MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

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Is it odd of me to anticipate the derivation of variable pleasure from the present company?

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VOTE: nom3

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I passed Calculus II with a C+ and it's the shittiest grade I am most proud of.

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I would like everyone to detail their relationship with math, your answers will be considered alignment-indicative.

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I would like everyone to detail their relationship with math, your answers will be considered alignment-indicative.

I'm a high school student who does competitive math and got a 9 on the AIME.

Big brain

Anyways, let's get down to business with this game. Let's remember where we are:

The land is divided into three main kingdoms by a fast-flowing river: Analysha, Geom, and Algebrea. In the center lies the capital of Calculasia, Rigoria, and it is a neutral land belonging to none of the three kingdoms.

And the current situation.

"Wait! There's thirteen of us though there should only be ten!" one of you shout. Indeed, this is the case: for each kingdom sends three representatives, the capital sends another, and a eleventh is chosen from all the lands to serve as the Chief Councillor.

This implies that, of the town players, we've got 3 from the math fields of analysis (calculus), 3 from subjects relating to geometry, and 3 from subjects relating to algebra. Now, there's no way of knowing if this is accurate, but it's not like we have anything else to talk about. So, my question is, which of the kingdoms do you hail from? If this gives away your role somehow, then you don't have to answer this question. But I personally can't see any way that the fact that I'm from

Analysha

would give away useful information.

Ah... a scum claim on page 3!
VOTE: Xlos

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My Role PM doesn't mention a location, but to be fair, I didn't understand half of what my PM was saying.

Xlos doesn't know that because he doesn't have a green role PM

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MURDERCAT town, Xlos scum.

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Ah... a scum claim on page 3!

Explain??

P.S. I am already voting there, but it was RVS. Request to sheep based on your reasoning.

If you have a town role PM, it should be glaringly obvious.

Xlos thinks town PMs have some flavor about a geographic location... probably because his scum role PM has one.

Maybe yours too, since you didn't notice.

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My husband is a statistician and I will NOT ask him to work this out.

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Somewhat scum lean, he's been really quiet and his vote is on me, and it hasn't moved since his logic got undermined.

Yeah I got bored with the silliness of "more scum in the first three posters" - I post when I get my game start message from the mod regardless of alignment, I assume everyone else does the same unless they're caught up in fascinating strategy discussions in their scum PT.

I'll keep my vote on you just to bug.

Right now I don't know who else to vote for.

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Nom3 is town!

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It's still early but Jake and MURDERCAT give off good vibrations.

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VOTE: Flea

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VOTE: Flea

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I'm doubling the annihilator LOL

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Jake is town.

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DIE SCUM DIE

VOTE: nomnomnom

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To wit:

Honestly you're acting like Not_Mafia right now, so for the record VOTE: Flea

just for the record if Flea does actually flip town this is 90% a scumpost

The above is a scumpost.

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VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

Good evening, everyone. *Yelling up at Ircher* and happy birthday to you!

I'll help ya

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

A50 that vote is a scum claim, do better.

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Putting nom at E-2 before he gets to post is better.

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That is an acceptable way for you to bus your buddy and I welcome it.

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How rude
For real though this is bad. On top of that scum have blocked my night action so all round depressing.
VOTE: Jake

What a pathetic PR soft, soft.

Who is going to be a hero and put this scum at E-1 so that his buddy A50 is forced to make good on his promise to hammer?

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What a pathetic PR soft, soft.

Anyone who has read my ISO knows that I've made obviously clear I have some sort of power

Yes, the nightkill.

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If a50 promised to hammer then I guess I'll have to claim if I'm ever put at E-1, which is a shame but eh
depressing game where I'm blocked by scum

If you're blocked, it's by town LOL.

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That is a lie.

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The green light is on to hammer that scum.

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I've literally softed my role from page 2

I reported your post to site admins for misinformation.

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That's not "friendly neighbor Miller," I'm not going to argue with scum anymore, please someone be a hero and end this. Thanks.

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T3, you know what to do.

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Nom wasn't even the hammer, it was Jake.

Let's just finish this.

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Claiming miller day 2, LOL, AND "blocked friendly neighbor" AND it's gonna get harder to have prime number pages SO SAD

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T3 is town.

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When did you claim Miller?

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and if you don't want to believe me here's a page that describes what my flavor is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number_theorem
that's quite literally the first paragraph
pedit: I didn't claim miller before, I claimed miller now because that's my role, and there's also flavor as to why I'm miller in my role PM

So, to reiterate, you claimed miller day 2.

And OF COURSE you were blocked.

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I look forward to your beautiful red flip <3

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HUGE EYEROLL

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Nom is scum and cannot township.

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DIE SCUM

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So, yeah, I am a one-shot cop, no point hiding it since I am vanilla now.

I investigated and obviously got a guilty.

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Basically I fakehammered nom. He had a good reaction and basically got annoyed and claimed town.

You didn't fake hammer, nom was at E-2.

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...I also said that. I think a scum roleblocked me, I refuse to believe a town roleblocker would block me here considering my very early post

Why wouldn't scum roleblock me LOL

DIE SCUM

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Note that SCUMnom hasn't specified what power he gets from the day ending on a prime number page, which would be in addition to the "friendly neighbor miller" fakeclaim.

