Mini Theme 2259: Superfight Mafia!

[Dwlee99]

I think we should all make public fighters so that we can make informed choices on who is being killed.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: nk 15

[Dwlee99]

I voted NK15 before it was cool

Also do people wanna do the whole make a public fighter thing or nah

Even if mafia ban the practice, we could still misflip and make use of it.

[Dwlee99]

RR how am I obvtown I have 3 posts before this one

[Dwlee99]

Someone said something something pooky distance me something can whoever did that explain

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: flea
My lord and savior miltank commands me

I also would have thought the bear was Pooky if I didn't take approximately 5 seconds to vote

[Dwlee99]

Okay?

[Dwlee99]

Galron trying to scare me

You don't scare me

I scare you

[Dwlee99]

What I see cannot hurt me

TRUE

[Dwlee99]

Dude pooky AND firebringer

wtf

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Radical rat
Seems likely to put firebringer in the fight

Also fos on flea

[Dwlee99]

The green hat.

Ribbit

[Dwlee99]

Why? Firebringer scumread RR

[Dwlee99]

Actually okay I have a theory for why flea/firebringer would be picked if both town but it might be anti-town to share

[Dwlee99]

Let's go

[Dwlee99]

3 more votes til we get a new fight

[Dwlee99]

Huh?

How does that question make sense followed up with a flea vote?

[Dwlee99]

TL + RR could be partnered

[Dwlee99]

What's my TMI? Why would you vote flea over me if I TMI'd something?

[Dwlee99]

Because my theory could give scum a strategy for picking future night kills

Also - I said if both town because I was looking into for possible associatives

[Dwlee99]

Put your vote back on RR or I'll tunnel you tomorrow

[Dwlee99]

Sure I'll make that deal (if you flip town kill TL)

[Dwlee99]

Help me bus then my dude

[Dwlee99]

I already bussed NK I wanna go for the whole team now

[Dwlee99]

I think my most obvious partner would be flea so idk where you're getting me and RR paired from

[Dwlee99]

Or maybe I'm just that good at the game I caught scum without talking myself

[Dwlee99]

I have a feeling that's about as likely as Dimension 1's Sun turning green within the next 24 hours.

I mean NK was obvious

And why am I not good enough to catch RR here

[Dwlee99]

Drats!

[Dwlee99]

Radical rat is still probably town

Why

[Dwlee99]

I'm so sorry btw NM

[Dwlee99]

Game that just ended

[Dwlee99]

Well that's awkward

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: dwlee

Homie you voted radical rat as much as I did don't give me that

[Dwlee99]

Y'know I thought faerie mages was a flea alt and now I'm realizing they're both in the game. My analysis skills are really not looking good right now

[Dwlee99]

Also I would definitely not put temporallich in the fight if I were scum here. He was totally setup to be mislimmed

[Dwlee99]

Er they*

No pronoun set sorry if I messed up

[Dwlee99]

Galron are you evil D:

[Dwlee99]

Y'know I'll figure this game out

And this time it'll go better than the RR lim

[Dwlee99]

A hint of the tactical approach to come is that I would rather no lim than vote someone who hasn't been in a fight yet

Scum can guarantee town dies tonight no matter how they arranged previous fights. This is not a good idea

[Dwlee99]

Or... we could not waste a lim for no reason

[Dwlee99]

A hint of the tactical approach to come is that I would rather no lim than vote someone who hasn't been in a fight yet

Scum can guarantee town dies tonight no matter how they arranged previous fights. This is not a good idea

And in doing so they guarantee that scum dies the next night

But if we lim in the pool then if both scum are in the four pool rn then there will have to be scum in the one after the lim unless we lim correctly

[Dwlee99]

I also blanket don't agree that all the scum are in the four btw, and so your plan is gonna be just wasting a lim

[Dwlee99]

I also blanket don't agree that all the scum are in the four btw, and so your plan is gonna be just wasting a lim

If that is so, tell me who is not in the 4 and we can lim them

This is what today is for

My plan is flexible

I am clearly not the person to be asking

[Dwlee99]

Wait a second. Roden is in the game...?

