TMI.

My only mission is catch scum and win my first game as town while being alive.

Excuse me wasted time. Well excuse me buddy but didn't you waste time telling us about a loved ones surgery issues.
I was merely giving background to me as you all know nothing about me. It's called providing context into my situation on which i even offered to send you the irl proof so show that it's not some made up bull. I don't consider that wasting time. The fact I'm telling you that i see it as it's important and relevant and quite frankly the way say that's wasted time and energy i've had enough of the past three years so you can either read it or not read it. I frankly don't care.

Typing with one hand. Try going through life with one hand. So that everything takes twice as long, you cant do certain things that requires two hands and quite frankly you find yourself thinking why me alot. Like this game for example. I'm thinking why have you got such a bone to pick with me.

So let's take apart every single one of your posts shall we.

You'll have to wait a bit, the incovenience of one hand and all that.

[CaptainS]

I SENT IN ONE-SHOT DEATHPROOF CULT LEADER, AND DIDN'T GET IT, I'M ANGRY ABOUT IT, DON'T REMIND ME I DIDN'T ROLL CULT

If anything I learnt in the last grand idea was never to trust your cries of disappointment for not getting a role you wanted.


VOTE: KORINA

Day 1 Fluff

I got what I wanted but

Spoiler:

it was nerfed

Same... lame.

So you purposefly went for an OP role interesting.

Fuck it, I'm claiming.

I'm a NK-Immune Miller Vig. I cannot be a SK, because like A50 said, my third pick was cult.

Why would you pick Miller?

Maybe because they wanted to?

What reason do I have to lie about being nk-immune miller vig unless I'm bulletprof scum/sk? We know I can't be a SK because my third pick is always cult, and I'd much rather keep shitposting as scum after I die.

Yah but out of 10000 roles in GIM why would you pick something with Miller in it?

See above answer

UNVOTE: Korina

So your early reads were what........

Raya is literally flipped town

-mahi

Why? Explain what it seems to me like you may have TMI.

Actually a decent post by you.

Can someone tell me why at page 5 Korina is getting townread?

Bravo two in a row.

What reason do I have to lie about being nk-immune miller vig unless I'm bulletprof scum/sk? We know I can't be a SK because my third pick is always cult, and I'd much rather keep shitposting as scum after I die.

idk to avoid nightkills to start

I mean yeah but if Korina actually picked SK this game then I'll eat my shorts.

anyway I should probably make an actual post for my second post in a row as I'm heavily discouraged from a third one but allowed to double post.

My role is confirmable during the Day, though it is best used when the thread has devolved into a 1v1.

Korina strikes me as town, Raya strikes me as town (don't have a noteworthy post, just skim the ISO and you'll see what I mean), mahi strikes me as scum, A50 is null with an iota of town, Guillotina and VFP are hard null, and sam seems like I'd townlean them later on.

Hard null sounds about how everyone reads me on when I rand town on Day 1 or as scum, I'm making progress!

Hmm not in my eyes buddy.

If I had to guess right now.

mahimahi+ - WW
Flea - town
Raya36 - scum
TemporalLich - town
Guillotina - cultist
Korina - town
Almost50 - town
KidAmn - town
Nono - SK
samantha97 - town
CaptainS - scum
Vaxkiller - scum

Fuck cultists, I hate playing as converter and much more being converted. If you plan to convert me, don't, I will out you with extremely bad cultist play.

You express thoughts about a role. So more fluff.

Raya and the maltese dog could be a team

Proof? Where how? Bad read explain?

I SENT IN ONE-SHOT DEATHPROOF CULT LEADER, AND DIDN'T GET IT, I'M ANGRY ABOUT IT, DON'T REMIND ME I DIDN'T ROLL CULT

Korina's probably lying here because there's way way way way way WAY better cult roles than this

I also don't believe their night kill immune miller vig claim at all, there's no reason to claim it if they are one

TemporalLich, did you handpick the roles for this game or randomise them?

I'm stuck in a time loop

, and there's no escape. If you know what I mean by this, then please come save us tonight. We'll be inside the red door.

-mahi

Fluff

@KidAmn: You can claim the miller part without claiming the NK-immune or vig part. Think about it:

1) If you're NK-immune, why tell all scum that you can only die if they strongman you? It means no one will waste shots on them and they'll know to use a strongman on them

2) If they're a vig, they're asking to be roleblocked

They're probably some kind of OP bulletproof cult leader

-mahi

1) A full roleclaim can earn points for honesty, assuming Korina is being truthful, and prevents us wasting vig shot/s on them

2) Following on from this, if they are as you posit "some kind of op bulletproof cult leader", what incentive do they have to claim a role that invites the attention of roleblocks, preventing them from recruiting? Unless you're suggesting they have some way of getting around that, I really don't understand where your logic is coming from here.