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Honestly you're acting like Not_Mafia right now, so for the record VOTE: Flea

just for the record if Flea does actually flip town this is 90% a scumpost

This post totally melted my town read.

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That's a good question, why did you get a result if I'm scum

You might have searched for crumbs TODAY and not at night.

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How is this even a scumpost
it's obvious someone making this kind of post after someone got hammered if incredibly suspicious is the hammered person flips town
it's like a scum that doesn't want to take any risk

When Flea,

WHO YOU TOO VOTED FOR

, flipped green.

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That's a good question, why did you get a result if I'm scum

You might have searched for crumbs TODAY and not at night.

As I said the literal only reason you were my target is because I instantly spotted the crumb at the beginning
if I was scum you would have died 100%

You didn't target anything, you are not a friendly neighbor, you are scum.

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a good majority of the time I find PRs day 1 and they get nightkilled

So who was nightkilled and what was their power?

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there's a method to the madness here

There's literally no method to the madness because we don't know what the alleged pay off is.

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The pay off is:
I am literally confirmed

What's the point of that if you failed to claim miller???

And then after you are "literally" confirmed you'd get NK'd.

Makes ZERO sense as a role, ZERO sense as town if the role even exists.

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I'll out myself as well as it is necessary. I am a 2-Shot Roleblocker, and I blocked nom³.

This needs to be stated because nom³

was

blocked.

I blocked them because I don't believe town is as audacious to openly claim role benefits of hammering on a prime number page.

I'm not certain what to make of the current situation, but I did scum read nom³ going into night phase.

We found nom's scumbuddy.

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by the way if we could end days with a prime number of pages that would be very great thank you

Toog, you are lying scum.

Nom never said they needed to HAMMER on a prime number page.

Only that the day needed to end on a prime number page.

Your scum team is imploding.

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Jake, nom claimed to have targeted me with Friendly Neighbor.

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Jake, nom claimed to have targeted me with Friendly Neighbor.

yes and now it's confirmed I actually got roleblocked which is why you didn't receive it
do you believe me now or

No, I don't believe you because there is nothing in your actually lame role that would have prevented you from claiming Miller in the first post like everyone does.

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I mean big reason why i hammered really is because I can see how this day would have gone with this shit you're doing

, and I have a role that profits from doing this

, so shrug

Nom lied about that, too.

First it was "day needs to end on prime page" and now "profits from hammering on prime page."

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Why does town post that?

I would post that as town. You need everyone's collaboration in making the day end on a certain kind of page number. I would 100% post this as town.

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Jake, nom claimed to have targeted me with Friendly Neighbor.

And was (allegedly) roleblocked.
If a scum roleblocker existed, they would'be targetted Nom, not because their role was particularly powerful but they claimed to have a role.
If Nom is scum, then a scum roleblocker probably (see: definitely) doesn't exist.

got it

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I'm bad because I got a guilty?

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So a miller didn't claim miller on day 1.

mkay

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Wait what

Are you reading the game? I got a guilty on nom.

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Titus picked up that I have a guilty.

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DGB, flavorclaim?

First Derivative Test

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Uhm is it bad that I believe nom claim

Let’s see

DGB t3 toog town.

That’s all I got for now

Yes it's bad.

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I don't really trust DGB's claim, is the thing. I also don't think a cop CCs another cop this early.

But you trust nom's?

Nom, who could sense that I got a guilty on him overnight, and decided to suddenly claim miller?

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^@DGB

The softs were inconsistent. First it was beneficial to end the day on a prime number page, which morphed to nom hammering on a prime number page.

Nom claimed that the benefit of doing this is to be a friendly neighbor.

But nom said he was a miller, but for incoherent reasons, decided not to claim this.

The obvious proper play is to claim miller day 1, then use the power at night and be a friendly neighbor miller.

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Where did I say that I trusted Nom's claim?

You certainly seem to emphasize doubting me right now.

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MathBlade replaces theslimer3.

Weall know what it means s for a slot to be replaced twice already, do 't we?

But I would feel bad denying Mathblade playing a game with this flavour so he's my tomorrow's push

I vibe with this.

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let nomnomnom attempt to send out a message, and if someone can confirm them

So they can claim being roleblocked again, or have their buddy pretend they got confirmation?

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I don’t see why it checked Nom. Cop checks are generally done on null reads.

I made my decision based on the wagon. Nom's post was awful, and though nom hammered, at the time I believed it was at the penultimate vote. You can't criticize this decision since I did get a guilty.

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DGB commonly claims guilties on buddies.

Commonly? I did that once that I remember, in Yellowstone, where I fakeclaimed 1-shot cop. You think I'd do exactly the same gambit? You'd think I'd be a little bit more creative about it.

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It looks like the Miller claim is probably true. If nom wasn't lying about being blocked, I don't think he'd lie about being a Miller. And I still think dgb is town.

The miller wasn't claimed on Day 1, and no good reason was offered for the delay other than getting caught.

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I asked why nomnom

I did answer. Do you ant me to repeat?

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My first two morning posts.

DIE SCUM DIE

VOTE: nomnomnom

To wit:

Honestly you're acting like Not_Mafia right now, so for the record VOTE: Flea

just for the record if Flea does actually flip town this is 90% a scumpost

The above is a scumpost.

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You’re saying it’s a guilty over

I thought that doing this right out of the gate would be hint enough, and some players did take the hint.