[Dwlee99]

Wait that was way less impactful of a revelation than I thought it was

[Dwlee99]

Wow

This is your 20th post lol

[Dwlee99]

What the hell was that list...

[Dwlee99]

Huge scumslip

Why not kill faerie first?

[Dwlee99]

I'm not gonna comment further til Faerie responds and I ask others to do the same

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Galron

[Dwlee99]

Where is Enchant

[Dwlee99]

Oh right y'all limmed them against my wishes

[Dwlee99]

Oh I forgot I wanted to do this vote count thing and didn't

Anyway I think I want to vote in Galron/Flea today?

[Dwlee99]

Every single time night phase rolls around I get worried I'm going to be selected for a fight and then relieved when I see I'm not, so you're right on that front, Flea.

[Dwlee99]

Okay maybe I don't want to flip in Galron/Flea.

[Dwlee99]

Fighter A: Natsuki Subaru in the Ayamatsu IF Timeline was submitted by Firebringer.
Fighter B: Incorporeal voices whispering dad jokes endlessly was submitted by Flea the Magician.

A: Galron, jjh927, Firebringer
B: TemporalLich, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Radical Rat, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages

"What do you call a deer with no eyes? No idear."
"Why aren't previous generations of ants called antcestors?"
"Did you know that the person who invented the Merry-Go-Round and the person who invented the Ferris Wheel never actually met each other? They just travelled in different circles."
"What do we want?
Time travel.
When do we want it?
That’s irrelevant."

You know what? Fuck this. I'm out. Natsuki Subaru has given up on the fight, taking Firebringer with him. Firebringer was:

TOWN

Roden... you know there's only two people alive that didn't vote for Flea's fighter?

[Dwlee99]

"The people that voted for flea's fighter make up my poe"

but

That's like worthless idk

[Dwlee99]

Can we do the pre-selected fighter thing now please?

[Dwlee99]

B: Roden, Faerie Mages

Okay so this is the team question mark

[Dwlee99]

Fighter A: Batman with six months prep time was submitted by jjh927.
Fighter B: A bear made of metal. was submitted by a disinterested party on behalf of PookyTheMagicalBear, who failed to submit a fighter on time.

A: Faerie Mages, Radical Rat, Not_Mafia, Roden, jjh927, Flea the Magician, Temporal Lich, Enchant
B: Dwlee99, PookytheMagicalBear, Firebringer,

The bear made of metal lies cold and dead, as does Pooky, it's master. Pooky was:

TOWN

Fighter A: Natsuki Subaru in the Ayamatsu IF Timeline was submitted by Firebringer.
Fighter B: Incorporeal voices whispering dad jokes endlessly was submitted by Flea the Magician.

A: Galron, jjh927, Firebringer
B: TemporalLich, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Radical Rat, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages

"What do you call a deer with no eyes? No idear."
"Why aren't previous generations of ants called antcestors?"
"Did you know that the person who invented the Merry-Go-Round and the person who invented the Ferris Wheel never actually met each other? They just travelled in different circles."
"What do we want?
Time travel.
When do we want it?
That’s irrelevant."

You know what? Fuck this. I'm out. Natsuki Subaru has given up on the fight, taking Firebringer with him. Firebringer was:

TOWN

Fighter A: Isabelle from Animal Crossing with Doom Guy was submitted by Faerie Mages.
Fighter B: Supreme Calamitas was submitted by TemporalLich.

A: jjh927, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages
B: TemporalLich, Galron

I'd prepared a longwinded commentary of the epic battle, but unfortunately wasn't able to provide it due to a lack of oxygen. Supreme Calamitas suffered a supreme calamity, taking TemporalLich along for the ride. TemporalLich was:

TOWN

Fighter A: Giant frog with magic and opposable thumbs was submitted by Dwlee99.
Fighter B: Whitney's Miltank: Stomp, Attract, Milk Drink, Rollout was submitted by Not_Mafia.