Fluff

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&user_select%5 ... &start=200

Just read this

Are you seriously telling me Korina picks 1-shot deathproof cult leader over the busted cult roles they've come up with? Like, you can find stuff in there like ELITE CULT LEADER THAT LITERALLY CANNOT DIE BY ANY MEANS UNTIL DAY 4 AND CAN RECEUIT 2 PLAYERS PER NIGHT or something like that, and cultmafia roles which combine the mafia and cult factions and other ridiculous busted things

-mahi

The host said that if the roles picked were broken he'd veto them. You are standing on top of a thin angleshooting line.

A decent post again.

I also don't believe their night kill immune miller vig claim at all, there's no reason to claim it if they are one

It's a bloody negative utility. Miller ALWAYS claims early or get yeeted when they are guiltied by a Cop. (Also, Millers do get yeeted before LyLo anyway)

Would you pick a Miller role as your role fora game?

What's your obsession with Millers?

Why didn't a pick a day vig role? I could use one just about now.

no one did apparently

I'm disappointed in myself because I definitely would have but I'm a sucker for extremely complex over-elaborated roles.

Fuck cultists, I hate playing as converter and much more being converted. If you plan to convert me, don't, I will out you with extremely bad cultist play.

This just scream cultis to me.

Well played

That's because you don't know me at all

Null

Everyone but the scum

Scum

Mahi
Raya


Fight me

No thank I'm disabled.

That's because you don't know me at all

Tell me about yourself.

How about no

Answering fluff

That's because you don't know me at all

Tell me about yourself.

I may or may not be a day lie detector.

Are you town?

But are you a lie detector? Question from a friend.

@A50, I'm not planning on shooting tonight, because I wanna see how many kills we have, excluding me. At most, we can have literally six SKs, but more pragmatically speaking, we probably have Mafia + SK/WW. Not only that, but we have majority throughout most of the game, so unless we lose three townies tonight, I'm not gonna shoot until I'm certain someone will flip scum.

pedit:
I picked a dayvig, but that was my mafia pick.

ppedit:
Yes, I would, because I think picking NK-Immune Miller Vig is actually a really smart move on my end. You can eliminate the odds of me being SK entirely, because I obviously pick Cult, meaning I'm either BP scum, or actually telling the truth.

This just reads "look im doing towny things, and have a towny thought process", instead of doing what everyone else would do with a vig.... shoot someone you think is scum and shrug it off if they arent.

@GUIL

You may want to read the rules regarding multiple posts in a row. (really all the rules)

I haven't had the time to read all the rules, I signed up for a relax fun game where I didn't have to worry about over complicated rules that would require a lot of attention.

My mom is pending brain surgery mid of April and all the paperwork plus the gravity of the operation prevents me from taking on too strict games. Would you mind sharing with me the general idea of those rules? So I know and don't break them?

So you don't even read the rules in a game. That's good to know.

Guillotina actually roled anti town.
I'm impressed.

If I roled anti town I would be begging the mod to allow me to kill my partner right now (you), cause he is obvious scum, I could get so much town cred.

Then what are you then. Either a town minded folk who has an incredibly bad read on me, an exe, a neutral or in fact scum.

@guil
Double posting is ok, but try not to.... multiple posting in a row is a no-no.

There are more, but those are the ones I noticed you breaking.

Glad i'm not the only one who noticed that.

Would you mind sharing with me the general idea of those rules? So I know and don't break them?

tldr is if you chain post (3+) you might get a warning, if you have 20% of the total votes at eod you get a warning/penalty vote/something

If you take the time to enter a game plesae read the rules. It's makes the life easier for the mod and well you have time to post and read 56 pages so you should have time now.

@A50, I'm not planning on shooting tonight, because I wanna see how many kills we have, excluding me. At most, we can have literally six SKs, but more pragmatically speaking, we probably have Mafia + SK/WW. Not only that, but we have majority throughout most of the game, so unless we lose three townies tonight, I'm not gonna shoot until I'm certain someone will flip scum.

pedit:
I picked a dayvig, but that was my mafia pick.

ppedit:
Yes, I would, because I think picking NK-Immune Miller Vig is actually a really smart move on my end. You can eliminate the odds of me being SK entirely, because I obviously pick Cult, meaning I'm either BP scum, or actually telling the truth.

This just reads "look im doing towny things, and have a towny thought process", instead of doing what everyone else would do with a vig.... shoot someone you think is scum and shrug it off if they arent.

@GUIL

You may want to read the rules regarding multiple posts in a row. (really all the rules)

I haven't had the time to read all the rules, I signed up for a relax fun game where I didn't have to worry about over complicated rules that would require a lot of attention.