You seem very focused on trying to find fault with me. But my choice of player did land me a guilty, so it was a very good choice.

You wrote: "I don’t think a mod puts 2-3 cops of various types (you, Titus, A50) (even one shot) in a game with a full doctor and a roleblocker." Did you notice that I said that I believe Toog may be a scum roleblocker?

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We have a whopping 3 cop claims

Some may be lying, but it's not me.

I believe the proof of this is when nomnomnom felt compelled to lie and fakeclaim miller.

Whether you believe that nom is in fact a town friendly-neighbor/miller (and I doubt an esteemed player such as yourself would fall for such egregious nonsense), or by applying Occam's Razor, plain scum, the only conclusion is that

I got a guilty on a player that is in fact guilty

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If find this very scummy coming from MathBlade because

my guilty is a correct guilty

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the “smart” thing to do is just sheep it but I am struggling with that.

Another MathBlade quote pings:

"its play doesn’t lead toward it being a cop"

- as if my anyone can pigeonhole my play.

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Titus is definitely town.

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DGB isn’t even trying

I got a guilty, I want my guilty to be eliminated, how am I "not trying???"

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I have the second highest post count in the game and I'm "not trying."

Titus, I think MathBlade may be scum here. I'd appreciate your input.

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@DGB, I think Math is the townbeard here but I'm open to being wrong. The steadfast refusal to consider other opinions is NAI.

Alright.

What puzzles me the most is that in the event that I am claiming a guilty on a buddy which I have done in the past, why would my buddy nomnom in this hypothetical scenario claim miller?

Does it not make more sense that nom fabricated a miller claim on day 2 when he sensed i must have had a guilty?

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Is today the day where we massclaim D2 for legitimately no reason?! What the fuck.

Neighbor claims are NAI so why not?

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This was all claimed before I posted Jake.

It’s partially why I have a problem believing DGB here.

There’s nothing new in the way of claims here.

A one shot cop claim is absolutely perfect for sneaking by and not being checked and willing to sacrifice one of their own so DGB goes deep.

The player i sacrificed was a lurking newbie who was more useful dead than alive.

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MathBlade you are ignoring my request to explain how nom claiming miller on day 2 when I obv'd a guilty result fit with the alignments you are suggesting.

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always just elim the claimed guilty.

And nom has acknowledged that he would be guilty to a cop investigation, so there's that.

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That actually doesn’t mean anything unless there is a second cop/rolecop like I think which makes your claim sus as fuck?

This only makes sense in Opposite Land.

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How we are letting a player get away who claimed miller AFTER getting caught is a mystery to me.

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I had no choice but to claim

YOU CLAIMED MILLER

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Don't kill the person who claims friendly neighbor without giving them a chance to confirm themselves + risk/reward analysis for why.

They'll "confirm" to their buddy or claim roleblock.

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Like really as much as you think my role is stupid it's my role, if I was scum making a fakeclaim it'd look way more convincing than that and I've been nommed for brilliant fakeclaims before it's not pure hubris
I came in today feeling so bad because I have the kind of role people simply won't believe because it sounds outlandish and they just see my play as bad play, but again I played like this for a reason, if I can confirm myself I don't need to claim miller and eat a vig shot in the process, good way to waste my role
just give me a chance to confirm myself and allow scums to make a mistake here, by not limming me you are forcing scums to make a decision around my slot and you'll see i'm not lying

Could it be

Because you claimed miller after you got caught?

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like we wouldn't be in this mess if toog didn't roleblock me for starters, i just got entirely shafted, people wouldn't go around claiming my play to be garbage for not claiming miller day 1 if I didn't get blocked and you did receive my FN because then you'd understand my process and understand i'm just town

If you were town, you'd be screaming that Toog is a scum roleblocker.

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I have succumbed to the temptation and suggested they might be a scum RB before, myself.

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like we wouldn't be in this mess if toog didn't roleblock me for starters,

If you're town, how could you not foresee that SCUM would roleblock you if you claimed to earn a power if the day ends on a prime number page?

And you were merely roleblocked, while Flea who had claimed nothing was killed. If you're scum, the scum won't NK you, if you get my drift.

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Why would a scum roleblocker claim they blocked me it makes literally no sense

They're your buddy covering yo'ass
and
they hope they can pass as town roleblocker

How can you not see that? It's pretty obvious.

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Fanciful

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but DGB’s claim is an action

People were asked to flavor claim, I'm the only one who has actually claimed a role in addition to the flavor.

That's why my claim is singularly an action - so far.

QED

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I can't believe we have a guilty and we're even thinking voting some other player.

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A miller/friendly neighbor who gains powers on prime numbers pages makes no sense.

Nom already lied on Day 1 by not claiming miller.

He has not explained how the powers are granted if the days end on a prime number. Is the FN one-time only? Apparently not, since nom proposed to use the FN lower again tonight.

So the FN is ungated.

How does that square with gaining powers on prime number page day end?

In addition to being miller.

Now - if you're a miller, you announce it.
You want to end the day on a prime number page? Spam.

Nom is lying, can we end this?

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I routinely make 5 posts in a row when I catch up.

The rest of my post stands.

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Argh nom is scum

An ungated friendly neighbor who is also a miller and gains STILL SECRET additional powers on prime day ends that are POORLY defined

And was oh so conveniently roleblocked

And OH claimed miller after I softed a guilty

IS LYING SCUM

It's all laid bare right in front of us

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@Toog, why did you roleblock nomnomnom instead of letting him resolve?