A: Dwlee99, Flea the Magician, jjh927
B: Roden, Faerie Mages

Not_Mafia, so assured of the superiority of Miltanks everywhere, didn't manage to submit a vote before he was mercilessly crushed under the magical might of frogs everywhere. He was:

TOWN

Roden/Faerie have voted together every time

[Dwlee99]

No other two alive people have voted the same in every fight other than them

[Dwlee99]

Unless you're trying to use the fights as a night kill?

Or you just forgot it'd be obvious if anyone looked

[Dwlee99]

Well I'm not scum and jjh is obvtown so good luck with that solve

[Dwlee99]

Okay I'm gonna get clowned if jjh is scum for that last thing but also... idk I have townread there the whole game and he fought Pooky in the first fight which makes me think not scum for a multitude of reasons

[Dwlee99]

You seem kinda annoyed that you forgot tbh

[Dwlee99]

I mean you're an alt so idk your tract record but uh I've seen people townread the whole scum team in ELO so yea

[Dwlee99]

Okay look, there's 5 choose 2 = 10 possible pairs. One of them vote in block

[Dwlee99]

So maybe if out of 10 pairs, one has a special property, it is significant to consider

[Dwlee99]

Fighter A: Batman with six months prep time was submitted by jjh927.
Fighter B: A bear made of metal. was submitted by a disinterested party on behalf of PookyTheMagicalBear, who failed to submit a fighter on time.

A: Faerie Mages, Radical Rat, Not_Mafia, Roden, jjh927, Flea the Magician, Temporal Lich, Enchant
B: Dwlee99, PookytheMagicalBear, Firebringer,

The bear made of metal lies cold and dead, as does Pooky, it's master. Pooky was:

TOWN

Your solve also would mean you think I voted against jjh when he was my partner which...?

[Dwlee99]

Fighter A: Natsuki Subaru in the Ayamatsu IF Timeline was submitted by Firebringer.
Fighter B: Incorporeal voices whispering dad jokes endlessly was submitted by Flea the Magician.

A: Galron, jjh927, Firebringer
B: TemporalLich, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Radical Rat, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages

"What do you call a deer with no eyes? No idear."
"Why aren't previous generations of ants called antcestors?"
"Did you know that the person who invented the Merry-Go-Round and the person who invented the Ferris Wheel never actually met each other? They just travelled in different circles."
"What do we want?
Time travel.
When do we want it?
That’s irrelevant."

You know what? Fuck this. I'm out. Natsuki Subaru has given up on the fight, taking Firebringer with him. Firebringer was:

TOWN

Oh and hey, jjh voted against flea LOL

[Dwlee99]

NM was just the preferred winner for scum due to his chaotic presence

Ding ding ding

[Dwlee99]

I genuinely think Roden as scum would attempt to coordinate votes better to prevent this happening - Is that something that naturally occured to you dwlee, or did you go hunting for that?
Cause NGL given all the votes are anon I would imagine the team trying to coordinate votes better. If anything I would imagine looking for any differing votes on a midgame fight where it's less likely to be noticed.


ignoring pedits cause submit and forget is a thing
x2

I saw Roden/Faerie vote for NM and thought "that's weird, I wonder about their previous voting patterns" and then went through them

[Dwlee99]

If you think scum would coordinate their votes in any way at all then look for strange votes

like, idk, people voting for the clearly Not Mafia option when they say they scumread Not Mafia

Dwlee and NM were both in my PoE.

Okay but frog > miltank so explain that one huh

[Dwlee99]

Who would jj's partner even be?

[Dwlee99]

Like I don't think it is flea. Roden ???

[Dwlee99]

I'd actually much rather flip roden then either faerie or jjh today I think?

[Dwlee99]

Like unless it's flea/faerie?