My mom is pending brain surgery mid of April and all the paperwork plus the gravity of the operation prevents me from taking on too strict games. Would you mind sharing with me the general idea of those rules? So I know and don't break them?

Double posting is okay, but posting three or more times in a row is heavily discouraged.

If you have a disproportionate amount of posts at the end of the Day phase, you may lose your vote the next day.

Oh thanks guys, that's good to know.

So if I'm catching up, it's better if I just post a wall. Got it

So you read the cliffnotes rather than a few posts by the mod. Gotcha.

VFP is obviously town, what are you talking about?

I disagree but I'm not tunneled yet. Why is he obvious town?

Disregard because well it's Korina and well their alignment etc.

Guillotina actually roled anti town.
I'm impressed.

If I roled anti town I would be begging the mod to allow me to kill my partner right now (you), cause he is obvious scum, I could get so much town cred.

I have never seen someone so far off base and so nakedly not reading the game in a long time.

Also, fuck Toad.

More fluff

he said he had a confirmable role that will auto confirm tonight

Oh yah? And we are taking that at face value because....?

You're asking the right questions some of the time.

because it only buys him 1 day

Fluff pic again.

Yeah, I'm basically confirmed tonight or I'm gone tomorrow.

I shall wait the 16 days then.

Do that then.

Uh, because he's in my cult, which is exclusively for good boys, girls, and enbys?

I don't know what to think about you copying Spookybear the cultist gambit when he randed town in that game, yet.

Referring to something i know nothing about.

The cult order is VFP, followed by Mahi. Does anyone else want in on the cult?
If you're Guillo or Vax, you're banned from the cult. We don't share our cookies with non-believers.

I'm an atheist anyway and I never sign up to enter your cult.

Poor grammar but the sentiments their.

I'm going to bed.

This is where I'm at though.

Korina
Raya

TL
Flea
mahimahi
A50

CaptainS

KidAmn
Nono

Vaxkiller
samantha

Guill

Maybe I'm wrong on Flea.

Bah, I finally get a null which is an upgrade from always getting read scum and now you ruined it.

This guy can be town though.

A decent post

Null

Everyone but the scum

Scum

Mahi
Raya


Fight me

Ok, let's fight

Sure! What is your read on Mahi?

More non important answers.

@A50, I'm not planning on shooting tonight, because I wanna see how many kills we have, excluding me. At most, we can have literally six SKs, but more pragmatically speaking, we probably have Mafia + SK/WW. Not only that, but we have majority throughout most of the game, so unless we lose three townies tonight, I'm not gonna shoot until I'm certain someone will flip scum.

pedit:
I picked a dayvig, but that was my mafia pick.

ppedit:
Yes, I would, because I think picking NK-Immune Miller Vig is actually a really smart move on my end. You can eliminate the odds of me being SK entirely, because I obviously pick Cult, meaning I'm either BP scum, or actually telling the truth.

This just reads "look im doing towny things, and have a towny thought process", instead of doing what everyone else would do with a vig.... shoot someone you think is scum and shrug it off if they arent.

@GUIL

You may want to read the rules regarding multiple posts in a row. (really all the rules)

I haven't had the time to read all the rules, I signed up for a relax fun game where I didn't have to worry about over complicated rules that would require a lot of attention.

My mom is pending brain surgery mid of April and all the paperwork plus the gravity of the operation prevents me from taking on too strict games. Would you mind sharing with me the general idea of those rules? So I know and don't break them?

You also lose your vote the next day if you have over 20% of the posts just as an fyi

Wow.. this rule is so scum sided. Maybe I should lurk if I want to vote on Day 2 then

Hard null sounds about how everyone reads me on when I rand town on Day 1 or as scum, I'm making progress!

What if I'm not hard-nulling you??

Then I'd be satisfied or suspicious of you depending of the real read.

That's because you don't know me at all

Tell me about yourself.

How about no

No Doctor Evil meme??

LOL

What exactly is the point in one word lol posts? To look like you're contributing when it's a funny statement or to look like your more active than you are. You already are plenty active so....

i see we had some queries from our many fans

@Flea - excellent gif edit, i give it an 8/10 - keep up the good work, you're a star!

@Almost50 - i can confirm that we are infact a hydra of shoshin and bitmap

@Korina - VOTE: Korina

@Gullitonia - welcome to the wagon, traveller. make yourself comfy and treat yourself to some cookies

@samantha - <3

@Nono - how long will you be on V/LA for?

-mahi

Thank you! Your Fur is very comfy for my flat bone-y ass.

More fluff

It's been pointed out its a possibility

What an argument.
I think its possible that you're scum. Do we lim you now?

Do you townread Korina?

Asking decent questions.

Do you townread Korina?

Yes, and so should you.
In Korina we believe! My vote sticks with Korina, not against.