I found it suspicious that anyone who is town would openly claim they could use a role after meeting conditions on Day 1. Town would likely fear a blocking mechanic from scum more than scum would fear one from town.

If nom is scum and scum has a roleblocker... maybe not!!!

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The way I understand it is that nomnomnom can only act on prime ends, not that he gets additional power from prime ends.

correct

Oh well that's new

The claim changed again thanks to Titus feeding answers.

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Scum team is Titus, Toogeloo and Nom, I rest my case.

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I am never, ever stopping voting nom. I got a guilty and he's not getting away with claiming miller after getting caught.

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The way I understand it is that nomnomnom can only act on prime ends, not that he gets additional power from prime ends.

correct

Oh well that's new

The claim changed again thanks to Titus feeding answers.

Where did he say it the other way?

It's what he didn't say.

Look.

I am parking my vote on him until he's good and dead for the remainder of the game.

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They are scum together!!!!!

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Toog provided nom cover for the so-called failure of his friendly neighbor action.

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DGB, if Nos flips town will you promise to vote in my scumpool until they are dead?

Deal but I hope you'll consider Toog.

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DGB, if Nos flips town will you promise to vote in my scumpool until they are dead?

@Toog, why did you roleblock nomnomnom instead of letting him resolve?

I found it suspicious that anyone who is town would openly claim they could use a role after meeting conditions on Day 1. Town would likely fear a blocking mechanic from scum more than scum would fear one from town.

If nom is scum and scum has a roleblocker... maybe not!!!

..are you suggesting that their roleblocker roleblocked their scumbuddy Nom?

No I am suggesting that Toog is lying and did not roleblock nom.

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He just provided cover to make his buddy's fake story believable at no cost to himself, in the sense that an argument could be made that he did that as town.

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@Toog, why did you roleblock nomnomnom instead of letting him resolve?

I found it suspicious that anyone who is town would openly claim they could use a role after meeting conditions on Day 1. Town would likely fear a blocking mechanic from scum more than scum would fear one from town.

If nom is scum and scum has a roleblocker... maybe not!!!

..are you suggesting that their roleblocker roleblocked their scumbuddy Nom?

To be more specific, if the scum has a roleblocker, they may think it's less likely for the town to have one, and gambit accordingly.

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Toog is already in my scumpool.

VOTE: nos

You're to vote Xlos and Toog.

Then you have free reign to vote whomever not in my townblock. If both Xlos and Toog flip scum, Math does not live to lylo and is out of my townblock.

The only exception to this rule is a confirmed guilty.

If nom is scum, you have my vote on Toog tomorrow.

I will require little encouragement to vote Xlos, no worries.

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Also Titus is locktown now for brazenly negotiating control of my vote

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Do you care DGB? I feel like when I discuss mechanics with you that you're never going to trust me after Deco.

Each game is its own universe!

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I blocked Galron last night; they're probably pissed off about it. I'm out of roleblocks.

It was a gut shot blocking.

Is this something you'd say if you were town hoping to block a scum?

hell naw

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Flavors obviously have some meaning.

And so they do, since the scum had a "flavor cop."

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Good job yesterday .

I accept and welcome your praise

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Xlos' entry into this day is very townie.

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Also, Jake the memeing in place of solving needs to stop.

VOTE: Jake

I think this person should die.

Thoughts will be released later.

Are you claiming scum AGAIN????

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Is Toog...

• a town roleblocker
  who happened to
  block a player who claimed to be a conditional PR
  ?
  
• scum (any role or goon)
  who
  pretended
  to have blocked nom to give credence to nom's claim of having been roleblocked?

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Do you care DGB? I feel like when I discuss mechanics with you that you're never going to trust me after Deco.

Does DGB care about what? I feel like there’s a missing post here or this is meant for a scum PT. This doesn’t compute.

She wants to know if I care that she is submitting her vote to my will given how she rolled me in a another game

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hasn’t discussed any other reads.

I can discuss other reads now that I am free from the shackles of getting you all to vote a bloody guilty.

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a claimed RB

I found the anomaly.

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MathBlade, for a paranoid MathDude, you sure are trusting Toogeloo.

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OH RLY, A50???

I'm a bit distrustful of Titus' posts today. I'm disinterested in nom³ and actually feel as though they conjured up a perfect storm of unluckiness of their own posts.

I'm willing to clear both DGB and nom³ as town here.

VOTE: Titus

Titus sheep's you and then has been putting in a lot of effort to discredit nom³. If you have a guilty, why put in effort to discredit?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: nomnomnom

For me it's a combination of policy and too many coincidences that seals nom³.

Policy in the sense that they should have claimed Miller Day 1, and the fact that they probably wouldn't have drawn my roleblock if they hadn't made a big deal about them having an action.

Coincidence overload in the fact that they just so happen to be a Miller that was going to friendly neighbor the 1-shot cop who guilty scanned them, but got roleblocked by me. Like, I'm not a statististics guy, but this is a math based game, and I would love to hear the odds of all that happening.

This trajectory makes no sense.

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Like, SERIOULY.. how the FUCK is DGB still suspect? Not only did it get a guilty on nom, but the claimed flavour suggests an Investigative. Did scum get 2 Investigatives??