[Dwlee99]

I don't get why you're so opposed to the possibility of roden scum

[Dwlee99]

I mean it has to be jjh if you're town, faerie.

[Dwlee99]

Fmpov the possible teams are

Jjh/roden
Or
Faerie/roden
Or
Faerie/flea

[Dwlee99]

I'd actually much rather flip roden then either faerie or jjh today I think?

Bad idea for multiple reasons. Flipping me is an auto loss for town, and if you think I'm scum then you're better off flipping my buddy and then trying to kill me in the fight tonight since I'm guaranteed to fight.

Why are you against flipping one of JJH or Faerie?

oh I didn't think about the fight

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Faerie
Okay I'm going full send

Is it possible it's jjh or something. I mean sure. But also fight pattern + scumminess in general so yea

[Dwlee99]

Inb4 I lose like a 5th or 6th town game in a row

[Dwlee99]

Okay so I'm not teamed with jjh now? Why?

[Dwlee99]

Yea I don't think jjh needs to keep pushing like this if flea is scum

[Dwlee99]

I disagree with your self meta and it's kinda irrelevant now that it's confirmed for me that faerie is scum

[Dwlee99]

I actually don't think there's anyone that can't make the same argument you did about not putting TL up, for instance.

[Dwlee99]

Dude I literally don't care if you're scum or not today

Do you think JJH and I are a team or not

[Dwlee99]

I disagree with your self meta and it's kinda irrelevant now that it's confirmed for me that faerie is scum

It isn't a self meta. But if you disagree then you're free to show examples of me open wolfing and hard defending my scum team.

How is out of anyone's scum range to just... Do things with their partner and townread them. It's like the MathBlade newbie method to play scum

[Dwlee99]

Margot, Val, you're most likely both town and this back and forth is just gonna make a great cover for scum to hide in. Can you two please call a truce for now so we can figure out what the fuck is going on with Cook in

this

game, not whatever her intentions were in a scum PT in a completely different game from a month ago?

PE: Thank you.

And here is you trying to frame your buddy as being in a TvT...

[Dwlee99]

I actually don't think there's anyone that can't make the same argument you did about not putting TL up, for instance.

This is factually untrue. I was the only one openly town reading Lich, I had the least to gain from putting them up and then voting for them to lose the fight. They would've been both pocketed and a mis-elim option if I were scum and they were still alive in ELo. If I'm scum, the best option is to put them up against NM since they'd have the best chance to survive vs literally anyone else.

I just don't find it convincing sorry

[Dwlee99]

Do you actually think you couldn't play a scum game where you defend your partner and vote with them?

[Dwlee99]

Like how am I supposed to find that even remotely convincing...

[Dwlee99]

And I just got out of a game where koba was like "oh I can't be scum cause why would I night kill someone that townread me" and "how could I be scum when I made this post hard defending the flipped scum"

And then Datisi actually bought that hard defending their partner was town-indicative and voted me to lose in ELO lol

[Dwlee99]

And you have to explain how I'm partnered with JJH when I voted against them N1 after a scum lim D1 if you want to argue Faerie is scum here. Which is a much stronger case than "oh but hard defending/voting with my partner would be SO scummy it's out of my scum range"

[Dwlee99]

The temptation to hammer without flea input is so strong

[Dwlee99]

That's a good point

[Dwlee99]

I was considering it but now I have hammer and I always overthink this stuff

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Flea
Okay I'm gonna not overthink this. This is new dwlee

[Dwlee99]

Nah I'm not scum let's gooooo

[Dwlee99]

Good game

Thanks for modding!

[Dwlee99]

Oh also good job voting correctly in 5p Roden. I didn't exactly do a good job being convincing when my solve had you in it

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: nk 15

VOTE: flea
My lord and savior miltank commands me

I also would have thought the bear was Pooky if I didn't take approximately 5 seconds to vote

My first two votes. Was all downhill from here lol