Nice manipulation of my point. And yes, generally speaking if you think someone is scum you try to elim them.

Thank you!
So we are agreed that there is much of a reason to lim Korina as there is to lim you.
That makes you look suspicious even more so.

Why do you townread Korina?

Be ause the moment i read all her crazy claiming it reminded me of our ladt Grand Idea game where she flipped scum and I wished i was a day vig.

Referring to past games should not be a premise on how to vote in current games. It's bad play.
They can change up the way they are playing or not. So it's just a guessing game. You are better at just taking a read on what their current post style is and what their activity is like. imo.

Should i hate my iPad, my thick fingers or both?

Pointless again.

Why do you townread Korina?

Be ause the moment i read all her crazy claiming it reminded me of our ladt Grand Idea game where she flipped scum and I wished i was a day vig.

It's not crazy talk, it's our leader looking for a better tomorrow, today!
Let's be real for a second though.

You are scum reading Korona because others have told you Korina is X Y over Z with no actual knowledge.

Without anyone using meta which can easily be manipulated into their favour, what has Korina done thats scummy?
Exactly, at a best you can say null read. The push on Korina is scum leading the way to an easy excuse of a lim with no blow back!

Stop white knighting her and stop misrepresenting my reasons to scum read people, that's svummy. I scum read Korina because she is playing the exact same way i watched her play in our last game where she was scum.

This is bad mafia play. Regardless on the outcome you cant just base it off two similar games. Their playstyles will change from game to game. I know mine do. I'll ellaborate more on that shortly.

Im sorry. Stop white Knighting him (korina).

Stop white knighting her and stop misrepresenting my reasons to scum read people, that's svummy. I scum read Korina because she is playing the exact same way i watched her play in our last game where she was scum.

So with meta only.
Your argument here is meta only.

Why are you voting who pushed the scum narrative anyway?
Did you forget who you were voting?

Your scum equity is going up with every post.

Are you telling me that scum would not push each other to distance themselves on Day 1?
Are you telling me that you didnt consider that Mahi and Korina could be scum read for independent reasons?
Ate you not aware thst there may or may not be different types of scum in this game?

Half decent.

VFP, are you for real right now or just trolling me. Like im not sure if I should even respond to you, because it looks like you just fuckin with me trying to rile me up.

@temporallich
how is that "resigned"? Korina is scummy, and the people protecting them have the silliest reasons! (listed above). I ended with an "I'm sorry" because there appears to be a good handful of people in this game who just want to play with Korina.... regardless of alignment!!!!! So I want people to know I have nothing against them and enjoy playing with them, but, sorry, they are today's fade.

That is not up for you to decide alone though. Unless you are governor or a duke? Or an Executioner.

Funny you bring up executioner. I'll talk ore about this later.

I rescind my town lean from VFP

VFP, are you for real right now or just trolling me. Like im not sure if I should even respond to you, because it looks like you just fuckin with me trying to rile me up.

I'm 100% serious.

Your scum equity is going up with every post.

Are you telling me that scum would not push each other to distance themselves on Day 1?
Are you telling me that you didnt consider that Mahi and Korina could be scum read for independent reasons?
Ate you not aware thst there may or may not be different types of scum in this game?

Mahi is town and not scum.
I think you actually forgot who you were voting for though as you're scum. You are dead set on Korina as scum and its suggested highly likely as cult leader if they are. Why would you not be voting here if you didn't believe it?
Your push is fake. Your reasons are bad.

Oh look upon removing your wool i have discovered you bot pelt underneath.

How do you know Mahi is town?

How can you prove that i forgot i was voting for Mahi? If you cant prove it, it's a shade.

You accuse me of wolf reading Korina on just based meta, yet again you are town reading him based on meta, if my read on korina is invalid because of meta, how is yours not equally invalid then?

I dont know if my reasons are bad, im uninformed, but i do believe in them so dont dare to say that they are fake.

Answering in pictures again. *Sigh*

I'm away for less than a day and 10 pages jees Louise.

First impressios is that you all talk ALOT.

Personally I don't believe a lot of the claims and it's Day 1 and soft claims/ roleclaiming Day 1 is honestly not be believed especially in a bastard set up.

I do have a few people that I'm leaning town with the way that they act and the way they are coming across to me but after all it is my first game with all of you and likewise with me. Becausr i could claim Jesus for all you know but I ain't got anything to back it up.

But for now VOTE: Korina Choo Choo

Who are you leaning town on?

I like Korina as much as the next person, but, they need voted out.

This is not "fear" of the possibility or anything, I know some of you are friends with Korina, but it's a game, and as I see it, Korina has got to go. I've posted my thoughts on it and I get agreement, but no votes, and it gets explained away (maybe another day, but I know them, someone even said "they deserve the win if they are cult" <--- Lol why? It's been pointed out its a possibility!, some of you are just roflcoptering asking to be recruited!)