… This only makes me suspect DGB+A50 even more.
DGB is suspect because this is its MO as scum.
I want to see it to the things it did in Warehouse 13 and other games.
It just isn’t.

I'm offended that you think I'd always do the same old tricks as scum, it's a slight on my creativity.

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CAST OF CALCULASIA

The townies

DrippingGoofball
Xlos
Titus
Galron

Scum MVP

MathBlade

Scum

Almost50
Jake The Wolfie
WhemeStar
Toogeloo

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I don't believe town!Toogeloo roleblocked the player that claimed a conditional PR.

I do not believe it.

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3) Flavor cannot be an IC due to scum having the ability to fake claim shit.

Townies will tell the truth and be at a disadvantage.

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@DGB: OK.. my memory is quite rusty nowadays. I just saw the quotes and thought that was what he wanted.

Great, can you give an update on your read of Toogeloo?

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Are you suggesting I am bus'ing Toog?

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It is just so weird to claim you blocked a player with a claimed guilty.

Is it weird if your partner claimed to have been roleblocked?

Toog could pretend to be a town roleblocker.

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Are you suggesting I am bus'ing Toog?

There's no use trying to deny it now, DGB. You bused nom, are bussing Toog, and tomorrow will commit suicide. Obviously your conscience couldn't take it no more and you are going for redemption by correcting your wrongdoings before you self-terminate.

LOL

That's a scum claim to me

[DrippingGoofball]

Is Toog...

• a town roleblocker
  who happened to
  block a player who claimed to be a conditional PR
  ?
  
• scum (any role or goon)
  who
  pretended
  to have blocked nom to give credence to nom's claim of having been roleblocked?

I like this kind of post. It feels like a Quiz show.

Anyway, this is a bad contentless post. No one asked for this, and (more importantly) you didn't give/restate your thoughts in this post.

You're the best game troll. Never stop.

[DrippingGoofball]

(Super elim is ToogvA50vDGB) I think a scum has to be in here due to claims and follow the cop problems

I'm totally on board lim'ing the other too.

We can throw Jake to the sharks.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'll personally see to it that both I and DGB are dead tomorrow.

???

That's a weak hider claim.

One of the most powerful roles out there when played right.

[DrippingGoofball]

Xlos' post is so bad, but they are trying to figure things out and looking at every angle. They reached the wrong conclusion, sure, but it's a long "no stone unturned" post where they indeed left no stone unturned worth mentioning. The wheels are actually turning and following a slightly messy, but not nonsensical progression.

One day MathBlade will have enough information on me to realize I would never bus a useful buddy, only one that is a liability to the team and more useful dead than alive.

MathBlade could still be scum, it's a triple-replacement player slot that plays the paranoid card to the hilt and seems super-salty that the town has power roles.

======================

Night 1, Toog allegedly roleblocked nom, a claimed power role that had gotten little suspicion.
Night 2, Took allegedly roleblocked Galron, when he could have roleblocked a suspicious character like Xlos, MathBlade, Whemestar OR EVEN ME since there are a few people that think I hard bus'ed nomnomnom. I claimed 1-shot... if you think I'm scum then it's not a terrible wager that I might perform the kill.

Toog's actions makes zero sense, and when things don't make sense (like a friendly neighbor miller claiming on day 2 and allegedly also roleblocked) it's because we've hit scum.

His read progression, as Titus pointed out, also makes little sense.

VOTE: Toogeloo

[DrippingGoofball]

I do like A50's request to kill xlos, with the "tonight I guarantee," caveat, however.

A50 is going to hide with Xlos, if A50 dies then we know Xlos is scum. That's super townie.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Toogeloo

You have my sword until wrong.

If it's wrong, vote Xlos.

Awesome. I hope you believe it's a good vote.

[DrippingGoofball]

I do like A50's request to kill xlos, with the "tonight I guarantee," caveat, however.

A50 is going to hide with Xlos, if A50 dies then we know Xlos is scum. That's super townie.

A50's hide is a joke IMO.

Who am I to stop a vanilla townie from trying to draw the kill?

[DrippingGoofball]

What if, wild guess, scum have a redirector/bus drivor?

That's something scum would say.

[DrippingGoofball]

I mean DGB wrote that entire post as if I am town then put in the shade later like omg.

Maybe it's because I don't know your alignment and I keep wavering? Every post of yours I read, I go back and forth a dozen times.

[DrippingGoofball]

At the top of the next page I am done will look after work / cooking tonight but Titus blatantly sheeping DGB seems wrong.

If the Toog elim succeeds and Toog is town I want in A50/DGB period. I know Toog is in my super elim pool but I want the scum in that trio.

Players that you'd think aren't in this game just reading MathBlade's iso:

Xlos
Galron
Jake The Wolfie
WhemeStar

[DrippingGoofball]

A bunch of players were gunning for MY head, so personally I didn't find nomnomnom an easy elim at all,

au contraire

.

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Jake

• Why is that something Scum would say?
  Bringing up redirectors is a great way to sow confusion, which you really want to do as scum. Speaking for myself...
  
  
• If you had to give an irreversible read on MathBlade right now, what would it be?
  Really bad town, maybe? He's usually so good at reading me, it's suspicious to me that he's failing so bad. I'm also bothered by the chunk of the player list he's choosing to ignore.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: A50

Let me know if you decide to wagon Xlos anytime soon. Else, I am not voting a townie, and won't be here to see you lose the game for town.