Korina is today's fade. I'm sorry Korina, no hard feelings, it just is, waht it is.

I played with Korina as scum last game and I'm really not getting the same feeling from them

Really? How come? Make me see what im not seeing please.

So somebody else who played a previous game with you all with Korina. Getting a different read. This is good. People have different read on people. This is why every game should be treated omn their own merits and you should ignore past games.

VOTE: VFP

VOTE: VFP

Considering my role is 100% conformable in the night phase, you just scum claimed even further.
I will pray that our leader votes you!

God how i wish i submitted THREE day vig roles to the host right now.

Oh look upon removing your wool i have discovered you bot pelt underneath.

How do you know Mahi is town?

How can you prove that i forgot i was voting for Mahi? If you cant prove it, it's a shade.

You accuse me of wolf reading Korina on just based meta, yet again you are town reading him based on meta, if my read on korina is invalid because of meta, how is yours not equally invalid then?

I dont know if my reasons are bad, im uninformed, but i do believe in them so dont dare to say that they are fake.

Because Mahi isn't in the Mafia team.

There's no other role they could have taken other than town.

I cant meta read Korina because I have never played with them.

My reason is for scum pushing for an easy lim using Meta

.

I don't need to explain the difference, because you don't believe the scum push anyway.

But your argument here is if it can't be proven that you're lying even though it's obvious, it's not true?

Well my counter to that is I proved that you forgot who you were voting for

, prove that I didn't or you claim scum.

Your reasons are uniformed that meta beats game? Well I'm telling you now, it's fake. And I'll uniform that all game.

This guy is obvious scum, i actually feel bad for your team because you surely cannot blend in. Honestly all i have to do know is how people interact with you to find the other scum. I think Korina might not be scum for the way you white knighted her.

Why did upsized the sentences of the quote. I will tell you now.

1) How do you know Mahi isn't in a mafia team?

2) If you don't have meta on Korina, why do you assume he is an easy lim?

3) My argument is that you can't possibly know that i forgot unless you are a GODDAMN psychic!

You are making stuff up to push on me for pushing on your scum teammate OR on someone you ate trying to pocket. But you are scum here.

I will tell you one last thing. I've played mafia for two decades now, from way before you started calling tjis game mafia, it was warewolves before. I never forget whom i vote for. Ever.

Still deeply unhappy about leaving Korina alive and unleashed as a claimed miller vig, but given that the town apparently just wants to roll with it I don't know how much more I can argue for what is essentially a policy "lynch or leash" on that front. Still fairly sure Korina/mahi was not TvT and want to come back to that at some point this weekend.

It is somewhat concerning that we seem to have multiple players either straight up not engaging with the game, or reading the game and coming to completely different (and in Guillotina's case easily proven wrong) conclusions. That said, presumably given that post #0 states all PTs have day talk, if they're scum/wolves/Aliens/etc they'd be being coached out of that... unless they're solo... urgh. This is why I hate Grand Idea UPicks. Why did I sign up for another goddamn Grand Idea UPrick.

VOTE: Guillotina for now, pushing someone who by their own admission either sorts themselves tomorrow or has a lot of explaining to do is phenomenally anti-town. There are

far

better places for us to be looking for scum today, and this feels to me like an attempt at creating noise to drive the discussion elsewhere.

Elsewhere? You are wrong. Im open to all discussions? Where do you think i don't want to go today?

A somewhat half decent post.


Right I'm oly 13 odd pages through or something and I have irl stuff to do.
So basically you post alot of fluff, toad pictures and my guess would be a quarter of the time you are asking the right questions.

I'll say it again for people tldr. Basing votes on previous games on bad mafia play all around. You are not giving the game the best true accont. You should be locking into this game and thinking the past is the past. I'm not saying don't use a little bit of it just to influence your thinking but the way you lock down on stuff it's screams of bad play to me.

Do i think you're town. Maybe. But i have a couple of things going against you atm. The questioning of me.

Yes that's warranted. I've had a busy irl at the moment and it's catching up on me at the moment and i didn't expect the day phases to move as quickly as they are right now. The friend who suggested the site ( who isn't int his game in case you were wondering ) said you have to post once a day. I took that as day phase not irl actual day so i was like shit when Ircher messaged me about the posting etc. So yes i have to hold my hand up on that regard. Thogh as i pointed out i wasn't the only one who didn't have ful knowledge of the ruleset but as a member for longer and then attacking me for wasting time about posting about my medical condition I think it's pretty cheeky when they ain't read the rules. Pot kettle black etc.


Yes. I haven't posted alot. I don't know any of you and half of the posts on here in the early phases were fluff and well it's hard to get in on the act when you are the new boy. But i should have made more of an effort. And i do talk irl enough for everybody.

Yes I'm town. I've said it all along. Elim me waste the day, Invest me do whatever you so please at this point if your minds are made up.

Guillo. I'm not sure what you are. Town or not. But if you are town and you waste the day by voting me up. Then we lose by the day we could have taken by getting somebody else elimmed. It'll be your fault not mine. Just saying.

Irl matters first so I gotta shoot but i'll be back around later.

[CaptainS]

CaptainS you still fail to explain those reads and in the other post you replied inside my quote which is why i failed to see it but that is just AtE man. Like I'm sorry that you got a stroke, im sorry that you can only type with one hand man, i truly am, that gotta suck man. But you signed up to this game where it's important to tell us where your reads come from.

You wasted time and energy telling us about your health condition, time that you could have used to give us reads, so see? You had time to post, but you refuse to contribute.

As for your list, your read on me is wrong and you keep pushing me because you think im an easy yeet but im not, scum knows they cant kill me without getting killed in the process too, so they are trying to find a way to get town to chop me but it ain't gonna happen because im obvious town, i got no agenda and i got no TMI.

My only mission is catch scum and win my first game as town while being alive.

Excuse me wasted time. Well excuse me buddy but didn't you waste time telling us about a loved ones surgery issues.
I was merely giving background to me as you all know nothing about me. It's called providing context into my situation on which i even offered to send you the irl proof so show that it's not some made up bull. I don't consider that wasting time. The fact I'm telling you that i see it as it's important and relevant and quite frankly the way say that's wasted time and energy i've had enough of the past three years so you can either read it or not read it. I frankly don't care.

Typing with one hand. Try going through life with one hand. So that everything takes twice as long, you cant do certain things that requires two hands and quite frankly you find yourself thinking why me alot. Like this game for example. I'm thinking why have you got such a bone to pick with me.

So let's take apart every single one of your posts shall we.

You'll have to wait a bit, the incovenience of one hand and all that.

*Grabs the popcorn machine*

ok i missed/cant remember the health stuff you mentioned, and I wish you and loved ones a speedy recovery Captain.

Guill you know my health stuff from TLGIM, you know thats not a good thing to pick on.

Thanks very much. Kind of you to say.

Yeh i had a stroke 3 years ago. Whole right side was paralyzed. Had to learn to walk, talk, eat properly again. 17 days in hospital. Month in rehab. 9 months at home physio. Right hand don't work. Post stroke fatigue syndrome. 2 bouts of therapy. 1 great wife and loving support network.

But stuff that Guillo just said out of order. Waste of time i don't believe so. Context provided.

[CaptainS]

Oh i forgot the brain damage lol

But hey i'm alive!

[CaptainS]

Guil I got ADHD and Chronic pain whuppin me and as per my signature my current meds are funky enough that I can't legally drive on them until I'm aware of how much they affect me.


Anyhoo, still happy with my vote.


@Captain: If you're looking for a specific users posts, you can click ISO on that users posts and there's a lil box at the bottom that lets you "Display posts by user:" if that helps you

Guill I'm not seeing the IC?

Many thanks!

[CaptainS]

The grenade bounce has me scratching my head a bit. Just mainly because i don't know how actions are processed on here and how they are worded.

What are peoples thoughts on this in particular?

[CaptainS]

Pssst you double posted Scum!

But cheers and yes still voting Guillo and this info only confirms that.

[CaptainS]

You got me

Why does it confirm that?

Just my reads on his behaviour the fact it is so up and down. It's just inconsistent between good and bad town play. That's why I'm unsure on it and i feel my vote is best there at the moment. I am prepared to move it if other people are wannting the elim on somebody else.

[CaptainS]

Watch how scum are trying to change the game state towards casting suspicion on me for my claimed actions.

They can't afford to let me live past the day,

they fear me. (And they are right to fear me).

“What will Guillotina do? Will he target one of us? Or will he target himself trying to catch us attempting a night kill on him?”.

Why this wording?

[CaptainS]

"They cant afford to let me live past the day" is what i was referencing

[CaptainS]

Confirms my vote on where i want to place it today. Sorry it was really badly worded.

Not on any info /any stuff because like i said i have no night information whatsoever.

Apologies for the poor phrasing.

[CaptainS]

We yeet Samantha and i target someone in our PoE and we let scum take care of the Alien, if not im happy with the Alien winning as long as it's not scum that wins.

the reason why temporal wanted me dead was because of mahimahi's potential role, not because we need someone to kill mafia more generally

that's what voting used to be for

No, we need you dead so i can do my job.