Are.. you implying that you are not town?

I'm hearing the self vote is a vote for scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Woke up too late to do a look back.

Kind of expected Titus and other people to be online.

Where is everyone?

I'm here for a while.

[DrippingGoofball]

And that, my friends, is my assumption.

[DrippingGoofball]

It assumes that Toog was unsuccessful.
Toog could have submitted it as was driven/redirected elsewhere.
It doesn’t assume Toog didn’t block Wheme.

Wait what? I don't understand any of this.

I did only score a C+ in Cal II... I'm very proud of the "+" but it's not helping me in this game.

[DrippingGoofball]

Toog blocked Wheme? I'm not seeing this anywhere. Toog claimed to have RB'd nom and Galron. BOTH MAKE NO SENSE.

Did the scumteam target Wheme?

[DrippingGoofball]

I just want to understand why I'm being scum read. Because all I see is that some people don't believe that I blocked nom, and thought I was trying to save them. Is that the gist of it? No damning evidence, no other associatives, just the refusal to believe that I blocked nom.

Blocking nom, a claimed PR, and Galron? Nah something is wrong.

[DrippingGoofball]

I hope that the conclusion of this argument is going to be yeeting Toog.

[DrippingGoofball]

Xlos, who says that Toog even blocked anything?

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah it's possible that Toog is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Im not sure why A50 claimed my flavor for me but whatever. I don't think claiming flavor or role is smart.

Maybe he's a traitor.

Maybe there's a traitor with an identifiable flavor.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm vibing A50 town.

[DrippingGoofball]

I could see scum in Wheme or MathBlade.

Xlos? Maybe. A lot of players are scum reading Xlos, maybe I'm missing something.

=======================

Toog is still scum for his stated target choices.

When you are a town roleblocker, your hope is to stop a NK. That's why the choice of roleblocking nom, who claimed to be a PR, makes no sense at all from a town perspective. Toog was merely providing nom cover for his disastrous fakeclaim.

Same for Galron, why target Galron?

[DrippingGoofball]

Hmmmm

Maybe my vibe is off...

[DrippingGoofball]

@Math: I am going to try to be as nice as I can be under the circumstances, and request that you

bloody kill them both

for me if you flip me first. This is MY GAME, and you're a replacement. You know I keep records of games I play from the start, and so far I am 2W-10L this year (and more to it 2W/7L as Town), It's not fair that you join my game to tunnel me and then "do as you wish" after you get me flipped too.

So, if you want my flip.. let's do it.. but you owe me the flips of Xlo & Wheme afterwards. Was that nice enough?

Can we compromise and flip Toog>Wheme>Xlos?

[DrippingGoofball]

Stahp

Can't we kumbaya and yeet Toogeloo?

[DrippingGoofball]

Honestly, I don't see Toog flipping Scum here at all. Put yourself in his shoes.. would you have faked to save your p, knowing your p flipping at any time would make you suspect??

Why not? You can always try to pass as a town roleblocker. it's working on you.

[DrippingGoofball]

Seriously, shouldn't it be wheme first?

I would do Wheme before A50.

[DrippingGoofball]

Can you flesh out your objections a little bit more?

[DrippingGoofball]

role that can somehow get a kill at the cost of their life.

???

[DrippingGoofball]

I mean I have quoted it. Xlos has quoted it.
A50 denies it after claiming it.

Are we in the same game?

It's not hider?

[DrippingGoofball]

I want the label.

[DrippingGoofball]

OK I see what you're getting at.

[DrippingGoofball]

Day 2 was a cop guilty day. I'm not sure how coloring votes is going to work as opposed to looking at players' reactions.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ah, but this time I really am masons, promise *wink*
More seriously, I'm generally confused about what the fuck is happening in the game. Words are being thrown around, players can't seem to make up their mind, and some players are saying things contradictiong what both themselves and others are saying. I'm not really sure what to think, so I'm staying on the sidelines until my assistance is needed. Cutting off deadweight won't help you kill scum, it'll only keep the game noisy and unreadable.

Why don't you help?

[DrippingGoofball]

e. Words are being thrown around, players can't seem to make up their mind, and some players are saying things contradictiong what both themselves and others are saying

TRUE

How scumvenient that of all the posts to opine, this is the one you chose.

[DrippingGoofball]

Day 2 was a cop guilty day. I'm not sure how coloring votes is going to work as opposed to looking at players' reactions.

Then do that make your DGB list and then ask your DGB questions and find scum that way.

I think you can do that and would contribute to the game.

Next time I'm on desktop.

[DrippingGoofball]

There's two whole days and a bunch of claims, what is confusing?

[DrippingGoofball]

There is even a dead scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

"Blocking nom was a good move because nom was scum." Except a Town!toog doesn't know nom was scum, and nom was pretty well town read Day 1, so it's a lucky move, not a good move. Using that as a jumping off point to say that I was blocked "Since Galron was blocked" to further confirm toog as roleblocker (and to confirm me as Town) doesn't make sense. Nor does your statment "or some member other of scum is." I don't follow that at all.

It's actually a TERRIBLE move because nom was townread AND had claimed a PR.

Galron, only you know if you were in fact roleblocked or not, or if you cannot tell if you were roleblocked or not.

[DrippingGoofball]

The mod has already colored the votes, in a way!