The way i see it, Mahi is scum's problem unless we can eliminate your teammates first then Mahi becomes our problem. Me not killing Mahi is gonna force scum to waste a nightkill on them instead of killing us unless they are ok with letting Mahi win. To think i wanted Mahi dead and now they become a nice strategic element for us.

Just a general question. You are talking all the time about having a grenade and it being returned to you etc. Can you point me to the exact post where somebody else confirms your role rather than it being your words/thoughts so that we aren't leading the vote away from you.

I'm happy for my vote to not be on you but it looks like you are leading town right now and i would rather we not waste another day with somebody not being elimmed.

[CaptainS]

I'm not convinced about yeeting Sam, for 2 reasons:
a) I don't fully trust Guillotina and this plan involves, as mentioned prior, functionally sacrificing a virtually mechconf town player and giving Guillo sole control of "our elim" for this cycle
b) I'm not sure that potentially accelerating the pace of the game actually helps town that much. Assuming we go through and elim Sam (down to 8) and then Guillo grenades someone (7) and presumably scum shoot Guillo (6) - if Guillo's scumdar is off and Sam

is

town, we're suddenly very likely to be in a very, very bad spot depending on how many non-town players are left in this game.

Admittedly, it's possible (but v. low odds given no non-town iterations of Sam's claimed role exist in the GIM thread) that we just win the game, or put ourselves in a very good position, but I'm something of a combat pragmatist and there feels too much to possibly go wrong here. That said, I'm also not sure there

is

another way out short of ignoring mahi's slot entirely and trusting to our scumhunting to get us there. In a "normal" game I'd be less concerned, but given this is a GIPick it's absolutely possible we've put ourselves in a no- or very low odds to- win position.

This is probably the best post of the day phase.

Their is no rush into a decision here. We have time to formulate a plan and then go with it. My availabily is limited this weekend but i'll be around more Monday ( i did message Ircher and tell him )

One thing that sticks out to me. Guillo saying that the host ignored him about the query about grenades.

1. Either it's a load of bull and he's lying through his teeth.
2. It's a game mechanic of one of the roles Guillos or the person influencing the the block/deflection etc.

Be around more tomorrow/Monday apologies.

[CaptainS]

Why have you remained holstered all the game can i just ask? I just wanted your thoughts behind this.

[CaptainS]

The case to elim Samantha is an interesting one. Having read back over the past two days properly.
I'm still eering on the side of caution as we have until Friday until the deadline. But if push comes to shove i'll vote with the town majority.

Guillo losing his voting power is a big concern for the fact that i brought attention to earlier. Surely having played mafia before and not reading the posting rules STILL is a huge red flag for me.

[CaptainS]

Guillo losing his voting power is a big concern for the fact that i brought attention to earlier. Surely having played mafia before and not reading the posting rules STILL is a huge red flag for me.

Why are you attacking a mechtown player

Not attacking. Just pointing out the obvious. Why break the rules AGAIN.

Just a question that's all and a valid one at that.

And let's just outright roeclaim now for me. I'm Jesus Townie.

[CaptainS]

I would echo Samanthas thoughts regarding Guillo as well tbh.

[CaptainS]

VOTE: Samantha

If you don't do as what is promised tonight Guillo you're next.

[CaptainS]

Oh damn lol

[CaptainS]

I'm not scum.
I've always maintained I'm town and have come in tot the game with simple fact so i dont get caught out.

Tell the truth at all times. Because I'm fucking town jesus.

I have no night abilities and see nothing at night.

I said previously and you can go back and look that if Guillo doesn't follow through after we yeeted Samantha with his getting rid of Mahi that i will be voting him today. So that's what I'm doing.

VOTE: Vote Guillo

As regards to my activity yeh life gets in the way sometimes you know but I'm still here and partaking in the game. Just because I have a low post count and don't have loads of fluff posts that shouldn't be held against me.

There is no point in speaking sometimes unless you have something worthwhile to say.
That's how I play the game.

Like it or lump it.

But if you're going to get lead by Guillo on another dance today like previous days, how many has he wasted and how successful has it been?

My point exactly.

Regards

[CaptainS]

I'm not scum.
I've always maintained I'm town and have come in tot the game with simple fact so i dont get caught out.

Tell the truth at all times. Because I'm fucking town jesus.

I have no night abilities and see nothing at night.

I said previously and you can go back and look that if Guillo doesn't follow through after we yeeted Samantha with his getting rid of Mahi that i will be voting him today. So that's what I'm doing.

VOTE: Vote Guillo

As regards to my activity yeh life gets in the way sometimes you know but I'm still here and partaking in the game. Just because I have a low post count and don't have loads of fluff posts that shouldn't be held against me.

There is no point in speaking sometimes unless you have something worthwhile to say.
That's how I play the game.

Like it or lump it.

But if you're going to get lead by Guillo on another dance today like previous days, how many has he wasted and how successful has it been?

My point exactly.

Regards

If you are town fucking unvote and play to our wincon, if you are just gonna lurk and dont contribute to the game, the very least you can do is to not throw the game for us.

Don't accuse me of gamethrowing and don't say fucking unvote me.

I said what i would do in the previous day. YOU did not do what you had said you would. It's on YOU.

Don't speak to me in that manner again after what you said to me previously especially considering what i told you all medically and you made very light out of the situation.

[CaptainS]

I'm not scum.
I've always maintained I'm town and have come in tot the game with simple fact so i dont get caught out.

Tell the truth at all times. Because I'm fucking town jesus.

I have no night abilities and see nothing at night.

I said previously and you can go back and look that if Guillo doesn't follow through after we yeeted Samantha with his getting rid of Mahi that i will be voting him today. So that's what I'm doing.

VOTE: Vote Guillo

As regards to my activity yeh life gets in the way sometimes you know but I'm still here and partaking in the game. Just because I have a low post count and don't have loads of fluff posts that shouldn't be held against me.

There is no point in speaking sometimes unless you have something worthwhile to say.
That's how I play the game.

Like it or lump it.

But if you're going to get lead by Guillo on another dance today like previous days, how many has he wasted and how successful has it been?

My point exactly.

Regards

If you're voting guillo you're scum

Apart from the fact I'm town, always have been and you are wrong.

[CaptainS]

I'll stick to my word

So i stick to my word about voting Guillo on what i said the previous day and get voted up.

But you are going to stick to your word and that's ok.

Double standards much?

[CaptainS]

Captain, get this through your head! I got blocked! I GOT BLOCKED!

If your vote ends on me, i fucking promise you, i’ll policy kill you tonight with the salt rifle. The remaining scum is between you and flea so im willing to find out.

Thank shoot me if you have a salt rifle.
It'll be a wasted shot.

Because Sam died the day previous and she was the only one i know off that gave the impression has a roleblocker ability.

[CaptainS]

That's true. Just to be clear, we don't need to get rid of the jester in anyway for our wincon?

So Flea/

Captain

could be scum. Mahi is scum we can't get rid of. Kid is scum turned jester.

Fixed it for you

[CaptainS]

UNVOTE: Unvote Guillo

Will read more after tomorrow but i'm getting my second Covid jab in the afternoon.

But I'm enjoying reading all this and the explanations Mahi is giving now.

[CaptainS]

Guillo is not scum. Flea might be. I don't have time right now to list everything but I will sometime tonight, even though I'm still pretty confident you're scum anyway.

Maybe you're all scum. Maybe we're just waiting for you all to realise that and lynch me, the last bastion of the town in a world gone mad.

UNVOTE: Unvote Guillo

Will read more after tomorrow but i'm getting my second Covid jab in the afternoon.

But I'm enjoying reading all this and the explanations Mahi is giving now.

Oh I bet you're enjoying this, assholes.

Excuse me.

If we are going around like that then you're a cunt for voting me?

I simply commented on the state of the game and the change of tune in Mahis attitude this day phase.
No reason to call me an asshole.

I'll be voting no elim at this stage unless this asshole apologise.

[CaptainS]

Well i woke up to a furry of posts as usual.

My role. Post 1026 on the thread for roles. Jesus Townie
Roles i entered but did not get.

Post 264. Backup Serial Killer

Post 3843. Mafia Ghost Writer

The reason the scum in this game have left me alive is because they know it's easy to divert attention my way. I can only gain information through reads and not night actions. So with regards to my role i don't have any info that will 100% clear me as town for definite but that's ion me.

Guillo: The info you've put forward regarding Rayas "slip" is intruiging but i don't have the time to go through it this morning but i agree with Raya because of your playstyle and the way that you have been this game it has been very hard to follow you.

I do not believe that anybody in the game should be unkillable and unyeetable so something is obviously off regarding the mahi and to be quite honest i think it's in the night actions as they've been voted up before but like we all know that this is a crazy game.

[CaptainS]

My activity is going to be limited the next day or two. I fell this morning and fractured my fucking shoulder.
Off to see Orthopedics tomorrow but i am reading all just explaining my absence as im guna be very drugged up.

[CaptainS]

My activity is going to be limited the next day or two. I fell this morning and fractured my fucking shoulder.
Off to see Orthopedics tomorrow but i am reading all just explaining my absence as im guna be very drugged up.

Ouch. I hope for a speedy recovery. I sprained my back last week moving furniture so I kinda feel your pain.

I just need you to vote to be honest.

Thatnks Guillo and my vote will be. I'm just sitting her feeling sorry for myself lol

[CaptainS]

Thanks for hosting Ircher.

Well that was a mental introduction to this site.