Voting History:

This tracks who voted whom each day. Each line is formatted like Player A (2): Player B (2) --> Player C (3) where Player A is the person voting, player A votes player B in post #2, and player A votes player C in post #3. The use of ==> instead of --> indicates that the vote was not changed from its current target. People indented four spaces instead of two are replacements for a slot.

Key: * = F-1 Vote; + = Hammer Vote, $ = Self-Vote, ^ = After Hammer Vote.

Day 3

DrippingGoofball: Toogeloo (1074)

Xlos: Almost50 (989) ==> Almost50 (1135)

Almost50: Almost50 (1112$) --> Xlos (1133)

Jake the Wolfie: Jake the Wolfie (1004$)

Galron: Toogeloo (976)

MathBlade: Almost50 (1022) --> Titus (1066) --> Almost50 (1124)

Titus: Xlos (1071) --> Toogeloo (1075)

Toogeloo: Almost50 (1093) --> Xlos (1134)

Day 2

DrippingGoofball (1):

nomnomnom

(466)

Xlos (3): DrippingGoofball (634) --> (Null) (655) --> Almost50 (765)

Almost50 (3): Jake the Wolfie (470) --> MathBlade (762) --> WhemeStar (870)

Jake the Wolfie (2): Jake the Wolfie (465$) --> (Null) (665)

Galron (4):

nomnomnom

(469) --> Xlos (663) --> MathBlade (724) --> Almost50 (862)

theslimer3 (0):
MathBlade (1):

nomnomnom

(905)

T3

(5):

nomnomnom

(502*) --> DrippingGoofball (518) ==> DrippingGoofball (521) --> Jake the Wolfie (616) -->

nomnomnom

(671)

Titus (4):

nomnomnom

(468) ==>

nomnomnom

(661) --> Xlos (885) -->

nomnomnom

(963*)

WhemeStar (2):

nomnomnom

(476) --> Xlos (654)

Toogeloo (2): Titus (606) -->

nomnomnom

(670)

nomnomnom

(5): Jake the Wolfie (477) -->

nomnomnom

(696$) --> (Null) (718) --> DrippingGoofball (818) -->

nomnomnom

(966+$)

Day 1

DrippingGoofball (4):

nomnomnom

(19) --> Xlos (74) -->

Flea The Magician

(320) ==>

Flea The Magician

(352)

Flea The Magician

(1):

MURDERCAT

(33)

Xlos (3):

Flea The Magician

(30) --> Galron (31) -->

T3

(244)

Almost50 (4): Xlos (32) -->

MURDERCAT

(128) --> (Null) (255) -->

Flea The Magician

(368)

Jake The Wolfie (2): Jake The Wolfie (14$) -->

Flea The Magician

(430^)

Galron (3):

Flea The Magician

(13) -->

T3

(81) --> Xlos (267)

ItalianoVD (1): Almost50 (28)
theslimer3 (3):

MURDERCAT

(62) ==>

MURDERCAT

(187) -->

T3

(289)

T3

(8):

MURDERCAT

(60) --> Titus (75) -->

MURDERCAT

(193*) --> (Null) (211) --> DrippingGoofball (339) -->

Flea The Magician

(391*) --> Dripping Goofball (396) -->

Flea The Magician

(398*)

Titus (3): WhemeStar (61) --> Xlos (100) -->

Flea The Magician

(312)

WhemeStar (2): Titus (72) -->

Flea The Magician

(189)

MURDERCAT

(7): Titus (9) --> Jake The Wolfie (56) --> Xlos (79) --> Almost50 (126) -->

Flea The Magician

(304) --> (Null) (316) --> theslimer3 (361)

Toogeloo (3):

Flea The Magician

(52) -->

MURDERCAT

(173) -->

Flea The Magician

(299)

nomnomnom

(5): Jake The Wolfie (15) -->

MURDERCAT

(144) --> Xlos (269) --> Jake the Wolfie (359) -->

Flea The Magician

(422+)

[DrippingGoofball]

Not a single player voted nomnomnom after the RVS. That is how widely townread nomnomnom was. And a claimed PR.

This is who Toogeloo claims to have roleblocked, if he is a roleblocker.

The N1 nightkill, MURDERCAT, voted the following past RVS: Jake, Xlos, A50, Mathblade.

Jake's voting record is an abomination. Regular self-voting, or non-voting... very slimy.

My solve is Toog/Jake, if I'm wrong maybe Xlos, Wheme or MathBlade.

[DrippingGoofball]

My A50 town read has been weakened since I saw your link to a game where he behaved the same way as scum. I am not sure I trust my read as much as I did before.

I don't know about Titus. I'll trust your read more than mine.

Galron, it's more a lack of a scumread than a townread.

[DrippingGoofball]

My solve is Toog/Jake, if I'm wrong maybe Xlos, Wheme or MathBlade.

The Chainaxers just released their newest album called "Everyone's a little scum"

At least I'm not pretending to be confused.

[DrippingGoofball]

MathBlade, I'm so disappointed in you. I can always count on you getting my alignment right. Now you are providing cover for scum to vote me today, and ask for my "vig." You are responsible for giving legs to that dumb theory that I would do the exact same gambit as scum over and over again.

Scum will claim to vig me tonight and Toog will claim to have roleblocked a townie and frame that townie as scum.

Toog is scum, it's staring us in the face.

He claims to have roleblocked a widely townread player who claimed a PR, just in time to support nomscum's FN fakeclaim.

You don't get more obvious scum than that. I don't understand how we are distracting each other to look elsewhere.

[DrippingGoofball]

today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.

100% willing to commit to this.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

No. No. Fuck that. I'm not taking your shit right now. You don't get to decide ifbother people are being genuine or not.

Nobody else seems to be confused, I think it's just a excuse to do nothing and troll your way to end game. It's Day 2 and we hit scum. Go read nom and tell us who you think his buddies are.

[DrippingGoofball]

Scum will claim to vig me tonight and Toog will claim to have roleblocked a townie and frame that townie as scum.

Toog claimed out of shots.

He can say he lied about the number of shots.

[DrippingGoofball]

Scum will claim to vig me tonight and Toog will claim to have roleblocked a townie and frame that townie as scum.

Toog claimed out of shots.

today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.

100% willing to commit to this.

today I’ll vote Toog if both DGB and Titus vote A50 tomorrow.

100% willing to commit to this.

I'm in if Toog flips town.

I don't like this. Why flip A50 if toog flips green? A50's been saying toog is town. That doesn't make sense.

Actually, DGB, you unconditionally said you'd vote A50. Why?

MB made a case that A50 is capable of townie sounding BS as scum.

The case is nowhere near as solid as Toog being lying scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Can someone explain to me why scum defends their partner with their role when the partner had a guilty on them? It doesn’t make sense to me

To give them a chance. And audacity.

[DrippingGoofball]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DGB

Titus has gone fool stooge and I don't like it.

So why aren't you voting TItus?

This vote makes as much sense as a townie roleblocking a player widely read as town who has claimed a PR.

[DrippingGoofball]

If DGB is town then the players on him would necessarily be taking advantage of paranoia.

100% that, and you are responsible for fueling that paranoia two days in a row.

[DrippingGoofball]

You're feeling pretty different this game monkey. Way less cheery than I've seen you in other games, what happen?

You're feeling pretty different this game monkey. Way less cheery than I've seen you in other games, what happen?

I don't think this is true, but IF that's the case then you should know the reason without me explaining it.

I tend to scumread dramatic change of tones like this which is why I'm asking you, you don't carry the chaotic energy you usually carry with you, so I wanted to ask, maybe it's a real life thing

eh, maybe it's the monkey butt avatar
your list is pretty uninspiring though, don't you wanna vote Jake with me

Is this a S/S interaction?

[DrippingGoofball]

MathBlade, I'm town. Just beware when someone claims to have vig'ed me, and there is no other NK. Promise?

[DrippingGoofball]

I think if I were to try to hero solve this would be my team:

{Almost50, theslimer3, Galron}

This post adds a +1 scumpoint for all three players mentioned.

[DrippingGoofball]

What's the POE, MathBlade?

I don't see how scum would read a PR soft from the above posts.

[DrippingGoofball]

I see it now, but whether the scum saw that or the list of suspected players, I guess we'll have to wait until end game to find out.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey Mathblade

You said I lied about being one-shot. I am still alive. So to me you are confirmed town.

[DrippingGoofball]

What does that mean l

You've been dayvigged.

[DrippingGoofball]

Xlos is also conftown.

[DrippingGoofball]

So then scum to you is in Titus/A50/Wheme/Galron right? (I am still paranoid sorry)

Which do you think is most likely and how did your reads change after Toog died?

Why are you not voting A50 like discussed yesterday?

That's correct.

I need to look at the game again before I can answer this question.

I intend to vote for A50 but that doesn't mean I want to ride the bullet train.

[DrippingGoofball]

This distinction is really important.

I did not check

you.

I just assumed that you were clever enough to put two and two together, and would have killed me last night if you were scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Is it

odd

of me to anticipate the derivation of variable pleasure from the present company?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB if scum and said two clears would have outed itself. It woulda been a great reaction test.

What are you on about? I said I didn't check you.

You're making me feel murderous.

[DrippingGoofball]

The fact DGB didn’t die

Maybe because all our posts are making arguments to yeet me? Like seriously all of them.

[DrippingGoofball]

Again who did you check N3 if anyone?

How is it not obvious??? Xlos.

[DrippingGoofball]

I agonized over the decision.

In fact, the first choice I sent the mod was

MathBlade

because of the insanity that is his iso.

But then the next day I thought, if MathBlade, is scum, he knows I fakeclaimed 1-shot, figured with the even-night rolecop flipped and the word ODD in my first post, that I was an odd-night cop. And MathBlade!scum would NK me for sure.

WhemeStar

isn't making it to end game and if town, their contribution to the game isn't exactly... stellar, so why bless him with a clear in the off-chance that I'd survive the night? Nope'd that one. If scum, wasn't the most dangerous scum.

Titus

, my god, she can't possibly be scum in

every game

, I really went back and forth on this, I thought she'd be a great clear but not heavily suspected. If she were scum she'd be very skilled. I was really wishin I could target two players that was really though.

Almost50

Not making it to end game.

Galron

Would have been a decent clear but hasn't contributed a whole lot to the game, so that was a factor. I'm not really scum reading Galron.

Xlos

I liked the contributions, but was controversial enough that it would be a good check to settle it once and for all. A few hours before the game re-opened, I sent the mod a change to my choice. I hope I won't regret it.